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Mail Delays Fuel Concern Trump Is Undercutting Postal System Ahead of Voting

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Friday, August 14, 2020 10:28 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nothing has to do with Trump destroying the Post Office, because what goes on in that little dystpoian fantasy in your smoothbrain isn't real life.


But I figured since we're talking about politicians and bureaucrats racking in the big bucks for work they didn't do, we might as well add Pelosi to the list.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I suppose you can just ignore facts you don't like, but smart people don't.




You keep saying that dude, but I guaranty you that I've got more brains in the shit that I just flushed down the toilet than you have ever worked with in your life.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 15, 2020 11:48 AM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nothing has to do with Trump destroying the Post Office, because what goes on in that little dystpoian fantasy in your smoothbrain isn't real life.


But I figured since we're talking about politicians and bureaucrats racking in the big bucks for work they didn't do, we might as well add Pelosi to the list.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I suppose you can just ignore facts you don't like, but smart people don't.

That is demonstrably false. You're constantly wrong about everything, due to the tinfoil bullshit you think is news.


You keep saying that dude, but I guaranty you that I've got more brains in the shit that I just flushed down the toilet than you have ever worked with in your life.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Demonstrably false.

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Saturday, August 15, 2020 11:49 AM

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Saturday, August 15, 2020 11:56 AM

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Saturday, August 15, 2020 12:06 PM

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Trump’s Postal Service Chairman Has Led Senate GOP’s $100 Million Super PAC
Trump just installed a former RNC chair to lead the board that oversees USPS -- now the agency faces allegations that it is being used to rig the 2020 election.
https://sirota.substack.com/p/trumps-postal-service-chairman-has

In 2018 federal disclosure filings during his confirmation, Duncan listed himself as the current chairman of the Senate Leadership Fund -- a $100 million Senate-focused Republican super PAC whose 2020 electoral goals could hinge on vote-by-mail systems during the coronavirus pandemic. Duncan was listed as a director of the Senate Leadership Fund in an annual report the super PAC filed in Virginia in August 2019. CNN reported in January 2020 that the Republican effort to retain the Senate includes “McConnell's super PAC, the Senate Leadership Fund, which is helmed by Mike Duncan, the former RNC chairman and a Kentuckian.”

“Outside of government service, he served as Chairman of the Republican National Committee from 2007 to 2009,” Duncan’s official USPS biography notes. “As RNC Chairman, he raised an unprecedented $428 million and grew the donor base to 1.8 million -- more donors than at any time in RNC history.”

Hmm... No conflict of interest here...

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Saturday, August 15, 2020 12:09 PM

REAVERFAN


Postal Service plans to remove 671 high-volume mail processing machines
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/postal-service-plans-to-remove-671-h
igh-volume-mail-processing-machines-90079301991


An internal US Postal Service document obtained by NBC News reveals plans to remove 671 high-volume mail processing machines from postal facilities across the country. The document, circulated in June, is broken out by region and city/state.

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Saturday, August 15, 2020 12:13 PM

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How to protect your vote amid the Trump administration’s assault on the postal service
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/how-to-protect-your-vote-amid-the-tr
ump-administration-s-assault-on-the-postal-service-90115141581


There are things you can do to make sure that your ballot is counted — even as the Trump-appointed head of the postal service takes mail processing machines and street mailboxes out of commission, and the president tries to withhold funding to expand vote-by-mail. Here are some actions you can take right now, with fewer than 80 days to election day.

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Saturday, August 15, 2020 1:56 PM

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Jason Johnson, professional wrong person.

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Saturday, August 15, 2020 5:13 PM

REAVERFAN


Direct action gets the goods.

Protesters Stage ‘Wake-Up Call’ in Front of Postmaster General’s House
Taylor Swift joined those ripping President Trump’s handling of USPS on Saturday, saying he’s looking to “blatantly cheat”
https://www.thewrap.com/protesters-stage-wake-up-call-postmaster-gener
als-house
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Saturday, August 15, 2020 6:58 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nothing has to do with Trump destroying the Post Office, because what goes on in that little dystpoian fantasy in your smoothbrain isn't real life.


But I figured since we're talking about politicians and bureaucrats racking in the big bucks for work they didn't do, we might as well add Pelosi to the list.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I suppose you can just ignore facts you don't like, but smart people don't.

That is demonstrably false. You're constantly wrong about everything, due to the tinfoil bullshit you think is news.


You keep saying that dude, but I guaranty you that I've got more brains in the shit that I just flushed down the toilet than you have ever worked with in your life.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Demonstrably false.




Then what are you waiting for?

Everything you've posted today so far has proven my point.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:37 PM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Everything you've posted today so far has proven my point.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

The only point you have is on top of your empty head.

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Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:39 PM

REAVERFAN


Fox & Friends’ Will Cain attacks the United States Postal Service: “The postal service is not an efficient nor honestly a good service”
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-friends/fox-friends-will-cain-attacks
-united-states-postal-service-postal-service-not-efficient


He needs to stick to sports. He doesn't know jack about anything else.

The US Post Office is legendary for their efficiency. It is my preferred service, by far. It provides better service than UPS or FedEx.

Further, the post office is a necessary service. It is the ONLY service that guarantees mail delivery to everyone in the country. As to letter mail, it is one price to anywhere in the States.

The Republicans have been trying for years to destroy the post office, even though it is one of the few agencies mentioned in the constitution explicitly. Somebody tell the cabinet officers that most of their positions are not mentioned in the constitution, but the Postmaster General is.

The federal highways that crisscross the country are Post Roads. To the founding fathers the post office was exceedingly important. It still is.

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Sunday, August 16, 2020 7:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol @ literally any opinion you have about anything.

Waste of carbon.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 16, 2020 9:28 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol @ literally any opinion you have about anything.

Waste of carbon.

