What happened to music? by kaneman

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What happened to music?

POSTED BY: KANEMAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 24, 2025 13:27
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Tuesday, May 20, 2025 6:11 PM

Kid Cudi called to testify at Diddy trial

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/music-news/kid-cudi-testify-sea
n-diddy-combs-trial-cassie-ventura-1236223083/

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Tuesday, May 20, 2025 9:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I'm not going to pretend that I have any idea who Kid Cudi is.

I love that about getting old. Not just the not caring about current pop culture in the least, but actually being proud about that fact.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 7:08 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

punishing Russia with Japanese Baby Metal

The song is a collaboration with Russian deathcore band Slaughter to Prevail, and as the name suggests

currently based in Orlando, Florida, where the members moved in 2022 after speaking out against the Russian invasion of Ukraine

Parody

Big Trouble in Little China ... Lo Pan Style

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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 8:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

"What happened to music?"

Lipps Inc was the first rap, with Funkytown. Around 1979, IIRC.

Rap and music are mutually exclusive terms.

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Saturday, May 31, 2025 6:41 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

5 missing musicians found dead near U.S. border in Mexico; alleged cartel members arrested
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/musicians-dead-near-us-border-mexico-cart
el-members-arrested/

men were kidnapped while traveling on the way to a venue where they were hired to play.

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Sunday, June 1, 2025 2:29 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

I heard that Morgan Whallen hit some milestones. He had 10 songs in the Top 10 on something like the Billboard Country charts.
The 2nd artist to do that on ANY Chart. Taylor Swift once had 14 songs in the Top 14 spots.

Morgan also had 37 songs in the Hot 100 Chart, a record. Broke his previous record of 36 back in 2023.

I doubt I've heard 37 of his songs. I don't know of any that I like.

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Tuesday, June 10, 2025 6:09 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

old music got timeless

Bach Toccata and Fugue in D minor

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Friday, June 20, 2025 11:30 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Baroque and roll

https://www.yellowad.co.uk/baroque-and-roll/

Bernstein Art of Conducting

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Sunday, June 22, 2025 11:23 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

post 9-11 they got rid of all the Anti-War lyrics?

but sometimes you don't even need a lyric...just get a groove started...
GIMMIE SHELTER - CHARLIE WATTS ISOLATED DRUMS

Metallica One

Edwin Starr, War, Huh! Yeah! War ..What is it good for

Buffy Sainte-Marie Universal Soldier

99 Luftballons

Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son

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Monday, June 23, 2025 10:11 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

some Persia music guy name Aidin Nazemi

Sur les toits de Téhéran, Aidin Nazemi interprète la célèbre chanson "Zombie" des Cranberries

https://vk.com/wall-215007780_12771

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Tuesday, June 24, 2025 12:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thanks for sharing that. Cool rendition of that song. I always liked The Cranberries, even though I had no idea what they were singing about at the time when they were somewhat mainstream there for a while. I doubt many Americans did, TBH... The pre-internet days were something else, huh?

Heard this one for the first time in years the other day. I always loved this song...

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Tuesday, June 24, 2025 12:16 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Another good jam from right around the same time. Love the harmony of The Shins. One of the few bands I can actually listen to the entire album.

*I believe it's "Beats Circus Slime", but I might be wrong. Don't think it's citrus slime.

hmmmmmmmm......

"Be it silk or slime?"

I've heard this song so many times before and I always thought I knew what the lyrics were.

"Too far along in our climb" for sure, but that second part they say "Too far along in our CRIME".

And that lyric "Stepping over, what now towers to the sky" is not what I thought it was before. I don't know exactly what it is they're referring to, but that's some pretty awesome prose right there.

And I always thought it was "and we're often in Marcus' porch again"...

Who wouldn't think that when you've never even heard the name "Nemarca" before.

"We're off to Nemarca's Porch again".

Quote:
The lyrical ambiguity of "Phantom Limb" by the Shins lends itself to many interpretations... But one thing is certain, going off to Nemarca's porch comes from a fan's request that Shins leader, singer/guitarist James Mercer, build her unusual name into a song.

And I don't even know if any of this is true.

But I do know it's "Goat's head" and not "Gold head"

I love mysterious shit like this. It's why Yellow Ledbetter has been a favorite of mine since the first time I heard it on the radio back in high school.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Tuesday, June 24, 2025 1:27 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I think it's about a boy and a girl or two girls in school. And they're not popular. I don't think they get beat downs or anything, but "cheap shots from the tribe" sounds like being picked on verbally by the popular kids.

"The phantom and the fly".

"following the lines" but "wondering why"... Good questions to ask when you're that young. Questions you probably don't ask that young unless you've already faced some real adversity. School bullies... divorced parents and crappy home life to go back to when you leave school. You don't want to be at school, but you really don't have anywhere else you particularly care to be, either.

"Namarca's porch"... A safe space. Maybe a younger aunt or older cousin that talks to you like adults and would kick the shit out of the bullies if they ever did anything beyond the name calling... Or at least she makes them believe she could.

"Monday heads" or "Mundane heads" to go along with "Sunday heads"

Drugs maybe? Definitely drinking at some point.

"When they tap our Sunday, Monday/Mundane heads"... "Two zombies walk in our stead."

"This town seems hardly worth our time"... No more need for the town? No... wait... Is it Town or Tower? It sounds like Tower the first time, but Town the 2nd time.

"No longer memorize or rhyme"... No more need for school?

Foreign land with the sprayed on tans... be it silk or slime... I don't even know.

This song might be a hell of a lot darker than the vibe makes it feel. Kinda like Pumped up Kicks maybe?

So phantom limb... related to the phantom and a fly lyric. Or there's no connection?

