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Assessing facts, evidence and accountability - Ukraine v. Russia
Monday, May 23, 2022 9:45 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Monday, May 23, 2022 10:00 AM
THG
Monday, May 23, 2022 7:47 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: SIG: you said the reporting U. v R. was fact free - Which ones do you consider false and why?
Monday, May 23, 2022 8:22 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: SIG: you said the reporting U. v R. was fact free - Which ones do you consider false and why?NO. I said that the ASSUMPTION that Russia was "losing so much military equipment" was fact-free, because you haven't been able to quantify HOW MUCH military equipment has been lost. I must have asked that question over a dozen times. You couldn't have missed them! Why don't you ask your question with a less disingenuous intro and I'll answer it. Try something simple like: "Which statements do you feel are inaccurate, and why?"
Monday, May 23, 2022 9:05 PM
Monday, May 23, 2022 9:23 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Assessing facts, evidence and accountability - Ukraine v. Russia
Monday, May 23, 2022 10:54 PM
Quote:Zelensky Says If Ukraine Falls, American Lives Will Be At Risk ...there will be a domino effect ...
Tuesday, May 24, 2022 8:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: SIG: you said the reporting U. v R. was fact free - Which ones do you consider false and why? NO. I said that the ASSUMPTION that Russia was "losing so much military equipment" was fact-free, because you haven't been able to quantify HOW MUCH military equipment has been lost. I must have asked that question over a dozen times. You couldn't have missed them! Why don't you ask your question with a less disingenuous intro and I'll answer it. Try something simple like: "Which statements do you feel are inaccurate, and why?"
Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:36 PM
Quote: captaincrunch: SIG: you said the reporting U. v R. was fact free - Which ones do you consider false and why? NO. I said that the ASSUMPTION that Russia was "losing so much military equipment" was fact-free, because you haven't been able to quantify HOW MUCH military equipment has been lost. I must have asked that question over a dozen times. You couldn't have missed them! Why don't you ask your question with a less disingenuous intro and I'll answer it. Try something simple like: "Which statements do you feel are inaccurate, and why?" CAPON: S: "Which statements do you feel are inaccurate, and why?" C: "Which ones do you consider false and why?" There's a difference? Choose whichever one you want - you're just stalling. No matter, I got lots of time.
Quote:SIG: you said the reporting U. v R. was fact free
Quote: Why is Russia losing so much military equipment?
Tuesday, May 24, 2022 2:58 PM
Tuesday, May 24, 2022 5:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: SIG: you said the reporting U. v R. was fact free - Which ones do you consider false and why? 1. - Putin misjudged how his invasion would only unite "Ukies" and motivate them to fight back and embarras the Russian *army.
Quote:;2. - Putin couldn't take Kyiv in 7 days despite his (anemic, train wreck) of a bull rush to do so. If it was a feint it was the most costly, dumbest feint in military history. In fact, ANY attempt to explain it as a "plan" makes it look even worse. "He meant to do that??"
Quote:3. - Russian military used insecure communications - "Hello, Dimitri? I am sitting here with the Z 48 battalion waiting for you... I am at the following coordinates..." boom.
Quote:4. - Putin keeps losing generals.
Quote:5. - Putin has united the West and the EU and NATO.
Quote:6. - Putin completely misjudged Finland and Sweden. Both are applying to join NATO, Putin's nightmare.
Quote: 7. - Putin's own "G7" he has only one ally, Belarus, who have yet to join the fight. No ally really.
Quote: 8. - Putin completely misjudged how many companies would leave Russia. ANY attempt to say that it was a plan makes it look even worse.
Quote: 9. - Russian army failed to use proper logistics. 40 mile traffic jam/ cluster-fck.
Quote:10. - Russia loses their Prized ship to a country without a nvy.
Quote:11. - Putin has motivated many of the most educated Russians to leave the country - brain drain just like Stalin.
Quote:12. - Putin has caused long term damage to Russia's economy
Quote:13. - Putin has caused long term damage to Russia's world standing.
Quote:14. - Putin miscalculated how many young Russian soldiers would die.
Quote:15. - Russia failed to take out Ukraine air defense system.
Quote:16. - Putin has motivated some of Russia's largest oil and gas customers to Mstrike> find LOOK FOR alternative suppliers, and - maybe most significantly - to accelerate their alternative energy programs (thanks Putin!).