Waste of carbon says poor white trash 6ix. You are such a fucked up in the head dude, 6ix: Reports from NBC News, CNN, and the Washington Post indicate that 671 mail sorting machines are being taken offline under a new policy. NBC reports that, according to internal Postal Service documents it obtained, the new postmaster general appointed by Trump in May, Louis DeJoy, is the one responsible for the decommissioning initiative. And postal workers say the process of taking machines out of service under this initiative began in June.
www.vox.com/2020-presidential-election/2020/8/16/21370963/usps-postal-
service-mail-sorting-machines-trump-meadows-2020-election-ballots


The White House is denying everything, constantly, even while the mail sorting machines are being sent to the scrapyard. I'm thinking the lying sack of shit in the White House needs his face punched and his balls kicked.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, August 16, 2020 9:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Had to bring out your other personality to defend your Che Guevara one here?

Doesn't that get tiring?


At least when two idiots are sharing the same body and brain the carbon footprint they inflict on the planet while contributing nothing in return is cut in half.

So at least there's that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 16, 2020 10:11 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Had to bring out your other personality to defend your Che Guevara one here?

Doesn't that get tiring?


At least when two idiots are sharing the same body and brain the carbon footprint they inflict on the planet while contributing nothing in return is cut in half.

So at least there's that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows lied his head off in an interview on Sunday that the Post Office was not slowing down the mail and he dared the interviewer to prove he was a liar: “Get your producer to share where exactly those sorting machines were taken offline. Let them whisper in your ear, because what I’m telling you is you’re picking up on a narrative that’s not based on facts.” The producer got on the telephone and made some calls.

Later in the episode, after being updated by a producer, Tapper fulfilled Meadows’s request: He cited Chris Bentley, president of the National Postal Mail Handlers Union Local 297, which covers Kansas and part of Missouri, who told CNN that postal management “has already taken out four machines in Kansas City, two machines in Springfield, Missouri, and one machine in Wichita, Kansas, that is earlier this year — under this new postmaster general.”

www.vox.com/2020-presidential-election/2020/8/16/21370963/usps-postal-
service-mail-sorting-machines-trump-meadows-2020-election-ballots


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, August 16, 2020 10:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


LOL

Says dying media outlet Vox.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 17, 2020 5:30 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL

Says dying media outlet Vox.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Hey, Poor White Trash 6ix, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows lied about slowing down the mail and he was caught lying on camera:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1294998926333026317

What should have happened is that the interviewer hit Meadows on the kneecaps with a baseball bat to discourage further lying, but because of Covid-19 that was impossible since Meadows wasn't actually there and all American interviewers are cowards who won't fight back. Trump has always, and very successfully, depended on Americans being cowards that are easily talked into surrendering to his bullshit rather than striking back at him. Unlike Americans, Australian interviewers know how to handle him. Trump gets his ass kicked by an Aussie visiting the White House:
https://www.axios.com/full-axios-hbo-interview-donald-trump-cd5a67e1-6
ba1-46c8-bb3d-8717ab9f3cc5.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 17, 2020 8:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol @ poor white trash.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you hate yourself a little bit less, buddy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 17, 2020 9:33 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol @ poor white trash.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you hate yourself a little bit less, buddy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

140 days ago Trump said Republicans would ‘never’ be elected again if it was easier to vote. That is why Trump is slowing down the mail in August.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/trump-republican-party-voting-
reform-coronavirus


6ix, all the poor white trash I know have strong opinions against voting by mail for the same reason Trump does. They worry that too many Democrats will vote. These people with strong opinions also have hyper-inflated self-esteem issues, which doesn't work to their advantage when their imagined white superiority isn't being rewarded in life. Bitterness follows them to the grave. "Why oh why didn't the world treat me better?" should be engraved on their headstones. That's the idea jumping around the branches of their squirrelly brains during life. Why not in death?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 17, 2020 9:45 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol @ poor white trash.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you hate yourself a little bit less, buddy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

140 days ago Trump said Republicans would ‘never’ be elected again if it was easier to vote. That is why Trump is slowing down the mail in August.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/trump-republican-party-voting-
reform-coronavirus


6ix, all the poor white trash I know have strong opinions against voting by mail for the same reason Trump does. They worry that too many Democrats will vote. These people with strong opinions also have hyper-inflated self-esteem issues, which doesn't work to their advantage when their imagined white superiority isn't being rewarded in life. Bitterness follows them to the grave. "Why oh why didn't the world treat me better?" should be engraved on their headstones. That's the idea jumping around the branches of their squirrelly brains during life. Why not in death?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



And Hitler loved dogs, so all dog lovers are Nazis.

We get it bruh.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 17, 2020 10:02 AM

REAVERFAN


It would be so nice if 6ix had paid attention in school, instead of sneaking out to get shitfaced drunk.

Instead, he learned nothing and fried his wet brain. Can't do basic logic now. Sad.

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Monday, August 17, 2020 10:03 AM

REAVERFAN


Shake him off.


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Monday, August 17, 2020 10:06 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol nah.


Can't wait to laugh my ass off at your meltdown on November 4th.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 17, 2020 10:16 AM

REAVERFAN


Too bad your brain stopped working.


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Monday, August 17, 2020 10:19 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Too bad Democrats are blowing their load this early again.

2 weeks from now nobody is going to remember your little story.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 17, 2020 10:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Do try to have fun while selling out your "principals" when you cast your vote for the Biden/Harris ticket, Che.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 17, 2020 1:32 PM

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Monday, August 17, 2020 4:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Golly, a pile of useless linkys there (above). But I did find the much ballyhooed USPS document:

https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf


Background: USPS automation machines sort 3 types of mail: Letter Mail, Flats (manilla envelopes, sealed magazines, other packages greater than 8.5" x 11" but not thicker than an inch), and packages.
Letter mail has slowed since 9-11, and so has Flats. While package mail has grown in volume, and is highly competitive, and sought after by competitors - and USPS has had a habit of processing them at a loss of revenue - for decades.


