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Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 2:20 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Why is anyone playing 'dueling Bible quotes' as if it was any different from the BhagavadGita or the Koran or the Brothers Grimm?

Sheesh.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:37 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Why is anyone playing 'dueling Bible quotes' as if it was any different from the BhagavadGita or the Koran or the Brothers Grimm?

Sheesh.

You didn't get the point that God acted like the Godfather when he decided to assassinate Moses, the Godfather's Lieutenant on Earth. God can't get less Holy:

Moses to Die on Mount Nebo (imagine Marlon Brando reading God's Words)

48 On that same day the Lord told Moses, 49 “Go up into the Abarim Range to Mount Nebo in Moab, across from Jericho, and view Canaan, the land I am giving the Israelites as their own possession. 50 There on the mountain that you have climbed you will die and be gathered to your people, just as your brother Aaron died on Mount Hor and was gathered to his people. 51 This is because both of you broke faith with me in the presence of the Israelites at the waters of Meribah Kadesh in the Desert of Zin and because you did not uphold my holiness among the Israelites. 52 Therefore, you will see the land only from a distance; you will not enter the land I am giving to the people of Israel.”
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+32&version=NIV

Moses gives a long speech saying goodby to the Israelites then he goes where the Godfather ordered. Godfather whacks Moses and dumps his body into an unmarked shallow grave. It is the perfect Mafioso ending:

5 And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said. 6 He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is.
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+34&version=NIV

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Did YOU know that Zeus was an SOB? No, really! It's true! The Greeks said so!


Why in Shiva's name should I care about what your religion says?

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Did YOU know that Zeus was an SOB? No, really! It's true! The Greeks said so!


Why in Shiva's name should I care about what your religion says?

I checked and Republicans believe in God. Unless you are a Russian Atheist Troll or RAT, 1kiki, you believe in the same God as Trump says he does and Trump's and your answer to 'Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?' must be false.

www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/party-affiliation/

www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/02/14/trump-mocks-faith-others-hi
s-own-religious-practices-remain-opaque
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:28 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So in your view, SECOND, one either believes in God or one is a Russian?

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
So in your view, SECOND, one either believes in God or one is a Russian?

Or one is a RAT (Russian Atheist Troll). Trump believes in God, he says, but he says a lot of things, doesn't he? And not many things he says are true: Fauci’s Senate testimony debunked a number of Trump’s favorite coronavirus lies. Fauci didn’t even say Trump’s name. He didn’t have to.
www.vox.com/2020/5/12/21256178/fauci-senate-coronavirus-testimony-trum
p-talking-points


God Help Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:09 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Except I'm a democrat, SECOND.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:09 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Did YOU know that Zeus was an SOB? No, really! It's true! The Greeks said so!


Why in Shiva's name should I care about what your religion says?

I checked and Republicans believe in God. Unless you are a Russian Atheist Troll or RAT, 1kiki, you believe in the same God as Trump says he does and Trump's and your answer to 'Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?' must be false.

www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/party-affiliation/

www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/02/14/trump-mocks-faith-others-hi
s-own-religious-practices-remain-opaque
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:10 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
So in your view, SECOND, one either believes in God or one is a Russian?

Or one is a RAT (Russian Atheist Troll). Trump believes in God, he says, but he says a lot of things, doesn't he? And not many things he says are true: Fauci’s Senate testimony debunked a number of Trump’s favorite coronavirus lies. Fauci didn’t even say Trump’s name. He didn’t have to.
www.vox.com/2020/5/12/21256178/fauci-senate-coronavirus-testimony-trum
p-talking-points


God Help Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:11 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Even THUGGER is too smart to keep going on about Russian Trolls™.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:40 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM: So in your view, SECOND, one either believes in God or one is a Russian?

SECOND: Or one is a RAT (Russian Atheist Troll).

Wow, I don't know what country you live in, SECOND, but here in the USA atheists are reliably Democrats and Obama-voters.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/02/23/u-s-religious-groups-
and-their-political-leanings
/

If I had to take a guess as to where YOU live, SECOND, it would the your State of Mind, because you don't seem to belong to the real world.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:35 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Except I'm a democrat, SECOND.

Now you are a Democrat? 1kiki, you have amnesia. You can’t even remember your name:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Sorry, no. I did briefly look through a few old threads to see if I could find my original name, but after over an hour, I gave up. At the time I didn't have regular access to a computer, so I didn't post that often. I think I'd have to search a lot of threads, and without a name my posts would take more time to find than I'm willing to devote.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63333&mid=10896
88#1089688


1kiki, your mission is to troll.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:27 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Here's a question for you, SECOND? what does your trolling have to do with the topic "Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?"?

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:29 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Did YOU know that Zeus was an SOB? No, really! It's true! The Greeks said so!


Why in Shiva's name should I care about what your religion says?

