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YOU SAY "Trump is involved in this scandal" but so far it's just you and your bullshit, hyperfocused TDS sources that say so.

AFA going thru the emails... if they're in electronic format, which they are, it takes no time at all to do a word search for "trump" "don" and "donald".

I would especially look in the email addresses for any known Trump email addy to look for DIRECT communication between Trump and Epstein.

It'll probably take more time to open all the attachments and search those, altho they apparently already came up with Dershowitz as a gift recipient.

I suspect this is not the "client list" that everyone is looking for.

So far there are no accusations by Epstein's victims against Trump.

More info about the emails

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/09/11/epstein-asked-ghislai
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You've already convinced me that Trump is a first class creep who likes to ogle, and is alleged to have sexually assaulted many women and raped (finger penetration) one. If only some of that is true, he's a horrible man. But pedophile?

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YOU SAY "Trump is involved in this scandal" but so far it's just you and your bullshit, hyperfocused TDS sources that say so.
AFA going thru the emails... if they're in electronic format, which they are, it takes no time at all to do a word search for "trump" "don" and "donald".
I would especially look in the email addresses for any known Trump email addy to look for DIRECT communication between Trump and Epstein.
It'll probably take more time to open all the attachments and search those, altho they apparently already came up with Dershowitz as a gift recipient.
I suspect this is not the "client list" that everyone is looking for.
So far there are no accusations by Epstein's victims against Trump.
More info about the emails
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/09/11/epstein-asked-ghislai
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You've already convinced me that Trump is a first class creep who likes to ogle, and is alleged to have sexually assaulted many women and raped (finger penetration) one. If only some of that is true, he's a horrible man. But pedophile?

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He was convicted of sexual assault. You still refuse to admit it. You dance around it. The trial judge called it rape. There is the Hollywood tape where he admits to repeatedly sexually assaulting women; plural. It's on tape.

The author of a book said he saw pictures of Trump with what looked like to him, an underage girl sitting topless on his lap. He had stains on his pants. Epstein pulled them from a safe he had and showed them to him.

He was Epstein's best friend for more than a decade. Do you really believe he didn’t know Epstein was trafficking in underage girls? Trump admitted to walking in on naked teenage girls during pageants. He laughingly said he could, and I quote, "get away with it because he owned the Pageant."

He arranged for Maxwell to go to a prison where she should not be with work release in sight. Even a pardon down the road. Why the fuck would he do that? And that's just a part of it. That’s what I remember off the top of my head.

I’ve been watching you for years hold others accountable for next to nothing. Even condemn them based on pure speculation. This guy would be in jail for life had he not won reelection. I'm not hyper focused on Trump. I'm battling against what he and others of the same cloth, i.e. Charlie Kirk, are doing to America. A type of total destruction that Jack is in favor of. You always feigning ignorance, deflecting, or posting subjective bullshit explains what you're about. Even so, according to what I've garnered from you, reading through the lines, this country has been awfully good to you.

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The records also provide the most detailed financial map yet of Epstein's gift-giving network, listing nearly 2,000 luxury items, payments, and favors, including a $35,000 watch earmarked for a former Clinton aide, a $71,000 Lexus for Epstein's lawyer and multiple purchases for teenage girls, some of whom later accused Epstein and Maxwell of abuse.

The correspondence shows Maxwell actively facilitating Epstein's financial and personal dealings, including exchanges about fertility treatments, legal strategy, and luxury gifts for powerful associates, victims and celebrities.

Some messages made references to Trump, though they do not provide any evidence of criminal conduct.

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YOU SAY "Trump is involved in this scandal" but so far it's just you and your bullshit, hyperfocused TDS sources that say so.
AFA going thru the emails... if they're in electronic format, which they are, it takes no time at all to do a word search for "trump" "don" and "donald".
I would especially look in the email addresses for any known Trump email addy to look for DIRECT communication between Trump and Epstein.
It'll probably take more time to open all the attachments and search those, altho they apparently already came up with Dershowitz as a gift recipient.
I suspect this is not the "client list" that everyone is looking for.
So far there are no accusations by Epstein's victims against Trump.
More info about the emails
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/09/11/epstein-asked-ghislai
ne-maxwell-to-remove-trump-from-list-of-associates-new-emails-reportedly-reveal/

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You've already convinced me that Trump is a first class creep who likes to ogle, and is alleged to have sexually assaulted many women and raped (finger penetration) one. If only some of that is true, he's a horrible man. But pedophile?

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He was convicted of sexual assault. You still refuse to admit it. You dance around it. The trial judge called it rape. There is the Hollywood tape where he admits to repeatedly sexually assaulting women; plural. It's on tape.