It mentions 4 types of machines. AFCSs, which are actually AFCS-ISS machines, operated by Mail Handlers and Operate at peak efficiency at about 30,000/hr. They can crank their figures up to 34K, but anything over 30k is purely errors. There have not been any base model AFCSs in USPS in more than 10 years.
AFCS-ISS machines process letter mail only. Flats are culled out in the 2nd culling stage. Packages cannot fit in the machine, and if they enter the machine, are culled at the first point (if the machine didn't jam from them). By 2010 there were about 2,000 of these machines. For instance, in WI there were 8 in Milwaukee, 6 in Madison, 2 each in Green Bay, Eau Claire, LaCrosse, Wausau, Oshkosh, and 1 in Kingsford. Obama reduced those 8 sites down to 2 for the whole state, and those 25 machines down to about 14 remaining, because he eliminated the Mandate of Next Day Delivery.

The other 3 types of machines mentioned are operated by Clerks, members of the APWU.

DBCSs process solely Letter Mail, at a speed up to 43,000 for the older machines, but about 35-38,000 for the "new & better" versions. The older units often don't run at capacity because the Unionized Postal Workers are too lazy to do the work to allow the machines to function properly.
By 2010, there were about 10,000 DBCSs in USPS - not including several thousand DIOSS, a higher-functioning upgrade to the base DBCS (unlikely that any DIOSSs are being thrown out, nor any DBCS-OSSs.)
Milwaukee had 28, GB had 10.

One of these stories mentions that the 671 machines are about 10% of the current stable - meaning Obama has already cut them down to around 6,700 machines before Trump ever populated the White House.

The next 2 machines are humungus, and not very populous due to the smaller footprint desired by USPS facilities. Sites in WI could barely fit one inside, and often not that.
AFSMs and FSS process Flats mail. They are much, much slower than the letter machines. The flats are "injected" into the carousel at a rate of about 4-7 per second. IIRC 120 per minute was the fastest rate we got out if them, and that was cooking (there are mechanical limitations).

That USPS spokesman said that they were reallocating due to demand, and for years now they have been pointing out that Letters and Flats have been in decline, and now they are switching operations over to focus on package mail.

When time, I need to check the annual mail volume from 2001, and 2010, and 2016, and now. They usually report that stuff every year, along with the total number of unique addresses in the U.S.



https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf


This story mentions that 5 out of 20 DBCSs were removed, again in line with current trends, and a minor fraction of the machines that Obamination get rid of. But the largest Union in the world, APWU, needs to whine about something because their overtime is gone, thanks to Obama eliminating the Mandate of Next Day Delivery about 8-10 years ago.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/usps-states-delayed-m
ail-in-ballots/2020/08/14/64bf3c3c-dcc7-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html

This story accidentally leaves in some factual statements - which deflate the Libtard narrative.

Quote:


The ballot warnings, issued at the end of July from Thomas J. Marshall, general counsel and executive vice president of the Postal Service, and obtained through a records request by The Washington Post, were planned before the appointment of Louis DeJoy as postmaster general in early summer.

Some states anticipate 10 times the normal volume of election mail. Six states and D.C. received warnings that ballots could be delayed for a narrow set of voters. But the Postal Service gave 40 others — including the key battleground states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida — more-serious warnings that their long-standing deadlines for requesting, returning or counting ballots were “incongruous” with mail service and that voters who send ballots in close to those deadlines may become disenfranchised.

This is merely repeating the same warnings that have been in effect since Obama ended the Next Day Delivery Mandate, however Libtard Election Officials and Clerks have refused to update their information to the public (voter) after not needing to change it since...FOREVER! (before Obama)

This outlet should be castigated, tarred and feathered by the rest of Fake News, for inadvertently including factual statements in their story. Ashamed, they should be.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/320234/mail-volume-of-the-usps/
This site shows total Mail Volume has gone from 213.1 Billion in 2006 to 142.6 billion in 2019. That is including packages.


https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/first-class-mail-sinc
e-1926.htm

This site shows that First Class Mail Volumes went from 103,656 Million in 2001 to 77,592 million in 2010, and 54,943 in 2019.
One can see the big shift in type of mail from 1st Class to other types, like package - which is what the USPS has been saying for YEARS.

With Mail Volume at about half of wht it used to be, why should USPS keep the same number of machines? Is removal of only 10% of them really such a horror?
And in 2019 the non-First Class Mail was about 90 billion pieces, where it was 115 billion in 2006.

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Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:32 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


In June the independent website Factcheck.org made a dig at Joe Biden, publishing a post titled “Biden Floats Baseless Election Conspiracy.” Biden, you see, had suggested that Donald Trump “wants to cut off money for the post office so they cannot deliver mail-in ballots.” There was, said the post, no evidence that Trump’s “stance toward the U.S. postal system is related to the presidential election.”

A few days ago Factcheck.org conceded that Biden had, in fact, been right. The confirmation? Trump’s own statements.
www.factcheck.org/2020/08/trump-proves-biden-right-on-usps-funding-mai
l-in-ballots
/

Why does the Post Office need a bailout? Because by law the price of a first class stamp is set too low, lower than any other country:


https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/08/us-postal-rates-versus-
other-countries
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 18, 2020 4:38 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by second:
In June the independent website Factcheck.org made a dig at Joe Biden, publishing a post titled “Biden Floats Baseless Election Conspiracy.” Biden, you see, had suggested that Donald Trump “wants to cut off money for the post office so they cannot deliver mail-in ballots.” There was, said the post, no evidence that Trump’s “stance toward the U.S. postal system is related to the presidential election.”

A few days ago Factcheck.org conceded that Biden had, in fact, been right. The confirmation? Trump’s own statements.
www.factcheck.org/2020/08/trump-proves-biden-right-on-usps-funding-mai
l-in-ballots
/

Why does the Post Office need a bailout? Because by law the price of a first class stamp is set too low, lower than any other country:



Quote:


https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/08/us-postal-rates-versus-
other-countries
/

Have you looked at the volume of mail processed every year? If the postage had been 1 or 2 cents higher, there would have been no deficit for any year in the past several decades.

