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Trump effect: Study finds 1 million illegal immigrants have left U.S. since January
Thursday, June 19, 2025 2:05 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:President Trump has not only stopped but reversed the Biden border surge, according to early Census Bureau data that suggests hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants have dropped out of the workforce and departed the country. Preliminary calculations by the Center for Immigration Studies, using the Census’s monthly survey, show that the number of immigrants in the labor force dropped by about 600,000 from January to May, and the overall number of immigrants in the U.S. fell by 957,000 over that same period. “It looks like there’s been a Trump effect on the number of illegal immigrants in the country, based on the best data that we have,” said Steven A. Camarota, the lead author of the study. He now figures there are 14.8 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., which is a million fewer than he estimated as of January, when President Biden turned the reins over to Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump is on a full-court press to usher illegal immigrants out of the U.S. Deportation officers have been unshackled from Biden-era restrictions and told to boost arrests to unprecedented levels. Homeland Security is also urging people to “self-deport” before they are caught. Meanwhile, the border has been shut down to illegal immigration to a degree not seen in modern times, so there aren’t newcomers to replace those who leave. Agriculture businesses have complained that their largely illegal immigrant workforce isn’t showing up, threatening America’s farming industry. Business groups have warned of broader workforce issues. But Mr. Camarota said the drop in illegal immigrants is an opportunity for those who had been competing against the illegal immigrants for jobs. “I think that this is good news particularly for less-educated Americans who are likely to see a rise in wages,” he said. “Maybe it’ll even be helpful in dragging some of these non-college-educated men who are working age back into the labor force.” The last four years have seen a major upheaval in the illegal immigrant population. At the start of 2021, as Mr. Trump gave way to Mr. Biden, there were 10.2 million illegal immigrants. That grew steadily to reach 15.8 million in January, Mr. Camarota said, before slipping to 14.8 million now. CIS data comes from the Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey, the monthly collection of data that’s used to calculate unemployment rates. It doesn’t ask about legal status but does track place of birth and citizenship, which allows demographers to estimate illegal immigrant numbers. Mr. Camarota said the recent months of data show a decline of a million people in that foreign-born population, and it has come entirely among those who haven’t naturalized. That is consistent with a major decline in illegal immigration, he said. The data also shows a drop of slightly more than 1 million in the number of noncitizens from Latin America. That population largely overlaps with the illegal immigrant population. Mr. Camarota called that strong evidence that the Trump effect is real. He offered some caveats to the data. It’s possible, for example, that immigrants haven’t left in such large numbers but have become more reluctant to answer census questionnaires. Or, when they do answer, they may not admit being foreign-born. Social Security this week released its latest projections, including a deep dive on demographics. It said the country has come through a period with startlingly high illegal immigration and temporary visitors, which it groups together. Social Security figured there were about 690,000 of them who came in 2020, though many also left, leaving a net increase of about 275,000. By 2022 more than 2 million came, and 1.5 million stayed. In 2023 it was 2.7 million who came, and 1.9 million who stayed. Last year it was 2.6 million arrivals and 1.8 million who stayed. Social Security assumed little change this year, projecting 2 million will arrive this year and 1.2 million will stay. The agency figured things will drop to about 1.4 million arrivals in 2026 and beyond, with an annual net of about 500,000.
Thursday, June 19, 2025 2:20 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Thursday, June 19, 2025 3:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Given recent stepped-up enforcement efforts, it is possible that the decline was due, in total, to a greater reluctance by immigrants to participate in the survey or to identify as foreign-born rather than an actual falloff in their numbers. https://cis.org/Report/Illegal-Population-Down-January The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Thursday, June 19, 2025 9:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Those that haven't fled are in hiding.
Thursday, June 19, 2025 10:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Those that haven't fled are in hiding.They are NOT hiding, but they did stop answering survey questions. 6ix can't tell the difference between leaving the country and not admitting to strangers that they are illegal aliens.
Thursday, June 19, 2025 10:47 PM
Quote:Social Security assumed little change this year, projecting 2 million will arrive this year and 1.2 million will stay. The agency figured that the number of arrivals would drop to about 1.4 million in 2026 and beyond, with an annual net of about 500,000.
Friday, June 20, 2025 5:02 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Friday, June 20, 2025 6:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Interesting. The Employment Situation report, which gives the unemployment rate, gets it's population data from Census. On the first friday of July, I wonder if this correction will show up. Normally almost 200K additional people are added per month, and 1.5-2.5 million per year. Correction of 1 million for the last 6 months should be evident. Should be interesting to see.
Thursday, July 3, 2025 1:20 AM
Thursday, July 3, 2025 7:24 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Quote:DeSantis said "He deported less, believe it or not, than Barack Obama even did."
Thursday, July 3, 2025 8:04 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Thursday, July 3, 2025 12:58 PM
Quote: Recall back in January 2024 we first asked how is it not the biggest political talking point that since 2019, the US had only added foreign-born workers (which as we subsequently showed were primarily illegal aliens) while native workers remained flat or declined. Less than a year later, illegal immigration in general, and its impact on the labor market indeed had become the biggest political talking point and one which one can argue got Trump elected. So in retrospect, we can report today that Trump has certainly been working hard to resolve the situation and according to today's job report, the number of native-born workers has taken a decisive step higher, rising to a new all time high while foreign-born workers have been plunging ever since the election.
