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Monday, July 25, 2016 12:55 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:It was so easy to come to that conclusion by googling ‘will increasing tariffs increase manufacturing jobs?’
Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:45 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: http://crooksandliars.com/2016/07/who-better-laura-ingraham-fly-nazi-salute
Tuesday, July 26, 2016 11:43 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:It was so easy to come to that conclusion by googling ‘will increasing tariffs increase manufacturing jobs?’ The first dip was NAFTA (Clinton), the second (much larger) dip was China's accession into the WTO (Bush). It's obvious - or it should be- where our manufacturing jobs went, and what caused that to happen. It you want to reverse the trend, you have to at least reverse the trade agreements that caused it to happen. If you can't do THAT (China in WTO), at least don't make it worse by signing on to more of the same.
Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:04 PM
Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Someone I used to work with years and years ago and haven't talked with in ages... tweeted this morning: "Raise your hand if you want Putin in the White House."
Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:34 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Thursday, July 28, 2016 5:45 AM
Quote:It was so easy to come to that conclusion by googling ‘will increasing tariffs increase manufacturing jobs?’ - SECOND
Quote:The first dip was NAFTA (Clinton), the second (much larger) dip was China's accession into the WTO (Bush). It's obvious - or it should be- where our manufacturing jobs went, and what caused that to happen. It you want to reverse the trend, you have to at least reverse the trade agreements that caused it to happen. If you can't do THAT (China in WTO), at least don't make it worse by signing on to more of the same.- SIGNY As usual Signym, your graph is shit. You can get a real graph with the real explanation: http://myf.red/g/64E0 US. Bureau of the Census, Value of Manufacturers' New Orders for All Manufacturing Industries. US. Bureau of Labor Statistics, All Employees: Manufacturing, July 26, 2016. Do you see the trend where employment in American manufacturing goes down and American production goes up? That’s why factory jobs are lost.
Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Aaaaaaand.... you misinterpreted your own graph. But yanno, you seem to think that the only answer is to exploit our workers, just as much as China does. Spoken like a true consumer.
Thursday, July 28, 2016 5:14 PM
Friday, July 29, 2016 5:39 AM
Quote:Damn, I always forget to make it explicit: Please tell us one more time, Signym and 1kiki, that Trump, the great disruptor, will bring back millions of American manufacturing jobs. All he will need do is change a few tariff laws and it will be a nearly cost-free way to create jobs, despite manufacturing needing fewer people every year because factories are more efficient every year and are producing more output than ever before and yet needing fewer and fewer employees on the assembly line.
Quote:Signym and 1kiki really need to get over the daydream that factory owners love and want to care for their employees in the USA. The employees wish it was true because their lives and their families depend on the job, while factory-owners depend on employees believing it is true so they can keep the factory running, but it has never been that way.
Quote:Mark Zandi, now the chief economist at the private research firm Moody's Analytics, has forecast that the Republican presidential nominee's policies would put almost 3.5 million Americans out of work after four years.
Friday, July 29, 2016 9:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: That's why capitalists need laws ... with teeth ... making them do what they don't want to do: give up some of those profits to their employees. YOUR way just makes it easier for capitalists to profit ever more handsomely.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Mark Zandi, now the chief economist at the private research firm Moody's Analytics, has forecast that the Republican presidential nominee's policies would put almost 3.5 million Americans out of work after four years. I have yet to see a mainstream economist forecast anything correctly. Ever. There are some shocking graphs which compare forecast to actual, which they constantly "revise" to meet actual and they STILL can't get it right!
Friday, July 29, 2016 9:54 AM
Friday, July 29, 2016 11:23 AM
Friday, July 29, 2016 2:05 PM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by second: If Trump Wins, Roe v. Wade Is ‘Ash Heap Of History’ Trump's V.P., Mike Pence, said Roe v. Wade, the U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, will be overturned after Donald Trump is elected president in November, Mlive.com reported. Answering a question from an audience member during a town hall in Grand Rapids, Michigan, the Indiana governor said a Republican win in the fall will lead to changes in the nation's highest court. Trump, in his supersalesman persona, has taken all sides (politely called in the media "inconsistent") on this issue, such that his supporters can believe whatever they want to believe. Trump's V.P. has chosen to believe the standard Republican position prevailing with Republican Senators who have the power to approve or block Trump's choices for Supreme Court justices. www.newsmax.com/TheWire/mike-pence-roe-wade-overturn-donald-trump/2016/07/29/id/741149/#ixzz4FoMaIcY7 http://indianapublicmedia.org/news/pence-trump-wins-roe-wade-ash-heap-history-102995/
Friday, July 29, 2016 4:53 PM
REAVERFAN
Monday, August 1, 2016 3:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: I've never seen such a disgusting person so close to the office. It's insane.