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Tuesday, August 18, 2020 4:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Golly, a pile of useless linkys there (above). But I did find the much ballyhooed USPS document:

https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf


Background: USPS automation machines sort 3 types of mail: Letter Mail, Flats (manilla envelopes, sealed magazines, other packages greater than 8.5" x 11" but not thicker than an inch), and packages.
Letter mail has slowed since 9-11, and so has Flats. While package mail has grown in volume, and is highly competitive, and sought after by competitors - and USPS has had a habit of processing them at a loss of revenue - for decades.


It mentions 4 types of machines. AFCSs, which are actually AFCS-ISS machines, operated by Mail Handlers and Operate at peak efficiency at about 30,000/hr. They can crank their figures up to 34K, but anything over 30k is purely errors. There have not been any base model AFCSs in USPS in more than 10 years.
AFCS-ISS machines process letter mail only. Flats are culled out in the 2nd culling stage. Packages cannot fit in the machine, and if they enter the machine, are culled at the first point (if the machine didn't jam from them). By 2010 there were about 2,000 of these machines. For instance, in WI there were 8 in Milwaukee, 6 in Madison, 2 each in Green Bay, Eau Claire, LaCrosse, Wausau, Oshkosh, and 1 in Kingsford. Obama reduced those 8 sites down to 2 for the whole state, and those 25 machines down to about 14 remaining, because he eliminated the Mandate of Next Day Delivery.

The other 3 types of machines mentioned are operated by Clerks, members of the APWU.

DBCSs process solely Letter Mail, at a speed up to 43,000 for the older machines, but about 35-38,000 for the "new & better" versions. The older units often don't run at capacity because the Unionized Postal Workers are too lazy to do the work to allow the machines to function properly.
By 2010, there were about 10,000 DBCSs in USPS - not including several thousand DIOSS, a higher-functioning upgrade to the base DBCS (unlikely that any DIOSSs are being thrown out, nor any DBCS-OSSs.)
Milwaukee had 28, GB had 10.

One of these stories mentions that the 671 machines are about 10% of the current stable - meaning Obama has already cut them down to around 6,700 machines before Trump ever populated the White House.

The next 2 machines are humungus, and not very populous due to the smaller footprint desired by USPS facilities. Sites in WI could barely fit one inside, and often not that.
AFSMs and FSS process Flats mail. They are much, much slower than the letter machines. The flats are "injected" into the carousel at a rate of about 4-7 per second. IIRC 120 per minute was the fastest rate we got out if them, and that was cooking (there are mechanical limitations).

That USPS spokesman said that they were reallocating due to demand, and for years now they have been pointing out that Letters and Flats have been in decline, and now they are switching operations over to focus on package mail.

When time, I need to check the annual mail volume from 2001, and 2010, and 2016, and now. They usually report that stuff every year, along with the total number of unique addresses in the U.S.



https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf


This story mentions that 5 out of 20 DBCSs were removed, again in line with current trends, and a minor fraction of the machines that Obamination get rid of. But the largest Union in the world, APWU, needs to whine about something because their overtime is gone, thanks to Obama eliminating the Mandate of Next Day Delivery about 8-10 years ago.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/usps-states-delayed-m
ail-in-ballots/2020/08/14/64bf3c3c-dcc7-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html

This story accidentally leaves in some factual statements - which deflate the Libtard narrative.

Quote:


The ballot warnings, issued at the end of July from Thomas J. Marshall, general counsel and executive vice president of the Postal Service, and obtained through a records request by The Washington Post, were planned before the appointment of Louis DeJoy as postmaster general in early summer.

Some states anticipate 10 times the normal volume of election mail. Six states and D.C. received warnings that ballots could be delayed for a narrow set of voters. But the Postal Service gave 40 others — including the key battleground states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida — more-serious warnings that their long-standing deadlines for requesting, returning or counting ballots were “incongruous” with mail service and that voters who send ballots in close to those deadlines may become disenfranchised.

This is merely repeating the same warnings that have been in effect since Obama ended the Next Day Delivery Mandate, however Libtard Election Officials and Clerks have refused to update their information to the public (voter) after not needing to change it since...FOREVER! (before Obama)

This outlet should be castigated, tarred and feathered by the rest of Fake News, for inadvertently including factual statements in their story. Ashamed, they should be.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/320234/mail-volume-of-the-usps/
This site shows total Mail Volume has gone from 213.1 Billion in 2006 to 142.6 billion in 2019. That is including packages.


https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/first-class-mail-sinc
e-1926.htm

This site shows that First Class Mail Volumes went from 103,656 Million in 2001 to 77,592 million in 2010, and 54,943 in 2019.
One can see the big shift in type of mail from 1st Class to other types, like package - which is what the USPS has been saying for YEARS.

With Mail Volume at about half of wht it used to be, why should USPS keep the same number of machines? Is removal of only 10% of them really such a horror?
And in 2019 the non-First Class Mail was about 90 billion pieces, where it was 115 billion in 2006.

I ran out of time to wrap up.

In 2019 First Class Volume was over 54 Billion pieces. That is, on average, a little over 1 Billion pieces PER WEEK.
So the Chicken Littles are whining about some 20 million ballots becoming overwhelming to the regular volume of 1 Billion. That is 0.02 Billion of ballots.
Does anybody in their right mind fall for this nonsense? Or do you listen to Fake Tapper with bated breath?


The Unions are claiming DeJoy was a competitor. But I see reporting that he was actually a CONTRACTOR with USPS. This means a collaborator, working in concert.
A Contractor is not a Competitor of USPS - but it is ass competitor of the UNIONIZED POSTAL "WORKERS" - which is the true revelation.

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Tuesday, August 18, 2020 5:56 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


We do know at this point that Biden’s earlier remarks that Trump “wants to cut off money for the post office so they cannot deliver mail-in ballots” have been confirmed — by the president himself.

In an Aug. 13 interview, Trump admitted that he opposes a coronavirus pandemic relief bill crafted by the House Democrats because it includes funding for the U.S. Postal Service and state election officials — funding that Trump said is needed to allow the Postal Service to handle an expected surge in mail-in voting.

