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Just like your free birds, he didn't actually have to do anything.

CNN and the rest of the propaganda machine did all the work.

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Are you like SIGS and think there aren't any Russian troops fighting in Ukraine?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh, BTW, you can hardly call Russia's attack on Ukraine "unprovoked".

The west has been attacking Russia one way or another for decades. NATOs steady progression to Russias border,

Placement of missile bases in Poland and Romania

Successful coup in Ukraine and its increasing militarization (including placement of bioweapons labs in Ukraine and Georgia),

Attempted coup in Belarus and Kazakhstan...

Plus the west's history/example of rampaging thru the world, destroying nations as the went...

Could all be considered threats to Russia, one way or another.

What does Russia want in Ukraine?

Neutralization and de-Nazification. They don't want to expand their borders, they just want a buffer zone of neutral nations.

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I don't speak for Sigs.

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I'm not there on the ground. I also know that shit like this gets staged all the time.

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When both CNN and FOX News are on the same page about anything, it should be a red flag for you.

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But do continue to just buy whatever shit they shovel you and never question anything.

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Huzzah! Legacy: Check!

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
urban warfare?

https://johnspenceronline.com/urban-warfare

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Huzzah! Legacy: Check!

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Is Ukraine forever done, it seems likie its already split with no read food, money, political or property left to someone who lived in this region the past years. A nation split and Urban Warfare begun?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: I would like to see proof that Saddam DID NOT have WMD.

In terms of hypothesis-testing, it is impossible to prove a negative.

So stop lying and playing stupid games.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey Zelinsky!

Put on a fuckin' suit, dude.

You're a US Planted President for chrissake, not some yuppy on the way to the local gym.

They even got Hunter to put on a suit when he was playing make believe in the Ukraine, and they even managed to get it regularly dry cleaned so he wasn't sitting at the table with bodily fluids and blow stuck to it.

Consider the suit a mandatory purchase out of that $20 billion dollars we're about to give you. Yanno... 1/3rd of the money it would take to end homelessness in America overnight.

You're welcome.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey Zelinsky!

Put on a fuckin' suit, dude.

You're a US Planted President for chrissake, not some yuppy on the way to the local gym.

They even got Hunter to put on a suit when he was playing make believe in the Ukraine, and they even managed to get it regularly dry cleaned so he wasn't sitting at the table with bodily fluids and blow stuck to it.

Consider the suit a mandatory purchase out of that $20 billion dollars we're about to give you. Yanno... 1/3rd of the money it would take to end homelessness in America overnight.

You're welcome.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey Zelinsky!

Put on a fuckin' suit, dude.

You're a US Planted President for chrissake, not some yuppy on the way to the local gym.

They even got Hunter to put on a suit when he was playing make believe in the Ukraine, and they even managed to get it regularly dry cleaned so he wasn't sitting at the table with bodily fluids and blow stuck to it.

Consider the suit a mandatory purchase out of that $20 billion dollars we're about to give you. Yanno... 1/3rd of the money it would take to end homelessness in America overnight.

You're welcome.

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Not that 6ix would understand, but the dry-cleaner is closed.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Still closed for Covid, huh?

Or did the lockdowns put all the dry cleaners out of business in the Ukraine then?

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

Putin would be isnane to try take the whole country but who knows how his crazy mind works. On social media it seems Banks and Political buildings and Birdges and Roads in Mariupol are falling to Russia & DPR. The city was largely and traditionally Russian-speaking, there are Ukrainian but there is also a significant ethnic Greek minority in the city, Pontic Greek are an ethnically Greek group who traditionally lived in the region of Pontus, on the shores of the Black Sea, there are also minority of Armenia peoples, Turkic speakers and Belarusian culture, Mariupol is amongst the ten most populous cities in Ukraine.

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Oh BTW, do you want to know why I know Russia is winning?

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Simply this: Why would Zelenskiy do his road show, begging for NATO intervention from Brussels, Germany, the UK, the USA, and anyone else who will listen, if he was "winning"?

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Simple observation and logic, sadly missing from me.