The author of a book said he saw pictures of Trump with what looked like to him, an underage girl sitting topless on his lap. He had stains on his pants. Epstein pulled them from a safe he had and showed them to him.

He was Epstein's best friend for more than a decade. Do you really believe he didn’t know Epstein was trafficking in underage girls? Trump admitted to walking in on naked teenage girls during pageants. He laughingly said he could, and I quote, "get away with it because he owned the Pageant."

He arranged for Maxwell to go to a prison where she should not be with work release in sight. Even a pardon down the road. Why the fuck would he do that? And that's just a part of it. That’s what I remember off the top of my head.

I’ve been watching you for years hold others accountable for next to nothing. Even condemn them based on pure speculation. This guy would be in jail for life had he not won reelection. I'm not hyper focused on Trump. I'm battling against what he and others of the same cloth, i.e. Charlie Kirk, are doing to America. A type of total destruction that Jack is in favor of. You always feigning ignorance, deflecting, or posting subjective bullshit explains what you're about. Even so, according to what I've garnered from you, reading through the lines, this country has been awfully good to you.

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Oh for fuck's sake!
THGR, I think the Clintons are despicable people, with a long sordid history of evidence tampering, associated with too many suspicious deaths and government corruption, and probably EPSTEIN'S ACTUAL CLIENT and EVEN I don't make as big a fuss about them as you do about Trump.
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The records also provide the most detailed financial map yet of Epstein's gift-giving network, listing nearly 2,000 luxury items, payments, and favors, including a $35,000 watch earmarked for a former Clinton aide, a $71,000 Lexus for Epstein's lawyer and multiple purchases for teenage girls, some of whom later accused Epstein and Maxwell of abuse.

The correspondence shows Maxwell actively facilitating Epstein's financial and personal dealings, including exchanges about fertility treatments, legal strategy, and luxury gifts for powerful associates, victims and celebrities.

Some messages made references to Trump, though they do not provide any evidence of criminal conduct.

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https://www.newsweek.com/epstein-emails-private-account-21282

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Ted is just the stupidest person I've ever known in my life.

And I've known some real dummies.

But it's not even close. I'd have to include people with Down's Syndrome to even make a close comparison.

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Ted is just the stupidest person I've ever known in my life.

And I've known some real dummies.

But it's not even close. I'd have to include people with Down's Syndrome to even make a close comparison.

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Laughing here Gilligan. Yup, laughing here.

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Been thinking more about this...

I hate to say it, Sigs, because I know it's a real sensitive issue to you. And I don't mean you personally because you and your husband both did what was expected of you and from what I know of you, you did it well enough to exceed most in your generation. And I know you have DD to worry about with all that work you're always doing tending to the house. So this isn't an attack on YOU, okay?



I think a real big part of the current seismic shift we're going through is because the oldest of the Boomer generation is starting to die off and/or go senile, and now it's Gen X rather unwillingly and/or uncaringly becoming the senior generation.

I think we're all just kind of sitting here like "oh... for fuck's sake. What are we going to do now? Our grandparents all died and things got way worse because our parents all kind of sucked and were huge disappointments. And now our parents are all dying off too... and we just sat back and let these dipshit Millennials get in line to take it all over 2 decades ago... And then we watched them speedrun everything from comics and movies to the economy and society in general into the fucking ground while the Boomer Politicians and Senior Management were too busy to babysit them, what with having their schedules full of stacking that cash with all that insider trading, selling the rest of us out and drooling on themselves.

And the Millennials weren't even our fucking kids man... They're our step/half brothers and sisters from our Boomer parents' second failed marriages.

It's like they raised two pretty awful generations of kids overall, but the 2nd experiment was just WAY worse than the first one was...

I would venture a guess that the Baby Boomer Generation in America held more power for longer than any other in the country ever has before them. That's one-third because of how fucking greedy and full of ambition Baby Boomers are, As A Group. It's one-third how self-centered and full of ambition Millennials are, as a group. And it's one-third because of how fucking lazy and/or disaffected and/or uninterested Generation X is in politics or saving the world, as a group. Nihilism was kind of our thing. I have half of a decent friend roster who never made it out of their 20's to back that up. I'd blame TV for it, but that would make me sound like a fucking Boomer.



I think Gen X is like "Fuck This". I was fine with not having to take any responsibility as long as the people who really wanted it were more or less doing right by us, even if they were fucking us over. Boomers fucked everybody, but they just had a gentler touch, and only pushed that envelope a little bit at a time, so subtle that most people didn't even really notice the glacial shift until it was way too late.

The Millennials got in there and said "LET'S BURN THIS MOTHERFUCKER DOWN AND REBUILD IT THE WAY WE WANT IT!"