Quote:17. - Putin is even losing the sin(?) war. Except with his own state run tv brain washed and threatened citizens who face jail time for speaking the Truth.
Quote:18. - Putin misjudges just how much Russia is hated around the globe.
Quote:19. - Russian army failed to prepare their troops for what their real "operation" was.
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:15 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:16. - Putin has motivated some of Russia's largest oil and gas customers to Mstrike> find LOOK FOR alternative suppliers, and - maybe most significantly - to accelerate their alternative energy programs (thanks Putin!). EU nations have looked to various mideast and African alternates and even Venezuela (!) for alternate supplies but without much success. One of the problems with oil and gas = especially oil= is that it's not fungible/interchangeable. Most people don't realize that refineries are custom built, reflecting the type of crude to be processed and the technology of the day. MANY refineries are geared to handle heavy crude ... oil which is higher in carbon and often higher in sulfur, with larger oil molecules. Harder to process, needing hydrotreatig/hydrocracking and different catalysts for catalytic cracking but MUCH cheaper to buy. Since the molecules are larger, you can get more diesel out of heavy crude than out of a light crude which is where those refineries take their profit. Russia, like Venezuela, exports a heavy crude. Anyway, no alternatives of the scale necessary have been found, which is why the gas-for-rubles payment system is being conceded and why the oil embargo cant get off the ground.
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:23 AM
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: SIG: you said the reporting U. v R. was fact free - Which ones do you consider false and why? 1. - Putin misjudged how his invasion would only unite "Ukies" and motivate them to fight back and embarras the Russian *army. It's not "Putin" that judges these things but his spies and analysts ("intelligence"). There was only one example of probable misjudgement and that was in the initial assault on Antonov Airport (17 miles from Kiev) by elite paratroopers, who weren't able to hold the airport. Aside from one obvious hiccup, I don't know how you could know what the Security Council misjudged, since you don't know what their plan was to begin with. What some analyst say is that Russia is attempting to "go soft", not bomb Ukraine to smithereens, which accounts for their reliance on ground troops. Quote:;2. - Putin couldn't take Kyiv in 7 days despite his (anemic, train wreck) of a bull rush to do so. If it was a feint it was the most costly, dumbest feint in military history. In fact, ANY attempt to explain it as a "plan" makes it look even worse. "He meant to do that??" It is widely acknowledged that the number of troops committed (40,000?) would never be able to take a spread-out city of 3 million people if Kiev's troops were committed to street to street fighting. Clearly there was some other plan at work. I think the plan was to take and control the administrative centers (Rada, communications etc) with spec ops, but that depended on taking and holding Antonov Airport. Why they didn't go for Kiev Intl I don't know. Once the airport operation failed, it looks like they attempted to scare the leadership with a show of force, which also screwed up. Curiously, the 40-mile convoy was never destroyed by Kiev, according to a Kiev -friendly analysis. (I have that bookmarked on another device which I will post later). Sounds like a screwup on Kiev's part. Once the initial assault failed, it looked like Russian forces attempted to retrieve the situation by turning it into a feint. That whole operation is closed in mystery and subject to multiple interpretations but it looks like the original onjective(s) - altho not a blitzkreig "invasion" of Kiev- failed. [god bless - some rational simple observation - thx} whatever it was. It looked pretty scrambly for a while. Quote:3. - Russian military used insecure communications - "Hello, Dimitri? I am sitting here with the Z 48 battalion waiting for you... I am at the following coordinates..." boom. There is no evidence that this happened besides Kiev's say-so. You can see the secure comms antennas on Russian equipment, and soldiers are not permitted cellphones. Evidenced by the lack of Russian videos. Also, the way EU cellphones are secured, you can't just steal/grab one from someone else. If this happened it is RARE. I already addressed this. Quote:4. - Putin keeps losing generals. And...? Unlike the American military, commanding officers are on the front line. Quote:5. - Putin has united the West and the EU and NATO. Er, no. EU is NOT united on the sanctions:. The resistance to "gas for rubles" has fallen apart and the oil embargo drive has stalled. Also, while I see nations willing to give Ukraine a lot of old junk equipment, I don't see a big drive to support Ukraine militarily. Poland is the exception. Quote:6. - Putin completely misjudged Finland and Sweden. Both are applying to join NATO, Putin's nightmare. NATO misjudged Turkey, which is threatening to block their accession. Now that the Finnish PM realizes that she just painted a giant bullseye on Finland for no result, Finland is busy backtracking by promising no nuclear NATO weapons. Russia isn't taking those promises seriously and has cut off gas (for non-payment) and electricity. Quote: 7. - Putin's own "G7" he has only one ally, Belarus, who have yet to join the fight. No ally really. Russia is a member of the SCO which is a loose defensive alliance of 8 member states, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_Shanghai_Cooperation_Organization and the CTSO https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organization , another security organization. In addition, Russia has the solid military backing of China. They hold many joint exercises. I think China WANTS to join the fight. Its troops need real combat experience, which you're never going to get no matter how many "live fire" exercises you go thru. For whatever reason, Russia wants to do this mostly by itself, and by committing as few troops as possible, holding over 200,000 in reserve in case NATO joins the fight. ***** Let me reiterate that very few of these items belong under "Why is Russia losing so much military equipment"? Most of these are political or economic and have no bearing on military equioment. [who said they did?] Quote: 8. - Putin completely misjudged how many companies would leave Russia. ANY attempt to say that it was a plan makes it look even worse. How would you know? Do you sit on Russia's Security Council? What evidence do you have for this statement? Quote: 9. - Russian army failed to use proper logistics. 40 mile traffic jam/ cluster-fck. This is a repeat item. Apparently the convoy (Convoy did NOT contain fighting vehicles. it was all supplies, most critically fuel.) Russia doesn't seem to have repeated that mistake. I contrast that with Ukraine's "stand and fight" policy, which is tossing thousands of soldiers into a meat grinder and should be changed, but hasn't. Quote:10. - Russia loses their Prized ship to a country without a nvy. The Moskva was not a "prized" ship. It was apparently due for decommissioning some time back in the 90s. The then-mayor of Moscow paid to have it put back into service when it was renamed the Moskva. The cause of the sinking is disputed. Some analysts say they don't see missile holes in the hull of the ship and think it was an onboard accident. I haven't looked into this. Either it was a failure of anti-missile defenses or improper construction or training. Any way, it was a fuck-up. Quote:11. - Putin has motivated many of the most educated Russians to leave the country - brain drain just like Stalin. HOW MANY have left? I haven't seen any stats on this. Some Russians have mentioned the emigration of fifth-columnists, but these aren't necessarily the most educated, just the most pro-western, and tey may not be in large numbers anyway. Quote:12. - Putin has caused long term damage to Russia's economy I don't think so. Russian suppliers have sprung up to take the place of western suppliers. I would be more concerned if Russia leaned towards becoming more dependent on foreign trade for production (like China), but it doesn't. Quote:13. - Putin has caused long term damage to Russia's world standing. Again, I don't think so. There are many nations that fear and resent the USA/western hegemony, and these nations see Russia as an example and a possible sponsor. Quote:14. - Putin miscalculated how many young Russian soldiers would die. HOW MANY have died? And how do you know what the calculation was, anyway> Quote:15. - Russia failed to take out Ukraine air defense system. Huh? This is just flat-out wrong. Even Kiev acknowledges that Russia has near=complete freedom of the skies. That's why Kiev was agitating for the west to esablish a no-fly zone. Quote:16. - Putin has motivated some of Russia's largest oil and gas customers to Mstrike> find LOOK FOR alternative suppliers, and - maybe most significantly - to accelerate their alternative energy programs (thanks Putin!). EU nations have looked to various mideast and African alternates and even Venezuela (!) for alternate supplies but without much success. One of the problems with oil and gas = especially oil= is that it's not fungible/interchangeable. Most people don't realize that refineries are custom built, reflecting the type of crude to be processed and the technology of the day. MANY refineries are geared to handle heavy crude ... oil which is higher in carbon and often higher in sulfur, with larger oil molecules. Harder to process, needing hydrotreatig/hydrocracking and different catalysts for catalytic cracking but MUCH cheaper to buy. Since the molecules are larger, you can get more diesel out of heavy crude than out of a light crude which is where those refineries take their profit. Russia, like Venezuela, exports a heavy crude. Anyway, no alternatives of the scale necessary have been found, which is why the gas-for-rubles payment system is being conceded and why the oil embargo cant get off the ground. Quote:17. - Putin is even losing the sin(?) war. Except with his own state run tv brain washed and threatened citizens who face jail time for speaking the Truth. Must have gotten garbled Quote:18. - Putin misjudges just how much Russia is hated around the globe. Thi is a repeat. What I think the west had misjudged is how much THEY are hated around the world Quote:19. - Russian army failed to prepare their troops for what their real "operation" was. How do you know this? Please discount any "reporting" from Kiev about ... well, anything. People who claim to know what Russia's preparations. expectations, and plans were are fooling themselves. And then, when they compare their bogus "Russian paradigm" against equally bogus numbers, all that can result are bogus conclusions.