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Oh BTW, do you want to know why I know Russia is winning?

It has nothing to do with what Kiev says, or what Russia says, or what the M$M/ alt press says.

Simply this: Why would Zelenskiy do his road show, begging for NATO intervention from Brussels, Germany, the UK, the USA, and anyone else who will listen, if he was "winning"?

Simple observation and logic, sadly missing from many ppl

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According to the NYT (ahem!) 7000 Russian troops were killed, 25,000 injured, and the Russian army is 8 days (by now) away from collapsing.

If Kiev is THAT successful, why do they need a NATO no-fly zone? If the Russian army is in such dire straits, the only way they could reverse it is by striking NATO territory or going nuclear. In THAT case, what does a no-fly do?

Why doesn't the Kiev government just keep on keeping in for 8 more days?

One of your ignorant opinions contradicts the other ignorant opinion. But that's what happens to when you lap up swill uncritically?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Everybody is making baseless claims about everything.

It's 2022. We saw raw video footage of every literal second during weeks worth of Freedom Convoy protests in Canada, yet all we can get is some Legacy Media high-production propaganda pieces and pictures funded by the billions we're giving the Ukraine along with Zoom calls from "President*" Zelensky in his track suits from home, with zero real-world footage taken from cell phone cameras about the fake war you're so invested in right now?

You people are so fucking stupid it's unbelievable that I share any of the same DNA as you do.

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SignyM:
According to the NYT (ahem!) 7000 Russian troops were killed, 25,000 injured, and the Russian army is 8 days (by now) away from collapsing.

If Kiev is THAT successful, why do they need a NATO no-fly zone? If the Russian army is in such dire straits, the only way they could reverse it is by striking NATO territory or going nuclear. In THAT case, what does a no-fly do?

Why doesn't the Kiev government just keep on keeping in for 8 more days?

One of your ignorant opinions contradicts the other ignorant opinion. But that's what happens to when you lap up swill uncritically?

SECOND: Ukraine wants a no-fly zone because Russian planes are bombing civilians.

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SECOND: Ukraine wants a no-fly zone because Russian planes are bombing civilians.

As verified by the IRC? OSCE? Any credible third party?

Or is this just blown out of somebody's ass?

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Later, the Wolfsangel was adopted by the Nazi Party, and the symbol was used by various German Wehrmacht and SS units such as the Waffen-SS Division Das Reich and the Waffen-SS Division Landstorm Nederland. The US-based Anti-Defamation League (ADL) database lists the symbol as a hate symbol and a neo-Nazi symbol....

Outside of Germany, the Wolfsangel symbol was used by some Neo-Nazi organizations, such as in the United States where the Aryan Nations organization uses a white Wolfsangel symbol with a sword replacing the cross-bar in its logo. The US-based Anti-Defamation League (ADL) database lists the symbol as a hate symbol and a neo-Nazi symbol.

The Wolfsangel symbol was used in the Ukraine by the Social-National Party of Ukraine, Social-National Assembly, and Azov Battalion.

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And then, there is the strong possibility that the Ukie Nazis are hiding behind human shields and/or killing civilian hostages in false flag events. So why do you automatically blame Russia for things that may never have happened, or may be the fault of Ukie Nazis? And yes, there really are neo- Nazis in Ukraine. They can be identified by their tattoos, most often the wolfsangel. In act, if you look at Ukrainian history, a significant number of Ukies allied with the Nazis. It's not as if the Ukies have such a proud history of democracy! Many Ukies today still revere Bandera, an (in)famous Nazi collaborator.

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According to the IRC, 700 civilians have been killed in three weeks. Don't you think that if Russia was DELIBERATELY targting civilians that the count would be much, much higher?

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And then, there is the strong possibility that the Ukie Nazis are hiding behind human shields and/or killing civilian hostages in false flag evetns.

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According to the IRC, 700 civilians have been killed in three weeks. Don't you think that if Russia was DELIBERATELY targting civilians that the count would be much, much higher?

CAPON: Yeah, you're probably right. I mean only 700 civilian casualties can't be on purpose - gotta be an accident.