I checked and Republicans believe in God. Unless you are a Russian Atheist Troll or RAT, 1kiki, you believe in the same God as Trump says he does and Trump's and your answer to 'Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?' must be false.

www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/party-affiliation/

www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/02/14/trump-mocks-faith-others-hi
s-own-religious-practices-remain-opaque
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:30 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Here's a question for you, SECOND? what does your trolling have to do with the topic "Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?"?

If God exists, why doesn’t God get involved in politics?

If God exists, why did God not send into early retirement Chairman Mao Zedong, who was grossly inadequate at his job, and let Deng Xiaoping, who actually was competent, run China? Mao killed more people with his incompetence than Covid-19 will kill. God, with the tiniest nudge, could have toppled Mao, saving many Chinese lives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#Death_and_aftermath

‘Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?’ is replaceable with ‘Does Mao disprove the existence of God?’ or ‘Does Trump disprove the existence of God?’

If God exists, why does God not send into early retirement Trump, who is grossly inadequate at his job, and let Mike Pence, who actually is competent, run America? Trump will kill more Americans with his incompetence than Covid-19 would kill if there was a competent President. God, with the tiniest nudge, could topple Trump, saving many American lives.
www.theweek.co.uk/95082/donald-trump-s-weird-eating-habits

Americans don’t have a functional president, but we have someone playing a dysfunctional president on TV, and he’s keeping other leaders from successfully doing their jobs. 60 days into the coronavirus crisis, the White House does not have a plan, a framework, a philosophy, or a goal.
www.vox.com/2020/5/13/21255221/trump-coronavirus-plan-covid-reopening-
lockdown-liberate



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:34 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

1kiki, your mission is to troll.
Here's a question for you, SECOND? What does your trolling have to do with the topic "Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?"?

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Americans have not had a functional President for decades. Our Presidents only function to serve the wealthy, not the rest of us.

KIKI, SECOND is a deluded. SECOND lies and spews bullshit endlessly and is not worthy of discussion because SECOND is pathologically obssessed. SECOND is like Captain Ahab; try not to get drawn into his obssession, which has taken over his mind and clouded his thinking (such as it is).

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:53 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

1kiki, your mission is to troll.
Here's a question for you, SECOND? What does your trolling have to do with the topic "Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?"?

1kiki, you are repeating yourself from only a hour ago. Are you cutting and pasting because that is all you can do? Don't kid yourself that you are functioning. It is obvious that you and Trump have got mental disorders. See a specialist.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:57 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Americans have not had a functional President for decades. Our Presidents only function to serve the wealthy, not the rest of us.

KIKI, SECOND is a deluded. SECOND lies and spews bullshit endlessly and is not worthy of discussion because SECOND is pathologically obssessed. SECOND is like Captain Ahab; try not to get drawn into his mental disorder, which has taken over his mind and clouded his thinking (such as it is).

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:58 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Americans have not had a functional President for decades. Our Presidents only function to serve the wealthy, not the rest of us.

KIKI, SECOND is a deluded. SECOND lies and spews bullshit endlessly and is not worthy of discussion because SECOND is pathologically obssessed.

Lies and bullshit are Trump's technique. (And Signym's) He accuses others of doing what he does. During a Pandemic, Trump’s ‘Bullshit’ will be deadly.
The president cannot recognize, much less deal with, reality.
www.thenation.com/article/society/trump-bullshit-coronavirus/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Lies and bullshit are Trump's technique. And SECOND's. And the deep state's. And the M$M's. They accuse others of doing what they do. The president, the deep state, the M$M, and SECOND, cannot recognize, much less deal with, reality.
FIFY

SECOND can't even deal with a movie script that doesn't end the way he wanted it to.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Lies and bullshit are Trump's technique. And SECOND's. And the deep state's. And the M$M's. They accuse others of doing what they do. The president, the deep state, the M$M, and SECOND, cannot recognize, much less deal with, reality.
FIFY

SECOND can't even deal with a movie script that doesn't end the way he wanted it to.

Anyone who gave Trump’s (or Signym's) statements a millisecond of thought would know that he makes up stories on the spot. But here’s the rub: According to Baker, the Times‘ chief White House correspondent, thinking is not part of his job. As he explained recently, “I never make up my mind…that one candidate is better than another, that one side is right and the other wrong.” He may as well have issued an embossed invitation to politicians to lie to him.

But again, the problem here—whether it’s the Times or the countless institutions for which it defines journalistic standards—goes beyond purposeful gullibility toward a pathological liar, served up in the guise of accountability journalism. It is that the media reports Trump’s words in a manner that intentionally obscures his obvious ignorance. Referring to the president’s bizarro March 2 meeting with members of the pharmaceutical industry, Baker and his colleague Michael Crowley wrote that “Mr. Trump has made himself the primary source of information to the public with mixed results. Appearing before cameras sometimes multiple times a day to talk about the coronavirus, he has offered a consistently rosier assessment of the situation than health experts and has put forth unproven or even false assertions.” This is strong language for the Times, but it nevertheless fails to convey that the president kept repeating one harebrained statement after another, even after they were repeatedly corrected on camera.

www.thenation.com/article/society/trump-bullshit-coronavirus/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:13 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

1kiki, your mission is to troll.
Here's a question for you, SECOND. What does your trolling have to do with the topic "Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?"?