The Trump interview is here
www.factcheck.org/2020/08/trump-proves-biden-right-on-usps-funding-mai
l-in-ballots
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 18, 2020 9:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Golly, a pile of useless linkys there (above). But I did find the much ballyhooed USPS document:

https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf


Background: USPS automation machines sort 3 types of mail: Letter Mail, Flats (manilla envelopes, sealed magazines, other packages greater than 8.5" x 11" but not thicker than an inch), and packages.
Letter mail has slowed since 9-11, and so has Flats. While package mail has grown in volume, and is highly competitive, and sought after by competitors - and USPS has had a habit of processing them at a loss of revenue - for decades.


It mentions 4 types of machines. AFCSs, which are actually AFCS-ISS machines, operated by Mail Handlers and Operate at peak efficiency at about 30,000/hr. They can crank their figures up to 34K, but anything over 30k is purely errors. There have not been any base model AFCSs in USPS in more than 10 years.
AFCS-ISS machines process letter mail only. Flats are culled out in the 2nd culling stage. Packages cannot fit in the machine, and if they enter the machine, are culled at the first point (if the machine didn't jam from them). By 2010 there were about 2,000 of these machines. For instance, in WI there were 8 in Milwaukee, 6 in Madison, 2 each in Green Bay, Eau Claire, LaCrosse, Wausau, Oshkosh, and 1 in Kingsford. Obama reduced those 8 sites down to 2 for the whole state, and those 25 machines down to about 14 remaining, because he eliminated the Mandate of Next Day Delivery.

The other 3 types of machines mentioned are operated by Clerks, members of the APWU.

DBCSs process solely Letter Mail, at a speed up to 43,000 for the older machines, but about 35-38,000 for the "new & better" versions. The older units often don't run at capacity because the Unionized Postal Workers are too lazy to do the work to allow the machines to function properly.
By 2010, there were about 10,000 DBCSs in USPS - not including several thousand DIOSS, a higher-functioning upgrade to the base DBCS (unlikely that any DIOSSs are being thrown out, nor any DBCS-OSSs.)
Milwaukee had 28, GB had 10.

One of these stories mentions that the 671 machines are about 10% of the current stable - meaning Obama has already cut them down to around 6,700 machines before Trump ever populated the White House.

The next 2 machines are humungus, and not very populous due to the smaller footprint desired by USPS facilities. Sites in WI could barely fit one inside, and often not that.
AFSMs and FSS process Flats mail. They are much, much slower than the letter machines. The flats are "injected" into the carousel at a rate of about 4-7 per second. IIRC 120 per minute was the fastest rate we got out if them, and that was cooking (there are mechanical limitations).

That USPS spokesman said that they were reallocating due to demand, and for years now they have been pointing out that Letters and Flats have been in decline, and now they are switching operations over to focus on package mail.

When time, I need to check the annual mail volume from 2001, and 2010, and 2016, and now. They usually report that stuff every year, along with the total number of unique addresses in the U.S.



https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf


This story mentions that 5 out of 20 DBCSs were removed, again in line with current trends, and a minor fraction of the machines that Obamination get rid of. But the largest Union in the world, APWU, needs to whine about something because their overtime is gone, thanks to Obama eliminating the Mandate of Next Day Delivery about 8-10 years ago.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/usps-states-delayed-m
ail-in-ballots/2020/08/14/64bf3c3c-dcc7-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html

This story accidentally leaves in some factual statements - which deflate the Libtard narrative.

Quote:


The ballot warnings, issued at the end of July from Thomas J. Marshall, general counsel and executive vice president of the Postal Service, and obtained through a records request by The Washington Post, were planned before the appointment of Louis DeJoy as postmaster general in early summer.

Some states anticipate 10 times the normal volume of election mail. Six states and D.C. received warnings that ballots could be delayed for a narrow set of voters. But the Postal Service gave 40 others — including the key battleground states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida — more-serious warnings that their long-standing deadlines for requesting, returning or counting ballots were “incongruous” with mail service and that voters who send ballots in close to those deadlines may become disenfranchised.

This is merely repeating the same warnings that have been in effect since Obama ended the Next Day Delivery Mandate, however Libtard Election Officials and Clerks have refused to update their information to the public (voter) after not needing to change it since...FOREVER! (before Obama)

This outlet should be castigated, tarred and feathered by the rest of Fake News, for inadvertently including factual statements in their story. Ashamed, they should be.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/320234/mail-volume-of-the-usps/
This site shows total Mail Volume has gone from 213.1 Billion in 2006 to 142.6 billion in 2019. That is including packages.


https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/first-class-mail-sinc
e-1926.htm

This site shows that First Class Mail Volumes went from 103,656 Million in 2001 to 77,592 million in 2010, and 54,943 in 2019.
One can see the big shift in type of mail from 1st Class to other types, like package - which is what the USPS has been saying for YEARS.

With Mail Volume at about half of wht it used to be, why should USPS keep the same number of machines? Is removal of only 10% of them really such a horror?
And in 2019 the non-First Class Mail was about 90 billion pieces, where it was 115 billion in 2006.

I ran out of time to wrap up.

In 2019 First Class Volume was over 54 Billion pieces. That is, on average, a little over 1 Billion pieces PER WEEK.
So the Chicken Littles are whining about some 20 million ballots becoming overwhelming to the regular volume of 1 Billion. That is 0.02 Billion of ballots.
Does anybody in their right mind fall for this nonsense? Or do you listen to Fake Tapper with bated breath?


The Unions are claiming DeJoy was a competitor. But I see reporting that he was actually a CONTRACTOR with USPS. This means a collaborator, working in concert.
A Contractor is not a Competitor of USPS - but it is ass competitor of the UNIONIZED POSTAL "WORKERS" - which is the true revelation.




More fake news bullshit.

That's all it is. That's all it EVER is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, August 18, 2020 9:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

More fake news bullshit.

