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How is this PoS still in office?
Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:20 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Thursday, August 9, 2018 10:42 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Thursday, August 9, 2018 10:53 AM
THG
Thursday, August 9, 2018 10:57 AM
Thursday, August 9, 2018 11:12 AM
Thursday, August 9, 2018 11:36 AM
BRENDA
Thursday, August 9, 2018 1:09 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Thursday, August 9, 2018 1:32 PM
Quote:...SIG Again, I have just speculation. But I sense that there is something driving Trump besides the challenge of running for office, and that he really does have a goal. First of all, unlike Hillary, who I think is so wedded to international banks she would unhesitatingly sell the US economy downriver, Trump is a national capitalist. He makes all of his money here, not abroad. His power, his ego, and his fortune are attached to the UNITED STATES leisure economy, not to Goldman Sachs or the military-industrial complex. And from that vantage point, Trump has seen American economic prospects (and therefore his) deteriorate due to outsourcing and needless bellicosity. From his viewpoint, he would make "better deals" for American than the previous six leaders and one prospective one. And he probably would. Trump's self-interest in something I can believe in. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60557&p=2 I always wondered why Hillary gave me a big case of the willies every time she tried to be charming. Now I know why: HILLARY CLINTON, WARMONGER http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60433 T
Thursday, August 9, 2018 2:01 PM
Quote:Hoo yeah! The economy's ON FIRE! But not in a good way. Big selloff on Wall Street Dow, down 360 pts.
Quote:Dollar hits new lows, lashed by China reserves view
Quote:Biggest Slump in US Housing in the Last 40 Years www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/142759 We have eight years of Bush's aggressive "trickle down" economics to thank. THANKS, MR. BUSH!
Quote:Meanwhile, our real-world economy is crumbling
Quote:Economic nightmare scenario (A prediction by Nouriel Roubini of the upcoming disaster, Feb 2008)
Quote:Despite what doom/gloomers say, economy roars on Part II
Quote:Despite what doom/gloomers say, economy roars on. AURAPTOR Just more fuel for the economy which is on FIRE! U.S. Stocks Rise on Verizon Profit; S&P 500 Nears 5-Year High
Thursday, August 9, 2018 2:36 PM
Quote:Wow, as the evidence begins to grow against Trump, it's astounding that sig thinks if she continues to play both sides, she will be remembered as being on the right side of the debates. That she can assert plausible deniability to her actually supporting Trump. Not so comrade... SIG from posts that show she plays both sides. Whenever she does she always has Trump as the better candidate. To do this she has to completely demonize Hillary. Remember that Hillary always suffers SIG's wrath. When it comes to Trump it's always yeah but...
Thursday, August 9, 2018 2:54 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: "How is this PoS still in office? Because Trump is an extreme reaction to an extreme situation, and because Dems have failed to recognize how extreme it is ... and in fact had enabled the situation to become even MORE extreme. . . . The point is that people were getting screwed under Bush, and they were getting screwed under Obama, AND THEY KNEW IT, despite all of the happy-talk and phonied-up statistics. The entire west coast has a homelessness crisis. We are in the middle of an opioid epidemic. A large portion of America is quietly drinking itself to death. Health insurance is totally unaffordable for about a quarter of America, but not to worry! Big pharma is making higher profits than ever before! More people are living in their cars than even before. A full quarter of Americans are food-insecure. And Hillary offered MORE OF THE SAME. Is it any wonder that about half of the voters of the USA revolted?? Trump may be a POS about some things, but the Dems need to offer up a real alternative, not just another flim-flam man like Obama. "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Thursday, August 9, 2018 3:09 PM
Quote:Homelessness crisis? Take it up with your governor.
Quote:A Survey of Americans and found most like a $15 Minimum Wage, Free College, and Universal Health Care.
Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Homelessness crisis? Take it up with your governor. This is not a "California" problem. Seattle and Portland are also affected. Quote:A Survey of Americans and found most like a $15 Minimum Wage, Free College, and Universal Health Care. How do we keep "free" college and universal health care from becoming just another gift of tax money to the corporations? Because looking at how Medicare Part D and Obamacare operate, that's all it's become. And what do you think of our place in the "globalist" world? Are you for it, or for national sovereignty? "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:23 PM
Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:24 PM
Quote:Wow, as the evidence begins to grow against Trump, it's astounding that sig thinks if she continues to play both sides, she will be remembered as being on the right side of the debates. That she can assert plausible deniability to her actually supporting Trump. Not so comrade... SIG from posts that show she plays both sides. Whenever she does she always has Trump as the better candidate. To do this she has to completely demonize Hillary. Remember that Hillary always suffers SIG's wrath. When it comes to Trump it's always yeah but... - THUGR Let me walk you thru my reasoning AGAIN. Maybe it will help this time. I fully acknowledge that Trump is a member of an elite; the nationalist elite. But Bill, Hillary, and Hussein ALSO do an elite's bidding, in their case, the globalist elite. The question is ... which elite is going to do you the most harm? The globalists want to eliminate the sovereignty of all nations. They want banks and trade tribunals and corporate consortia to make the rules. Those entities will tell you how to manage your government's budget, how to manage your currency, what you will invest in, what you will produce, what kind of environmental and labor and wage standards you'll follow, whether or not your government will impose "austerity" on its people, how many migrants and refugees you'll accept, what wars you'll participate in, which (other) nations you'll sanction etc. They do this by binding nations into "free trade" agreements which are adjudicated in secret meetings, "alliances" which require military support, and banking agreements with the BIS, IMF, and World Bank. NOTE THAT THEY SUBVERT ANY PRETENSE OF DEMOCRATIC SELF-DETERMINATION OF THE AFFECTED NATIONS. THIS IS NOT A SECRET. If you want to look at a model of how this works, just look at how the IMF treats its debtor nations, whose populations are squeezed to the wall for repayment money. But if you want an even sharper look at how this works, look at GREECE. Their government took improvident loans (with Goldman's help) and now that the nation has to repay those loans, the "Troika" has kept Greece on life support, lending just enough to keep Greece from going completely bankrupt (and funneling tax money to the German, Nederlander and Finnish banks that were the original lenders in the process) but not enough to actually jump-start the economy to raise revenues to be able to repay those loans without robbing from the average citizen. So what is the Greek government allowed to do? Well, it's not allowed to invest in infrastructure (in fact, they're required to sell off their money-making ports and airports), it's not allowed to continue pension payments to poor Greek citizens, it's not allowed to lower the value of its currency (because it shares the EU currency), it's not allowed to change its tax policy, it can't even reduce its military spending (because of NATO agreements) ... in other words, the Greek government has to do exactly whatever the lending banks tell it to do. Now, let's consider the United States. IF there was ever a nation whose debt load is extremely high, and whose real production is so low as to make those debts un-payable with real goods ... it's the USA. The only thing holding up the petrodollar recently has been our military: We made a point of destroying (or trying to destroy) any petro-nation that sought to break free of the petrodollar regime - Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Libya. The international banking structure, looking at the USA realistically, must realize that our currency is floating on nothing but hot air. If there was ever an economy that made itself ripe for the picking, it's us. I FRANKLY DO NOT WANT TO BE IN THE CLUTCHES OF THE GLOBALISTS WHEN THAT HAPPENS. Several years ago, in a discussion with BYTEMITE, I just mentally and emotionally landed on the "nationalist" side of the fence. A nation simply cannot solve its problems if it gives up its sovereign powers ... the ability to control its borders and determine its economic and foreign policies. Once you give up your authority to entities over which you have not even theoretical democratic control, you will be flayed alive without anesthesia on the altar of international finance, and bled for as long as they can keep you alive. And when they can no longer wring any more blood or flecks of tissue, they will swoop in and pick off your real assets ... land, buildings, parks, water, oil, fisheries, and you'll be dumped on the trash heap. Trump is a flawed President in so many ways. But he understands some important things very clearly, and his election saved us from making fateful and - I believe- fatal decisions for our nation.
Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I just wanted to make sure that this didn't get lost in SECOND's endless whinging about trivialities.