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 10:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Goddamn Siggy. I knew you were off your nut, but your willingness to just float any ole thing, or any wild guess as proof of something - no cites, no evidence, just biased speculation from unknown sources - is, impressive. I have to ask again, why do you bother? You just make your Russian devotion stand out even further.
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 10:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Goddamn Siggy. I knew you were off your nut, but your willingness to just float any ole thing, or any wild guess as proof of something - no cites, no evidence, just biased speculation from unknown sources - is, impressive. I have to ask again, why do you bother? You just make your Russian devotion stand out even further.This isn't unique to Signym. There so many people who fabricate new realities as fast as they can type and/or talk. They are fictional story tellers, but they are paid for what they do as salesmen, propagandists, fantasy/science fiction screenplay writers, politicians, TV Evangelical Ministers, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_evangelists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Osteen The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 12:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Goddamn Siggy. I knew you were off your nut, but your willingness to just float any ole thing, or any wild guess as proof of something - no cites, no evidence, just biased speculation from unknown sources - is, impressive. I have to ask again, why do you bother? You just make your Russian devotion stand out even further.This isn't unique to Signym. There so many people who fabricate new realities as fast as they can type and/or talk. They are fictional story tellers, but they are paid for what they do as salesmen, propagandists, fantasy/science fiction screenplay writers, politicians, TV Evangelical Ministers, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_evangelists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Osteen
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 1:13 PM
Quote:CA{OMN: Goddamn Siggy. I knew you were off your nut, but your willingness to just float any ole thing, or any wild guess as proof of something - no cites, no evidence, just biased speculation from unknown sources - is, impressive.
Quote: I ask again, why do you bother?
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 2:00 PM
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 2:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Keep talking about stupid bullshit nobody cares about, Cap'n, and I'll just sit back and watch while Democrats destroy themselves.
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 2:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Keep talking about stupid bullshit nobody cares about, Cap'n, and I'll just sit back and watch while Democrats destroy themselves. No kidding. The Biden* policies are trainwrecks and everybody knows it's the DNC's fault. Cue CHINA!CHINA! and whatever other confetti they can toss in the air. It probably won't work. Inflation is grinding on people every day, especially food and gas prices.
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 3:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:CA{OMN: Goddamn Siggy. I knew you were off your nut, but your willingness to just float any ole thing, or any wild guess as proof of something - no cites, no evidence, just biased speculation from unknown sources - is, impressive. You posted 19 statements with nohing to back them up. YOUR ability to post any ole thing that is put in your head is impressive. I answered the way you posted. Unlike you, I have specific sources for my statements (when I post I THINK it is solely what I think, otherwise there are sources) but I wasn't going to spend a fuck-ton of time on this.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: I ask again, why do you bother? Huh??? You pestered me over and over again to answer your quesion. And NOW you ask why I bothered?
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 5:14 PM
Quote: CAPON: Nobody brings the stupid deflection delaying tactic like Siggy. Here, my actual question: "Why do you bother?"
Thursday, May 26, 2022 6:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: HOW MANY TIMES did you pester me to address your post? Five times across TWO threads? More??
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: I addressed your scheiss, which had NO sourcing for the crap that fell out of your head. And now you ask me why I bother?
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: I won't bother, no matter how much you beg me. And if you bother to ask me why, I won't remind you.
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: But everyone else here will remember.
Thursday, May 26, 2022 8:42 AM
Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:16 PM
Quote:SignyM: HOW MANY TIMES did you pester me to address your post? Five times across TWO threads? More?? CAPON: Damn straight. Takes a heap of persistence to get you to answer simple questions. You act like you have all the answers but then you dodge answering "Five times across TWO threads? More??"