But their only two problems were that none of them were in agreement about what the way they wanted it would look like, and even if they were, not a single one of them ever built anything beyond LEGO sets and haven't held a fucking hammer in their hands since their Boomer parents gave their Builder Bob plastic tool belt to Goodwill.




To this day, nobody ever talks about Gen X.

I've only rarely even heard murmurings from only a handful of sources even mentioning Gen X, and that didn't start until right after the election results were finally in.



Yanno... They raised us to not really bother going for a degree unless we were top of the class and gung-ho for going there. But they didn't bother teaching us any skills either. We were just kind of left on our own, to our own devices. Then what was left of the non-union, non-nepobaby jobs and Government jobs were either shipped overseas or gated behind a Degree Requirement post-9/11 and we all started working retail and basically the same shit jobs we were working when we were 16.

But we know a lot of shit. We've had to learn a lot of stuff on our own. Things like YouTube was one of the greatest that ever happened to us. The idea that you need to go to college to do 90% of the stupid shit that people do at jobs today is just nuts to us.

For instance, I just found out last night that I don't qualify for applying to ICE. Not for Ted's asinine reason that there's a height requirement and that I wouldn't fit it when I'm average sized. And not even for my only concern about rejection, which would be my Diabetes diagnosis. Nope...

It's because I don't have a fucking bachelor's degree... Can you believe that? The requirements were either prior military service and/or some amount of time in Law Enforcement yada, yada, yada, OR some heavy amount of volunteer work in your history, OR a bachelor's degree. IN ANYTHING. No requirements at all for that degree. Just that you have that piece of paper.

Not that they would ever hire one, but that means that even in Trump's America, a pink haired Millennial Barrista at Starbucks who celebrated Charlie Kirk's death last night with a degree in Gender Studies would fulfill the minimum requirements to put in an application to be an ICE agent, but I wouldn't.



And so, we're the No Step on Snek generation of Meh...

But we're also the generation who learned to bend all the rules without breaking them to get what we want, which mostly meant just being left the fuck alone. Those of us still hanging around have a lot of reading and self-learning under our belts. Street smart and book smart, but without most of that college debt we always hear everyone under a certain age bitching and whining about all the time.

If there's one thing we don't like, it's being fucked with.

And I think we've all pretty much decided that all this Millennial Fuckery that the Boomers still in power just abetted and forced everyone else to endure for 20 years has gone on for just about long enough.


I think I know why you Boomers fucked up two generations so bad. You spanked your GenX babies and yelled at them way too much, and then you never laid a hand on your Millennial babies from the guilt and let them walk all over you and in the process they never learned to grow up. They're like the Peter Pan generation of fucking morons who don't know how anything works but believe they're all geniuses because they all went to college.

In any event, we're fucking done with 'em.

You might not have spanked them, but we possess no such moral quandary.

We'll be sure give them an extra spanking for ya.

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Laughing here Gilligan. Yup, laughing here.

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Still thinking in cartoons, THGR?

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YOU SAY "Trump is involved in this scandal" but so far it's just you and your bullshit, hyperfocused TDS sources that say so.

AFA going thru the emails... if they're in electronic format, which they are, it takes no time at all to do a word search for "trump" "don" and "donald".

I would especially look in the email addresses for any known Trump email addy to look for DIRECT communication between Trump and Epstein.

It'll probably take more time to open all the attachments and search those, altho they apparently already came up with Dershowitz as a gift recipient.

I suspect this is not the "client list" that everyone is looking for.

So far there are no accusations by Epstein's victims against Trump.

More info about the emails

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/09/11/epstein-asked-ghislai
ne-maxwell-to-remove-trump-from-list-of-associates-new-emails-reportedly-reveal/


You've already convinced me that Trump is a first class creep who likes to ogle, and is alleged to have sexually assaulted many women and raped (finger penetration) one. If only some of that is true, he's a horrible man. But pedophile?

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He was convicted of sexual assault. You still refuse to admit it. You dance around it. The trial judge called it rape. There is the Hollywood tape where he admits to repeatedly sexually assaulting women; plural. It's on tape.

The author of a book said he saw pictures of Trump with what looked like to him, an underage girl sitting topless on his lap. He had stains on his pants. Epstein pulled them from a safe he had and showed them to him.

He was Epstein's best friend for more than a decade. Do you really believe he didn’t know Epstein was trafficking in underage girls? Trump admitted to walking in on naked teenage girls during pageants. He laughingly said he could, and I quote, "get away with it because he owned the Pageant."

