A recent newspaper report suggests that the ID system the`ve come up with is unable to identify bald headed men or people with brown eyes. Thats two ways I could `drop under the radar` so far.
I think this system is going to be yet another government ***** up!
It dont matter, Im still free. Because of government Stupiditee!

Oh and you might wanna look at this, very intersesting - sneeky fekkers.........
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/03/business_immigrant_checks/

Being in the UK I have been keeping an eye on this, infringement of civil liberties not withstanding - thought you might like to know that since Scotland has a devolved parliament now the ID card system even if compulsory in the rest of the UK won't be here! So when I apply for my new passport when the existing one runs out, I get to fork out what £80 for something I, living in Scotland am not going to need. The mind boggles. On the plus side, most of the computer systems that the government try to put into place usually don't work so it may never get off the ground.

The system that we have is better. There are no official id cards that way the government can do anything they want with all the information that they gather without official control. Fundamentally, you can't do anything useful without a social security number and a driver's license. The combination effectively makes an id card. The only reason anyone hasn't been able to use that information effectively has been the lack of coordination. The homeland security legislation effectively allows the coordination. Now it only lacks an effective coordinator and manager. I hope that this person is ethical when they appear.

[Quote]I am under the impression that this is not going to fly. [/Quote]

I wish you were right thatweirdgirl, but last night the government voted overwhlemingly to press ahead with this ridiculous scheme!

The scheme will not be compulsory (at first)... so I can't really understand how all the arguments "for" the scheme are going to work. Or do we assume that only criminals won't have cards?

We seem to have become a society where saying that one is against ID cards provokes a "you must have something to hide" reaction. I've had these circular conversations in the past.

By the way, this is the same government which is now proposing charging people tax per mile they drive in their cars (in addition to the horrendous fuel tax we already pay - our gas is about 7.50USD a gallon), and this will be done using tracking devices in the cars & sat nav.... how scary is that?

My kittens were microchipped when they were four weeks old.. maybe the next step is to have us all chipped at birth. Actually that was meant to be funny, but I realise as I write it that maybe it's not so far out after all.


Even if I accepted all the arguments FOR having national ID cards (which I don't), the Government's track record when it comes to systems implementations does not inspire me with confidence. It's just goig to be another complete shambles!

Grrr!

not a brit, but I try to keep up with what's going on over there. I am under the impression that this is not going to fly. It's quite difficult to do a national id card. There are so many privacy and control issues to consider.

oh, and this line is particularly funny:
(you know, free healthcare, decent pensions, no means testing, all the things that America as a civilised country/superpower doubtlessly has).