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Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:42 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
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Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: SHE is making wild accusations and false narratives.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Sorry, brother, but I never bought into this whole Leftist idea of "always believe the woman no matter what" bullshit long before Kavanaugh, and neither does most of the country.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You're making a choice to believe a 30+ year after the allegation, allegation. I would say that you're only doing that because of the politics behind it, but in this insane age we're living in where you're guilty until proven innocent I really can't say that for sure about your opinion.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: How does a thing like this happen under somebody so divisive as Trump? How can the Democrats be so hated by the average citizen that isn't firmly in their echo chamber that Trump likely grows in power 6 weeks from now?
Saturday, September 22, 2018 8:56 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: The unbelievably stupid sh*t you post... Ironically, you just made a wild accusation. You're basing that on...what? Your feelz again?
Quote:Most of the country??? How would you know what most of the country believes?
Quote:According to you she's lying, so according to you she's guilty and has to prove her innocence She's calling for an FBI investigation to prove guilt or innocence. Are you even remotely aware of the facts of this case?
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: How many average citizens do you know? 20?
Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:04 AM
THG
Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: The perv weights in G and it's the women who is lying according to Jack. No surprise there.
Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:24 AM
Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:09 AM
Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Wow Jack, get some help. T
Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:10 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:But yes, that IS what happens when you make rape allegations. Now the burden of proof lies on you, and if there is no proof then you're lying.
Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:But yes, that IS what happens when you make rape allegations. Now the burden of proof lies on you, and if there is no proof then you're lying. That's not how it works, legally OR in real life. If there is no proof, then the suspect is found ... not "innocent" but "NOT GUILTY" ... and the accuser isn't necessarily lying. Attempted rape can often occur without leaving evidence, and in the circumstances of THIS accusation, she was a 15-year-old girl in a house with boys and alcohol and no adult supervision (One thing we don't know is whether SHE had been drinking too) and she could have been too scared to report this to the police because she might have gotten into serious trouble with her parents and/or kids just don't snitch on each other and/or she felt she might have at least partly precipitated the event by her own behavior. So I can imagine how this would have gone unreported and why there would be no "evidence".
Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Ironically, you just made a wild accusation. You're basing that on...what? Your feelz again? No I'm not. The burden of proof is on her. That's the law of the land buddy. If you don't like it, you're more than welcome to leave.
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Ironically, you just made a wild accusation. You're basing that on...what? Your feelz again?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:But yes, that IS what happens when you make rape allegations. Now the burden of proof lies on you, and if there is no proof then you're lying. That's not how it works, legally OR in real life. If there is no proof, then the suspect is found ... not "innocent" but "NOT GUILTY" ... and the accuser isn't necessarily lying. Attempted rape can often occur without leaving evidence, and in the circumstances of THIS accusation, she was a 15-year-old girl in a house with boys and alcohol and no adult supervision (One thing we don't know is whether SHE had been drinking too) and she could have been too scared to report this to the police because she might have gotten into serious trouble with her parents and/or kids just don't snitch on each other and/or she felt she might have at least partly precipitated the event by her own behavior. So I can imagine how this would have gone unreported and why there would be no "evidence". ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Ironically, you just made a wild accusation. You're basing that on...what? Your feelz again? No I'm not. The burden of proof is on her. That's the law of the land buddy. If you don't like it, you're more than welcome to leave. Hell yes you are! You said: "SHE is making wild accusations and false narratives. " How do you know she's making wild accusations? The burden of proof? She's asking for the FBI to investigate, right? You think she is carrying around a receipt? F*cksake. The GOP senators are the ones you need to drop that knowledge on.
Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:06 PM
Quote:I was pretty outraged over the way Anita Hill was treated, but the DEMS trampled all over her and approved Thomas' appointment because ... yanno ... black. Identity politics at its finest. They got paid back for it because Thomas turned out to be somewhere to the right of Genghis Kahn. Well done, Biden! - SIGNY ^ I wondered about the truthfulness of this when I first read it... you're acting so certain and blaming the Dems was a dead give away. (See, by now I know your tells and I also know your deep seated bigotry. SIGHEIL!)- SHIT
Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:12 PM
Quote:And what, pray tell, do you think the FBI is going to do about it 30 years later? lol There is ZERO way to prove that this ever took place.- SIX
Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:59 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:But yes, that IS what happens when you make rape allegations. Now the burden of proof lies on you, and if there is no proof then you're lying. That's not how it works, legally OR in real life. If there is no proof, then the suspect is found ... not "innocent" but "NOT GUILTY" ... and the accuser isn't necessarily lying. Attempted rape can often occur without leaving evidence, and in the circumstances of THIS accusation, she was a 15-year-old girl in a house with boys and alcohol and no adult supervision (One thing we don't know is whether SHE had been drinking too) and she could have been too scared to report this to the police because she might have gotten into serious trouble with her parents and/or kids just don't snitch on each other and/or she felt she might have at least partly precipitated the event by her own behavior. So I can imagine how this would have gone unreported and why there would be no "evidence". ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 That is precisely how the law works. You're forgetting about Libel and Slander, Sigs, which you and Kiki have brought up quite a bit on these boards. Let's face it. Up until recently, when false rape allegations were made, it has ruined lives of men who were targets of them, even if they were found Not Guilty. The tides seem to be turning on that these days though because only the most hard core Leftist Feminist blindly believes anyone who cries rape without knowing any of the facts, and there are quite a few women who are being charged for lying about this now. As they should be. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, September 22, 2018 3:13 PM
Saturday, September 22, 2018 4:07 PM
REAVERFAN
Saturday, September 22, 2018 4:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:But yes, that IS what happens when you make rape allegations. Now the burden of proof lies on you, and if there is no proof then you're lying. That's not how it works, legally OR in real life. If there is no proof, then the suspect is found ... not "innocent" but "NOT GUILTY" ... and the accuser isn't necessarily lying. Attempted rape can often occur without leaving evidence, and in the circumstances of THIS accusation, she was a 15-year-old girl in a house with boys and alcohol and no adult supervision (One thing we don't know is whether SHE had been drinking too) and she could have been too scared to report this to the police because she might have gotten into serious trouble with her parents and/or kids just don't snitch on each other and/or she felt she might have at least partly precipitated the event by her own behavior. So I can imagine how this would have gone unreported and why there would be no "evidence". ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 That is precisely how the law works. You're forgetting about Libel and Slander, Sigs, which you and Kiki have brought up quite a bit on these boards. Let's face it. Up until recently, when false rape allegations were made, it has ruined lives of men who were targets of them, even if they were found Not Guilty. The tides seem to be turning on that these days though because only the most hard core Leftist Feminist blindly believes anyone who cries rape without knowing any of the facts, and there are quite a few women who are being charged for lying about this now. As they should be. Do Right, Be Right. :)You don't think this Floozy-Ford gets a pass since she has been an Ultra Looney Leftist Radical Activist all her life? Even despite lapsing the 1 year Statute of Limitations? Apparently, if the storyline were accurate, occurring in Maryland, the category would be a Sexual Offense, 4th Degree, a misdemeanor. Statute of Limitations are currently 1 year, may have been different in 1982, 1981, 1983 (the Radical Activist claiming to be "victim" cannot recall the year of this supposed event in her life. Or is this an example of Fake Stories planted in Memory by shrinks?
Saturday, September 22, 2018 4:32 PM
Saturday, September 22, 2018 4:49 PM
Saturday, September 22, 2018 4:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I find the tactics that the Dems are using to delay and obstruct the process quite inventive, considering that they don't have the vote. Aside from the constant shouting from the gallery, the Dems have managed to ... Demand endless reams of paperwork from Kavanaugh's history in the Bush WH, Delay allegations of sexual misconduct until VERY late in the process, Then demand a public hearing, And then change their stance and demand a "full FBI investigation" as soon as a public hearing was acceded to. Now, I have no idea whether the allegations are true or false. (But if we were to follow THUGR's stance of letting Clinton's bygones be bygones, I suppose we could let this 30-year old allegation also be lost in the mists of history. Right?) But I'd be willing to bet SOME dollars that if you were to look into this professor's activities, you'd find her working with Democratic Senators in the past six months or so, working out the timing and tactics for maximum effect. BRAVO!
