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Wednesday, January 19, 2022 1:32 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: All of the coups and manufactured "color revolutions" were just spontaneous outpourings? Had nothing to do with the $5 BILLION that the USA spent in Ukraine pre-2014, and the constant flow of disinformation from our collective NGOs, and the security forces that we bribed, and the mercs that we hired? (Speaking of meddling in other nations' internal affairs.) Nah...If you're making extraordinary claims, you need proof, but not from sources that are Putin's people or repeating what Putin's people wrote for them. This is exactly the same as Signym's claim that the "West" (who is this "West"? ) promised that NATO would not expand. NATO didn't give such a promise to Russia. Neither did the "West". The promise only exists as propaganda written by Putin's people. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: All of the coups and manufactured "color revolutions" were just spontaneous outpourings? Had nothing to do with the $5 BILLION that the USA spent in Ukraine pre-2014, and the constant flow of disinformation from our collective NGOs, and the security forces that we bribed, and the mercs that we hired? (Speaking of meddling in other nations' internal affairs.) Nah...
Wednesday, January 19, 2022 1:52 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Wednesday, January 19, 2022 2:38 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You spew bullshit in every post with No EVIDENCE whatsoever, and YOU demand "proof"? That's rich, coming from a liar like you! #1 I posted a video of Nuland herself bragging about the $5 billion the USA spent on Ukraine per-2014. #2 And of course, a video of Nuland and Pyatt hand-selecting Ukraine's new (unelected) government (That's where "fuck the EU" comes from) #3 Pictures of John McCain associating with know Nazis. #4 Videos of the Nazi/fascist extremist wing of the Maidan burning buildings ... and the people in them burning alive... #5 a video of Biden bragging how he got the Chief Procurator fired by threatening to withhold aid, so that Burisma wouldn't be investigated #6 And of course, Hunter's infamous laptop, which was hushed up pre-election IMF's threat to Kiev: fight for eastern Ukraine, or die Shit, I've posted SO MUCH incontrovertible first-hand evidence, there is NO REASON for any of you to be this stupid, or this mendacious! But you're extremely good at erasing facts from your brain, aren't you, "goldfish memory"?
Wednesday, January 19, 2022 3:27 PM
THG
Wednesday, January 19, 2022 3:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You spew bullshit in every post with No EVIDENCE whatsoever, and YOU demand "proof"? That's rich, coming from a liar like you! #1 I posted a video of Nuland herself bragging about the $5 billion the USA spent on Ukraine per-2014. #2 And of course, a video of Nuland and Pyatt hand-selecting Ukraine's new (unelected) government (That's where "fuck the EU" comes from) #3 Pictures of John McCain associating with know Nazis. #4 Videos of the Nazi/fascist extremist wing of the Maidan burning buildings ... and the people in them burning alive... #5 a video of Biden bragging how he got the Chief Procurator fired by threatening to withhold aid, so that Burisma wouldn't be investigated #6 And of course, Hunter's infamous laptop, which was hushed up pre-election IMF's threat to Kiev: fight for eastern Ukraine, or die Shit, I've posted SO MUCH incontrovertible first-hand evidence, there is NO REASON for any of you to be this stupid, or this mendacious! But you're extremely good at erasing facts from your brain, aren't you, "goldfish memory"?How true is #1? Not at all true, Signym: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/19/facebook-posts/united-states-spent-5-billion-ukraine-anti-governm/ How true is #2? Well, it is a Russian intercept of a phone call, not video. It is really two Russians, sitting side by side in a studio, reading a script into microphones with the director being sure that the sound quality is excellent. Then Putin sends the fake out to the world as if it was Americans. You got faked out again, Signym. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957 How true is #3? Not true at all, Signym: https://fair.org/home/john-mccain-human-rights-ukrainian-nazi-photo-washington-post/ Signym wrote "Shit, I've posted SO MUCH incontrovertible first-hand evidence, there is NO REASON for any of you to be this stupid, or this mendacious!" You do NOT have "incontrovertible first-hand evidence", Signym. Do you have any proof that does NOT have Putin's fingerprints on it? I am not checking #4, #5, or #6 because after 3 strikes you are out, Signym. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Wednesday, January 19, 2022 7:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: WTF SECOND? Are you delusional?? Wait, don't answer that question. We already know you're a sociopathic liar. Nothing you post is worth even parsing.
Wednesday, January 19, 2022 7:45 PM
Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I saw you avatar and I scrolled right past.
Thursday, January 20, 2022 8:52 AM
Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:36 AM
Quote:In fact, there are only three countries in the world America hasn’t invaded or have never seen a U.S. military presence: Andorra, Bhutan, and Liechtenstein.
Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If there is an iron link between authoritarianism and war, then the USA must be the most authoritarian nation in the world, seeings as its invaded or destablized over a hundred in its brief history. Quote:In fact, there are only three countries in the world America hasn’t invaded or have never seen a U.S. military presence: Andorra, Bhutan, and Liechtenstein. https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-are-the-only-3-countries-america-hasnt-invaded/ You walked into THAT one, SECOND, by citing a piece of tripe that EVEN YOU know is stupid. (eg Vietnam being your big real-life example)
Thursday, January 20, 2022 11:20 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If there is an iron link between authoritarianism and war, then the USA must be the most authoritarian nation in the world, seeings as its invaded or destablized over a hundred in its brief history. Quote:In fact, there are only three countries in the world America hasn’t invaded or have never seen a U.S. military presence: Andorra, Bhutan, and Liechtenstein. https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-are-the-only-3-countries-america-hasnt-invaded/ You walked into THAT one, SECOND, by citing a piece of tripe that EVEN YOU know is stupid. (eg Vietnam being your big real-life example)Just a little hint, Signym, Americans wouldn't talk that way about America, but Russians would, especially when justifying an invasion of Ukraine. Also, Americans wouldn't use references to the Cuban Missile Crisis as a justification for invading Ukraine, but Russians do it all the time. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Thursday, January 20, 2022 1:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I saw you avatar and I scrolled right past. Whenever I see your avatar, I read every word because I admire how well you express yourself. Your clarity and conciseness is irreproachable, making it delightful when you post something. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Thursday, January 20, 2022 1:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If there is an iron link between authoritarianism and war, then the USA must be the most authoritarian nation in the world, seeings as its invaded or destablized over a hundred in its brief history. Quote:In fact, there are only three countries in the world America hasn’t invaded or have never seen a U.S. military presence: Andorra, Bhutan, and Liechtenstein. https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-are-the-only-3-countries-america-hasnt-invaded/ You walked into THAT one, SECOND, by citing a piece of tripe that EVEN YOU know is stupid. (eg Vietnam being your big real-life example)Just a little hint, Signym, Americans wouldn't talk that way about America, but Russians would, especially when justifying an invasion of Ukraine. Also, Americans wouldn't use references to the Cuban Missile Crisis as a justification for invading Ukraine, but Russians do it all the time. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two Are you saying that all of the antiwar protesters in the 60s and 70s were Russian? That everyone who was against Reagan's invasion of Grenada and his Iran-Contra scheme were Russian? That everyone who criticized GWB's invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq (on phony grounds) were Russian? That anyone who was against Obama's destruction of Libya was Russian? You pull that "Russian troll" CRAP everytime YOU step in it yourself. It's so fucking obvious, just review this thread. By now it's obvious that you're a sociopathic liar who will do and say ANYTHING to further your hatred of America and Americans. You discredit anything you post, simply by posting it.
Thursday, January 20, 2022 1:45 PM
Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:07 PM
Quote: Ukraine's President Admits 'Russian Invasion' Fears Driven By "Big Hype", Blames Media Thursday, Jan 20, 2022 - 11:35 AM Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is attempting to calm his population amid persisting and breathless international media reports that over 100,000 Russian troops are set for an "invasion" of Ukraine "at any point" - as the White House has been claiming. He gave a speech Wednesday toward that end, bluntly calling the current Russia-Ukraine standoff driven by "hype" while urging calm among the Ukrainian citizenry. "The risks have not just existed for a day, and they have not become bigger. The only thing that has become bigger is the hype around them," Zelensky said.
Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I forgive you your delusions, THUGR, bc you're too stupid to know any better, and couldn't tell the difference between a lie and the truth if it sat on your face. But SECOND is a known and deliberate sociopathic liar whose knee-jerk response is to call me a Russian troll every time I call him on his bullshit. HE EVEN APOLOGIZED TO ME FOR IT. I hate to throw the one honest deed he did back in his face, but I've re-posted his apology into my profile, along with the linky. which is RIGHT NEXT TO MY AVATAR. You might want to check it out. SECOND knows EXACTLY who I am, and every time he insinuates that I'm Russian, he's lying. (*And the fact tha he keeps on libeling me, KNOWING that he apologized for it and KNOWING that I posted his applogy, just shows you what a stone-cold liar he is. And how stupid and gullible he thinks YOU are.) So, what are you going to believe? His apology? Or his libel? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Thursday, January 20, 2022 4:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Are you saying that all of the antiwar protesters in the 60s and 70s were Russian? That everyone who was against Reagan's invasion of Grenada and his Iran-Contra scheme were Russian? That everyone who criticized GWB's invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq (on phony grounds) were Russian? That anyone who was against Obama's destruction of Libya was Russian? You pull that "Russian troll" CRAP everytime YOU step in it yourself. It's so fucking obvious, just review this thread. By now it's obvious that you're a sociopathic liar who will do and say ANYTHING to further your hatred of America and Americans. You discredit anything you post, simply by posting it.
