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Act of War Against Iran
Sunday, January 12, 2020 12:06 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Sunday, January 12, 2020 12:26 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, January 12, 2020 1:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63460 Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts. Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view. Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities"). Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy. Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours. Quantify, wherever possible. If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work. Occam's razor - if there are two hypotheses that explain the data equally well choose the simpler. Ask whether the hypothesis can, at least in principle, be falsified (shown to be false by some unambiguous test). In other words, it is testable? Can others duplicate the experiment and get the same result? http://carlsagan.com/index_ideascontent.htm Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
Sunday, January 12, 2020 2:53 PM
Sunday, January 12, 2020 4:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: How MANY baloney (bullshit) rules do your posts violate? www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63460 Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit
Sunday, January 12, 2020 4:54 PM
THG
Sunday, January 12, 2020 4:59 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Sunday, January 12, 2020 5:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: They should probably stop doing that. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, January 12, 2020 5:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You sound like you're really scared, buddy. You should probably take a Xanax and take a nap. Iraq's Parliament calls for expulsion of U.S. troops https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iraqs-parliament-calls-for-expulsion-of-us-troops/ar-BBYDryi?ocid=spartandhp Scared no, but concerned for the Americans who are going to loose their lives over this; aren't you? It's also becoming self-evident, Trump is assisting Putin gain traction in the Middle East by removing the United States from the area. Syria and now Iraq. What a fuck up. T
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You sound like you're really scared, buddy. You should probably take a Xanax and take a nap.
Sunday, January 12, 2020 5:35 PM
Sunday, January 12, 2020 5:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: They should probably stop doing that. Do Right, Be Right. :)I agree that top Trump administration officials should stop declining to provide evidence that Soleimani would attack 4 US embassies. Days after President Donald Trump claimed the US killed Iran's top military general because he was targeting four American embassies, two of the President's top national security officials are declining to provide evidence of the intelligence used to justify the US drone strike. In interviews that aired Sunday, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and national security adviser Robert O'Brien both did not cite specific intelligence information when pressed by their interviewers. www.cnn.com/2020/01/12/politics/robert-obrien-mark-esper-soleimani-embassy-attack-cnntv/index.html The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Monday, January 13, 2020 7:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Don't give a shit. The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, January 13, 2020 8:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Don't give a shit. The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear. Do Right, Be Right. :)"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'." www.openculture.com/2016/10/isaac-asimov-laments-the-cult-of-ignorance-in-the-united-states.html The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Monday, January 13, 2020 8:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Don't give a shit. The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear. Do Right, Be Right. :)"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'." www.openculture.com/2016/10/isaac-asimov-laments-the-cult-of-ignorance-in-the-united-states.html The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly You can pretend that Issac wasn't talking about you if it makes you feel better about yourself. Whatever. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, January 13, 2020 9:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Don't give a shit. The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear. Do Right, Be Right. :)"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'." www.openculture.com/2016/10/isaac-asimov-laments-the-cult-of-ignorance-in-the-united-states.html
Monday, January 13, 2020 11:14 AM
Monday, January 13, 2020 11:34 AM
Monday, January 13, 2020 6:29 PM
Monday, January 13, 2020 10:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I can't help but notice that your posts are 100% baloney. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63460 Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit
Monday, January 13, 2020 11:02 PM
Monday, January 13, 2020 11:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: You're an idiot. Do you think Bolt-on, Pompeous, the war-hawks in the House and Senate, et al who are running the show would be more moderate under Hillary? Yanno, Hillary-the-pervert who managed to destroy 5 countries as mere Sec of State? Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Don't give a shit. The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear. Do Right, Be Right. :)"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'." www.openculture.com/2016/10/isaac-asimov-laments-the-cult-of-ignorance-in-the-united-states.html The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly You can pretend that Issac wasn't talking about you if it makes you feel better about yourself. Whatever. Do Right, Be Right. :)It never fails: somebody as ignorant as hell tells me they know better than me. When their way fails for them, but my way works for me, the ignoramus never, never in a million years, looks back and realizes they don't know as much as they think they know. They think their failure was "bad luck" and my success was "good luck" and "cheating". When their failures and my successes are repeated, again and again, the ignoramus can't believe I was not cheating or lucky and goes right back to explaining everything by luck and cheating. By the way, if Trump is reelected (he has a 50% chance and nothing can change the coin flip randomness of elections) that is good for me, bad for you, despite you wanting him to stay another term. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:37 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: In 2017, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) created a special unit — the Iran Mission Center — to focus attention on the U.S. plans against Iran. The initiative for this unit came from CIA director John Brennan, who left his post as the Trump administration came into office. Brennan believed that the CIA needed to focus attention on what the United States sees as problem areas — North Korea and Iran, for instance. This predated the Trump administration. Brennan’s successor — Mike Pompeo, who was CIA director for just over a year (until he was appointed U.S. Secretary of State) — continued this policy. The CIA’s Iran-related activity had been conducted in the Iran Operations Division (Persia House). This was a section with Iran specialists who built up knowledge about political and economic developments inside Iran and in the Iranian diaspora. Advertisement: It bothered the hawks in Washington — as one official told me — that Persia House was filled with Iran specialists who had no special focus on regime change in Iran. Some of them, due to their long concentration on Iran, had developed sensitivity to the country. Trump’s people wanted a much more focused and belligerent group that would provide the kind of intelligence that tickled the fancy of his National Security Adviser John Bolton. To head the Iran Mission Center, the CIA appointed Michael D’Andrea. D’Andrea was central to the post-9/11 interrogation program, and he ran the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center. Assassinations and torture were central to his approach. It was D’Andrea who expanded the CIA’s drone strike program, in particular the signature strike. The signature strike is a particularly controversial instrument. The CIA was given the allowance to kill anyone who fit a certain profile — a man of a certain age, for instance, with a phone that had been used to call someone on a list. The dark arts of the CIA are precisely those of D’Andrea.
