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HR 1: Election Reform Bill
Sunday, June 13, 2021 7:32 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: HR 1 is DEAD. Even lefty shill "news" outfits are finally reporting the truth about that.
Sunday, June 13, 2021 10:13 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Sunday, June 13, 2021 11:23 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by second: No one should miss this Mark Meadows story. No one. In the final days of President Donald Trump’s time in office, his chief of staff sent five emails to the acting attorney general designed to pressure the nation’s top cop to investigate a series of ridiculous claims of election fraud in the 2020 election – among them that Italy had deployed technology that somehow switched votes from Trump to Joe Biden. No, that sentence above isn’t parody although it reads like it. It is fact – first reported by The New York Times on Saturday and then confirmed by CNN. That actually happened. In the United States of America. In 2021 (and in late 2020). What’s stunning to me is that this isn’t a bigger story. Consider, again, what we are talking about: The top aide to the President of the United States tried to get the head of the Department of Justice to launch investigations into appallingly ridiculous election fraud claims solely because the aforementioned President couldn’t (and can’t) accept that he lost the 2020 election. That these efforts came in the run-up to the violent insurrection at the US Capitol on January 6, which left more than 100 police officers injured and five people dead, make them all the more appalling. As Trump was publicly fomenting doubt in the election results – via a series of failed lawsuits and debunked conspiracy theories – his chief of staff was working privately to cajole the nation’s chief law enforcement official to resuscitate these fallacies in order to please Trump. Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, got it right when he said Meadows’ pressure campaign “underscores the depths of the White House’s efforts to co-opt the department and influence the electoral vote certification. This is a five alarm fire for our democracy.” Yes, it is! www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/politics/mark-meadows-trump-doj-italygate/index.html The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Monday, June 14, 2021 9:00 AM
Monday, June 14, 2021 5:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Trust me. They're not hiding in HIS house. He's a fan of the IDEA, but he doesn't practice it.
Monday, June 14, 2021 10:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Trust me. They're not hiding in HIS house. He's a fan of the IDEA, but he doesn't practice it. You mean he employs the people who own those houses?
Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:04 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Anyone who refers to Jan 6 as a "violence insurrection" discredits anything else they say.
Tuesday, June 15, 2021 9:01 AM
Tuesday, June 15, 2021 4:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: This thread is about the failed HR 1 bill, Trumptard.
Tuesday, June 15, 2021 10:15 PM
Tuesday, June 15, 2021 10:48 PM
Wednesday, June 16, 2021 1:33 AM
Tuesday, June 22, 2021 3:16 PM
Tuesday, June 22, 2021 3:25 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: 6ix, maybe you can post a linky. I just heard a clip on the Dan Bongino Radio Show. It might have been him actually doing the interviews on the street. In NYC, black adults were asked some questions. Reminded that liberals say black folk don't have ID, they were asked if they had ID. Reminded that liberals say black folk cannot find, locate, or get to a DMV, they were asked if they know where the DMV is or how to get there. Reminded that liberals say black folk cannot navigate the internet, the4y were asked if they knew how to access the internet. Pretty good stuff.
Wednesday, June 23, 2021 1:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: 6ix, maybe you can post a linky. I just heard a clip on the Dan Bongino Radio Show. It might have been him actually doing the interviews on the street. In NYC, black adults were asked some questions. Reminded that liberals say black folk don't have ID, they were asked if they had ID. Reminded that liberals say black folk cannot find, locate, or get to a DMV, they were asked if they know where the DMV is or how to get there. Reminded that liberals say black folk cannot navigate the internet, the4y were asked if they knew how to access the internet. Pretty good stuff.Didn't find it, but I found this one...
Quote: Brainwashed college "educated" white kids. RACIST AS FUCK. If I were black, THESE are the white people I'd have a problem with. They don't have any problem when I work with them.
Wednesday, June 23, 2021 8:47 AM
Wednesday, June 23, 2021 5:06 PM
Wednesday, June 23, 2021 7:22 PM
Wednesday, June 23, 2021 9:23 PM
Quote: Allowing early in-person voting beginning in 2025. Allowing unsigned or undated ballots to be corrected before 8:00 p.m. on Election Day. Giving counties the option to use secure mail-in ballot drop boxes during specific times at secure locations. Allowing mail-in ballots to be counted five days before an election. Current law allows the count to begin no earlier than 7:00 a.m. on Election Day. Requiring every voter to present a photo ID at the polls. Requiring signature verification for mail ballots. Eliminating the permanent mail-in voting list. Establishing a Bureau of Election Audits under the state Auditor General’s office. The newly-established bureau will have subpoena power and will regularly conduct election audits.