Maybe you can actually answer the question this (third) time.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:53 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

1kiki, your mission is to troll.
Here's a question for you, SECOND? What does your trolling have to do with the topic "Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?"?

Maybe you can actually answer the question this time.

I answered you, but you are too articulate yet too stupid to understand. I bet that combination has gotten you in trouble many times when you ran your mouth to the wrong people. God couldn't stop you from talking, but maybe God is protecting you from me. I've been waiting years for you keep your promises to sue me for libel. Maybe God stepped in, gave you a twinge of fear, because if you do sue, your problems will multiply out of control. Make my day, 1kiki. Immolate yourself in court.

‘I don’t hate Donald, I hate you’ — Howard Stern, a longtime Trump friend, blasts those who voted for him. “I hate you for voting for him, for not having intelligence. For not being able to see what’s going on with the coronavirus, for not being able to see what the Justice Department is doing. I hate you, I don’t want you here.”

Stern went on to say that Trump would be “disgusted” by the MAGA crew. “Go to Mar-a-Lago, see if there is any people who look like you,” he said. “The oddity in all of this is the people Trump despises most, love him the most.”

His advice to Trump? Do the right thing.

“I do think it would be extremely patriotic of Donald to say, ‘I’m in over my head and I don’t want to be president anymore,’” he said, while acknowledging that is not likely to happen. Stern, who has had the president on his show many times over his storied career in broadcasting, has long held the contention that Trump never wanted to actually win the election.

“I don’t think it was serious. I don’t think he wanted to be the president. I knew him. He had a great life at Mar-a-Lago.”

www.marketwatch.com/story/i-dont-hate-donald-i-hate-you-howard-stern-a
-longtime-trump-friend-blasts-those-who-voted-for-him-2020-05-13


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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

1kiki, your mission is to troll.
Here's a question for you, SECOND. What does your trolling have to do with the topic "Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?"?

Maybe you can actually answer the question this (fourth) time.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:10 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?"

There are a lot more things more horrific that have happened to us humans than Coivd-19, as far as I'm concerned - like for example, the Black Death. So I don't know why one would pick this particular example.

But in general, I think the question boils down to belief. On the face of it, if a god has, as we're taught to believe, us humans lovingly in mind, then COVID-19 makes no sense. Even further, the suffering and death of infants who never did anything bad to anybody makes even less sense. Or, if you believe in reincarnation, and suffering and death are just rewards for a previous life, then how do you explain all the many extra lives on the planet? Sooner or later, you have to invoke belief to erase the many conundrums you encounter in any religion. (I exempt the Tao, because it doesn't have a god(s) and requires no beliefs to countervail experience, which makes it imo a philosophy.)

As for me, personally, when I thought about it as a pre-teen, I pretty quickly realized that there was no way to prove or disprove the existence of her/ him/ it/ them. So I have no opinion about the actual existence of god(s).

But when it comes to religion, they ALL promise to be The ONE & ONLY REAL DEAL© (accept no substitutions!), with eternal damnation for everyone else. And I rankled at the idea that salvation could be so arbitrary as to condemn virtually the entire human race for the sin of being born in the wrong time, at the wrong place. As proposed by religions, salvation is a roulette wheel, except the chances of winning are infinitesimally small.

As I got older, I also realized that every religion claims that god(s) is unknowable, and then has the gall to tell you exactly what god wants from you, because - somehow - they know the unknowable mind of god. To me, that made the religion hucksters about as honest as card sharks.

That's not to say that I haven't known honorable people who're deeply religious. And they include Christians, Muslims, and Hindus, as well as some Confucians. But they were the ones who quietly tried to live the precepts in their hearts and actions, not the loudmouthed charlatans. One might call those honorable people the publicans.

My opinion, of course.

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Are you even familiar with a book called The Bible?
There's shit that happened in there that makes The Coomph look like a stubbed toe.




Figures PizzaGate brain would compare parting the red sea with a virus. Keep swinging, genius. You can't compare a work of science fiction with real life. Other than for contrasts and differences.



Are you mental?

Even an ignorant moron like yourself surely has heard of the Noah's Arc story. When The Coomph kills 99.99% of everybody and every animal on the planet except for 2 of each, get back to me.

Job was great read too. When Satan goaded God into killing his most devout worshipers' entire family after destroying his livelihood just to prove that it's when a man has everything taken away from him that his faith is the strongest.
You should probably understand at least the basic fundamentals of a God that you are trashing before you open your mouth. The Coomph doesn't have shit on other crap God pulled in the Bible.




What, you believe those really happened? Like I said... science fiction v real life... people who believed Pizzagate would believe the Bible was real.





No.

You said this:

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Figures PizzaGate brain would compare parting the red sea with a virus.


I wasn't comparing the parting of the red sea with a virus. You're either unintentionally or purposefully missing my point.

