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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump was hoping for a quick war so he could go to China with Venezuela and Iran in his pocket, but he walked into a bear trap instead.

I think Iran at this point wants to destroy USA presence in the mideast, and maybe Israel too, bc that's the only way for them to get peace and security.

This war is over when Iran says it's over, and that won't happen until Iran's security needs are met.

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Confirmed — Donald Trump Believes Iran Has The Bomb

4 June 2026 by Larry C. Johnson 234 Comments

No, I have not been given access to NSA Sigint, but I have confirmed that the phone call last week between Iranian President Pezeshkian and Pakistani Prime Minister Shariff was over a non-secure line. I am reliably informed that this was done deliberately by the Iranians and Pakistanis — i.e., the Iranians and Pakistanis were counting on the Americans and the Israelis to be listening in. The key part of the conversation between Pezeshkian and Shariff was this:

President Masoud Pezeshkian communicated a formally structured, three-step strategic ultimatum if US strikes continued:

1. Immediate Withdrawal from the ongoing nuclear peace talks.
2. Total Abandonment of the prospective Nuclear Treaty framework.
3. The Detonation of a Nuclear Device on Iranian soil—executed not as a weapon of war, but as an undeniable demonstration of sovereign capability and ultimate control over the escalation ladder.

When Marco Rubio was called an hour or so later by Pakistan’s Foreign Minister, Ishaq Dar, and received the same message, the White House knew that the information was legitimate. While the US intelligence community probably cannot confirm that Iran actually does have a functioning nuke, the Pakistanis believe the Iranians do. The intercepted chat between Pezeshkian and Shariff, followed by Rubio’s conversation with Ishaq Dar, convinced Trump and his advisors that Iran was not making a hollow threat.

Now we know why there has been a dramatic change in Trump’s rhetoric towards Iran… Hell, he downplayed yesterday’s missile dust up in the Persian Gulf, which left Kuwait’s International Airport on fire from an errant PAC3 Patriot missile.

Pepe and I caught some hell from skeptics after we reported on the Pakistani claim that Iran was threatening to detonate a nuclear device on Iranian soil if the US continued its strikes and did not rein in Israel’s attacks on Beirut. But we ain’t the ones eating crow or wiping egg off of our faces. Robert Barnes, a former Trump lawyer, during a Wednesday podcast with Mario Nawfal said that he confirmed with a Trump White House source that our information is correct.

Pakistan continues to play the central role in the negotiations between Tehran and Washington and wants to bring Donald Trump to Islamabad for a meeting with Iran’s President Pezeshkian, where a peace deal ending the war with Iran would be signed. If that happens the internet might implode. Pakistan is not doing this on its own… It has the full backing of China and Russia, with China taking the lead.

There are still some obstacles that Pakistan must overcome if it wants to get Trump and Pezeshkian to the negotiating table… The biggest being Israel. Will Trump compel Israel to retreat from Lebanon? Although the White House announced with much fanfare today that Lebanon and Israel have reached a peace agreement, the details released are unacceptable to Hezbollah. Hezbollah is not going to stop firing into northern Israel until the IDF withdraws from southern Lebanon. The Lebanese/Israeli agreement reportedly stipulates that Hezbollah cannot have any forces south of the Litani River… Like I wrote above, that is a non-starter and deal breaker for Hezbollah.

If the Lebanese situation is settled, than I think it is highly likely that Trump can get a deal with Iran that would eliminate the threat of Iran ever using a nuclear device. But such an agreement will have to have some teeth, such as being ratified by the US Congress and backed up by security guarantees from Russia and China. We are going to here some more upbeat claims from Trump in the coming days about an imminent deal. Just remember that there are still some very complicated, technical issues to solve.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It must be really nice for you to sit in a position where you can bitch about what Trump does no matter what it is, huh?

We already know that everything that Trump does is wrong to you. It's especially funny when he does what Democrats would do and/or actually want and you still shit on him for it.

Nobody gives one single fuck about your opinion or the idiots who give it to you.

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It must be really nice for you to sit in a position where you can bitch about what Trump does no matter what it is, huh?

We already know that everything that Trump does is wrong to you. It's especially funny when he does what Democrats would do and/or actually want and you still shit on him for it.

Nobody gives one single fuck about your opinion or the idiots who give it to you.

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6ix, what has always delighted me is that you, unlike the far less articulate Trumptards I am in daily contact with, make it perfectly clear why your life is troubled. It is not perfectly clear to you because then you wouldn't be a Trumptard and you wouldn't have all these misfortunes that go along with your lack of insight.