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And then, there is the strong possibility that the Ukie Nazis are hiding behind human shields and/or killing civilian hostages in false flag events

CAPON: Whoa! That escalated quickly! Nazis hiding behind women and children!

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CAPON: Great source. I mean, if it's in The Nigerian Voice... it must be true!

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CAPON: "Captured Russian pilot admits to bombing civilians, urges Russia to stop assault: 'We have already lost this war'"

A captured Russian pilot admitted to targeting Ukrainian civilians and urged Russia to call off the assault on Ukraine.

Lieutenant Colonel Krishtop Maxim Sergeevich was shot down on March 6

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and taken into custody by Ukrainian forces, Interfax Ukraine reported. At a press conference on Friday, Krishtop said he carried out three bombing missions, Newsweek reported. echoed without verification.

“In the process of completing the task, I realized that the target was not enemy military facilities, but residential buildings, peaceful people,” Krishtop said, per Newsweek. “But I carried out the criminal order.”

Putin initially said that his invasion of Ukraine would not target any civilians , but the offensive has since bombed multiple towns and cities , resulting in a massive refugee crisis and over 1,546 confirmed

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Ukrainian casualties.

Krishtop, who served as Russia’s Deputy Commander of the 47th Aviation Regiment, said he deployed FAB-500 bombs, which are 500 kg — or 1,100 lb — explosives frequently used by the Russian military. A recent video shows two Ukrainians carefully defusing a similar bomb in Chernihiv, a city in northern Ukraine.

“I recognize the enormity of the crimes committed by me,” Krishtop said, per Newsweek. “I want to ask forgiveness from the entire Ukrainian people for the misfortune that we brought them. I will do everything in my power to end this war as quickly as possible, and bring those responsible for this genocide of Ukrainians to justice.”

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According to the IRC, 700 civilians have been killed in three weeks. Don't you think that if Russia was DELIBERATELY targting civilians that the count would be much, much higher?

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Yeah, you're probably right. I mean only 700 civilian casualties can't be on purpose - gotta be an accident.

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And then, there is the strong possibility that the Ukie Nazis are hiding behind human shields and/or killing civilian hostages in false flag evetns.

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Whoa! That escalated quickly! Nazis hiding behind women and children!

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Great source. I mean, if it's in The Nigerian Voice... it must be true!

Funny how looking at that web site the bulk of the "coverage" (most likely rss feeds on autopilot) is all about Nigeria. Go figure. And then, bam! Suddenly something about Nazis in Ukraine! What? Seems so out of place, right? Almost like someone (not you) bought space so they could have an "article" to link to, to try and verify a certain pov.

Wait, I did find one other article that also must be true since it's in the Nigerian Voice:

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/306550/captured-russian-pilot-ad
mits-to-bombing-civilians-urges-ru.html

"Captured Russian pilot admits to bombing civilians, urges Russia to stop assault: 'We have already lost this war'"

A captured Russian pilot admitted to targeting Ukrainian civilians and urged Russia to call off the assault on Ukraine.

Lieutenant Colonel Krishtop Maxim Sergeevich was shot down on March 6 and taken into custody by Ukrainian forces, Interfax Ukraine reported. At a press conference on Friday, Krishtop said he carried out three bombing missions, Newsweek reported.

“In the process of completing the task, I realized that the target was not enemy military facilities, but residential buildings, peaceful people,” Krishtop said, per Newsweek. “But I carried out the criminal order.”

Putin initially said that his invasion of Ukraine would not target any civilians , but the offensive has since bombed multiple towns and cities , resulting in a massive refugee crisis and over 1,546 confirmed Ukrainian casualties.

Krishtop, who served as Russia’s Deputy Commander of the 47th Aviation Regiment, said he deployed FAB-500 bombs, which are 500 kg — or 1,100 lb — explosives frequently used by the Russian military. A recent video shows two Ukrainians carefully defusing a similar bomb in Chernihiv, a city in northern Ukraine.