Thursday, May 26, 2022 3:36 PM
Quote:SIGNY: HOW MANY TIMES did you pester me to address your post? Five times across TWO threads? More?? CAPON: Damn straight. Takes a heap of persistence to get you to answer simple questions. You act like you have all the answers but then you dodge answering "Five times across TWO threads? More??" SIGNY: UNLIKE YOU, this is not my paid job. I have more important things to do than cater to your whining. You say you have sources? Link them. C'mon, you want me to spend my time tracking down every source? AFTER YOU. I'll bet they're all M$M and not a credible article in the whole pile of manure.
Friday, May 27, 2022 9:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: SIGNY: UNLIKE YOU, this is not my paid job. I have more important things to do than cater to your whining. You say you have sources? Link them. C'mon, you want me to spend my time tracking down every source? AFTER YOU. I'll bet they're all M$M and not a credible article in the whole pile of manure.
Friday, May 27, 2022 10:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Honestly, we all knew you had nothing but BS from the start.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yep, AFTER THE ELECTION, Kushner tried to establish a confidential communications channel with a foreign power LIKE MOST PRESIDENTS DO. JO, THUGR, try to stop hyperventilating for a bit, okay? The Trump transition team was preparing to do exactly what it said it was going to do: Try to find common ground with Russia, and fight ISIS. Personally, I'm all for it. I don't see any reason to (1) destroy nations willy- nilly, (2) antagonize Russia for no reason, and (3) use ISIS as our proxy in the Middle East. The headlines may as well have read TRUMP TRANSITION TEAM PREPARES TO IMPLEMENT PLATFORM PLANK. I happen to be all for it because I think it's good for America. Just because you don't LIKE that policy doesn't make it "treason". You have to show ....as you have not yet done ... how that might be bad for America. Also, show that it was deliberately against our interests. Will you ever get to "step two"? 'Cause you've been stuck at "step one" for four months now. Now, I can show you top security people and Presidents who HAVE broken the Constitution and lied about it and have made ruinous decisions. Some of those people ... well, let's just say that they're still lying today. When are you going to start noticing THAT as treason? ----------- "Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck. I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
Friday, May 27, 2022 11:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: SIGNY: UNLIKE YOU, this is not my paid job. I have more important things to do than cater to your whining. You say you have sources? Link them. C'mon, you want me to spend my time tracking down every source? AFTER YOU. I'll bet they're all M$M and not a credible article in the whole pile of manure. ^ Just more dodging with added whining ^ It's your go-to pattern when anyone presents any details that make Puty / Russia look bad: 1. SIG makes bold statement, "This topic is Fact free!" 2. People ask Sig to present her facts 3. Sig posts unsourced, obvious personal goofyisms, "China wishes it were in this war on Russia's side." 4. Her *observations* are challenged 5. Then the dodging starts: Sig says counter posts are in the wrong thread 6. A new thread is started 7. Sig says "I don't like the wording!" 8. Things are re-worded 9. Zigzag says "No! Where are your links???" 10. I say, "I'm not using any Ukraine sources. Besides, you'll just dismiss any source I use." 11. ZIGzag says: "I'll bet they're all M$M and not a credible article in the whole pile of manure. " 12. I say, "See?" 13. I mention, "It was you that started this whole thing by complaining about zero facts. But now you won't produce any??" 13. Zigzag: Starts whining and lying: "I don't have time to get links! I don't do this for a living like you do! Wha!" Honestly, we all knew you had nothing but BS from the start.
Friday, May 27, 2022 11:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yep, AFTER THE ELECTION, Kushner tried to establish a confidential communications channel with a foreign power LIKE MOST PRESIDENTS DO. JO, THUGR, try to stop hyperventilating for a bit, okay? The Trump transition team was preparing to do exactly what it said it was going to do: Try to find common ground with Russia, and fight ISIS. Personally, I'm all for it. I don't see any reason to (1) destroy nations willy- nilly, (2) antagonize Russia for no reason, and (3) use ISIS as our proxy in the Middle East. The headlines may as well have read TRUMP TRANSITION TEAM PREPARES TO IMPLEMENT PLATFORM PLANK. I happen to be all for it because I think it's good for America. Just because you don't LIKE that policy doesn't make it "treason". You have to show ....as you have not yet done ... how that might be bad for America. Also, show that it was deliberately against our interests. Will you ever get to "step two"? 'Cause you've been stuck at "step one" for four months now. Now, I can show you top security people and Presidents who HAVE broken the Constitution and lied about it and have made ruinous decisions. Some of those people ... well, let's just say that they're still lying today. When are you going to start noticing THAT as treason?