Thursday, August 9, 2018 7:15 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Thursday, August 9, 2018 10:30 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Thursday, August 9, 2018 10:32 PM
Thursday, August 9, 2018 10:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "How is this PoS still in office?" Because we don't (yet) allow open coups, military juntas, or armed revolt. Do you have a problem with that?
Friday, August 10, 2018 12:22 AM
REAVERFAN
Friday, August 10, 2018 12:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: http://www.shadowstats.com/ COOL! It's going into my stash of useful links.
Friday, August 10, 2018 2:11 AM
Friday, August 10, 2018 2:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: You're arguing with a nihilistic redneck and 3 ... trolls.
Friday, August 10, 2018 2:57 AM
Quote:I just wanted to make sure that this didn't get lost in SECOND's endless whinging about trivialities. - SIGNY Cutting through your ignorant crap, Signym, Greece made the mistake of switching to the Euro from the Drachma. They were told repeatedly that was a giant mistake before doing it. Yanis Varoufakis, a Greek economist, has explained it in simple English many times with many details in his books. - SECOND
Quote:I wish I could be certain that America will never drop the dollar for some international unit of currency, but if a foolish Congress approved, eventually it would be a Greek level disaster.
Friday, August 10, 2018 4:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: http://www.shadowstats.com/ COOL! It's going into my stash of useful links. THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
Friday, August 10, 2018 6:10 AM
Friday, August 10, 2018 7:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Sorry to burst your bubble JSF, but those numbers have no real meaning anymore after Obama's quantitative easing. It's all monopoly money now. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, August 10, 2018 8:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Sorry to burst your bubble JSF, but those numbers have no real meaning anymore after Obama's quantitative easing. It's all monopoly money now. Do Right, Be Right. :)The GDP figures are % changes, not $ values. And I don't think Unemployment numbers are revalued due to QE.
Friday, August 10, 2018 8:54 AM
Friday, August 10, 2018 9:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Meanwhile, today... - Trump plays golf. Which I think is good - he has less opportunity to f*ck things up from a fairway.
Friday, August 10, 2018 11:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "How is this PoS still in office?" Because we don't (yet) allow open coups, military juntas, or armed revolt. Do you have a problem with that? Post of the week. Maybe even the month.
Friday, August 10, 2018 11:43 AM
Friday, August 10, 2018 12:16 PM
Friday, August 10, 2018 12:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "How is this PoS still in office?" Because we don't (yet) allow open coups, military juntas, or armed revolt. Do you have a problem with that? Post of the week. Maybe even the month. Wrong, or wrong headed anyway. I wouldn't expect anything else from a russian troll and a moron. Trump is still in office because we have laws in this country. Something Trump is trying his hardest to change with the support of the likes of our russian troll and moron. T
Friday, August 10, 2018 12:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Sorry to burst your bubble JSF, but those numbers have no real meaning anymore after Obama's quantitative easing. It's all monopoly money now.
Friday, August 10, 2018 12:55 PM
Friday, August 10, 2018 5:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Obama and Clinton Obama and Clinton. Look up and you'll see some who are so panicked they are desperate to change the subject. Why in gods name with all that's going on would anyone want to talk about two people who are no longer in government? Desperation is why. Hey everyone look over here because my guy is so fucked up and corrupt I can't defend him. I need for you to engage with me on a different topic as I attempt to distract you and keep you from seeing just how fucked up Trump is. T
Friday, August 10, 2018 5:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Meanwhile, today... - Trump plays golf. Which I think is good - he has less opportunity to f*ck things up from a fairway. Trump tweets and brags about being only the 5th person to ever have a recorded Condor, but Omorosa "may have been" lurking deep in the rough and have video proof that it was really a Double Bogie. Sources close to the President say that a joint task force of Trump's best men are doing whatever in their power to recover this evidence. Omorosa has been missing for hours now, and since the video has not leaked onto the internet as of the time of this reporting, it is assumed that Putin himself has even gotten involved, using the very same Russian technology that hacked our election to force Omorosa's phone into Airplane mode. Muller is investigating. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, August 10, 2018 6:28 PM
Friday, August 10, 2018 7:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I did! But I had to look up "condor" in golf. Condor??? How the hell did you dig up THAT reference?
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