“I recognize the enormity of the crimes committed by me,” Krishtop said, per Newsweek. “I want to ask forgiveness from the entire Ukrainian people for the misfortune that we brought them. I will do everything in my power to end this war as quickly as possible, and bring those responsible for this genocide of Ukrainians to justice.”

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THUGR: You kust have the memory of a goldfish! (which BTW is six seconds long.)

Are you claiming that you no longer remember the pictures of Ukie neo-Nazis that were all over the inet just a few years ago?

The fact that I pointed out, in the video that YOU recently posted about Crimea, the reference to, and videos of, "far right" Ukie groups and their torchlight parades?
The pictures of John McCain posing with Ukie Nazi leaders?
The Nazi salutes?

What do you do? Allow your memory to be wiped and reprogramed every night?

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Just when I thought people couldn't possibly get any stupider, you come along and post!

Well, I have more important thing to do than try to teach a goldfish to think.

In the meantime, the pictures SHOULD remind actual thinking people that there are, indeed, Nazis in Ukraine. Nothing "neo" about them, either.



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OTOH I'll stack my posts up against THUGR's or SHITHITTHEFAN's and GSTRING's any day. They've gotten to the point where they post NOTHING BUT personal attacks. When a forum gets to that point, it's dead already, and they killed it.

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Wrong and a lie - your incessant lying is part of what kills it... for you. Ironic, no? We spend so much time calling out your Bullshit. I guess that's your MO - just make noise and controversy. I half think you may be an inmate somewhere desperate for conversation. ANY KIND, the more contentious the better because you learned it keeps people coming back to point out your sh*t.

Just above - a complete lie, "They've gotten to the point where they post NOTHING BUT personal attacks. " That's a lie, an obvious weak one.

How can you defend that? Please try. Let's have a discussion on why you feel the need to lie so much. I'm all ears, it could be good therapy for you. We don't know who you are in real life so it could be cleansing. You might grow to the point where you can try and win a discussion through... better logic, a better argument, even being on the Right side of an issue.

Here's an example of Truth: When a forum gets to the point where people threaten others with legal action instead of better ideas and arguments, then it's dead. At least RWED. See? I didn't have to lie or make anything up about you or Kiki - it's just fact.

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Italian Newspaper Denies "Disinformation" Despite Publishing Completely Misleading Front-Page Photo
Saturday, Mar 19, 2022 - 05:10 AM

Authored by Paul Joseph Watson

Italian newspaper La Stampa has denied accusations it engaged in disinformation [propaganda] by publishing a front page photo of a Ukrainian ballistic missile strike on Donetsk while suggesting it had been carried out by Russia.

The daily news outlet promised readers coverage of Russian attacks in Kiev and Lvov alongside a headline that read “The Carnage”.



The headline was illustrated with an image of a man covering his face in grief as dead bodies lie around him along with lines about “traumatized children in Lvov” and “Kiev preparing for the final assault” by Russian troops.

The photograph actually showed the aftermath of a ballistic missile strike on Donetsk, the capital of a pro-Russian breakaway republic in eastern Ukraine, after it was hit by a tactical Tochka-U ballistic missile that was almost certainly launched by Ukraine.

Whoops!

However, editor-in-chief Massimo Giannini vehemently denied in an interview that the publication had deliberately misled readers.

“The thing that bothers me most and pains me a lot is that there are also some people here in Italy, some disgraced people of the web, who amplify this and call it a case of disinformation,” said Giannini.

“Where is the disinformation?” he asked.

How about right there on your front page, Massimo?

Imagine if a Russian newspaper had published emotive front page coverage of alleged Ukrainian attacks on pro-Russian rebel areas of the country and then illustrated it with images that actually showed Russian attacks on Kiev.

Critics would immediately denounce the publication for engaging in egregious disinformation, and they’d be right.

Apparently though, amidst the ideological clamor to support the “current thing,” only Russia engages in propaganda and disinformation.

NATO powers and western media outlets are complete saints!

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Of course: make shit up, publish misleading photos, blame Russia!

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Of course: make shit up, publish misleading photos, blame Russia!

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