Friday, May 27, 2022 11:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Honestly, we all knew you had nothing but BS from the start. Check out this day in Signym history May 27, 2017: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yep, AFTER THE ELECTION, Kushner tried to establish a confidential communications channel with a foreign power LIKE MOST PRESIDENTS DO. JO, THUGR, try to stop hyperventilating for a bit, okay? The Trump transition team was preparing to do exactly what it said it was going to do: Try to find common ground with Russia, and fight ISIS. Personally, I'm all for it. I don't see any reason to (1) destroy nations willy- nilly, (2) antagonize Russia for no reason, and (3) use ISIS as our proxy in the Middle East. The headlines may as well have read TRUMP TRANSITION TEAM PREPARES TO IMPLEMENT PLATFORM PLANK. I happen to be all for it because I think it's good for America. Just because you don't LIKE that policy doesn't make it "treason". You have to show ....as you have not yet done ... how that might be bad for America. Also, show that it was deliberately against our interests. Will you ever get to "step two"? 'Cause you've been stuck at "step one" for four months now. Now, I can show you top security people and Presidents who HAVE broken the Constitution and lied about it and have made ruinous decisions. Some of those people ... well, let's just say that they're still lying today. When are you going to start noticing THAT as treason? ----------- "Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck. I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1031467#1031467 Signym is still playing the same tired old games five years later.
Friday, May 27, 2022 12:55 PM
Quote:SIGNYM: Yep, AFTER THE ELECTION, Kushner tried to establish a confidential communications channel with a foreign power LIKE MOST PRESIDENTS DO. JO, THUGR, try to stop hyperventilating for a bit, okay? The Trump transition team was preparing to do exactly what it said it was going to do: Try to find common ground with Russia, and fight ISIS. Personally, I'm all for it. I don't see any reason to (1) destroy nations willy- nilly, (2) antagonize Russia for no reason, and (3) use ISIS as our proxy in the Middle East. The headlines may as well have read TRUMP TRANSITION TEAM PREPARES TO IMPLEMENT PLATFORM PLANK. I happen to be all for it because I think it's good for America. Just because you don't LIKE that policy doesn't make it "treason". You have to show ....as you have not yet done ... how that might be bad for America. Also, show that it was deliberately against our interests. Will you ever get to "step two"? 'Cause you've been stuck at "step one" for four months now. Now, I can show you top security people and Presidents who HAVE broken the Constitution and lied about it and have made ruinous decisions. Some of those people ... well, let's just say that they're still lying today. When are you going to start noticing THAT as treason?
Friday, May 27, 2022 1:40 PM
Friday, May 27, 2022 1:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: True then, still true today. RUSSIA!COLLUSION! was a hoax made up by the Hillary team.
Friday, May 27, 2022 2:42 PM
Friday, May 27, 2022 5:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Followed by Trump Derangement Syndrome .
Friday, May 27, 2022 9:31 PM
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Saturday, May 28, 2022 7:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: In an interview with BBC Newsnight, the former Russian-state TV journalist Zhanna Agalakova urges Russians to turn off their TVs if they want the truth about the war in Ukraine.
Sunday, May 29, 2022 3:14 AM
Quote: THUGR: In an interview with BBC Newsnight, the former Russian-state TV journalist Zhanna Agalakova urges Russians to turn off their TVs if they want the truth about the war in Ukraine.
Monday, May 30, 2022 10:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: THUGR: In an interview with BBC Newsnight, the former Russian-state TV journalist Zhanna Agalakova urges Russians to turn off their TVs if they want the truth about the war in Ukraine. It's a good thing you don't listen to Russian TV News, then! But don't you think it ...odd... that CAPON is afraid to source his posts? To the point where he's running away from his own thread? So how can you trust what he posts?
Monday, May 30, 2022 12:22 PM
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Monday, May 30, 2022 4:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: THUGR has once again established himself as the most brainwashed and gullible person here. Son, while you were insisting that Ukraine was "winning" I was accurately predicting the opposite. While you were insisting that sanctions were destroying Russia's economy and finances, I was accurately noting that it was the EU'S economy and currenct that was shrinking, while Russia's economy and fiance's were growing more robust. It is not being supportive or a troll to post THE TRUTH, instead of hogwash and hopium. You OTOH keep posting both. Grow up.
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