Wednesday, June 23, 2021 9:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: There are a number of voting reforms quietly making their way through the various state legislatures. I posted about Pennsylvania's in this thread,and this is what they propose; Quote: Allowing early in-person voting beginning in 2025. Allowing unsigned or undated ballots to be corrected before 8:00 p.m. on Election Day. Giving counties the option to use secure mail-in ballot drop boxes during specific times at secure locations. Allowing mail-in ballots to be counted five days before an election. Current law allows the count to begin no earlier than 7:00 a.m. on Election Day. Requiring every voter to present a photo ID at the polls. Requiring signature verification for mail ballots. Eliminating the permanent mail-in voting list. Establishing a Bureau of Election Audits under the state Auditor General’s office. The newly-established bureau will have subpoena power and will regularly conduct election audits. First of all, I'm aghast that they DIDN'T require signature verification with mail-in ballots! I mean ... WTF??? And establishing a "permanent" mail-in voting list??? What about when people move? Or die? And not having the mechanism and authority to audit elections, and therefore allowing elections to be un-auditable??? What the hell were they thinking? NO WONDER the PA vote was such a clusterfuck! But aside from that. my impression of their "reforms" is that the security and identification requirements around in-person voting are .STILL. stricter than around mail-in voting. If you're going to do mail-in voting, it should be just as secure and tight as in-person voting. Since in-person voting will reqire a picture ID (which is more certain than signature verification) and will have locked ballot boxes and therefore better Chain of Custody (as opposed to mailboxes and all of the handling that mail requires) mail-in vote security should be upgraded to be equivalent to in-person voting. Anyway, the reforms all seem to be heading in the direction of more/better voter ID.
Wednesday, June 23, 2021 9:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It's a perfect video. It's only a shame that it's got FOX branding on it. We could end all this voting ID law bullshit tomorrow in a world where CNN wasn't total shit and they ran it. But since it's on FOX News, half the country will never see it, and all those racist white college kids will just keep on being ignorant of facts. So fucking condescending.
Wednesday, June 23, 2021 11:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It's a perfect video. It's only a shame that it's got FOX branding on it. We could end all this voting ID law bullshit tomorrow in a world where CNN wasn't total shit and they ran it. But since it's on FOX News, half the country will never see it, and all those racist white college kids will just keep on being ignorant of facts. So fucking condescending. Have you not seen the ratings which show Fox has more viewers than all their competitors combined? Just because you are allergic to news does not mean everybody is.
Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:41 PM
Thursday, June 24, 2021 7:46 PM
Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:54 PM
Sunday, June 27, 2021 8:31 AM
Sunday, June 27, 2021 6:57 PM
Sunday, June 27, 2021 7:31 PM
Sunday, June 27, 2021 10:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The election was stolen. Mail-in fraud election was fraud. That's okay. Trump will be your President again in 3.5 more years. We'll survive this attempted coup. P.S. Imagine how much bitching and moaning you would be doing if the shoe was on the other foot, huh. 6 months later and you can't get Trump's name off your tongue. This is how adults behave, children.
Monday, June 28, 2021 4:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The election was stolen. Mail-in fraud election was fraud. That's okay. Trump will be your President again in 3.5 more years. We'll survive this attempted coup. P.S. Imagine how much bitching and moaning you would be doing if the shoe was on the other foot, huh. 6 months later and you can't get Trump's name off your tongue. This is how adults behave, children. You were amused when you saw this firefly episode. Would you be amused if Trump got kicked into an engine because of his nonstop mouth? It could happen. I bet there is a 50/50 chance that he will be murdered if he runs again and he senses the danger, which is why he won't be running. An even more likely bet, he dies from overeating or a stroke because he is a fat lying sack of shit with a bad temper and crazy to boot.
Monday, June 28, 2021 6:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: We know you'd love that. You couldn't stop talking about murdering him yourself. We've got it archived for you if you'd like to see it.