No connection. Yeah. No connection is the connection there... somehow. Losing the limb but still feeling like it's there and a part of you even though there's no connection. The title of the song means something.

No more tethers? To the town hardly worth their time? To school and to learning? "Stepping over what now towers to the sky?". The world itself?

The world itself still feeling like it's a part of you even though you've left it behind? Or it's left you behind?

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Tuesday, June 24, 2025 1:42 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

"no connection"...

I think they're talking about the official video...

Unless there's some meaning hidden deep in there somewhere, I have no idea how this video would give you any clues to the mystery of the lyrics.

Unless I'm right about the whole song being darker than it leads on. Lots of death in that play.

And the change from "Too far along in our climb" to "Too far along in our crime" at the end of the song...

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Tuesday, June 24, 2025 2:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Oh shit...

I saw on another lyric video some crazy stuff that I remember reading somebody on a thread claim the lyrics were... but that was going on 20 years ago and I just thought they were full of shit.

I always thought the lyrics were "The Ancient Snow"...

No...

It's "The EHS Norm". EHS.... "Something/Somewhere High School". That blows a lot of the beginning open... but not all of it.

Still don't get that first line.

"Frozen Winter Coats"?... (probably not)... "Frozen in two Coats"? (possibly... the two the song are mainly about?)... "Foals in Winter Coats" (I think that's probably right... because of the following lyrics)...

*Foal is a young horse...

Foals in winter coats.
White girls of the North. (Not sure what the "North" is a reference to specifically, but I have my suspicions...).
File past one, five and one...

...

First, the "White girls of the North"...

The boy/girl or girl/girl main characters are likely Mexican or Cuban. The "White Girls of the North" are just that. White, American girls. Likely cheerleaders, in their letterman jackets. If you recall, later in the song, when they're looking at the Family Portrait it was "Circa '95". Schools are really mixed today, sure, but they weren't back in 1995. We only had one or two cheerleaders that weren't white depending on the year when I was there.

Then again, it's not like I noticed much of that because by that point in time I was my own phantom and a fly and outside of Wrestling (a one on one sport first and foremost in my mind), I wanted nothing to do with any extracurricular activities myself. I actively avoided them. I couldn't even understand people who wanted to be involved in them or why they would even want to? Never really gave much thought about the people who actually longed to be one of them? It was just them and everyone else to me.

So hear me out on this one... "File past one, five and one..."

Herd culture of the popular kids. Could just be 7 foals walking past them as they "skirt the hallway sides" and get out of the way as the "Phantom and the Fly" they prefer to be, rather than get their attention for any reason and probably be singled out for more verbal bullying bullying in front of everyone else.

The inevitable Prom Queen, with her 5 Heathers in tow... gabbing to each other in a straight line down the middle, taking up most of the hallway between the rows of lockers, maybe the chubby One they keep around to beat up pulling up the rear?

I don't believe that there are any boys in this scenario walking down the hall with them. Though "Foal" doesn't specify a male or female, the lyric was "White Girls" of The North.

The "The Fabled Lambs... The Sunday Ham". The prize.

OH... WAIT....

"EHS"... It's not a reference to a specific high school...

It's EVERY High School... Back in 1995.

"The EHS Norm"

(This is all obviously a very "Hollywood" exaggerated scenario. At least in my Midwest school at the time... can't speak for other schools. We didn't have 7 female bullies walking down the hall like they owned the freakin' place, going out of their way to make life hell for everyone "beneath" them. Don't know what people said and did to each other outside of the hallways but I don't ever remember much drama between classes in the 4 years I was there. Everyone seemed to do a pretty good job of just knowing their roles and sticking to them, I guess. Maybe some people really felt this way about it and over the years made up drama in their past that didn't actually happen?)

Now I gotta work out "float about the grass" and the latency surrounding the hiding of that... and why she keeps hope alive that she can do it too one day.

No... That's not right either...

She doesn't say "To keep some hope alive, that a girl like I could ever try"

She says "To keep some hope, a lie, that a girl like I, could every try"

She already knows deep down it's never going to be. She is already defeated on the inside, but she's still looking for any reason to still cling onto that lie.

Is she speaking for her friend too? Is there even a friend? Are the Phantom and the Fly even two separate physical entities?

I believe, so far, these are the true lyrics...

Foals in Winter Coats.
White Girls of the North.
File past One, five and one.
They are the Fabled Lambs, the Sunday Ham, the EHS Norm.

And they can float above the grass...
In circles if they tried...
A latent power I know they hide...
To keep some hope, a lie, that a girl like I could ever try...

Could ever try.

So we just skirt the hallway sides... A Phantom and a Fly.
Follow the lines and wonder why, there's no connection.

I'm just lost on the idea of foals floating on the grass in circles and what that would mean specifically, or how it helps her keep some hope and that lie that she might do it one day too. I don't know what that means.

And I still don't get the connection of no connection other than the hogepodge of ideas I mentioned earlier.

I think I got "The Tribe" wrong earlier too.

I think that the cheap shots from "The Tribe" is crappy home life they go back to after school. "They"? The Phantom and the Fly. Nebulous as of yet if they are one or more than one person...

"...and weakened falling eyes"?

"... and cheap shots from The Tribe" (99.99% that is the lyric on this one)

Maybe the weakened falling eyes is the disappointment from the parents? Cheap shots from The Tribe might be the parent saying something shitty like "why can't you be more like your brother/sister"? and the brother/sister joining in on it and happily turning the screws just a little bit more?

"So they're off to Namarca's Porch again."

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Tuesday, June 24, 2025 1:27 PM

BRENDA

I like "Universal Soldier".

He's the Universal Soldier and he really is to blame
But his orders come from far away no more
They come from him and you and me
And brothers can't you see
This isn't the way to put an end to war

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