Monday, August 1, 2016 5:05 AM
Quote:The US Park Police had jurisdiction over the matter and concluded, in conjunction with the FBI, that it was a suicide. Later investigations by independent counsels Robert Fisk and Kenneth Starr concluded the same thing. When a depressed man is found dead in a park with no sign of a struggle and gun residue on his hand, the natural conclusion is suicide, and every subsequent piece of evidence confirmed that finding. Depression plus easy access to firearms lead to an avoidable death, as it all too often does in the United States.
Quote:Investigators have also been trying to determine whether Mrs. Clinton sought to block Justice Department lawyers from examining files in Mr. Foster's office in the days after his death. White House aides searched the office and brought files to the Clintons' private residence before allowing investigators to look at them.
Quote:After nearly two years of searches and subpoenas, the White House said this evening that it had unexpectedly discovered copies of missing documents from Hillary Rodham Clinton's law firm that describe her work for a failing savings and loan association in the 1980's.
Quote:... [The] chairman of the Senate Whitewater committee, was referring to the disclosure on Thursday of a two-year-old memorandum written by a former Presidential aide. The memorandum said that Mrs. Clinton had played a far greater role in the dismissal of employees of the White House travel office than the Administration has acknowledged.
Monday, August 1, 2016 8:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SHADES OF 33,000 MISSING EMAILS! Hillary has a habit, of "disappearing" documents which might detail illegal or unethical work, doesn't she?
Monday, August 1, 2016 4:20 PM
Monday, August 1, 2016 4:57 PM
Monday, August 1, 2016 5:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: I'd like to introduce you to the newest member of the GOP. Mitch, Paul, this is SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: According to some, Vince Foster was "bullied to death" by Hillary, because she mercilessly tore him part in front of others at a time when he was depressed and vulnerable. A fragment of a suicide note was later "discovered" by Hillary's staff. I wonder, if the whole thing had been found, would it have had Hillary's name on it? Your desperation is pretty funny. Going 20+ years back to dig up something negative. Obviously, she killed him with her brain. Next you'll be chanting "Lock her up!" followed by a rousing chorus of "Hawkish!" "Hillary's War!" "20,000 Emails!" Naturally, Trump supporters can't keep more than 3 word thoughts in their brains. Interesting to see that Hillary is doing the worst with white males with only basic education. Hello Trump supporters!
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: According to some, Vince Foster was "bullied to death" by Hillary, because she mercilessly tore him part in front of others at a time when he was depressed and vulnerable. A fragment of a suicide note was later "discovered" by Hillary's staff. I wonder, if the whole thing had been found, would it have had Hillary's name on it?
Monday, August 1, 2016 5:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: The facts about the real world are to her smaller and less vital than maintaining her image of capability. It makes me nervous. And if you're a sane person, it would make you nervous, too.
Monday, August 1, 2016 5:20 PM
Monday, August 1, 2016 5:27 PM
Monday, August 1, 2016 5:29 PM
Monday, August 1, 2016 6:25 PM
Monday, August 1, 2016 7:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Care to address the magnitude of her lies second-rate, which was the point of my post? Here is the point I made - posted for you, again - so it doesn't get lost in your mental fog. It's that she has a decades-long history of lying about her non-existent computer security both on her private (US national security) server and the DNC server. And she has a decades-long history of lying about her positions on free-trade agreements. And she has a decades-long history of lying about Libya, and Ukraine, and Syria ... and Russia. And about what she really said during her half-a-million dollar speeches.
Monday, August 1, 2016 7:08 PM
Monday, August 1, 2016 7:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "I'd didn't even listen to her speeches. Or anybody's speeches at the Dem Convention. Instead I watched a recording of Stephen Colbert's coverage ..." Because Colbert is news? Is that WHY you're so deliciously fact-free second-rate?
Monday, August 1, 2016 7:16 PM
Monday, August 1, 2016 7:19 PM
Monday, August 1, 2016 7:25 PM
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 12:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: But you'll ignore all that, second-rate, and every other negative fact posted about Hillary. Fortunately, some people - not you of course - can understand that Donald's personal shortcomings don't excuse Hillary's global ones.