Monday, June 28, 2021 9:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: We know you'd love that. You couldn't stop talking about murdering him yourself. We've got it archived for you if you'd like to see it.I'll give you a Trumptard story: I told him that he'll be divorced once his wife finds out about his adultery. He threatens me with, "She won't unless you tell her," shaking with anger. She found out on her own and ended him with a gun. You Trumptards don't listen to reality and that habit doesn't serve you well. Trump is the most hated President in history. He knows that as a fact as solid as he cheated on all his wives. He also knows that Presidents get assassinated. That's why he either won't run again or he hires a food taster because he doesn't want to be poisoned by restaurant workers. I would love to hear stories about Trump, after his second or third food taster dies, refusing to eat anything except what comes out of a can that he opens for himself and microwaves. List of United States presidential assassination attempts and plots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots GOP tried to hide bad news about Trump’s popularity www.cnn.com/2021/05/12/opinions/gop-making-trump-look-good-dantonio/index.html The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, July 2, 2021 8:44 AM
Quote:Voting rights plaintiffs had filed suit against two Arizona laws: one says that a vote will not count if a voter goes to the wrong precinct and then, finding their name not in the poll books, fills out a provisional ballot. The other limits who can collect and return completed ballots, also known to opponents as ballot harvesting. The plaintiffs argued that the laws violated Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, which prohibits voting rules that have the effect of making it harder for minority voters to cast a ballot that will count.
Friday, July 2, 2021 1:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Not HR1, but the Supreme Court just put Biden* in its place again. 1. Don't go to the wrong precinct. It has never in the history of voting been easier to go online and find EXACTLY where you need to vote. 2. Contrary to popular white Liberal belief, yes... Black people do have internet connections. Everybody in America who wants the internet in 2021 has the internet in 2021 and has had it for many years. 3. Ballot harvesting should be considered one of the top ways to cheat by any rational person, and any Democrat arguing in favor of them should consider how poorly elections could turn out for them going forward if Republicans were to resign themselves to them as a new normal and end up better at cheating than the Democrats are.
Friday, July 2, 2021 2:09 PM
Friday, July 2, 2021 10:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Not HR1, but the Supreme Court just put Biden* in its place again. 1. Don't go to the wrong precinct. It has never in the history of voting been easier to go online and find EXACTLY where you need to vote. 2. Contrary to popular white Liberal belief, yes... Black people do have internet connections. Everybody in America who wants the internet in 2021 has the internet in 2021 and has had it for many years. 3. Ballot harvesting should be considered one of the top ways to cheat by any rational person, and any Democrat arguing in favor of them should consider how poorly elections could turn out for them going forward if Republicans were to resign themselves to them as a new normal and end up better at cheating than the Democrats are.It was the Navajos of Arizona, not Biden, who got kicked in the balls by the Supreme Court: Hardly anyone has a street address on the vast Navajo Nation.
Saturday, July 3, 2021 6:58 AM
Saturday, July 3, 2021 9:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: What's more, none of it matters. The actual effect of these rules on Black and Hispanic voter turnout turns out to be minuscule. It is a waste of time—maybe worse than just a waste of time—to yell and scream about these kinds of laws.
Quote:So why do we spend so much time protesting the stuff that doesn't matter (and is popular) and so little time protesting the stuff that does matter (and is unpopular)? It is a vast mystery.
Quote:And like I said, it's really starting to piss me off.
Quote:If democracy is truly at stake here, wouldn't it make sense to be at least a little smart about trying to save it?
Saturday, July 3, 2021 4:02 PM
Saturday, July 3, 2021 10:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: SCOTUS rules on Arizona Election Laws, effectively squashes Libtards, Fake Merritt Garland lawsuit in GA.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Glad at least one witter for Lefty shill media has a few neurons firing. I wish them all the luck in the world changing the minds of the Democrat voting morons they've been programming to think the other way for the last few decades. Racists.