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 6:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So I've been listening to various interpretations of how complocot Trump was on this mirdere of Soleimani.
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:03 AM
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 12:46 PM
Quote:SIGNY: So I've been listening to various interpretations of how complicit Trump was on this murder of Soleimani. SECOND: I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran. Trump now has that option and it makes the military worried that he may foolishly use it in a fit of pique to murder an Iranian big-shot
Quote:A Newsweek Reporter Resigns, a Counter-Narrative Won’t Die Is the media suppressing evidence that the 2018 chemical 'attack' in Syria didn't happen the way officials said it did?
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 2:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Why should I believe Newsweek? I think my interpretation fits events and timeline a lot better. BTW, sorry for the typos.
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:20 PM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by second: I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran.
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 4:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by second: I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran. He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this? Once again, Signoramus is only acting interested - more agitation smoke.
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 4:43 PM
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 4:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by second: I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran. He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this?
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by second: I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran. He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this? Do you have a video that he said that? I've never seen a video where he says that. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by second: I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran. He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this? Do you have a video that he said that? I've never seen a video where he says that. Do Right, Be Right. :)Trump has floated the idea of thwarting hurricanes (ayatollahs?) headed for the US by bombing them, including by dropping nuclear bombs on hurricanes (ayatollahs?) to disrupt their course, Axios reported, citing conversations with sources who heard Trump's comments and were briefed on a National Security Council memo that recorded the comments. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 6:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I know Axios reported on it. I'm asking you if you have video of Trump actually saying it. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 6:44 PM
Quote:I don't have a video of Trump taking a dump, but I'm sure he has and will again. Same is true about him talking about nuking an ayatollah.
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I know Axios reported on it. I'm asking you if you have video of Trump actually saying it. Do Right, Be Right. :)I don't have a video of Trump taking a dump, but I'm sure he has and will again. Same is true about him talking about nuking an ayatollah.
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:48 PM
Quote: https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/W76.html The W76 Warhead May 1973 Development engineering begun at LANL June 1978 First production units completed The first W76 warheads are approaching the end of their originally planned 30 year service life in 2008. This led to the initiation of the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension program in 2000 to refurbish the warheads for decades of further service. The first W76-1 is planned for delivery in September 2007 with completion in 2017. 2000 Planning begun for the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension modification. 9/2007 Delivery of first W76-1 planned.
Quote: https://www.armscontrol.org/taxonomy/term/44/0?page=24 May 13, 2009 The first two of these LEPs, Life Extension Programs, were done for the ICBM warhead, the W87 and for the Trident warhead, the W76. There are more coming.
Quote: https://nukewatch.org/pressreleases/Obama-6-19-13.pdf Obama pledged to reduce nuclear arsenal, then came this weapon The U.S. is currently conducting a Life Extension Program for the sub--launched W76 warhead. This is extending its service life by three decades or more, and giving it a new fuze that is likely capable of more precise heights of burst. As far back as 1997 the head of the Navy’s Strategic Systems pointed out that the combination of increased accuracy and a changed fuze could transform the 100 kiloton W76 from a weapon of deterrence targeting soft targets such as cities into a hard target killer of missile silos and command centers.
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:50 PM
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:51 PM
Quote: https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/CSDS/Books/strategicchallenge2.pdf August 2014 ... the President can use a low-yield nuclear weapon instead of being constrained by the large yields of ICBMs or SLBMs.
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 2:01 AM
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 6:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, THUGR ET AL ... please let go of your fixation with Trump. It has shredded what little judgment you have. The M$M is 90% crap. don't pay attention to it. What Trump says and tweets is 90$ crap. Don't pay attention to that either: While under cover of a fusilade of wild tweets Trump was desperately trying to reel the situation in, keep it from spinning out of control. Watch what happens, don't pay attention to what people "say". It's all narrative, and you're fools for getting sucked in, either way.
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 6:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: I love how sig and Jack keep suggesting MSN is all bullshit. MSN is web page. A web site morons. It collects stories from news outlets globally and puts them together on a web page. This allows you to find current updated news. And no sig, they don't edit the stories in any way like zerohedge does. Get with it morons. Just because a story quoted here shows an MSN address the actual stories are from other sources. Here is an example: The link below says MSN but the story was written by the Washington Post. The fact that you don't know that shows you're, as always, ignorant about the topic you're posting about. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/winners-and-losers-from-the-iowa-democratic-debate/ar-BBYY2Or?ocid=spartandhp T Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
Thursday, January 16, 2020 2:24 AM
Quote:A Microsoft network. It collects stories from news outlets globally and puts them together on a web page. This allows you to find current updated news. And no sig, they don't edit the stories in any way like zerohedge does.
Thursday, January 16, 2020 6:44 AM
Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: You're funny sig. You recently said living in Russia affords all the same freedoms and benefits of living in America, a democracy. Sorry, but it's you that doesn't know what's going on in the world comrade. If you don't see the chasm of separation that exists between living under a dictator and living in a democracy, you surly are a Russian troll too afraid to stand up and change your circumstances. And you surly shouldn't be telling others how to think or live. Turn to your right, then your left and tell kiki and Jack the jig is up. T Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
Thursday, January 16, 2020 12:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG:You're funny sig. You recently said living in Russia affords all the same freedoms and benefits of living in America, a democracy.
Quote:Sorry, but it's you that doesn't know what's going on in the world comrade. If you don't see the chasm of separation that exists between living under a dictator and living in a democracy, you surly are a Russian troll too afraid to stand up and change your circumstances. And you surly shouldn't be telling others how to think or live.
Thursday, January 16, 2020 1:19 PM
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