My point is that this little cold that has you shitting yourself is laughable in the face of stories in a book that people have been reading for thousands of years. Stories such as Noah's Arc about the absolute decimation of the world as well as stories such as Job that show God to be petty and willing to ruin the life of one of his most devout followers by destroying his livelihood before killing everyone he loved just to prove to Satan that when a man has nothing left he's even more inclined to follow.


I'm not a believer. I don't believe that any of the stories in the Bible are real. They are fables that teach moral lessons, not too dissimilar from fairy tales pre-Disney bastardization.



However, your OP title and question is stupid.

Given the content that people have already been reading for thousands of years in the Bible stacked against this not-at-all-scary virus out there, The Coomph would never disprove the existence of God. Certainly not in the minds of those who already believe and love him despite the horrible things in that book.


Look at yourself and realize that your Atheism is a religion onto itself. It takes just as much faith to believe that there is not a higher power as it takes to believe that there is.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 9:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
"Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?" . . .

As for me, personally, when I thought about it as a pre-teen, I pretty quickly realized that there was no way to prove or disprove the existence of her/ him/ it/ them. So I have no opinion about the actual existence of god(s).

There is a way to prove it, 1kiki, but you started being wrong early in life and never stopped. Into the 20th Century, physicists were denying the existence of the atom even though chemists were not. The reason one denied and other did not? It is a long history.
www.encyclopedia.com/science/science-magazines/historic-dispute-are-at
oms-real


The existence of atoms was denied until there was a sudden flip-flop in belief. Now almost the entire world believes based on the say-so of a few actual scientists. The same is possible with the existence of God. God won't have to do more than atoms did to prove they exist and the change in belief won't depend on what a few experimental scientists have documented. What would that proof be? Some examples:

“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
— Donald Trump

If Covid-19 disappears, that is proof God exists.

“I resign. Mike Pence is now President.”
— Donald Trump

That is proof God exists.

Quotes that suggest Trump is passively leaving his work to be done by God’s hands are in the article: ‘It’s going to disappear’: Trump’s changing tone on coronavirus
www.politico.com/news/2020/03/17/how-trump-shifted-his-tone-on-coronav
irus-134246

For weeks, the president downplayed the threat of a global pandemic even as others warned otherwise.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 9:29 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Look at yourself and realize that your Atheism is a religion onto itself. It takes just as much faith to believe that there is not a higher power as it takes to believe that there is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, it takes no effort, no faith, no nothing to disbelieve in a Hollow Earth. Hollow Earth is on the same mental plane of existence as God.
www.wired.com/2014/07/fantastically-wrong-hollow-earth/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Earth

It takes no effort, no faith, no nothing to disbelieve in Trump, yet some are 100% certain he will be reelected.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:45 PM

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There is a way to prove it
Then prove it.

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:21 PM

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Quote:

SECOND:There is a way to prove it.

KIKI: Then prove it.

Just, yanno, to add to the challenge.
I was going to go into a whole long disquisition about hypothesis testing and repeatability, but that would be way beyond SECOND's mental capacity and this challenge is more at SECOND's level.

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Friday, May 15, 2020 5:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Look at yourself and realize that your Atheism is a religion onto itself. It takes just as much faith to believe that there is not a higher power as it takes to believe that there is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, it takes no effort, no faith, no nothing to disbelieve in a Hollow Earth. Hollow Earth is on the same mental plane of existence as God.
www.wired.com/2014/07/fantastically-wrong-hollow-earth/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Earth

It takes no effort, no faith, no nothing to disbelieve in Trump, yet some are 100% certain he will be reelected.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Since you haven't and will never disprove the existence of God, I'm wondering then if your mind will at least be open to the possibility that he exists when I'm right (again) and Trump wins (again).


Keep in mind that last time I was the only person here saying that he was going to win, and you didn't find too many in the actual real world who thought so.

A lot has changed.

I made that prediction back when I was piss drunk 24/7.

I'm also hardly alone when making that prediction again for November.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, May 15, 2020 6:18 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Look at yourself and realize that your Atheism is a religion onto itself. It takes just as much faith to believe that there is not a higher power as it takes to believe that there is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, it takes no effort, no faith, no nothing to disbelieve in a Hollow Earth. Hollow Earth is on the same mental plane of existence as God.
www.wired.com/2014/07/fantastically-wrong-hollow-earth/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Earth

It takes no effort, no faith, no nothing to disbelieve in Trump, yet some are 100% certain he will be reelected.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Since you haven't and will never disprove the existence of God, I'm wondering then if your mind will at least be open to the possibility that he exists when I'm right (again) and Trump wins (again).


Keep in mind that last time I was the only person here saying that he was going to win, and you didn't find too many in the actual real world who thought so.

A lot has changed.

I made that prediction back when I was piss drunk 24/7.

I'm also hardly alone when making that prediction again for November.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Time to disappoint Jack: you got lucky. Plain and simple. Being piss drunk only adds to the fact that your choice wasn't an intellectual one - just a wild ass guess, not unlike most of your "thinking." You had 2 choices to get it right - you could have flipped a coin. Calling heads doesn't make you smart.