Friday, July 4, 2025 3:04 AM
Friday, August 8, 2025 12:52 AM
Saturday, August 9, 2025 10:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Interesting. The Employment Situation report, which gives the unemployment rate, gets it's population data from Census. On the first friday of July, I wonder if this correction will show up. Normally almost 200K additional people are added per month, and 1.5-2.5 million per year. Correction of 1 million for the last 6 months should be evident. Should be interesting to see.I agree. Please keep this thread in mind and keep us up to date on this one. Any solid correlation provided would be excellent news. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency. Legend: 1st data column is Civilian Population. 2nd is Labor Force. 3rd is Foreign Born Population. 4th is the increase since same month last year. 5th is the increase since January. 6th is the count below the preceding peak count. 7th is Foreign Born Labor Force. 8th is LF increase since January. 9th is LF drop since the preceding peak count. 10th is Foreign Born Employed. 11th is Foreign Born Unemployed. 12th is Total nonfarm employees, of the total employed Labor Force. 13th is Government Employees. Then are Federal, State, and Local..
Quote:The Civilian Adult Population steadily Increases, suggesting that figure is not manipulated.
Saturday, August 9, 2025 11:28 PM
Saturday, August 9, 2025 11:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Any chances that with some time and keeping up with this that you feel there would be enough data for us to draw from without the need of the "experts" telling us what is true now that it's on your radar? -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Tuesday, August 12, 2025 2:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Any chances that with some time and keeping up with this that you feel there would be enough data for us to draw from without the need of the "experts" telling us what is true now that it's on your radar? -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul SimonThat is generally my intent, to reveal the raw facts and data, and if somebody differs in their viewpoint, they can draw their own conclusions instead of relying upon Libtard Lying Fake News. Caveat: if you have read the source articles, the analysts are essentially assuming that decreases in Foreign Born population is due to net negative migration. There is really no guarantee that it is not reflecting a death plague of U.S. Citizens who were born in another country, or any other explanation for the decrease. But the assumption is plausible.
Tuesday, August 12, 2025 5:06 AM
Quote:WASHINGTON (TND) — Of the more than 323,000 jobs added to the U.S. workforce by major companies in 2021, 94% went to people of color, according to Bloomberg. The data stems from an analysis of 88 workforce demographic reports submitted to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission by S&P 100 companies. The companies include industry giants Apple, Wells Fargo and Walmart. Of the 88 companies, which employ a combined 9 million people, 74 saw an increase in the number of workers of color from 2020 to 2021. White workers accounted for 20,524 jobs or just 6%, while people of color accounted for 300,000 jobs. Hispanic individuals accounted for the most hires with 40%, followed by Black and Asian people with 23% and 22% respectively. The shift followed public commitments by several of these companies in 2020 to hire more people of color, according to Bloomberg. Microsoft promised to double its number of Black managers and senior leaders in the U.S. by 2025, while Amazon said it would double its number of Black vice presidents and directors.
Tuesday, August 12, 2025 9:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: . . . when they started hiring people back, 94% of the jobs went to minorities at Fortune 500 companies.
Tuesday, August 12, 2025 5:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: . . . when they started hiring people back, 94% of the jobs went to minorities at Fortune 500 companies.Trumptards, i.e. angry poor white trash, are being harmed. I feel an Executive Order from Trump is necessary to correct the persecution of his people. The President should force companies to hire worthless white assholes who vote, or else Trump will place an emergency tariff on their sales. https://www.google.com/search?q=the+percent+of+each+race+employed+versus+percent+of+U.S.+population The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Tuesday, August 12, 2025 6:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Interesting observation. I posted about this before, but I don't know if you saw it or caught it on your own if you didn't see it here... Major US companies gave 94% of new jobs to people of color in 2021, report says https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/major-us-companies-gave-94-of-new-jobs-to-people-of-color-in-2021-report-says-diversity-hiring-employees-apple-nike-microsoft-wells-fargo Quote:WASHINGTON (TND) — Of the more than 323,000 jobs added to the U.S. workforce by major companies in 2021, 94% went to people of color, according to Bloomberg. The data stems from an analysis of 88 workforce demographic reports submitted to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission by S&P 100 companies. The companies include industry giants Apple, Wells Fargo and Walmart. Of the 88 companies, which employ a combined 9 million people, 74 saw an increase in the number of workers of color from 2020 to 2021. White workers accounted for 20,524 jobs or just 6%, while people of color accounted for 300,000 jobs. Hispanic individuals accounted for the most hires with 40%, followed by Black and Asian people with 23% and 22% respectively. The shift followed public commitments by several of these companies in 2020 to hire more people of color, according to Bloomberg. Microsoft promised to double its number of Black managers and senior leaders in the U.S. by 2025, while Amazon said it would double its number of Black vice presidents and directors. They kicked nearly 20% of the workforce out of work practically overnight, told them it would only be for 2 weeks to "flatten the curve" but in some states this went on for YEARS, they poured salt in the wounds every day by calling them all non-essential every opportunity that they could, and then when they started hiring people back, 94% of the jobs went to minorities at Fortune 500 companies. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Tuesday, August 12, 2025 6:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I had seen that, but it kept talking abouot POC - tranlasting to black people. Black was mentioned repeatedly in the story, and only once did they briefly mention that it was Hispanics more than blacks or asian. DEI, BLM, Cathode Ray Tube, seemed to be the report focus. Blacks are not really the majority of Criminal Illegal Alien invaders from Mexico, Central, and South America. That report did not mention, IIRC, anything about Foreign Born.
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