That's all it is. That's all it EVER is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Unfortunately, Trump confirmed he is undercutting the Postal System specifically to win an election.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/trump-proves-biden-right-on-usps-fun
ding-mail-in-ballots
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 20, 2020 5:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Libtards Rejoice!!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/postmaster-general-dejoy-says-
he-will-stop-postal-service-changes-until-after-november-election/ar-BB186R0U?li=BBnb7Kz


PMG DeJoy calls halt to Obamination Administration best laid plans and schedule of gutting USPS and screwing Postal Workers.

Now all of the Union crazies can be thankful that Trump has their back, after Obama stabbed them in the back for all those years.

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Saturday, August 22, 2020 8:14 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Libtards Rejoice!!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/postmaster-general-dejoy-says-
he-will-stop-postal-service-changes-until-after-november-election/ar-BB186R0U?li=BBnb7Kz


PMG DeJoy calls halt to Obamination Administration best laid plans and schedule of gutting USPS and screwing Postal Workers.

Now all of the Union crazies can be thankful that Trump has their back, after Obama stabbed them in the back for all those years.



Yeah. Obama put DeJoy in charge. You Russian trolls are so funny. He lied his ass off.

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Saturday, August 22, 2020 8:17 AM

REAVERFAN


‘Flat-out lied’: Elizabeth Warren and a lot of other people sure think Louis DeJoy committed perjury
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/flat-out-lied-elizabeth-warren-and-a-
lot-of-other-people-sure-think-louis-dejoy-committed-perjury
/

Note to honest postal service employees: preserve all documents or other evidence that show that DeJoy was involved in ordering removal of mail sorting machines. Be a whistle blower. If he is lying under oath, he is subject to prosecution.

It will be a DeJoy to watch this evil, lying POS rot in prison for his treason.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ef8qYKQWoAAjB8U?format=jpg&name=360x360

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Saturday, August 22, 2020 8:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
‘Flat-out lied’: Elizabeth Warren and a lot of other people sure think Louis DeJoy committed perjury



How's Warren's new Pow Wow Chow 2 book coming along. Yanno, since that old white Karen is an American Indian.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:50 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Too bad Democrats are blowing their load this early again.

2 weeks from now nobody is going to remember your little story.


Still a big story.


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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:55 PM

REAVERFAN


When It Comes to the Truth of Opinion Columns, It’s Reader Beware
https://fair.org/home/when-it-comes-to-the-truth-of-opinion-columns-it
s-reader-beware
/

when it comes to political columns, sometimes there seem to be different standards applied to right-wing and left-wing writers.

Take an opinion piece published last week in the Washington Post (8/18/20) by Marc A. Thiessen, a former chief speechwriter for George W. Bush and fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, who writes a syndicated column twice weekly for the Post.

Headlined “Democrats’ Postal Conspiracy Is the Biggest Made-Up Controversy Since Russiagate,” Thiessen’s column declares that Democrats, by accusing President Trump of a “campaign to sabotage the election by manipulating the Postal Service to disenfranchise voters,” are engaging in “the biggest made-up controversy since Democrats accused Trump of conspiring with Vladimir Putin to steal the 2016 election.”

Putting aside the fact that, days later, the Republican-run Senate Intelligence Committee basically endorsed the Russia allegation, let’s parse his assertion that post office manipulation is a “made-up controversy.”

It is Trump, as the Post itself ably reported as early as August 12, who said that he wouldn’t approve any stimulus plan that included increased funding for the US Postal Service, after which he pointed out gloatingly that without those funds, the USPS would not be able to deliver mail-in ballots. The stimulus bill, Trump said, would enable “levels of voting that, if you ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again.”

But it gets worse. Thiessen went on to say that Democrats are falsely claiming that the new Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, who has given $2 million to Trump and the GOP since 2016, was appointed by Trump. In truth, Thiessen says, “He was appointed not by Trump but by the unanimous vote of the bipartisan Postal Service board of governors.”

That might sound fair enough to a casual reader. But a quick check of the USPS website, which a Washington Post factchecker could have easily made in minutes, shows that the six sitting members of that board of governors were all picked by Trump. They did indeed all vote unanimously, as Thiessen reported in his column, to confirm Trump’s nominee for thepostmaster general position, but they could hardly be called a bipartisan body.

Actually, Trump curiously allowed the USPS to have no members on its board of governors for much of his first year as president, and by this point, with only five more months left in a four-year term, he has only filled six of the nine available seats. That’s significant, since under the USPS’s rules of operation, it takes the vote of seven governors to remove a postmaster general.

These are all significant facts that give the lie to Thiessen’s assertions in his column.

As Thiessen’s column was being edited (to the extent that it was edited), three of the Post’s reporters—Tony Romm, Lisa Rein and Jacob Bogage—were working on a piece to run the following day, August 19, under the headline “Democrats, Election Watchdogs See ‘Glaring Hole’ in Postal Service Pledge to Roll Back Recent Changes” (8/19/20).

In that straight news article, the reporters report that cutbacks ordered by Postmaster General DeJoy eliminating overtime, removing blue mail drop boxes and removing sorting machines from mail sorting centers “have carried immediate, vast consequences, slowing down mail processing and delivery nationwide.” They add:

The delays have raised the specter of major headaches entering the 2020 election, as millions of Americans opt for mail-in ballots over their local polling places at a time when the deadly coronavirus is sweeping the country.

Thiessen’s column also ran in the Philadelphia Inquirer (8/20/20), under the headline “Democrats’ Postal Conspiracy Another Made-Up Controversy,” As an occasional opinion writer for the Inquirer myself, I note that my work there has always led to calls from a factchecker or editor at the paper. It would appear that no such effort is made with Thiessen, either at the Inquirer or at the Post, where he actually works.

Is that because the Inquirer just trusts the syndicator of the column to do the factchecking? Or is there simply a pass given to regular columnists, as opposed to outside contributors? It’s hard to say, because the Inquirer editors of the opinion and editorial page have not responded to multiple calls, messages and emails sent to the addresses listed on the paper’s website asking for an explanation.

The Washington Post also ignored calls and emails from FAIR seeking answers about its factual standards for columnists.