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Friday, May 15, 2020 10:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Since you haven't and will never disprove the existence of God, I'm wondering then if your mind will at least be open to the possibility that he exists when I'm right (again) and Trump wins (again).

Disproving God's existence changes nothing. It is not worth doing. Where humans are right now, this very second, is where God is either on a million year long unscheduled vacation, or God prematurely retired, or God is dead. But if God suddenly woke up from his napping on the job, it would make life very interesting for humans and very easy to prove God exists. Some examples of proof:

“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
— Donald Trump

If Covid-19 disappears, that is proof God exists. God is back from his vacation!

“I resign. Mike Pence is now President.”
— Donald Trump

That is proof God exists. God is reading the news and picked up the phone and called Trump.

Quotes that suggest Trump is passively leaving his work to be done by God’s hands are in the article: ‘It’s going to disappear’: Trump’s changing tone on coronavirus
www.politico.com/news/2020/03/17/how-trump-shifted-his-tone-on-coronav
irus-134246


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Saturday, May 16, 2020 5:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Since you haven't and will never disprove the existence of God, I'm wondering then if your mind will at least be open to the possibility that he exists when I'm right (again) and Trump wins (again).

Disproving God's existence changes nothing. It is not worth doing. Where humans are right now, this very second, is where God is either on a million year long unscheduled vacation, or God prematurely retired, or God is dead. But if God suddenly woke up from his napping on the job, it would make life very interesting for humans and very easy to prove God exists. Some examples of proof:



You're going to have to define exactly what you think God's "job" is.

You sound like a whiny angsty teen now. Maybe an emo rock song. Please, don't cut yourself.

Quote:

“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
— Donald Trump

If Covid-19 disappears, that is proof God exists. God is back from his vacation!



No. That would not be proof that God exists.

Quote:

“I resign. Mike Pence is now President.”
— Donald Trump

That is proof God exists. God is reading the news and picked up the phone and called Trump.



No. That would not be proof that God exists either.


How many football players do you suppose have prayed to God before a game that they play well and they win the game? How many football fans have prayed that their team plays well and wins the game, for that matter?

Both teams can't win. God can't be everything to everyone at all times.

This is exactly what your examples are. Subjective crap.

And if we're going to be leaving the decision up to God to make the winning team the one who prayed the hardest, I hate to break it to you... it won't be Biden winning in November. (Which is what is going to happen anyhow, but it has nothing to do with prayer).



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 16, 2020 5:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Look at yourself and realize that your Atheism is a religion onto itself. It takes just as much faith to believe that there is not a higher power as it takes to believe that there is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, it takes no effort, no faith, no nothing to disbelieve in a Hollow Earth. Hollow Earth is on the same mental plane of existence as God.
www.wired.com/2014/07/fantastically-wrong-hollow-earth/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Earth

It takes no effort, no faith, no nothing to disbelieve in Trump, yet some are 100% certain he will be reelected.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Since you haven't and will never disprove the existence of God, I'm wondering then if your mind will at least be open to the possibility that he exists when I'm right (again) and Trump wins (again).


Keep in mind that last time I was the only person here saying that he was going to win, and you didn't find too many in the actual real world who thought so.

A lot has changed.

I made that prediction back when I was piss drunk 24/7.

I'm also hardly alone when making that prediction again for November.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Time to disappoint Jack: you got lucky. Plain and simple. Being piss drunk only adds to the fact that your choice wasn't an intellectual one - just a wild ass guess, not unlike most of your "thinking." You had 2 choices to get it right - you could have flipped a coin. Calling heads doesn't make you smart.




Uhhhhh.... no. I did a lot of research and polling methodologies were severely flawed and skewed in favor of Clinton. Particularly in battleground states like Florida. According to the odds-makers like Nate Silver, a Trump win was more like having one face that said Trump on a 10 sided die and Clinton's name on the other 9 sides. It's what lead up to the absolute shock and horror you saw from Clinton fans, yanno, with all the screaming and crying in the streets and online, followed by weeks of protesting "not my president" and "Fuck Trump", followed by years of TDS and the Legacy Media putting out anti-Trump stories every single day to the point where nobody except for the cry babies even pay attention to them anymore.

It wasn't a guess. It was a confident statement in spite of everyone else telling me that I was wrong. It was easy to see who was going to win if you looked beneath the Legacy Media lies.

Feel free to go back and look at my posts on the topic around that time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 16, 2020 6:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Since you haven't and will never disprove the existence of God, I'm wondering then if your mind will at least be open to the possibility that he exists when I'm right (again) and Trump wins (again).

Disproving God's existence changes nothing. It is not worth doing. Where humans are right now, this very second, is where God is either on a million year long unscheduled vacation, or God prematurely retired, or God is dead. But if God suddenly woke up from his napping on the job, it would make life very interesting for humans and very easy to prove God exists. Some examples of proof:



You're going to have to define exactly what you think God's "job" is.

