Losing our freedom to a card trick
Monday, December 20, 2004

Here in Britain, millions of us are currently rejoicing in a blind man's suffering. His career destroyed, his morality questioned and his name turned into a punchline for a thousand jokes. Are we sickos? Well, yes, but this is something with reason behind it.

David Blunkett is the blind man's name and until last week he was Home Secretary, the cabinet post for the person in charge of prisons, law and order, internal security, etc, etc. Currently in power is the Labour party, supposedly a left wing party (you know, free healthcare, decent pensions, no means testing, all the things that America as a civilised country/superpower doubtlessly has). But Blunkett has presided over some of the most right wing, restrictive, bordering on fascist policies. Many have attributed them as a post 9/11 reaction but rather Blunkett has long held these idea but it is only since the attacks that he's been able to put them forward as policy.

Top of the list is ID cards. In the UK we haven't had a central ID card system since the 1950's when the courts declared them an infringement on our rights. But once again, the Labour government is trying to introduce them, despite the protests and wishes of civil rights groups here. There are several complaints about them, most notably 1) they're a terrible infringement of citizens privacy and 2) they won't do any good. Spain for example has long had ID cards. Did that prevent the 3/11 attacks? Nope.

Unfortunately, despite the home secretary's departure (sex scandal, our favourite trick), the government is pushing on with their plans. I doubt they'll carry them through for several reasons: 1) they're impractical, 2) they're hugely expensive, 3) people like me are going to undermine the system. Compulsorary ID cards are the beginning of the end for civil rights. If anyone in any position of power can just click a button and know everything about you, you have no privacy, security or freedom. Even if you think you've done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, a united database will prove otherwise.

I think this ties in with Firefly nicely. The whole Alliance/Browncoats war was about freedom from a big tyranny. It's not as though the Browncoats were insisting on anarchy, they'd have had local governments but they refused to accept instructions from a remote power, oblivious and uncaring of their needs. Let's just hope the anti-cards movement has more success than the Browncoats, for all our sakes.


Friday, October 21, 2005 11:50 PM


A recent newspaper report suggests that the ID system the`ve come up with is unable to identify bald headed men or people with brown eyes. Thats two ways I could `drop under the radar` so far.
I think this system is going to be yet another government ***** up!
It dont matter, Im still free. Because of government Stupiditee!

Thursday, December 23, 2004 11:20 AM


Oh and you might wanna look at this, very intersesting - sneeky fekkers.........

Thursday, December 23, 2004 11:17 AM


Being in the UK I have been keeping an eye on this, infringement of civil liberties not withstanding - thought you might like to know that since Scotland has a devolved parliament now the ID card system even if compulsory in the rest of the UK won't be here! So when I apply for my new passport when the existing one runs out, I get to fork out what £80 for something I, living in Scotland am not going to need. The mind boggles. On the plus side, most of the computer systems that the government try to put into place usually don't work so it may never get off the ground.

Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:13 AM


The system that we have is better. There are no official id cards that way the government can do anything they want with all the information that they gather without official control. Fundamentally, you can't do anything useful without a social security number and a driver's license. The combination effectively makes an id card. The only reason anyone hasn't been able to use that information effectively has been the lack of coordination. The homeland security legislation effectively allows the coordination. Now it only lacks an effective coordinator and manager. I hope that this person is ethical when they appear.

Tuesday, December 21, 2004 8:16 AM


[Quote]I am under the impression that this is not going to fly. [/Quote]

I wish you were right thatweirdgirl, but last night the government voted overwhlemingly to press ahead with this ridiculous scheme!

The scheme will not be compulsory (at first)... so I can't really understand how all the arguments "for" the scheme are going to work. Or do we assume that only criminals won't have cards?

We seem to have become a society where saying that one is against ID cards provokes a "you must have something to hide" reaction. I've had these circular conversations in the past.

By the way, this is the same government which is now proposing charging people tax per mile they drive in their cars (in addition to the horrendous fuel tax we already pay - our gas is about 7.50USD a gallon), and this will be done using tracking devices in the cars & sat nav.... how scary is that?

My kittens were microchipped when they were four weeks old.. maybe the next step is to have us all chipped at birth. Actually that was meant to be funny, but I realise as I write it that maybe it's not so far out after all.

Even if I accepted all the arguments FOR having national ID cards (which I don't), the Government's track record when it comes to systems implementations does not inspire me with confidence. It's just goig to be another complete shambles!


Monday, December 20, 2004 6:41 PM


not a brit, but I try to keep up with what's going on over there. I am under the impression that this is not going to fly. It's quite difficult to do a national id card. There are so many privacy and control issues to consider.

oh, and this line is particularly funny:
(you know, free healthcare, decent pensions, no means testing, all the things that America as a civilised country/superpower doubtlessly has).


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