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Originally posted by second:
All the way back to The Art of the Deal, he has spoken of truth as a tool for manipulation.

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Originally posted by second:
Mind-Blowing: The Top 10 Real Achievements Of Donald Trump And Pete Hegseth In Iran

1. The Strait of Hormuz was open
- Now it's blocked by two militaries

2. Iran had no nukes
- Now every nation knows it needs nukes

3. Iranians were divided, with some favoring and some opposing the US and Israel
- Now Iranians are united against the US and Israel

4. US military bases had pretended to be assets
- Now they've been exposed as dangerous liabilities

5. Murdering an entire govt was considered a very bad thing
- Now it's fine, the US set a precedent for everyone

6. The Gulf states pretended to be loyal to the global family of Islam, not US/Israel
- Now everyone knows the opposite is true

7. The "allies" thought the US valued them
- Now they know the US is destroying them

8. US citizens used to spend nothing on Iran
- Now they're bleeding US$30 billion on that country

9. Peace negotiations used to be sacrosanct
- Now we know the US says it's okay to kill negotiators

10. The world suspected the US was a murderous rogue regime
- Now we know it's true.

https://www.facebook.com/bmtvafrica/posts/mind-blowing-the-10-top-real
-achievements-of-trump-and-hegseth-in-iran1-the-stra/1433295232158929/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Iran Threatens "Decisive Response" After US Begins 'Self-Defense' Strikes Following Downing Of Apache Helicopter

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Iran says it will no longer wait for threats, declaring new strategic regional defense doctrine, so says Sadeq Larijani. Larijani is a prominent Iranian Shia cleric, conservative politician, and senior regime figure. He is best known for serving as Chief Justice (Head of the Judiciary) of Iran from 2009 to 2019 and as Chairman of the Expediency Discernment Council since late 2018. His now deceased brother, Ali Larijani, was the Speaker of the Parliament and National Security advisor to the Ayatollah before he was killed by Israel. The Larijanis are clerical and political royalty in Iran.

As the current head of Iran’s Expediency Discernment Council, chairman Larijani announced that Tehran’s intervention in support of Lebanon constitutes a formal declaration of a new strategic doctrine. Under the terms of this doctrine, attacks on any component of the Resistance Axis (Hezbollah and the Palestinians) will trigger an Iranian response that extends beyond geographical boundaries and reshapes regional equations.

Larijani explained that Iran has entered a new phase in which it no longer waits for threats to emerge before acting to preserve its regional position, but instead will take the initiative. He also warned that any expansion of the conflict or attack on critical Iranian infrastructure would be met with a comprehensive and deterrent response.

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Originally posted by second:
Yesterday, Israel’s public service news agency KAN (which is generally considered reliable) reported that Trump had arranged for $3 billion to be given to Iran as a bribe to get them to stop attacking Israel.

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/israel-news/2560056/shock-report-
claims-3-billion-in-frozen-iranian-assets-released-as-fighting-with-israel-halted.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

So sayeth theyehivaworld.com.

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So sayeth theyehivaworld.com.

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Israeli media claims $3 bn in Iranian assets transferred to Tehran amid ceasefire efforts

https://www.wionews.com/world/israeli-media-claims-3-billion-iranian-a
ssets-transferred-tehran-ceasefire-1781076188375


Foreign Media Claim $3 Billion in Iranian Assets Transferred to Tehran

https://wanaen.com/foreign-media-claim-3-billion-in-iranian-assets-tra
nsferred-to-tehran/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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So sayeth wionews.com!

So sayeth wanaen.com!



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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.

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Longer term, however, I still find it hard to be optimistic about any agreement that might be reached between the US and Iran. The conflict between them isn’t about the Strait of Hormuz, about Iran’s nuclear program, their ballistic missiles or about the rights of “women and girls” in Iran. The conflict is about capturing political control over Iran, their independence, and their estimated $35 trillion in natural resource wealth.

The Iranians will never be allowed to manage their economic affairs independently, set out their own trade terms or formulate their own monetary system. Western system of governance demands colonial submission to Western financial centers. Imagine the optics if some independent nation suddenly demanded to be paid in gold or silver for their export trade. What might other nations with large balances of paper fiat think? That they can just ask for a different settlement mechanism? This can’t be allowed.

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nobody in the Trump administration referred to these specific points, let alone affirmed that the US has accepted them as part of the mutually agreed framework for negotiations with the Iranians.

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