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Monday, January 15, 2007 3:58 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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New on the Internet: a community of people who believe the government is beaming voices into their minds. They may be crazy, but the Pentagon has pursued a weapon that can do just that.

By Sharon Weinberger
Sunday, January 14, 2007; Page W22

IF HARLAN GIRARD IS CRAZY, HE DOESN'T ACT THE PART. He is standing just where he said he would be, below the Philadelphia train station's World War II memorial -- a soaring statue of a winged angel embracing a fallen combatant, as if lifting him to heaven. Girard is wearing pressed khaki pants, expensive-looking leather loafers and a crisp blue button-down. He looks like a local businessman dressed for a casual Friday -- a local businessman with a wickedly dark sense of humor, which had become apparent when he said to look for him beneath "the angel sodomizing a dead soldier." At 70, he appears robust and healthy -- not the slightest bit disheveled or unusual-looking. He is also carrying a bag.

Girard's description of himself is matter-of-fact, until he explains what's in the bag: documents he believes prove that the government is attempting to control his mind. He carries that black, weathered bag everywhere he goes. "Every time I go out, I'm prepared to come home and find everything is stolen," he says.

The bag aside, Girard appears intelligent and coherent. At a table in front of Dunkin' Donuts inside the train station, Girard opens the bag and pulls out a thick stack of documents, carefully labeled and sorted with yellow sticky notes bearing neat block print. The documents are an authentic-looking mix of news stories, articles culled from military journals and even some declassified national security documents that do seem to show that the U.S. government has attempted to develop weapons that send voices into people's heads.

"It's undeniable that the technology exists," Girard says, "but if you go to the police and say, 'I'm hearing voices,' they're going to lock you up for psychiatric evaluation."

The thing that's missing from his bag -- the lack of which makes it hard to prove he isn't crazy -- is even a single document that would buttress the implausible notion that the government is currently targeting a large group of American citizens with mind-control technology. The only direct evidence for that, Girard admits, lies with alleged victims such as himself.

And of those, there are many.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/10/AR2007
011001399.html


Validation (of a sort) for our conspiracy theorists. Even mentions MK-Ultra and tin-foil hats.

You may have to log on to The Washington Post to read the entire article.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, January 15, 2007 5:05 PM

FREMDFIRMA


As i've said repeatedly, PN's only half-crazy.

DARPA is definately the other half, man, some of the stuff they've tried is so downright woo-woo weird that it's hard to believe even when yer standing four feet from the evidence.

-F

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:28 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
As i've said repeatedly, PN's only half-crazy.

DARPA is definately the other half, man, some of the stuff they've tried is so downright woo-woo weird that it's hard to believe even when yer standing four feet from the evidence.

-F



It should't be such a surprise. Idle minds, (Gov't employees ) with vast amounts of $$ ( ours ) and a need to spend equal to last years budget, and then some, all adds up to .... kooky stuff. You'd likely never be able to justify some of the hair brained ideas were the Gov't ran like a private sector corporation, so spend away!

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:14 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It should't be such a surprise. Idle minds, (Gov't employees ) with vast amounts of $$ ( ours ) and a need to spend equal to last years budget, and then some, all ads up to .... kooky stuff. You'd likely never be able to justify some of the hair brained ideas were the Gov't ran like a private sector corporation, so spend away!

The private sector has done some pretty hair brained stuff too. But nonetheless some of the absolutely ridiculous nonsense that we’ve wasted defense money is just embarrassing sometimes. Everything from psychic powers to building flying saucers; of course, we never figured out how to cast a level 4 spell to reveal the location of Soviet spies, but we sure as hell gave it our best shot.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:34 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
we never figured out how to cast a level 4 spell to reveal the location of Soviet spies, but we sure as hell gave it our best shot.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Get Willow Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:59 AM

FLETCH2


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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It should't be such a surprise. Idle minds, (Gov't employees ) with vast amounts of $$ ( ours ) and a need to spend equal to last years budget, and then some, all ads up to .... kooky stuff. You'd likely never be able to justify some of the hair brained ideas were the Gov't ran like a private sector corporation, so spend away!

The private sector has done some pretty hair brained stuff too. But nonetheless some of the absolutely ridiculous nonsense that we’ve wasted defense money is just embarrassing sometimes. Everything from psychic powers to building flying saucers; of course, we never figured out how to cast a level 4 spell to reveal the location of Soviet spies, but we sure as hell gave it our best shot.




You we should have attacked them with the gnomes of Zurich supported by the orbital mind control lazers.




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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Ahhh... but occasionally DARPA comes up with some good stuff. Like the internet.

Here's an oddball DOD research project that I ran into while looking for other stuff:
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CROWD CONTROL
US scientists are working on a ... highly slippery, viscous gel which ... will render even grass and compacted earth so slick that it is almost impossible to remain standing. Not only that, it has the same effect on vehicles, disabling them by rendering them virtually uncontrollable.





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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:10 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


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Originally posted by SignyM:
Ahhh... but occasionally DARPA comes up with some good stuff. Like the internet.

Here's an oddball DOD research project that I ran into while looking for other stuff:
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CROWD CONTROL
US scientists are working on a ... highly slippery, viscous gel which ... will render even grass and compacted earth so slick that it is almost impossible to remain standing. Not only that, it has the same effect on vehicles, disabling them by rendering them virtually uncontrollable.





I believe thats Alcohol.
As for the mind control, I think Sony invented a machine in the 80's that did a similar thing. They called it a "Walkman" I belive.



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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.


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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:02 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Bah, just buckyballs.

What's next, re-inventing the Fullerdome ?

*grumble*

-F

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:30 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


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Originally posted by Fletch2:
You we should have attacked them with the gnomes of Zurich supported by the orbital mind control lazers.

We thought of that, but in a ten year CIA funded study at Sanford University it was determined that it would take at least a roll of 17 on a 20 sided dice.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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