He arranged for Maxwell to go to a prison where she should not be with work release in sight. Even a pardon down the road. Why the fuck would he do that? And that's just a part of it. That’s what I remember off the top of my head.

I’ve been watching you for years hold others accountable for next to nothing. Even condemn them based on pure speculation. This guy would be in jail for life had he not won reelection. I'm not hyper focused on Trump. I'm battling against what he and others of the same cloth, i.e. Charlie Kirk, are doing to America. A type of total destruction that Jack is in favor of. You always feigning ignorance, deflecting, or posting subjective bullshit explains what you're about. Even so, according to what I've garnered from you, reading through the lines, this country has been awfully good to you.

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There is no reason to ever take anything that Ted thinks seriously again.

Ted is a monster with no soul.

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There is no reason to ever take anything that Ted thinks seriously again.

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Read what you quoted me of saying and understand that don't worship people like him. However, I will agree with him when he claims to believe in free speach. If, it's his speach. Not so much everybody else's. He has shown that to be true about himself. And so have you Gilligan.

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Read what you quoted me of saying and understand that don't worship people like him. However, I will agree with him when he claims to believe in free speech. If, it's his speech. Not so much everybody else's. He has shown that to be true about himself. And so have you Gilligan.

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A reminder that Polish Russian Collaborators comrades Sigym and Kiki, QAnons’ representatives here, are just that. We have witnessed for years them call fake even the most obvious of facts exposing themselves as liars. They have thrown their hats into the anti-democracy arena and are always posting here in a way intended to forward that agenda.

What they post as fact time and time again is pulled directly from subversives like QAnon. Russian propaganda sites, far right over the edge news outlets, Zerohedge facebook and twitter. They post a pro Russian agenda and are not credible when they say they are pro American. As I’ve said, they’ve revealed themselves as QAnons’ representatives at this site by constantly sourcing their conspiracy theories into their posts.

Joining them in their trolling is Jack=ass. He too disputed the undisputable divulging himself as nothing other than an ignorant troll.

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Epstein Victims Tear Into Kash Patel Over His Trafficking Claim

A group of survivors who were victimized by Jeffrey Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell slammed FBI Director Kash Patel’s “shocking” testimony that the late sex offender only trafficked young girls to himself.

Patel faced two days of grilling this week before the Senate Judiciary Committee and the House Oversight Committee, becoming combative in response to bipartisan questions about President Donald Trump’s connections to Epstein.

He repeatedly deflected and tried to blame previous administrations—including officials who served during Trump’s first term—for the current administration’s failure to provide new revelations in the case.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/epstein-victims-tear-into-kash-pa
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A lot of that $ went thru JPM. Nothing to do with Trump.
But while you keep focusing on Trump Trump Trump, you're not asking the question ... where did Epstein's money come from??? Follow the money and you'll probably dig up more than a few criminals.


THGR:
I saw your other post. You quote me as saying you dance around Trumps sexual abuse conviction, and you say you don’t.

Then when he is on tape saying he sexual assaults women you say, paraphrasing, you need times and dates or it’s not real. Not only is that dancing around the facts to shill for Trump, but you are also suggesting the onus is on the women to prove it even though Trump said it and we heard it; sick.

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Signym, comrade, I'm not defending the Clintons. I will however, since for years now you've held up the Clintons to deflect from Trump, point out the ease with which you condemn them and give Trump who is so much worse, a free pass.

What's up with that shit? It's because he is Putin's puppet, isn't it?

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Signym, comrade, I'm not defending the Clintons. I will however, since for years now you've held up the Clintons to deflect from Trump, point out the ease with which you condemn them and give Trump who is so much worse, a free pass.

What's up with that shit? It's because he is Putin's puppet, isn't it?

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Did/ do I spend all day, every day, MULTIPLE times each day, banging on and on about the Clinton death reel? Hillary hiding a box of vital evidence for the Whitewater trial? Hiding evidence of "pay to play" with those 33,000 bleach- bitted emails, and the official destruction of any potential copies by the FBI by ordering her aides' cellphones smashed with a hammer? (Now THAT'S high-powered protection!)

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OMFG you're hopeless. I DON'T POST ENDLESSLY ABOUT THE CLINTONS CRIMES, REAL OR IMAGINED. AND I DON'T POST ABOUT TRUMP'S BC YANNO WHAT??? I DON'T CARE ALL THAT MUCH. That's not what I judge a President or Cabinet member on.

Apparently you think I'm supposed to join in your obsessive hatred of Trump, that has you posting a dozen posts a day about Trump's "crimes".

My point is that I didn't even do that about the Clintons, even tho I think they're far more perverted.

So, not gonna join in your obsessive and unhinged hate- fest, no matter how many times you call me 'comrade' (also bc I've committed some imaginary 'crimes').

