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Are Trump voters seriously considering not voting for Trump a second time? But only if Democratic politicians stop opposing Trump’s decisions?

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I didn't say anything about Trump.

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I don’t think Democrats should change themselves to please Trump voters, to get them to switch sides.

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I don’t think Democrats can change themselves enough to make a Trump voter switch and, most importantly, stay switched for two or more elections in a row.

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You need to stop looking at this is a Trump thing, or about "Trump Voters".

A lot of people who voted for Trump are independents and even former Liberals that had enough with the Democratic Party as it is in 2016 onward.

How many? I don't know. But as you like to bring up often, Trump lost the popular vote.

The Democratic Party doesn't need to change so much that it would steal 60 Million votes away from Trump in 2020.

It would absolutely destroy Trump if it stopped being the party of division though.


As I've said many times before, it needs to throw away identity politics as a message. You seem to be getting this. You're the only person in here with negative things to say about Kavanaugh that were based off of facts instead of feels.

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I'm gonna read your mind and tell you what is going inside there based upon what I know about real people who think the Democrats should "Throw away identity politics". They hate identity politics because they hate those separate identities. They think everybody should strive to be as similar as their psychology allows and everybody has got the same history and problems, approximately, taken from a curated and approved list that all humans have in common. They don't want to know about your odd language, your accented English, your peculiar culture, your crazy family, your religion, your unique problems, your idiosyncratic goals. They think Americans should have a common purpose that we can all agree on. They want everybody to strive to become Bland-Americans, no other kind of hyphenated-American. Democrats are not gonna throw away Identity Politics to please white Americans that hate those identities like they hate niggers, or chinks, or gooks, or spicks, or mex-skins, or queers, or dykes, or Jehovah's Witnesses, or Muslims, or foreigners, or Liberals, or what-have-yous.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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You Democrats just gave the GOP their long time wet dream in the Supreme Court.

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I'm not a Dem, fart head. MATH and the GOP - the people who wouldn't stop to p*ss on your shoes if they were on fire - gave all of US Kavanaugh. You're too busy worrying about who's calling you names to see anything larger.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Just think about how much worse it could be if Donald Trump was at least a little likable.
I mean REALLY think about that one.

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I'd rather think about reality - ever think about that? I mean REALLY think about that one?

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Signym, I've read hundreds of thousands of words you have written

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I'm gonna read your mind and tell you what is going inside there based upon what I know about real people who think the Democrats should "Throw away identity politics".

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Once again, you're arguing with the voices in your head. That's a REALLY bad habit which promotes a tremendous amount of misunderstanding and ill-will, and I wonder why you - or ANYone- would do that here.

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They hate identity politics because they hate those separate identities. They think everybody should strive to be as similar as their psychology allows and everybody has got the same history and problems, approximately, taken from a curated and approved list that all humans have in common. They don't want to know about your odd language, your accented English, your peculiar culture, your crazy family, your religion, your unique problems, your idiosyncratic goals.

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The funny thing is, I see a lot of people on the so-called "left" who feel the same way. They're all about tolerance, until someone tells them that they voted for Trump, or that their religion dictates that being gay is wrong, or that Americans should have a common identity, or that they want and need manufacturing jobs, or that men are indeed different than women, or that Russia is a rival not an enemy ...

NOPE! Once somebody brings up a problem or identity or goal that is off the LIBERAL'S curated list (and BTW it's liberals who're always talking about their "curated" lives, not Trump supporters) tolerance goes right out the window and violence becomes the accepted response. Just look at the slavering liberals here.

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They think Americans should have a common purpose that we can all agree on. They want everybody to strive to become Bland-Americans, no other kind of hyphenated-American.

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Having a common purpose doesn't mean being bland.

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Originally posted by second:
Signym, I've read hundreds of thousands of words you have written

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That's over an 800 page book for a mere 200,000 words, the minimum number that counts as 'hundreds of thousands'. That's like reading 'Middlemarch' (Eliot) or 'Bleak House' (Dickens). Or 2,000 pages for 500,000 words.
First of all, I doubt Signy has typed that many words. And second of all, I SERIOUSLY doubt you've even read a tenth of them. If you did, you wouldn't have such an abysmal lack of understanding of what Signy posts. You wouldn't be constantly arguing with the voices in your head.


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Are you having a HISSY FIT? You ARE, aren't you!

Well then! You can go stomp your widdle feet in the time-out corner widdle boy! And btw, I didn't bother reading the rest of your post.




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I'm not convinced. Your post represents about 100 words per inch on my palm device

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JSF you never heard of a curated life? Clearly, you don't listen to NPR!

The latest thing which just drills into my brain is when one of the hosts says, in an "oh poor you" tone of voice "sometimes the news feels like a train heading way too fast, destination unknown" and then goes on to explain how NPR will coddle you thru the day.
Yeesh! It just gives me the creeps.
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Why would any partially intelligent person intentionally listen to NPR, let alone somebody of my caliber?