You sound like a whiny angsty teen now. Maybe an emo rock song. Please, don't cut yourself.

Quote:

“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
— Donald Trump

If Covid-19 disappears, that is proof God exists. God is back from his vacation!



No. That would not be proof that God exists.

Quote:

“I resign. Mike Pence is now President.”
— Donald Trump

That is proof God exists. God is reading the news and picked up the phone and called Trump.



No. That would not be proof that God exists either.


How many football players do you suppose have prayed to God before a game that they play well and they win the game? How many football fans have prayed that their team plays well and wins the game, for that matter?

Both teams can't win. God can't be everything to everyone at all times.

This is exactly what your examples are. Subjective crap.

And if we're going to be leaving the decision up to God to make the winning team the one who prayed the hardest, I hate to break it to you... it won't be Biden winning in November. (Which is what is going to happen anyhow, but it has nothing to do with prayer).



Do Right, Be Right. :)

You have confused a coin toss with a miracle. Pray for heads or pray for tails. Whatever comes up proves nothing about God, but if the flipped silver dollar lands as a bag full of gold doubloons, that is proof God exists. Or if an egomaniac resigns with grace from the Presidency because he is inadequate handling Covid-19, that is proof.
www.cheatsheet.com/health-fitness/signs-you-may-be-an-egomaniac.html

British medical journal The Lancet says Americans should oust President Trump from the White House and elect a leader who will support – rather than undermine – public health experts who are battling the COVID-19 pandemic. If God exists, he would act.
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31140-5/ful
ltext

The Administration is obsessed with magic bullets—vaccines, new medicines, or a hope that the virus will simply disappear. But only a steadfast reliance on basic public health principles, like test, trace, and isolate, will see the emergency brought to an end, and this requires an effective national public health agency. (God or) Americans must put a president in the White House come January, 2021, who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics.

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Saturday, May 16, 2020 11:59 AM

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Quote:

SECOND: There is a way to prove it

KIKI: Then prove it.

Hmmm.... still no proof from SECOND.

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Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SECOND: There is a way to prove it

KIKI: Then prove it.

Hmmm.... still no proof from SECOND.

This is the fundamental misunderstanding that confuses all discussions of God's existence. How would I, or anyone, prove that Signym and 1kiki are Americans, not Russian trolls? It can't be done. That would be Signym and 1kiki who have to prove it because of the anonymizing of fireflyfans.net. Because of the structure of the entire Universe, God is being anonymized just the same way as are Signym and 1kiki. It is not for us to prove God's existence. God will have to step forward, and do it often, to halt all this idle chit-chat about God's existence. Otherwise, God doesn't exist as the Alpha/Omega, and Signym and 1kiki don't exist as more than Russian Trolls. At that point the question gets more interesting: why does God not step forward? Privacy concerns? Oh, please. Is God in a contest with Satan and the rules are God can't step forward until the game is over? Oh, that would be fun, but kind of unlikely. I'd like to see the winner receive the game-prize before Covid-19 kills me! The Encyclopedia says that God will win, but doesn't say when or what the prize is:
www.britannica.com/topic/Christianity/Satan-and-the-origin-of-evil

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Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


How would ANYONE prove I'm American?

** I ** know how ** I ** would prove ** I'M ** American!

How would ** YOU ** prove ** YOU'RE ** American?


It actually can be done!

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Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SECOND: There is a way to prove it

KIKI: Then prove it.

Hmmm.... still no proof from SECOND.

This is the fundamental misunderstanding that confuses all discussions of God's existence. How would I, or anyone, prove that Signym and 1kiki are Americans, not Russian trolls? It can't be done. That would be Signym and 1kiki who have to prove it because of the anonymizing of fireflyfans.net. Because of the structure of the entire Universe, God is being anonymized just the same way as are Signym and 1kiki. It is not for us to prove God's existence. God will have to step forward, and do it often, to halt all this idle chit-chat about God's existence. Otherwise, God doesn't exist as the Alpha/Omega, and Signym and 1kiki don't exist as more than Russian Trolls. At that point the question gets more interesting: why does God not step forward? Privacy concerns? Oh, please. Is God in a contest with Satan and the rules are God can't step forward until the game is over? Oh, that would be fun, but kind of unlikely. I'd like to see the winner receive the game-prize before Covid-19 kills me! The Encyclopedia says that God will win, but doesn't say when or what the prize is:
www.britannica.com/topic/Christianity/Satan-and-the-origin-of-evil

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Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:54 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
How would ANYONE prove I'm American?

** I ** know how ** I ** would prove it! But you'll have to figure it our for yourself.

It will cost you a postcard. Send the postcard to HAKEN, the administrator of fireflyfans.net, in Hawaii. Hakin will repost an image of the card here. Whatever post-office cancelled the stamp will be proof of your origin. If the stamp is Russian, you are not an American.
http://fireflyfans.net/profileshow.aspx?u=739
https://twitter.com/Haken

Alternatively, if you don't want to go through Hakan as an intermediary, post your phone number here. If it starts with a 7, you are Russian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes#Zone_7:_Pa
rts_of_the_former_Soviet_Union


I'm not sure how God would post his phone number or send a postcard. Probably God would come in person, skipping the electronics and stamps.