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There are other troubling aspects of Hillary's (and Bill's) reigns.

Victoria "fuck the EU" Nuland, who was recorded hand-picking the next government of Ukraine ("Yats is our guy"), worked for Hillary.

The shipment of 78 planeloads of weapons from Qatar and Saudi Arabia thru Turkey to jihadists in Libya? On Hillary's watch.

The transshipment of those same weapons from Benghazi to Syria by the CIA, with Ambassador Stevens' involvement? ALSO in Hillary's watch. (And don't forget- ambassadors work for the State Department).

There was a reason why Hillary wanted a private email server, and it wasn't to exchange recipes!

Those multi-hundred thousand speaking engagements to Wall Street? Yep, Hillary.

And those campaign contributions!

Emily's List $939,881 (identity-voters, rumored to have been started by Soros)
Citigroup Inc $883,547 (international bank)
DLA Piper $847,930 (international law firm for corporations and banks)
Goldman Sachs $821,031 (I think we all know who this is)
JPMorgan Chase & Co $771,111 (same here)
Morgan Stanley $754,538 (ditto)
University of California $608,858
Time Warner $591,524
Skadden, Arps et al $522,688 (international law firm for corporations, banks and financials)
Corning Inc $492,750 maker of specialty glass, including weapons-sighting systems
Kirkland & Ellis $443,420 (yet another intl law firm this one for corporate tax, intellectual property etc)
Paul, Weiss et al $427,062 intl corporate law firm with offices in China and elsewhere
Greenberg Traurig LLP $411,640 yet another intl law firm, from Mexico City to Seoul to Berlin
Sullivan & Cromwell $396,625 yet another intl law firm, corporate and ultrawealthy individuals
Akin, Gump et al $393,531 yet another intl law firm, IP, trade, labor, energy etc
National Amusements Inc $366,640 of which Viacom and CBS are subsidiaries
21st Century Fox $363,899 like above
Lehman Brothers $362,853 we all know who this is
Ernst & Young $360,127 intl audit firm
Harvard University $359,451 we all know who this is

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&
cycle=Career

A lot of people seem to think that because "she's a woman" or because "she's a Democrat" or because "she's the Party's choice" that she's going to be a safe candidate who will work for our interests.

HA!

And that glowing smile about killing Qaddafi. WTF??????


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Would The World Survive President Hillary?

Paul Craig Roberts

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This is an English translation of an article that I wrote for the German magazine, Compact. I was encouraged by the high level of intelligent discourse that Compact brings to its readers. If only the US had more people capable of reaching beyond entertainment to comprehending the forces that affect them, there might be some hope for America.

Compact brings hope to Germany. The German people are beginning to understand that their country is not sovereign but a vassal of Washington and that their chancellor serves Washington’s hegemony and American financial interests, and not the German people.

Hillary Clinton is proving to be the “teflon candidate.” In her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, she has escaped damage from major scandals, any one of which would destroy a politician. Hillary has accepted massive bribes in the form of speaking fees from financial organizations and corporations. She is under investigation for misuse of classified data, an offense for which a number of whistleblowers are in prison. Hillary has survived the bombing of Libya, her creation of a failed Libyan state that is today a major source of terrorist jihadists, and the Benghazi controversy. She has survived charges that as Secretary of State she arranged favors for foreign interests in exchange for donations to the Clintons’ foundation. And, of course, there is a long list of previous scandals: Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate. Diana Johnstone’s book, Queen of Chaos, describes Hillary Clinton as “the top salesperson for the ruling oligarchy.”

Hillary Clinton is a bought-and-paid-for representative of the big banks, the military-security complex, and the Israel Lobby. She will represent these interests, not those of the American people or America’s European allies.

The Clintons’ purchase by interest groups is public knowledge. For example, CNN reports that between February 2001 and May 2015 Bill and Hillary Clinton were paid $153 million in speaking fees for 729 speeches, an average price of $210,000.

As it became evident that Hillary Clinton would emerge as the likely Democratic presidential candidate, she was paid more. Deutsche Bank paid her $485,000 for one speech, and Goldman Sachs paid her $675,000 for three speeches. Bank of American Morgan Stanley, UBS, and Fidelity Investments each paid $225,000. https://theintercept.com/2016/01/08/hillary-clinton-earned-more-from-1
2-speeches-to-big-banks-than-most-americans-earn-in-their-lifetime/

Despite Hillary’s blatent willingness to be bribed in public, her opponent, Bernie Sanders, has not succeeded in making an issue of Hillary’s shamelessness. Both of the main establishment newspapers, the Washington Post and the New York Times have come to Hillary’s defense.