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 12:28 AM
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 12:47 AM
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 12:53 AM
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:56 AM
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 5:37 AM
Quote:"And she has a decades-long history of lying about her positions on free-trade agreements. And she has a decades-long history of lying about Libya, and Ukraine, and Syria ... and Russia."- SIGNY Decades!? She served 4 years as Secretary of State. she "served as a U.S. senator (2001–09) and secretary of state (2009–13) in the administration of Pres. Barack Obama. She also served as first lady (1993–2001)"
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 12:54 PM
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 1:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So here's some more fun facts about Hillary, which I'm putting here second-rate, because you keep running away from the Hillary thread for some strange reason: Sorted by topic rather than date, to make it easier to see her reversals AND LIES. http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/04/21/401123124/a-time line-of-hillary-clintons-evolution-on-trade 1993: NAFTA Dec 8 1993 Signed into law by President Bill Clinton Takes effect Jan. 1, 1994. 1996: NAFTA pro "I think everybody is in favor of free and fair trade. I think NAFTA is proving its worth." (March 6, 1996: At an event for the UNITE union at the Nicole Miller company in New York.) 1998: NAFTA pro "Now again, I have to conclude that either American business doesn't care about opening markets around the world — Now when the President comes back to the Congress with a request for fast track authority I hope that American business voices will be heard. Having said that, I would add that there does need to be sensitivity to worker and environmental concerns in trade agreements going forward in the future. So I think that there may be some good reason for business to engage early with labor and with political leadership in Congress and the Administration ... but certainly that will not happen in the absence of some very stated and obvious business concern." (Feb. 2, 1998: Remarks at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.) 2000: NAFTA blame-shifting "What happened to NAFTA, I think, was we inherited an agreement that we didn't get everything we should have got out of it in my opinion." (March 26, 2000: Before the Working Families Party, per Clinton 2008 campaign.) 2003: NAFTA blame-shifting "Although unpopular with labor unions, expanding trade opportunities was an important administration goal." (From Clinton's first memoir, Living History. She was arguing that the Clinton administration could do both health care and NAFTA at once, but Bill Clinton and his advisers did not think so.) 2004: NAFTA blame-Canada! "I think on balance NAFTA has been good for New York and America, but I also think that there are a number of areas where we're not dealt with in an upfront way in dealing with our friend to the north, Canada, which seems to be able to come up with a number of rationales for keeping New York agricultural products out of Canada." (Jan. 5, 2004: Via teleconference.) 2007: NAFTA outright lie, Bill Clinton could have vetoed it "NAFTA was inherited by the Clinton Administration." (Feb. 1, 2007: Time interview.) 2007: NAFTA equivocal (it's not bad, it just wasn't done the right way) "Look, NAFTA did not do what many had hoped, and so we do need to take a look at it and we do need to figure out how we're going to have trade relations that are smart..." (Nov. 15, 2007: During a CNN debate) 2008: NAFTA anti "NAFTA was negotiated more than 14 years ago, and Hillary believes it has not lived up to its promises." (On Clinton's campaign website.) 2008: NAFTA outright lie "You know, I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning" (Feb. 26, 2008: During an NBC debate. 2008: United States—Colombia Trade Promotion Agreement (TPA) anti "As I have said for months, I oppose the deal. I have spoken out against the deal, I will vote against the deal, and I will do everything I can to urge the Congress to reject the Colombia Free Trade Agreement." (April 8, 2008: Before the Communications Workers of America. Her husband was in favor of it, her campaign had to distance her from his position, and her senior strategist Mark Penn was demoted because of ties to Colombia through his communications firm.) 2010: United States—Colombia Trade Promotion Agreement (TPA) pro "First, let me underscore President Obama's and my commitment to the Free Trade Agreement." (June 11, 2010: On RCN Television. She also flew her husband in for dinner in Bogota, Colombia, with key players. Bill Clinton has always been in favor; his foundation has taken money from people with business interests there, as reported and written about in a forthcoming book by Peter Schweizer.) 2007: U.S.-Korea Trade Agreement anti "While I value the strong relationship the United States enjoys with South Korea, I believe that this agreement is inherently unfair. It will hurt the U.S. auto industry, increase our trade deficit, cost us good middle-class jobs and make America less competitive." (June 9, 2007: Clinton before AFL-CIO confederation.) 2011: U.S.-Korea Trade Agreement pro "This is a priority for me, for President Obama and for the entire administration. We are determined to get it done, and I believe we will." (April 16, 2011: In a talk to a business group in Seoul, South Korea.) 2012: TPP pro "We need to keep upping our game both bilaterally and with partners across the region through agreements like the Trans-Pacific Partnership or TPP. ... This TPP sets the gold standard in trade agreements to open free, transparent, fair trade, the kind of environment that has the rule of law and a level playing field." (Nov. 15, 2012: Comments in Australia.) 2014: TPP pro "One of our most important tools for engaging with Vietnam was a proposed new trade agreement called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)..." (From her second memoir, Hard Choices.) 2015: TPP pro with reservations "She will be watching closely to see what is being done to crack down on currency manipulation, improve labor rights, protect the environment and health, promote transparency and open new opportunities for our small businesses to export overseas." (Campaign statement from aide Nick Merrill.)