Saturday, September 22, 2018 5:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Some here are to thick to realize that it's what women not men believe that matters.
Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 PM
Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:44 PM
Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Sure, what a fucking moron. T
Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:38 PM
Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: No I'm not.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: And what, pray tell, do you think the FBI is going to do about it 30 years later?
Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Maybe you'd prefer to live in a predominantly Muslim country where they'll just chop a woman's head off if she were to make rape allegations?)
Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:36 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by second: Got a minute? Kavanaugh's High School Yearbook The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:14 AM
Quote:Let's face it. Up until recently, when false rape allegations were made, it has ruined lives of men who were targets of them, even if they were found Not Guilty. The tides seem to be turning on that these days though because only the most hard core Leftist Feminist blindly believes anyone who cries rape without knowing any of the facts, and there are quite a few women who are being charged for lying about this now. As they should be.
Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:And what, pray tell, do you think the FBI is going to do about it 30 years later? lol There is ZERO way to prove that this ever took place.- SIX First of all, even in criminal cases you don't have to "prove" your case, all you have to do is demonstrate your case beyond a REASONABLE doubt (not "beyond the shadow of a doubt"). So, how COULD this be demonstrated beyond a "reasonable" doubt? Well, the other highschooler who was in the room - Judge- could suddenly recover his memory and testify with Ford. The two other teenagers there ... did they see Ford run out of the house looking flustered? OR do none of them even remember a party like that ever took place? There would be no physical evidence, just testimony. And it's unlikely that anything definitive will show up ... or in fact, anything at all ... but not impossible. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Let's face it. Up until recently, when false rape allegations were made, it has ruined lives of men who were targets of them, even if they were found Not Guilty. The tides seem to be turning on that these days though because only the most hard core Leftist Feminist blindly believes anyone who cries rape without knowing any of the facts, and there are quite a few women who are being charged for lying about this now. As they should be. Six, I'm trying to understand your post here because it seems you're making two opposing arguments: 1- That the law provides certain protections regarding rape charges and rightfully so... 2- and that women have taken advantage of said laws to make false claims of rape against unsuspecting and innocent men Correct me if I'm wrong. The lives of these innocent men have suffered because of these false claims. And these claims are blindly believed to be true, seemingly only by the left, and that consequently two trends have arisen as a result: a- namely, innocent men's lives are ruined b- that these "false claimers" are being caught and punished Well, that's a mighty bold and extremely general statement. Has there been a recent rash of innocent men, who's lives have been ruined by false rape allegations? Is there a movement on behalf of these men? Or, perhaps, a website that speaks as to their shame and ruin? Perhaps a #I'veBeenWronged! Years ago, I heard of an organization of single fathers who formed a support group and met every Wednesday at 7 p.m. They would discuss legal ways to combat women who would use the system against them to abuse and mistreat them as fathers. You mean something like that has been formed? In other words, facts man. The very thing you mention in your post in your response to Sigs and Keeks. Has such an organization been formed? Is there a hashtag? Have there been reports of women being punished for false claims and accusations? Just curious as to how you came to the conclusions you made. SGG
Quote:Has there been a recent rash of innocent men, who's lives have been ruined by false rape allegations?
Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: How do you know she's making wild accusations?
Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:59 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: How do you know she's making wild accusations? How do you know she's not?
Sunday, September 23, 2018 10:47 AM
Quote:"Lifelong Friend" Of Kavanaugh Accuser Denies Attending Party Where Alleged Sexual Assault Occurred A woman believed to have been one of five people at a party some 35 years ago where Christine Blasey Ford claims she was sexually assaulted by Brett Kavanaugh has become the fourth person to deny any recollection of the event. In a Saturday night email to the Senate Judiciary Committee also received by several news outlets, Leland Ingham Keyser - a "longtime friend" of Blasey Ford said through her attorney: "Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford," said Keyser's attorney Howard Walsh, who has been "engaged in the limited capacity" of corresponding with the committee on behalf of Keyser, according to Politico. Kavanaugh and Mark Judge - the other teenager allegedly in the room during the alleged sexual assault - have both stated that they have no recollection of the incident, while a third man who Ford claims was at the party - Patrick J. Smyth, also denied any recollection of the event, telling the Judiciary Committee last week in a statement: "I understand that I have been identified by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford as the person she remembers as 'PJ' who supposedly was present at the party she described in her statements to the Washington Post," Smyth wrote in his statement. "I am issuing this statement today to make it clear to all involved that I have no knowledge of the party in question; nor do I have any knowledge of the allegations of improper conduct she has leveled against Brett Kavanaugh."
Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So Dr Ford doesn't recall the year that this event took place or where, but has placed four people (Kavanaugh, Judge, Keyser, "PJ" Smyth) besides herself at the party. At this point, all four deny that the party ever took place. Keyser denies even knowing Kavanaugh. As I posted before, I believe that Ford believes she's telling the truth, but she may be mistaken. However, it's difficult to understand how someone could be so massively mistaken as to invent a traumatic event that never took place. "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:53 PM
Quote:Signym, you didn't mention that Trump picked Kavanaugh, when there were so many better possibilities, because he wrote that a President can't be subpoenaed and can't be charged with a crime.
Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Unless Kavanaugh can convince four OTHER Justices to vote with him, his views on this topic are meaningless.
Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:32 PM
Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I think at the end of the day I'm going back to my old standby. Rich people are fucking gross. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Maybe you'd prefer to live in a predominantly Muslim country where they'll just chop a woman's head off if she were to make rape allegations?) WTF? Do you read your own posts? I'm defending her right to speak and have the FBI investigate - why would I want her head chopped off? That's what you want. Taking tips from Siggy? The stupid sh*t you post.
Sunday, September 23, 2018 3:42 PM
Sunday, September 23, 2018 3:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Yep, I keep pointing that out as well G.
Sunday, September 23, 2018 3:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Yep, I keep pointing that out as well G. The shear volume of them is remarkable!
Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, it seems that perhaps testimony from corroborating witnesses won't have to be taken, since it's happening in the press Quote:"Lifelong Friend" Of Kavanaugh Accuser Denies Attending Party Where Alleged Sexual Assault Occurred A woman believed to have been one of five people at a party some 35 years ago where Christine Blasey Ford claims she was sexually assaulted by Brett Kavanaugh has become the fourth person to deny any recollection of the event. In a Saturday night email to the Senate Judiciary Committee also received by several news outlets, Leland Ingham Keyser - a "longtime friend" of Blasey Ford said through her attorney: "Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford," said Keyser's attorney Howard Walsh, who has been "engaged in the limited capacity" of corresponding with the committee on behalf of Keyser, according to Politico. Kavanaugh and Mark Judge - the other teenager allegedly in the room during the alleged sexual assault - have both stated that they have no recollection of the incident, while a third man who Ford claims was at the party - Patrick J. Smyth, also denied any recollection of the event, telling the Judiciary Committee last week in a statement: "I understand that I have been identified by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford as the person she remembers as 'PJ' who supposedly was present at the party she described in her statements to the Washington Post," Smyth wrote in his statement. "I am issuing this statement today to make it clear to all involved that I have no knowledge of the party in question; nor do I have any knowledge of the allegations of improper conduct she has leveled against Brett Kavanaugh." https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-22/lifelong-friend-kavanaugh-accuser-denies-attending-party-where-alleged-sexual So Dr Ford doesn't recall the year that this event took place or where, but has placed four people (Kavanaugh, Judge, Keyser, "PJ" Smyth) besides herself at the party. At this point, all four deny that the party ever took place. Keyser denies even knowing Kavanaugh. As I posted before, I believe that Ford believes she's telling the truth, but she may be mistaken. However, it's difficult to understand how someone could be so massively mistaken as to invent a traumatic event that never took place.
Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:51 PM
Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Crazy, angry delusional victims. This place has it's share. It would surprise me to find out our local trolls aren't complicit in harassing people online. T
Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:11 PM
Quote:Crazy, angry delusional victims. This place has it's share. It would surprise me to find out our local trolls aren't complicit in harassing people online. -CRAZY DELUSIONAL THUGR Spare me. You actively engage in harassing people online every day.- SIX
Monday, September 24, 2018 2:03 AM
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