Hillary is a war-monger. She pushed the Obama regime into the destruction of a stable and largely cooperative government in Libya where the “Arab Spring” was a CIA-backed group of jihadists who were used to dislodge China from its oil investments in eastern Libya. She urged her husband to bomb Yugoslavia. She pushed for “regime change” in Syria. She oversaw the coup that overthrew the democratically elected president of Honduras. She brought neoconservative Victoria Nuland, who arranged the coup that overthrew the democratically elected president of Ukraine, into the State Department. Hillary has called President Vladimir Putin of Russia the “new Hitler.” Hillary as president guarantees war and more war. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/hillary-clintons-six-foreign-po
licy-catastrophes.html

In the United States government has been privatized. Office holders use their positions in order to make themselves wealthy, not in order to serve the public interest. Bill and Hillary Clinton epitomize the use of public office in behalf of the office holder’s interest. For the Clintons government means using public office to be rewarded for doing favors for private interests. The Wall Street Journal reported that “at least 60 companies that lobbied the State Department during her [Hillary Clinton’s] tenure as Secretary of State donated a total of more than $26 million to the Clinton Foundation.” http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/hillary-clinton-exposed-part-1-
aggressively-lobbied-mega-corporations-secretary-state.html

According to washingtonsblog.com, “All told, the Clinton Foundation and its affiliates have collected donations and pledges from all souces of more than $1.6 billion, accoring to their tax returns.”

According to rootsactionteam.com, multi-million dollar donors to the Clinton Foundation include Saudi Arabia, Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk, Kuwait, ExxonMobil, Friends of Saudi Arabia, James Murdoch, Qatar, Boeing, Dow, Goldman Sachs, Walmart, and the United Arab Emirates.

According to the International Business Times, “Under Hillary Clinton, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments had given millions to the Clinton Foundation.” http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hil
lary-clintons-state-department-1934187

Hillary Clinton has escaped unharmed from so many crimes and scandals that she would likely be the most reckless president in American history. With the arms race renewed, with Russia declared “an existential threat to the United States,” and with Hillary’s declaration of President Putin as the new Hitler, Hillary’s arrogant self-confidence is likely to result in over-reach that ends in conflict between NATO and Russia. Considering the extraordinary destructive force of nuclear weapons, Hillary as president could mean the end of life on earth.

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http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/04/13/president-killary-paul-crai
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ONEOFTHETHREESTOOGES, do you have any idea who Paul Craig Roberts is? He worked as the United States Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy under President Reagan in 1981. Reagan was hardly a "commie-lover", and neither is Paul Craig Roberts.

Just like THEOTHERTWOSTOOGES, you argue "source" not facts.


Has Hillary not accepted massive speaking fees from financial organizations and corporations? Were not Bill and Hillary Clinton paid $153 million in speaking fees for 729 speeches, an average price of $210,000?

As Presidential candidate, was she not paid $485,000 for one speech by DB and $675,000 by Goldman Sachs?

Is she not "under investigation for misuse of classified data, an offense for which a number of whistleblowers are in prison"?

Did she not promulgate the destruction of Libya, and create "a failed Libyan state that is today a major source of terrorist jihadists, and the Benghazi controversy"?

Was she not charged with arranging "favors for foreign interests in exchange for donations to the Clintons’ foundation" as Scy State?

As Scy State, did she not bring in "neoconservative Victoria Nuland into the State Department"?

Did Hillary not call President Vladimir Putin of Russia the “new Hitler”?

What, if anything, is factually wrong with the article?

Or is it that you simply don't like what it reveals about Hillary?


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Hillary Clinton is a bought-and-paid-for representative of the big banks, the military-security complex, and the Israel Lobby. She will represent these interests, not those of the American people or America’s European allies.

Hillary is a war-monger. She pushed the Obama regime into the destruction of a stable and largely cooperative government in Libya where the “Arab Spring” was a CIA-backed group of jihadists who were used to dislodge China from its oil investments in eastern Libya. She urged her husband to bomb Yugoslavia. She pushed for “regime change” in Syria. She oversaw the coup that overthrew the democratically elected president of Honduras. She brought neoconservative Victoria Nuland, who arranged the coup that overthrew the democratically elected president of Ukraine, into the State Department. Hillary has called President Vladimir Putin of Russia the “new Hitler.” Hillary as president guarantees war and more war. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/hillary-clintons-six-foreign-po
licy-catastrophes.html

In the United States government has been privatized. Office holders use their positions in order to make themselves wealthy, not in order to serve the public interest. Bill and Hillary Clinton epitomize the use of public office in behalf of the office holder’s interest. For the Clintons government means using public office to be rewarded for doing favors for private interests. The Wall Street Journal reported that “at least 60 companies that lobbied the State Department during her [Hillary Clinton’s] tenure as Secretary of State donated a total of more than $26 million to the Clinton Foundation.” http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/hillary-clinton-exposed-part-1-
aggressively-lobbied-mega-corporations-secretary-state.html

According to washingtonsblog.com, “All told, the Clinton Foundation and its affiliates have collected donations and pledges from all souces of more than $1.6 billion, accoring to their tax returns.”