Thursday, January 20, 2022 4:58 PM
Thursday, January 20, 2022 7:39 PM
Quote: originally posted by SIGNYM: Are you saying that all of the antiwar protesters in the 60s and 70s were Russian? That everyone who was against Reagan's invasion of Grenada and his Iran-Contra scheme were Russian? That everyone who criticized GWB's invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq (on phony grounds) were Russian? That anyone who was against Obama's destruction of Libya was Russian? You pull that "Russian troll" CRAP everytime YOU step in it yourself. It's so fucking obvious, just review this thread. By now it's obvious that you're a sociopathic liar who will do and say ANYTHING to further your hatred of America and Americans. You discredit anything you post, simply by posting it. SECOND: Where I lived, I never saw antiwar protestors.
Thursday, January 20, 2022 8:48 PM
Thursday, January 20, 2022 11:30 PM
Friday, January 21, 2022 2:25 AM
Friday, January 21, 2022 7:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Russia knows we're weak. Not because our President is an obvious husk of a man. Because that either A) Americans in general are so stupid and weak that they put a man like Biden* in office. OR B) (What actually happened) Americans allowed a rigged election that they know was rigged to take place to put a man like Biden* into office and didn't do anything about it. China's watching too. And the Jawas.
Friday, January 21, 2022 7:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh BTW, you might want to expand your circle. Yanno get out of Texas and get to know other people. You keep thinking that everything is like Texas, and that everyone who isn't a DNC Dem (and even a few who are) are all like rich Texas Republicans. They aren't. And. It isn't.
Friday, January 21, 2022 7:45 AM
Friday, January 21, 2022 7:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Russia knows we're weak. Not because our President is an obvious husk of a man. Because that either A) Americans in general are so stupid and weak that they put a man like Biden* in office. OR B) (What actually happened) Americans allowed a rigged election that they know was rigged to take place to put a man like Biden* into office and didn't do anything about it. China's watching too. And the Jawas. America is weak because a) Many Americans are stupid (like THUGR) and believe the propaganda spewed by the elites, who don't have America's interests at heart, and b) Many Americans are lazy and prefer the life of intellectual and physical flaccidity offered by the elites, who pretend that laziness on a national scale can continue forever, but mostly because c) Many Americans are cowardly, and seek the "protection" of being in the middle of the establishment/elite herd, instead of bucking the authorities and recognizing that there are hard choices to make and some of those choices take personal courage and sacrifice in order to get off a self-destructive path And then there is SECOND, who is a corrupted sociopath, who spews disinformation because it is in his interest to do so, because it makes him rich and keeps him getting richer.
Friday, January 21, 2022 8:49 AM
Quote:SIGNYM: Oh BTW, you might want to expand your circle. Yanno get out of Texas and get to know other people. You keep thinking that everything is like Texas, and that everyone who isn't a DNC Dem (and even a few who are) are all like rich Texas Republicans. They aren't. And. It isn't. SECOND: In Texas
Quote: SECOND ... blah blah blah .. I will be blunt. Some Democrats
Quote: SECOND: blah blah blah
Friday, January 21, 2022 9:08 AM
Quote:Iran, Russia, China To Hold Joint Naval Drills After Key Putin-Raisi Summit
Friday, January 21, 2022 9:14 AM
Friday, January 21, 2022 11:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Having a (D) after your name doesn't give you an automatic "righteous" card, and if you're a politician of EITHER party you are most likely a corrupt sleazeball who cheats on everything, including your family, your taxes, the truth and your promises. After all, look at Biden*, Harris, Pelosi, and Schumer.
Friday, January 21, 2022 1:41 PM
Friday, January 21, 2022 1:47 PM
Friday, January 21, 2022 2:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I leave the legitimacy of 2020 an open question. Because the widespread use of mail in ballots, impossible to verify their authenticity in many districts (cover envelopes were tossed) and widespread statistical anamolies in vote counts (eg hundreds of ballots nearly in a row all swinging the same way) I cannot discount the issue of vote COUNTING fraud. And since when do I trust "establishment" "authority" figures anyway to tell the truth when a) they have every motivation to lie ("cui bono") and b) have lied demonstrably in the past? Anyone who believes mainstream sources is as nutty as a Qanon follower. Anybody who "believes" ANYTHING is nutty. The only audit that was legit IMHO was Maricopa county AZ bc I followed the details of what they did. and it was as thorough as Hans Blix' WMD audit of Iraq.