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Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:02 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

How would I, or anyone, prove that Signym and 1kiki are Americans, not Russian trolls? It can't be done.
Quote:

It will cost you a postcard. Send the postcard to HAKEN, the administrator of fireflyfans.net, in Hawaii. Hakin will repost an image of the card here. Whatever post-office cancelled the stamp will be proof of your origin. If the stamp is Russian, you are not an American.
Since I am 'anyone', you've just shown it CAN be done by 'anyone'!

How clever of you - to dispute yourself and prove yourself wrong!

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Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:33 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

How would I, or anyone, prove that Signym and 1kiki are Americans, not Russian trolls? It can't be done.
Quote:

It will cost you a postcard. Send the postcard to HAKEN, the administrator of fireflyfans.net, in Hawaii. Hakin will repost an image of the card here. Whatever post-office cancelled the stamp will be proof of your origin. If the stamp is Russian, you are not an American.
Since I am 'anyone', you've just shown it CAN be done by 'anyone'!

How clever of you - to dispute yourself and prove yourself wrong!

The proof of 1kiki's existence as an American citizen will require 1kiki to get involved. If 1kiki won't because of shyness or death or Russianess, then proof in not possible unless you know where 1kiki lives in America and kick down the door. Likewise, the proof of God's existence requires God to get involved. If God won't, for whatever reasons, then proof of God's existence is not possible unless you know what door to kick down in God's dwelling place.

Most people think in abstractions, that they can prove God's existence without God actively getting involved and God sending signals/postcards or God coming in person to them. That's why we have these long and meandering discussions about God's existence that never accomplish anything. We are trying unsuccessfully to compensate for God being on a long vacation or early retirement or God's extreme shyness/non-existence.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yawn ...


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Since you haven't and will never disprove the existence of God, I'm wondering then if your mind will at least be open to the possibility that he exists when I'm right (again) and Trump wins (again).

Disproving God's existence changes nothing. It is not worth doing. Where humans are right now, this very second, is where God is either on a million year long unscheduled vacation, or God prematurely retired, or God is dead. But if God suddenly woke up from his napping on the job, it would make life very interesting for humans and very easy to prove God exists. Some examples of proof:



You're going to have to define exactly what you think God's "job" is.

You sound like a whiny angsty teen now. Maybe an emo rock song. Please, don't cut yourself.

Quote:

“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
— Donald Trump

If Covid-19 disappears, that is proof God exists. God is back from his vacation!



No. That would not be proof that God exists.

Quote:

“I resign. Mike Pence is now President.”
— Donald Trump

That is proof God exists. God is reading the news and picked up the phone and called Trump.



No. That would not be proof that God exists either.


How many football players do you suppose have prayed to God before a game that they play well and they win the game? How many football fans have prayed that their team plays well and wins the game, for that matter?

Both teams can't win. God can't be everything to everyone at all times.

This is exactly what your examples are. Subjective crap.

And if we're going to be leaving the decision up to God to make the winning team the one who prayed the hardest, I hate to break it to you... it won't be Biden winning in November. (Which is what is going to happen anyhow, but it has nothing to do with prayer).



Do Right, Be Right. :)

You have confused a coin toss with a miracle. Pray for heads or pray for tails. Whatever comes up proves nothing about God, but if the flipped silver dollar lands as a bag full of gold doubloons, that is proof God exists. Or if an egomaniac resigns with grace from the Presidency because he is inadequate handling Covid-19, that is proof.
www.cheatsheet.com/health-fitness/signs-you-may-be-an-egomaniac.html

British medical journal The Lancet says Americans should oust President Trump from the White House and elect a leader who will support – rather than undermine – public health experts who are battling the COVID-19 pandemic. If God exists, he would act.
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31140-5/ful
ltext

The Administration is obsessed with magic bullets—vaccines, new medicines, or a hope that the virus will simply disappear. But only a steadfast reliance on basic public health principles, like test, trace, and isolate, will see the emergency brought to an end, and this requires an effective national public health agency. (God or) Americans must put a president in the White House come January, 2021, who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly






This is a conversation about an overblown cold and the existance of God.

How the fuck do you find a way to link Trump into every single line of dialogue you make?

Is it outside the parameters of your programming to have a conversation about anything that doesn't devolve to Trump?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, May 17, 2020 7:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
How would ANYONE prove I'm American?