According to rootsactionteam.com, multi-million dollar donors to the Clinton Foundation include Saudi Arabia, Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk, Kuwait, ExxonMobil, Friends of Saudi Arabia, James Murdoch, Qatar, Boeing, Dow, Goldman Sachs, Walmart, and the United Arab Emirates.

According to the International Business Times, “Under Hillary Clinton, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments had given millions to the Clinton Foundation.” http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hil
lary-clintons-state-department-1934187

Hillary Clinton has escaped unharmed from so many crimes and scandals that she would likely be the most reckless president in American history. With the arms race renewed, with Russia declared “an existential threat to the United States,” and with Hillary’s declaration of President Putin as the new Hitler, Hillary’s arrogant self-confidence is likely to result in over-reach that ends in conflict between NATO and Russia. Considering the extraordinary destructive force of nuclear weapons, Hillary as president could mean the end of life on earth.

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http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/04/13/president-killary-paul-crai
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Geezus, the man likes his hyperbole. (even his name is hyperbolic as fas as names go) -ONEOFTHETHREESTOOGES

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OMFG you're hopeless. I DON'T POST ENDLESSLY ABOUT THE CLINTONS CRIMES, REAL OR IMAGINED. AND I DON'T POST ABOUT TRUMP'S BC YANNO WHAT??? I DON'T CARE ALL THAT MUCH. That's not what I judge a President or Cabinet member on.
Apparently you think I'm supposed to join in your obsessive hatred of Trump, that has you posting a dozen posts a day about Trump's "crimes".
My point is that I didn't even do that about the Clintons, even tho I think they're far more perverted.
So, not gonna join in your obsessive and unhinged hate- fest, no matter how many times you call me 'comrade' (also bc I've committed some imaginary 'crimes').
You're stupid, and a loser.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There are other troubling aspects of Hillary's (and Bill's) reigns.

Victoria "fuck the EU" Nuland, who was recorded hand-picking the next government of Ukraine ("Yats is our guy"), worked for Hillary.

The shipment of 78 planeloads of weapons from Qatar and Saudi Arabia thru Turkey to jihadists in Libya? On Hillary's watch.

The transshipment of those same weapons from Benghazi to Syria by the CIA, with Ambassador Stevens' involvement? ALSO in Hillary's watch. (And don't forget- ambassadors work for the State Department).

There was a reason why Hillary wanted a private email server, and it wasn't to exchange recipes!

Those multi-hundred thousand speaking engagements to Wall Street? Yep, Hillary.

And those campaign contributions!

Emily's List $939,881 (identity-voters, rumored to have been started by Soros)
Citigroup Inc $883,547 (international bank)
DLA Piper $847,930 (international law firm for corporations and banks)
Goldman Sachs $821,031 (I think we all know who this is)
JPMorgan Chase & Co $771,111 (same here)
Morgan Stanley $754,538 (ditto)
University of California $608,858
Time Warner $591,524
Skadden, Arps et al $522,688 (international law firm for corporations, banks and financials)
Corning Inc $492,750 maker of specialty glass, including weapons-sighting systems
Kirkland & Ellis $443,420 (yet another intl law firm this one for corporate tax, intellectual property etc)
Paul, Weiss et al $427,062 intl corporate law firm with offices in China and elsewhere
Greenberg Traurig LLP $411,640 yet another intl law firm, from Mexico City to Seoul to Berlin
Sullivan & Cromwell $396,625 yet another intl law firm, corporate and ultrawealthy individuals
Akin, Gump et al $393,531 yet another intl law firm, IP, trade, labor, energy etc
National Amusements Inc $366,640 of which Viacom and CBS are subsidiaries
21st Century Fox $363,899 like above
Lehman Brothers $362,853 we all know who this is
Ernst & Young $360,127 intl audit firm
Harvard University $359,451 we all know who this is

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&
cycle=Career

A lot of people seem to think that because "she's a woman" or because "she's a Democrat" or because "she's the Party's choice" that she's going to be a safe candidate who will work for our interests.
HA!
And that glowing smile about killing Qaddafi. WTF??????

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Would The World Survive President Hillary?