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Why would any partially intelligent person intentionally listen to NPR, let alone somebody of my caliber?

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Maybe so you don't drown in your own hubris?

I can't say I listen to NPR, but I do get a wide range of political opinions. It's good to listen to others, especially if you don't agree with them, I think. Otherwise it's far too easy to just listen to people you agree with and their opinions of other people's opinions.

That's how echo chambers are formed and why we're collectively in the predicament we are as a country.

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Oh, the "curated life" was a big thing a few month ago but you don't hear about it much anymore. It meant needing someone to choose your experiences for you. Or in some cases you choose your own experiences, instead of having them come at you randomly. The idea is that being "connected" all the time thru social media has led us to be faced with TOO MANY experiences, so we need to be picky about what we do.

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"Bring Your Rage": Brooklyn Witches To Hex Kavanaugh, Rapists And Patriarchy In Occult Ritual

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But hey I just had a great idea! How about, after Kavanaugh, we agree to post without the words Democrat or Republican, man or woman, white or not, gay or straight, or any of the other words that divide us. The only valid description is American.

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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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It's kind of a shame that liberals seem to have held onto their hate and can't even talk about where we might find agreement, because unless we come together we'll never solve ANYthing.

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But hey I just had a great idea! How about, after Kavanaugh, we agree to post without the words Democrat or Republican, man or woman, white or not, gay or straight, or any of the other words that divide us. The only valid description is American.- SIGNY

Would you also ban the words California, Texas, Florida, New York because the only valid description is Americans? America is not united. - SECOND

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It is 50 different governments jammed close together, except for Alaska and Hawaii and, maybe someday, Puerto Rico.

And those 50 to 51 states are in competition with one another. That competition effects the citizens. To make that easier to understand, consider the competition between construction companies for building a petrochemical plant in Texas.

Several companies want to build that plant, but only one will win. Do the engineers say we are all simply engineers and congratulate the lucky engineers at the winning bidder? No. They are bitter that they lost. The more ambitious engineers quit the losers and go work for the winner where the new work is to be found. You see the same dynamic between the states as is seen between construction companies.

The more ambitious citizens switch states, leaving embittered losers behind in places like W Virginia. Does rich Virginia reach out to help poor West Virginia with money? Hell, no! If a hillbilly wants help, move to Virginia. Or beg for help from the Federal government and vote Trump. Maybe he will get you a job in a W Virginia coalmine. Or maybe he won’t. But you can be sure that the legislature of Virginia will not willingly help West Virginia. There is nothing that the Virginia legislature budgeted to send to the next state as charity. ...

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First thing you should be doing, as should everyone else, is to stop using the blanket term Liberal for anybody left of center. SGG and J0 are the closest things we have here to classical Liberals in the RWED

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SIX I think that is the fundamental difference between REAVER and GSTRING versus JO and SHINY: I think REAVER and GSTRING have really drunk the Koolaid.

JO and SHINY ... they probably still believe in fairness, not in just beating down certain subgroups.

OK, so who do we call what? I hate to use the term "libtard" so will "neoliberal" do?

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But hey I just had a great idea! How about, after Kavanaugh, we agree to post without the words Democrat or Republican, man or woman, white or not, gay or straight, or any of the other words that divide us. The only valid description is American.- SIGNY

Would you also ban the words California, Texas, Florida, New York because the only valid description is Americans? America is not united. - SECOND

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First of all, anything YOU say on the unity or disunite of America is suspect, because you yourself said that YOU have an interest in the United States being DISUNITED. "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

Remember? I hate to keep throwing those words in your face, but I think that was more than a random outburst from you: Not only is disunity PERFECT for the wealthy (who really can "do as they please" without fear of pushback from the peons) but you have a pretty clear history of fighting against any sort of unified American identity. In fact, I think that you're anti-American. And you're not alone in that here. Unlike the other anti-Americans on the board, you have a real, practical conflict of interest which affects your bank account. I would place THUGR, GSTRING, and SHTF in the same anti-American category, but they're that way because they've been propagandized.*

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Nah. Most of these complaints were about how he responded to a personal attack on his character that was made national news for three weeks while his life was under a microscope.

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The complaints fell into three main categories. Some relate to complicated matters of fact involving Kavanaugh’s actions many years ago, which might be difficult to verify or resolve.

Other complaints concern Kavanaugh’s behavior as a Judge on the Court of Appeals by favoring certain parties or interests, on which opinions may differ.

The third and most obviously problematic category of the complaints concerns Kavanaugh’s behavior during the nomination proceedings in September 2018. The Judicial Council summarized:

Justice Kavanaugh made inappropriate partisan statements that demonstrate bias and a lack of judicial temperament; and treated members of the Senate Judiciary Committee with disrespect.

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Nah. Most of these complaints were about how he responded to a personal attack on his character that was made national news for three weeks while his life was under a microscope.

He didn't make it partisan. The Democrats made it partisan.

I love how they sit back now and pretend that isn't exactly what happened.




Nothing is going to happen here either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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