** I ** know how ** I ** would prove it! But you'll have to figure it our for yourself.

It will cost you a postcard. Send the postcard to HAKEN, the administrator of fireflyfans.net, in Hawaii. Hakin will repost an image of the card here. Whatever post-office cancelled the stamp will be proof of your origin. If the stamp is Russian, you are not an American.
http://fireflyfans.net/profileshow.aspx?u=739
https://twitter.com/Haken

Alternatively, if you don't want to go through Hakan as an intermediary, post your phone number here. If it starts with a 7, you are Russian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes#Zone_7:_Pa
rts_of_the_former_Soviet_Union


I'm not sure how God would post his phone number or send a postcard. Probably God would come in person, skipping the electronics and stamps.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Since we're all posting our phone numbers in here now, how about you go first, Second.

Then everybody else can use what happens to you as a warning not to do that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, May 17, 2020 8:22 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Since we're all posting our phone numbers in here now, how about you go first, Second.

Then everybody else can use what happens to you as a warning not to do that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I've got nothing to prove and I guess God has the same attitude: "Believe or don't believe in me but I've got nothing to prove." Because God is being uncooperative, and because God arranged the Universe so God's existence can't be proved without God doing the equivalent of posting his phone number at fff.net, we aren't making any progress with that proof. We could next argue about why God is uncooperative or why God's privacy is paramount in the structure of the Universe or why Covid-19 exists. We can prove Covid-19 exists, at least according to the MSM stories, so, we are making significant progress. Maybe Covid-19 is a test from Heaven? You pass the test only if you do what God expects. It just so happens that the MSM reported on how to Pass The Test: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63473&mid=11009
03#1100903


I noticed that 6ixStringJack flunked The Test because he thinks it is Communism to wear masks.

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Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:08 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Uhhhhh.... no. I did a lot of research and polling methodologies were severely flawed and skewed in favor of Clinton. Particularly in battleground states like Florida. According to the odds-makers like Nate Silver, a Trump win was more like having one face that said Trump on a 10 sided die and Clinton's name on the other 9 sides. It's what lead up to the absolute shock and horror you saw from Clinton fans, yanno, with all the screaming and crying in the streets and online, followed by weeks of protesting "not my president" and "Fuck Trump", followed by years of TDS and the Legacy Media putting out anti-Trump stories every single day to the point where nobody except for the cry babies even pay attention to them anymore.

It wasn't a guess. It was a confident statement in spite of everyone else telling me that I was wrong. It was easy to see who was going to win if you looked beneath the Legacy Media lies.

Feel free to go back and look at my posts on the topic around that time.




Sorry, EVERYONE guessed. Even Nate, who actually does do Research (the idea that you did anything close to real research... can't laugh hard enough, thanks). His was one of the most educated guesses and even he was wrong. You got lucky by following your feelz.

I love how Trumpers can't fathom that there's an actual reason why "President Trump" is a horrifying idea. They'd rather just act superior (we're on the winning side!) than consider that he really is a Lying SoS that wouldn't slow down to spit on them. Let me know how the veal is next time you eat at Mara Lago. You show up there and they wouldn't even let you in the servants' entrance. There's something about their unquestioned devotion to a - let's be honest - a pretty bad conman, that has Jim Jones cultism all over it. Not only could and does Trump get away with murder, I bet many of his followers would die for him without a blink. And hey, there they go. Headed out to bars, and packing in restaurants because they're lemming master said to. No masks, no distancing, not even a consideration for who they might infect. Just blindly follow.

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Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:22 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I love how Trumpers can't fathom that there's an actual reason why "President Trump" is a horrifying idea. They'd rather just act superior (we're on the winning side!) than consider that he really is a Lying SoS that wouldn't slow down to spit on them. Let me know how the veal is next time you eat at Mara Lago. You show up there and they wouldn't even let you in the servants' entrance. There's something about their unquestioned devotion to a - let's be honest - a pretty bad conman, that has Jim Jones cultism all over it. Not only could and does Trump get away with murder, I bet many of his followers would die for him without a blink. And hey, there they go. Headed out to bars, and packing in restaurants because they're lemming master said to. No masks, no distancing, not even a consideration for who they might infect. Just blindly follow.

‘I don’t hate Donald, I hate you’ — Howard Stern, a longtime Trump friend, blasts those who voted for him. “I hate you for voting for him, for not having intelligence. For not being able to see what’s going on with the coronavirus, for not being able to see what the Justice Department is doing. I hate you, I don’t want you here.”

Stern went on to say that Trump would be “disgusted” by the MAGA crew. “Go to Mar-a-Lago, see if there is any people who look like you,” he said. “The oddity in all of this is the people Trump despises most, love him the most.”

His advice to Trump? Do the right thing.

“I do think it would be extremely patriotic of Donald to say, ‘I’m in over my head and I don’t want to be president anymore,’” he said, while acknowledging that is not likely to happen. Stern, who has had the president on his show many times over his storied career in broadcasting, has long held the contention that Trump never wanted to actually win the election.

“I don’t think it was serious. I don’t think he wanted to be the president. I knew him. He had a great life at Mar-a-Lago.”

www.marketwatch.com/story/i-dont-hate-donald-i-hate-you-howard-stern-a
-longtime-trump-friend-blasts-those-who-voted-for-him-2020-05-13


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