Friday, January 21, 2022 3:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I leave the legitimacy of 2020 an open question. Because the widespread use of mail in ballots, impossible to verify their authenticity in many districts (cover envelopes were tossed) and widespread statistical anamolies in vote counts (eg hundreds of ballots nearly in a row all swinging the same way) I cannot discount the issue of vote COUNTING fraud. And since when do I trust "establishment" "authority" figures anyway to tell the truth when a) they have every motivation to lie ("cui bono") and b) have lied demonstrably in the past? Anyone who believes mainstream sources is as nutty as a Qanon follower. Anybody who "believes" ANYTHING is nutty. The only audit that was legit IMHO was Maricopa county AZ bc I followed the details of what they did. and it was as thorough as Hans Blix' WMD audit of Iraq.Who won in 2020? That is easily decided because the facts are very clear. It's an open-and-shut case. The wrong answer to 'Who won in 2020?' means you are crazy. Your answer, Signym, says you are insane. Congratulations! You've joined up with the majority of GOP voters and politicians! The Russian equivalent to 'Who won in 2020?' is 'Should Ukraine be invaded before it joins NATO?' The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, January 21, 2022 5:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: UNLIKE YOU I DEMAND EVIDENCE NOT BLATHER. That has saved me from a lot of critical errors, like with Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and the whole RUSSIA COLLUSION! hoax which fell apart faster than toilet paper in water. You should try it sometime! The results are NOT clear, only the blather is (on both sides). The ONLY credible audit was in Maricopa Co. If you have detailed reports of exact procedures and results of other audits, bring them forth. I doubt you can.
Friday, January 21, 2022 6:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: UNLIKE YOU I DEMAND EVIDENCE NOT BLATHER. That has saved me from a lot of critical errors, like with Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and the whole RUSSIA COLLUSION! hoax which fell apart faster than toilet paper in water. You should try it sometime! The results are NOT clear, only the blather is (on both sides). The ONLY credible audit was in Maricopa Co. If you have detailed reports of exact procedures and results of other audits, bring them forth. I doubt you can. SECOND: Signym, you and every Republican I know brags about their superiority.
Friday, January 21, 2022 7:16 PM
Friday, January 21, 2022 7:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You must be Republican then, because you're CONSTANTLY claiming how superior and important and moral you are and how shitty everyone else is!
Saturday, January 22, 2022 9:14 AM
Saturday, January 22, 2022 9:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Are you saying that all of the antiwar protesters in the 60s and 70s were Russian? That everyone who was against Reagan's invasion of Grenada and his Iran-Contra scheme were Russian? Quote:Second Putin is facing a binary choice. Invade versus Not. I am unconvinced Putin will make the superior choice from looking at other choices he has made in Ukraine. https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+shoots+down+dutch+plane
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Are you saying that all of the antiwar protesters in the 60s and 70s were Russian? That everyone who was against Reagan's invasion of Grenada and his Iran-Contra scheme were Russian?
Quote:Second Putin is facing a binary choice. Invade versus Not. I am unconvinced Putin will make the superior choice from looking at other choices he has made in Ukraine. https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+shoots+down+dutch+plane
Saturday, January 22, 2022 10:23 AM
Saturday, January 22, 2022 10:24 AM
Saturday, January 22, 2022 4:47 PM
Saturday, January 22, 2022 5:17 PM
Saturday, January 22, 2022 5:41 PM
Quote:If Russia invades Ukraine ...
Saturday, January 22, 2022 6:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:If Russia invades Ukraine ... It has absolutely zero, nada, zip, zilch, goose egg, to do with US security. And that's why I don't care. Why do you? Is it because you're so stuck on Putin you just can't help yourself?
Saturday, January 22, 2022 7:17 PM
Saturday, January 22, 2022 8:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Further, by putting their refusal in writing, the US and NATO would declare the collective security principle itself—specifically with respect to the US and NATO—to be null and void, meaning that if, for instance, the Bahamas, a sovereign nation since July 10, 1973, decides to reinforce its sovereignty by hosting a Russian missile battery pointed across the Gulf Stream at Miami and Fort Lauderdale, Florida, the US would have no say in the matter, and if the US did try to speak up, they’d get beat up with this very piece of paper they signed. “Do you feel threatened now?” the Russians would ask; “Well, maybe you should have thought of that when you threatened us by putting your missiles in Poland and Romania.”
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