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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's a question that I've asked over and over, that nobody has answered.

For the purposes of definition, "America" is the land inside the borders of the self-defined nation-state of the United States of America, and "Americans" are citizens of that nation.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: ANOTHER second-hand post from a second-rate thinker??? Why don't you post YOUR OWN thoughts instead of someone else's? Or are you so thoroughly propagandized that you don't have any of your own?

Donald Trump was elected. And the fact that you keep bitching and whining about it just proves that you hate America and are trying to bring down its democratic institutions. So good on YOU, commie troll!!

BUT, if you can manage to post YOUR OWN THOUGHTS (if you have any) and can manage NOT to bitch about Trump (like you do endlessly) and actually address THE TOPIC then maybe we can have a discussion!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECONDHAND/SECONDRATE: THIS IS NOT THE THREAD YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP.

I REALIZE THAT YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR AMERICA-HATING PROPAGANDA INTO AS MANY THREADS AS POSSIBLE. YOU FIND IT SO DIFFICULT TO TALK ABOUT AMERICA WITH PRIDE AND CARE BECAUSE YOU ARE ONLY CONCERNED WITH YOUR OWN GROUP OF NEO-LIBERALOIDS. THAT IS WHY I'M NOT RESPONDING TO YOUR POSTS, COMRADE TROLL.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECONDHAND/SECONDRATE:

1) First of all, just because you didn't supply a link doesn't mean that your post is your own writing. I don't believe you wrote that. I doubt you can respond INTELLIGENTLY to any questions about that post because it is not a product of your own mind.

2) "It is in America's Interest to not delay Trump's trial"

Is it? Why? How? WHO is this good for, and who is it not good for?

My god, you have the focus of a flea. The fact that you are willing to ignore and dismiss the interests of roughly half of Americans was the reason why you Hiltery-ites lost the election, and demonstrates once again that you hate America, and furthermore, you hate an awful lot of Americans. So good in you, comrade-toll, for hating democracy!

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It took all of 4 posts until trolled: = GSTRING

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It is in America's Interests (the title of Signym's thread) to know before Trump is inaugurated if he is a fraud or not.= SECONDHAND/SECONDRATE

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Ha! You think I care what you type or think or feel? You only make yourself look bad so bring it! The more the better. Let your full hate out!=GSTRING

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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It is in America's Interests (the title of Signym's thread) to know before Trump is inaugurated if he is a fraud or not.= SECONDHAND/SECONDRATE

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So speaking of degenerate-America-hating trolls...

I think it''s in America's greater interests to have Hitlery and her sexual predator partner testify UNDER OATH about their email, Foundation, and pay-to-play dealings, don't you? I mean, what is of more importance? To know about Hitlery's backdoor dealings with her biggest supporter and fan club, Saudi Arabia, whose asshole we seem to have our State Dept/ CIA nose stuck in for the past 8 years??

Talk about being anti-American!

And you were her big supporter which- in my book- makes you anti-American too. My god, you just can't get over losing, can you? You're one of those "generation snowflake"-types who makes a career out of feigning victimization! Suck it up, you anti-American troll, you.

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Hitlery did willingly testify to Congress.- SECONDRATE

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I have another American interest story for Sygnym. It certainly interests me:

It's not clear that the GOP leadership is on board with Trump, who could be impeached by a Republican Congress that would prefer a President Mike Pence — someone who establishment Republicans know and trust. - SECOND

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
second . . . your beloved 'democratic' party - whose asshole your mouth has been so firmly pressed against, eating up all the party shit and spewing it back out here - lost . . . You tell ME second -

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
No wonder your posts are so stupid. You don't understand the 99% people of any party so you couldn't effectively argue a side. And you certainly can't afford any real disruption in the system. Game changers like Bernie are far too threatening to your way of life so you dismissed him out of hand.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Hey Jack

If you haven't already, how about you put down the bottle and go to bed, OK?

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second . . . your beloved 'democratic' party - whose asshole your mouth has been so firmly pressed against, eating up all the party shit and spewing it back out here - lost . . . You tell ME second - How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly? - KIKI

What you want to read is The whole Democratic Party is now a smoking pile of rubble by Matthew Yglesias. He is a Dem:
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/10/13576488/democratic-party-s
moking-pile-rubble= SECOND

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More broadly, the Obama-Clinton style of liberal incrementalism promised that while it wouldn’t deliver utopia, it would deliver wins and concrete results. And for a while, it did.

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To make its comeback, what’s left of the Democratic Party establishment — not just its elected officials but the leaders of its aligned institutions and its major donors — need to recognize that a strategy [aiming at the Presidency] they believed was working as recently as Tuesday afternoon has in fact failed quite badly.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

But this isn't a Dem v GOP issue, because the Repub party faces the same problem: It's leadership is tied to the wealthy just as much as the Dems, and if the GOP- with Trump as its new mascot- fails to bring meaningful improvement to people's lives, all hell will break loose - again.

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*raises hand* When can I disagree?- G

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Define "respectful." heh

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You can't put everyone in the same static, hierarchical triangle. FAIL. That's what both parties did. FAIL. That is to me the lazy man's way to try and achieve Understanding.

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1kiki is not acknowledging that 99% of Republicans can't argue convincingly for Trump.

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But wasn't Trump also 1kiki's game changer? Trump would change the way the USA handles foreign policy and save the world from Hillary and WWIII.

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And Bernie would change the game in domestic policy, according to 1kiki.

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Small footnote: 1kiki might not have noticed, but Bernie lost the Democratic primary by 4 million votes. Hillary is ahead of Trump by a million votes.

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The crooked electoral college will take away Hillary's victory. I think the college would do the same to Bernie. Never forget, Bernie lost the primary by 4 million votes, Hillary won the general election by a million.

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