Sunday, July 4, 2021 5:30 PM
Quote:Originally bot posted: Ed McBroom, a Republican Michigan state senator who chairs the Oversight Committee, released a report detailing his eight-month-long investigation into the legitimacy of the 2020 election: https://misenategopcdn.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/99/doccuments/20210623/SMPO_2020ElectionReport_2.pdf The stakes could hardly have been higher. Against a backdrop of confusion and suspicion and frightening civic friction—with Trump claiming he’d been cheated out of victory, and anecdotes about fraud coursing through every corner of the state—McBroom had led an exhaustive probe of Michigan’s electoral integrity. His committee interviewed scores of witnesses, subpoenaed and reviewed thousands of pages of documents, dissected the procedural mechanics of Michigan’s highly decentralized elections system, and scrutinized the most trafficked claims about corruption at the state’s ballot box in November. McBroom’s conclusion hit Lansing like a meteor: It was all a bunch of nonsense. “Our clear finding is that citizens should be confident the results represent the true results of the ballots cast by the people of Michigan,” McBroom wrote in the report. “There is no evidence presented at this time to prove either significant acts of fraud or that an organized, wide-scale effort to commit fraudulent activity was perpetrated in order to subvert the will of Michigan voters.” For good measure, McBroom added: “The Committee strongly recommends citizens use a critical eye and ear toward those who have pushed demonstrably false theories for their own personal gain.” This reflected a pattern throughout the report—a clear and clinical statement of facts, accompanied by more animated language that expressed disgust with the grifters selling deception to the masses and disappointment with the voters who were buying it. Sitting at his dinner table, I told the senator that his writing occasionally took a tone of anger. He smirked. “I don’t know that I ever wrote angry,” McBroom replied. “But I tried to leave no room for doubt.” So much for that. Soon after the report was released, Trump issued a thundering statement calling McBroom’s investigation “a cover up, and a method of getting out of a Forensic Audit for the examination of the Presidential contest.” The former president then published the office phone numbers for McBroom and Michigan’s GOP Senate majority leader, Mike Shirkey, urging his followers to “call those two Senators now and get them to do the right thing, or vote them the hell out of office!” McBroom had grown up a “history nerd.” He idolized the revolutionary Founders. He inhaled biographies of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Teddy Roosevelt. He revered the institution of the American presidency. And here was the 45th president, calling him out by name, accusing him of unthinkable treachery. “Surreal,” McBroom said quietly. He leaned back, running his hands through a mess of sweaty blond hair. Then he folded his thick arms, which bulged from a red cutoff button-up shirt, staring heavenward in search of the words. Some 30 seconds went by. “Just … surreal.” Perhaps trying to cheer himself, McBroom told me he doubted whether Trump had personally written that statement. He doubted even more whether Trump had actually read the report. (If he had, Trump would understand why an Arizona-style “forensic audit” would be pointless.) But this was cold comfort. In many ways, Trump was a stand-in for the constituents McBroom knew who insisted that the election was stolen, who raged against the scheming Democrats and the spineless Republicans, who believed that America was succumbing to an illegitimate leftist takeover. Most of them, McBroom realized, would not read the report, either. And he wasn’t sure what more he was supposed to do for them. “I can’t make people believe me,” McBroom said, an air of exasperation in his voice. “All I can hope is that people use their discernment and judgment, to look at the facts I’ve laid out for them, and then look at these theories out there, and ask the question: Does any of this make sense?”
Monday, July 5, 2021 8:37 PM
Tuesday, July 13, 2021 6:44 AM
Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:07 AM
Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: News is slow without Trump around. That story is 6 months old. Meanwhile, HR1 is dead. It was always dead.
Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: News is slow without Trump around. That story is 6 months old. Meanwhile, HR1 is dead. It was always dead.Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick is at the center of the story. Patrick, this very morning, is trying to pass a law that says if he doesn't like the results of an election, Patrick can fire the election officials and replace them with his loyal GOP minions. (Unsaid in the bill, but understood by all minions, is that the minions must declare the Republican the election winner.) The Democrats are blocking Patrick's law: Texas Democrats flee to D.C. to thwart Republican voting restriction bills https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Texas-Democrats-are-fleeing-to-D-C-today-to-16309101.php By the way, Patrick refuses to pay the million he promised, saying I don't have to pay if Trump doesn't have to pay (his taxes). The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, July 13, 2021 10:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Oh yeah? Show me specifically where the proposed law states any of what you just said. I won't hold my breath.
Wednesday, July 14, 2021 7:53 PM
Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:42 PM
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