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 1:22 PM
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 2:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Retiring Rep. Richard Hanna (R-N.Y.) on Tuesday announced he will vote for Hillary Clinton in November because Donald Trump is “unfit to serve our party and cannot lead this country.”
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 4:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Richard Hanna Becomes First Republican Congressman To Say He’ll Vote For Retiring Rep. Richard Hanna (R-N.Y.) on Tuesday announced he will vote for Hillary Clinton in November because Donald Trump is “unfit to serve our party and cannot lead this country.”Hillary Clinton http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/richard-hanna-hillary-clinton_us_57a08f42e4b08a8e8b5f45ba?section=& ____________________________________________ Wow - the stones on that guy - good for him. I hate to get too far ahead, but Trump's recent comments seem to have started something. Wouldn't it be something if it was an older, silent Muslim women who was his undoing? I expect many, many more vicious attacks on Hillary's everything.
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Richard Hanna Becomes First Republican Congressman To Say He’ll Vote For Retiring Rep. Richard Hanna (R-N.Y.) on Tuesday announced he will vote for Hillary Clinton in November because Donald Trump is “unfit to serve our party and cannot lead this country.”Hillary Clinton http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/richard-hanna-hillary-clinton_us_57a08f42e4b08a8e8b5f45ba?section=& ____________________________________________
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 4:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Sally Bradshaw, Longtime GOP Consultant, Advisor To Jeb Bush, Leaves The GOP Over Donald Trump In a written statement to CNN, Bradshaw says she had been considering the switch for months, and that she could not abide by "the hateful rhetoric of Donald Trump and his complete lack of principles and conservative philosophy.” She also told the cable network that, “too many Republicans are standing by and looking the other way.” And she adds she may vote for Hilary Clinton if the election is close. http://news.wgcu.org/post/sally-bradshaw-longtime-gop-consultant-advisor-jeb-bush-leaves-gop-over-donald-trump I'm getting an image of Trump red faced and boiling mad and several of his aids holding him back from his Twitter account. "You'll just make it worse, OJ (Orange Jesus)!"
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Sally Bradshaw, Longtime GOP Consultant, Advisor To Jeb Bush, Leaves The GOP Over Donald Trump In a written statement to CNN, Bradshaw says she had been considering the switch for months, and that she could not abide by "the hateful rhetoric of Donald Trump and his complete lack of principles and conservative philosophy.” She also told the cable network that, “too many Republicans are standing by and looking the other way.” And she adds she may vote for Hilary Clinton if the election is close. http://news.wgcu.org/post/sally-bradshaw-longtime-gop-consultant-advisor-jeb-bush-leaves-gop-over-donald-trump
Tuesday, August 2, 2016 9:36 PM
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 12:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Trump Bolsters Foreign-Policy Team by Adding Carson and Palin By Andy Borowitz , August 2, 2016 www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-bolsters-foreign-policy-team-by-adding-carson-and-palin NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—After stumbling badly on an interview question about Ukraine, the Republican Presidential nominee Donald Trump attempted on Tuesday to reassure voters about his geopolitical expertise by adding the retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson and the former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to his team of foreign-policy advisers. “Donald Trump always said that, as President, he would surround himself with the best people,” Trump’s spokesperson, Hope Hicks, said. “In Governor Palin and Dr. Carson, Mr. Trump now has the Dream Team.” Speaking to reporters, Palin dismissed the controversy over Ukraine as “much ado about a gotcha question.” “Donald Trump is one hundred and ten percent correct when he says that no one needs to be worrying about Ukraine,” she said. “If you look Ukraine up on Google Maps, like I just did, it’s right where it’s always been.” Dr. Carson said that, as President, Donald Trump would support the territorial integrity of Ukraine and “its magnificent network of underground grain tunnels.” “I cannot overemphasize the importance of Ukraine’s grain pipeline,” he said. “If you choke off Ukraine, Europe cannot bake bread.” Trump’s spokesperson said that the additions to his foreign-policy brain trust should give voters “great confidence” that a Trump White House would be equal to the challenge of an international crisis. “When that 3 A.M. call comes in, and Mr. Trump is busy on Twitter, Dr. Carson and Governor Palin will be there to take the call,” she said. Andy Borowitz is a New York Times best-selling author and a comedian who has written for The New Yorker since 1998. He writes the Borowitz Report for newyorker.com. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 3:54 AM
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 8:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: This election is over. This proves his stupidity and how dangerous it would be to elect this moron to anything. If the Republican party doesn't split from Trump they are doomed as well.
Wednesday, August 3, 2016 9:32 AM
Quote:If I were Putin, I would try to put another Trump brand bullet or two in the six-shooter in hopes that the USA would pull the trigger.
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