The issue of columns and truthfulness has become an issue of late, with the New York Times recently letting go editorial page editor James Bennet for not checking out an incendiary column he ran from Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) (FAIR.org, 7/11/20).

Perhaps papers like the Post and Inquirer, which run columns that are fact-challenged, should include a box warning readers that the articles they are reading may not be reliable, much like the warnings on cigarette packages.

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yanno what a lot of people are going to think?



SO WHAT? WHAT HAVE DEMOCRATS DONE FOR ME LATELY?


It's STILL the economy, stupid.

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So I stopped by to see how this thread is progressing. Just so you know, all of this whining is the DNC's attempt to deligitimize the election.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 3:19 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Yanno what a lot of people are going to think?



SO WHAT? WHAT HAVE DEMOCRATS DONE FOR ME LATELY?


It's STILL the economy, stupid.

The economy is the worst it's ever been thanks directly to Trump and his fellow crooks, the Republicans. The rich are riding high on all the free money they've been given.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/30/89671
4437/3-months-of-hell-u-s-economys-worst-quarter-ever


Obama saved the economy from Bush's failed presidency. Trump is trashing it with handouts to the rich causing record debt.

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:03 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Golly, a pile of useless linkys there (above). But I did find the much ballyhooed USPS document:

https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf


Background: USPS automation machines sort 3 types of mail: Letter Mail, Flats (manilla envelopes, sealed magazines, other packages greater than 8.5" x 11" but not thicker than an inch), and packages.
Letter mail has slowed since 9-11, and so has Flats. While package mail has grown in volume, and is highly competitive, and sought after by competitors - and USPS has had a habit of processing them at a loss of revenue - for decades.


It mentions 4 types of machines. AFCSs, which are actually AFCS-ISS machines, operated by Mail Handlers and Operate at peak efficiency at about 30,000/hr. They can crank their figures up to 34K, but anything over 30k is purely errors. There have not been any base model AFCSs in USPS in more than 10 years.
AFCS-ISS machines process letter mail only. Flats are culled out in the 2nd culling stage. Packages cannot fit in the machine, and if they enter the machine, are culled at the first point (if the machine didn't jam from them). By 2010 there were about 2,000 of these machines. For instance, in WI there were 8 in Milwaukee, 6 in Madison, 2 each in Green Bay, Eau Claire, LaCrosse, Wausau, Oshkosh, and 1 in Kingsford. Obama reduced those 8 sites down to 2 for the whole state, and those 25 machines down to about 14 remaining, because he eliminated the Mandate of Next Day Delivery.

The other 3 types of machines mentioned are operated by Clerks, members of the APWU.

DBCSs process solely Letter Mail, at a speed up to 43,000 for the older machines, but about 35-38,000 for the "new & better" versions. The older units often don't run at capacity because the Unionized Postal Workers are too lazy to do the work to allow the machines to function properly.
By 2010, there were about 10,000 DBCSs in USPS - not including several thousand DIOSS, a higher-functioning upgrade to the base DBCS (unlikely that any DIOSSs are being thrown out, nor any DBCS-OSSs.)
Milwaukee had 28, GB had 10.

One of these stories mentions that the 671 machines are about 10% of the current stable - meaning Obama has already cut them down to around 6,700 machines before Trump ever populated the White House.

The next 2 machines are humungus, and not very populous due to the smaller footprint desired by USPS facilities. Sites in WI could barely fit one inside, and often not that.
AFSMs and FSS process Flats mail. They are much, much slower than the letter machines. The flats are "injected" into the carousel at a rate of about 4-7 per second. IIRC 120 per minute was the fastest rate we got out if them, and that was cooking (there are mechanical limitations).

That USPS spokesman said that they were reallocating due to demand, and for years now they have been pointing out that Letters and Flats have been in decline, and now they are switching operations over to focus on package mail.

When time, I need to check the annual mail volume from 2001, and 2010, and 2016, and now. They usually report that stuff every year, along with the total number of unique addresses in the U.S.



https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf


This story mentions that 5 out of 20 DBCSs were removed, again in line with current trends, and a minor fraction of the machines that Obamination get rid of. But the largest Union in the world, APWU, needs to whine about something because their overtime is gone, thanks to Obama eliminating the Mandate of Next Day Delivery about 8-10 years ago.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/usps-states-delayed-m
ail-in-ballots/2020/08/14/64bf3c3c-dcc7-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html

This story accidentally leaves in some factual statements - which deflate the Libtard narrative.

Quote:


The ballot warnings, issued at the end of July from Thomas J. Marshall, general counsel and executive vice president of the Postal Service, and obtained through a records request by The Washington Post, were planned before the appointment of Louis DeJoy as postmaster general in early summer.

Some states anticipate 10 times the normal volume of election mail. Six states and D.C. received warnings that ballots could be delayed for a narrow set of voters. But the Postal Service gave 40 others — including the key battleground states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida — more-serious warnings that their long-standing deadlines for requesting, returning or counting ballots were “incongruous” with mail service and that voters who send ballots in close to those deadlines may become disenfranchised.

This is merely repeating the same warnings that have been in effect since Obama ended the Next Day Delivery Mandate, however Libtard Election Officials and Clerks have refused to update their information to the public (voter) after not needing to change it since...FOREVER! (before Obama)

This outlet should be castigated, tarred and feathered by the rest of Fake News, for inadvertently including factual statements in their story. Ashamed, they should be.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/320234/mail-volume-of-the-usps/
This site shows total Mail Volume has gone from 213.1 Billion in 2006 to 142.6 billion in 2019. That is including packages.


https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/first-class-mail-sinc
e-1926.htm

This site shows that First Class Mail Volumes went from 103,656 Million in 2001 to 77,592 million in 2010, and 54,943 in 2019.
One can see the big shift in type of mail from 1st Class to other types, like package - which is what the USPS has been saying for YEARS.

With Mail Volume at about half of wht it used to be, why should USPS keep the same number of machines? Is removal of only 10% of them really such a horror?
And in 2019 the non-First Class Mail was about 90 billion pieces, where it was 115 billion in 2006.