Paul Craig Roberts

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This is an English translation of an article that I wrote for the German magazine, Compact. I was encouraged by the high level of intelligent discourse that Compact brings to its readers. If only the US had more people capable of reaching beyond entertainment to comprehending the forces that affect them, there might be some hope for America.

Compact brings hope to Germany. The German people are beginning to understand that their country is not sovereign but a vassal of Washington and that their chancellor serves Washington’s hegemony and American financial interests, and not the German people.

Hillary Clinton is proving to be the “teflon candidate.” In her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, she has escaped damage from major scandals, any one of which would destroy a politician. Hillary has accepted massive bribes in the form of speaking fees from financial organizations and corporations. She is under investigation for misuse of classified data, an offense for which a number of whistleblowers are in prison. Hillary has survived the bombing of Libya, her creation of a failed Libyan state that is today a major source of terrorist jihadists, and the Benghazi controversy. She has survived charges that as Secretary of State she arranged favors for foreign interests in exchange for donations to the Clintons’ foundation. And, of course, there is a long list of previous scandals: Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate. Diana Johnstone’s book, Queen of Chaos, describes Hillary Clinton as “the top salesperson for the ruling oligarchy.”

Hillary Clinton is a bought-and-paid-for representative of the big banks, the military-security complex, and the Israel Lobby. She will represent these interests, not those of the American people or America’s European allies.

The Clintons’ purchase by interest groups is public knowledge. For example, CNN reports that between February 2001 and May 2015 Bill and Hillary Clinton were paid $153 million in speaking fees for 729 speeches, an average price of $210,000.

As it became evident that Hillary Clinton would emerge as the likely Democratic presidential candidate, she was paid more. Deutsche Bank paid her $485,000 for one speech, and Goldman Sachs paid her $675,000 for three speeches. Bank of American Morgan Stanley, UBS, and Fidelity Investments each paid $225,000. https://theintercept.com/2016/01/08/hillary-clinton-earned-more-from-1
2-speeches-to-big-banks-than-most-americans-earn-in-their-lifetime/

Despite Hillary’s blatent willingness to be bribed in public, her opponent, Bernie Sanders, has not succeeded in making an issue of Hillary’s shamelessness. Both of the main establishment newspapers, the Washington Post and the New York Times have come to Hillary’s defense.

Hillary is a war-monger. She pushed the Obama regime into the destruction of a stable and largely cooperative government in Libya where the “Arab Spring” was a CIA-backed group of jihadists who were used to dislodge China from its oil investments in eastern Libya. She urged her husband to bomb Yugoslavia. She pushed for “regime change” in Syria. She oversaw the coup that overthrew the democratically elected president of Honduras. She brought neoconservative Victoria Nuland, who arranged the coup that overthrew the democratically elected president of Ukraine, into the State Department. Hillary has called President Vladimir Putin of Russia the “new Hitler.” Hillary as president guarantees war and more war. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/hillary-clintons-six-foreign-po
licy-catastrophes.html

In the United States government has been privatized. Office holders use their positions in order to make themselves wealthy, not in order to serve the public interest. Bill and Hillary Clinton epitomize the use of public office in behalf of the office holder’s interest. For the Clintons government means using public office to be rewarded for doing favors for private interests. The Wall Street Journal reported that “at least 60 companies that lobbied the State Department during her [Hillary Clinton’s] tenure as Secretary of State donated a total of more than $26 million to the Clinton Foundation.” http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/hillary-clinton-exposed-part-1-
aggressively-lobbied-mega-corporations-secretary-state.html

According to washingtonsblog.com, “All told, the Clinton Foundation and its affiliates have collected donations and pledges from all souces of more than $1.6 billion, according to their tax returns.”

According to rootsactionteam.com, multi-million dollar donors to the Clinton Foundation include Saudi Arabia, Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk, Kuwait, ExxonMobil, Friends of Saudi Arabia, James Murdoch, Qatar, Boeing, Dow, Goldman Sachs, Walmart, and the United Arab Emirates.

According to the International Business Times, “Under Hillary Clinton, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments had given millions to the Clinton Foundation.” http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hil
lary-clintons-state-department-1934187

Hillary Clinton has escaped unharmed from so many crimes and scandals

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that she would likely be the most reckless president in American history. With the arms race renewed, with Russia declared “an existential threat to the United States,” and with Hillary’s declaration of President Putin as the new Hitler, Hillary’s arrogant self-confidence is likely to result in over-reach that ends in conflict between NATO and Russia. Considering the extraordinary destructive force of nuclear weapons, Hillary as president could mean the end of life on earth.

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http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/04/13/president-killary-paul-crai
g-roberts/

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