I realized that I did not fully explain some key differences which Obamination put in place.

With the Next Day Delivery Mandate:
Most normal Post Offices (Associate Offices) collected their mail during the day, and the truck picked up their mail around 5pm or later, to travel to the Processing & Distribution Center for their SCF (3-digit ZIP) and get cancelled by about 9pm each night. This meant there needed to be enough AFCSs to process all of the mail within about the timeframe 4pm-9pm. On Mondays an AFCS woiuld have acxtual Run Time of about 4 hours. Tues-Fri were about 3 Hours, and Sat was about 2 hours, even though it was spread out over more hours. Each day Preventative Maintenance needed to be performed on each AFCS, about 2-4 hours each day. This amounted to a weekly total of 18 hours of Run, 16 hours of PM, and 134 hours unused. Each of these machines garnered a bid job for the most senior of Mailhandlers, like with 30+ years of seniority.
With Obama deleting the Mandate, an AFCS can now run for about 140 hours and have about 30 hours of PM, thus performing the work of about 8 AFCSs when the Mandate continued to exist (that Mandate had always existed).
So now USPS needs 1/8 of the number of AFCSs to perform the same work, not including the fact that there is a fraction of that amount of work (mail volume) now.

Similar for the DBCSs. 12 hours of Run, about 2 hours of PM per day, making weekly totals of 84 hours of Run, 16 for PM, and 68 hours unused. After Mandate cancelled, 144 hours of Run and 24 hours of PM per week. This means now 2 DBCSs can do more than the volume per week that 3 used to do, not including the fact that there is now less total volume as before.

Also, the AFCSs ran on evening shift, and DBCSs ran both on evening and graveyard shift, and the Unions had generous Overtime and Shift Premium pays for non-daytime hours (so that is now reduced), and the most mail needed to be processed on Sundays, when there was a 25% pay premium - and now they can just shift Sunday work to any other day of the week.
All of this thanks to Obama, screwing the Unionized Postal Worker.

The AFSMs were just a complete hog of PM labor, like 6-10 hours each day, and they ran all of the time they were not in Maintenance Schedule.

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 7:17 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

KIKI: SO WHAT? WHAT HAVE DEMOCRATS DONE FOR ME LATELY?
It's STILL the economy, stupid.

REAVERBOT: The economy is the worst it's ever been thanks directly to Trump and his fellow crooks, the Republicans. The rich are riding high on all the free money they've been given.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/30/89671
4437/3-months-of-hell-u-s-economys-worst-quarter-ever


Obama saved the economy from Bush's failed presidency. Trump is trashing it with handouts to the rich causing record debt.

You have a serious misunderstanding about what happened, what is happening now, and what Obama did, and didn't, do.

First of all, you continue to misuse words because you don't understand what they mean. Just like you misuse the terms "fascism" and "Nazism" because you don't pay attention to their historical roots, you also don't understand the word "economy", and you conflate it with "finance".

The economy is the exchange of goods and service. Finacialism is "making money with money" through debt creation and speculation.

WHAT OBAMA SAVED WAS FINACIALISM. When the financial system locked up because subprime mortgages (bad debt) imploded, who did Obama save?
THE BANKS.
THE INSURANCES LIKE AIG THAT INSURED "INVESTMENT BANKS" LIKE GOLDMAN SACHS.

Trillions of dollars for the banks, not a single penny for homeowners, who lost their homes in record numbers due to fraudulent foreclosures. Remember "robo-signing"? NOT A SINGLE BANKER WENT TO JAIL FOR WRITING FRAUDULENT LOANS OR SELLING FRAUDULENT "INVESTMENT PRODUCTS".

Obama's "settlement" with the big banks was a slap-on-the-wrist-fine. That, BTW, is when I developed a permanent grotch against Kamala Harris: In order for Obama's "deal" to hold, it had to be accepted by all 50 States Attorney General. As State Atty General for California, one of the biggest centers of the real estate bubble, Kamala Harris could have pricked that settlement by refusing to accept it, but as a Democract corporatist quisling she rolled over instead.

The biggest, fastest, baddest widening of the "wealth gap" happened under Obama, as many of the middle class lost their biggest investment and source of wealth: Their homes. The jobs that were created under Obama were McJobs ... part time, low pay, gig-economy jobs that looked like life preservers to desperate people but which in reality could never support an adult life. That's why so many young people went to college (and are now saddled with unpaybale loans) and/or lived with mom and dad.

Occupy, anyone? (2013)

What has been happening since then is THE FED driving the continuing wealth gap by backstopping their member banks .. buying up their bad assets, loaning them money ... so that their member banks can continue to loan money, interest-free, to big corporations and extremely wealthy individuals who then use that money to speculate in stocks, bonds, and real estate.

NOBODY has saved the economy. In order to save THE ECONOMY you need to have real jobs and real production which means ... among other things... reindustrializing and (at least) maintaining our infrastructure, instead of letting it rot. That means bringing jobs back from China, India, Vietnam, or whatever barrel-bottom they sank to.

But those who make money on money are doing quite well, thank you.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:02 PM

REAVERFAN


I completely understand what the fascists are doing. Your Russian troll deflection doesn't change that.

Obama wasn't the progressive he pretended to be. Few Democrats are progressive.

BLAME OBAMA! LOL! I know you don't live here, so you really don't know what Bush put us through.

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Obama wasn't the progressive he pretended to be. Few Democrats are progressive.



We agree.

The facts are: democrats did nothing for the average worker during the Obama presidency; Hillary and the DNC were all about identity politics as long as you had the right identity; Pelosi as the single most visible representative of democrats in the last 4 years has made the democrats all about being anti-Donald; and the party platform of today is meaningless happy-talk without a commitment to identify and solve the causes of the average American's economic malady.

Democrats can't even pay decent lip service to ordinary Americans and their economic misfortunes.

No amount of Trump-demonizing is going to change the perception that democrats can't even pretend to address our economy that's failed everyday Americans.

x-posted to the 'for democrats' thread

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