RP - Out of Character Commentary - "Badger's Betrayal" or "Adventures in Gunrunning"

POSTED BY: Astriana
UPDATED: Monday, January 19, 2004 16:42
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ASTRIANA

Friday, January 16, 2004 3:22 PM

Hey all! Channain had a lovely idea, so I'm putting it into action. This thread is where we're gonna put our OOC commentary for the "Badger's Betrayal" role play in the Firefly Universe. (Also known as "Adventures in Gunrunning" ~ maybe we'll pick a title before we're done! )

To get to the in-character RP thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=17&t=3356

Welcome to the backstage of our sandbox theater!

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

CHANNAIN

Friday, January 16, 2004 3:26 PM

shininess! Glad I was able to help.

I draw, therefore I am
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ASTRIANA

Friday, January 16, 2004 3:32 PM

LOL! I just realized something really cool! This is like our own version of an episode with cast commentary (like on the DVDs). That is shiny, spiffy, and cool! Yay! *happy dance*

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

ZACHSMIND

Friday, January 16, 2004 3:34 PM

Okay we can give this a try, but I reserve the opinion that there are times when a strategically placed OOC in the roleplay thread itself can actually be beneficial. I can't come up with an example off the top of my head, but I also don't want to see either of these threads deteriorate into an argument where someone chooses to be a little OOCly in the actual roleplay thread. What if someone who's playing chooses not to peruse both of these threads equally? Or they usually do but that one time it actually matters they neglect coming in here and don't see some message that they shoulda seen?

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"Hang on, travelers..."

CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 3:35 PM

Excellant idea!

Welcome to the 'real' Green Room?

So, I'll post here what I JUST posted on the 'Stage' thread ...

OOC
Heh heh, meebe we should have a "mission clock" with each post ...

IE:

SIMON'S MOVE
LOCATION : INFIRMARY 2023hrs
Book and Simon torture Niska with clog dancing music played on a kazoo.

JAYNE'S MOVE
LOCATION : INARA'S SHUTTLE 2021hrs
Inara moans softly in her sleep, startling Jayne as he ransacks her stash of classy porn.

Notice that Jaynes move is 2 minutes BEFORE Simon's move, even though Simon 'posted' first ...

Might help with the confusion ... sorry about the military time usage - habit!

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 3:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ZachsMind:
Okay we can give this a try, but I reserve the opinion that there are times when a strategically placed OOC in the roleplay thread itself can actually be beneficial. I can't come up with an example off the top of my head, but I also don't want to see either of these threads deteriorate into an argument where someone chooses to be a little OOCly in the actual roleplay thread. What if someone who's playing chooses not to peruse both of these threads equally? Or they usually do but that one time it actually matters they neglect coming in here and don't see some message that they shouldhave seen?

Agreed, how about a OCC 'note' thus:

OCC: Kaylee

meaning there is a specfic OCC in the Green Room/OCC thread for the person playing Kaylee. A OCC GENERAL, would be for well general stuff. I think you get the idea.

OR an 'actor' could cut-n-paste the link to the OCC as thus :

http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=17&t=3384

In order to signal there is a OCC they posted ...

And of course, a combo of both ideas.

OCC: Avatar Help!
http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=17&t=3384

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

CHANNAIN

Friday, January 16, 2004 3:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ZachsMind:
Okay we can give this a try, but I reserve the opinion that there are times when a strategically placed OOC in the roleplay thread itself can actually be beneficial.

I would say comments on background work directly oriented for the story itself can stay in the "stage" post. Asking things like the locations of characters, letting everyone know the players have to fall down in bed and such can also stay there.

Topics like the recent conversation on my avatar changing to Jeannete Lee to better depict Rowan can be posted here.

I draw, therefore I am
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BOOMERGOODHEART

Friday, January 16, 2004 3:55 PM

Ok, once again, why is Kaylee the one being used as an example?!? LMAO...CapnRahn has a thing for me. *snicker*

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

ZACHSMIND

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:00 PM

Man, y'all are thinking way too much into this.

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"Hang on, travelers..."

CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:00 PM

Hey, I AM playing Simon after all ...

and we have YET had the opportunity to 'act' in the same scene.

I have to go now and practice putting my foot in my mouth in order to be able to correctly play Simon when he talks with Kaylee!

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:03 PM

I can't control them EX game designer wanna-be twitches ...

Just gotta find answers to questions, queries, conundrums ... brain will 'splode if I don't ...

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

ASTRIANA

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:05 PM

Well, y'know this is just supposed to help cut down on load time/number of threads we have to post for the actual RP. It's kinda on a trial period, so if it doesn't work, we don't use. No muss, no fuss.

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

CHANNAIN

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
OOC
Heh heh, meebe we should have a "mission clock" with each post ...

CapnRahn, you're not asking me to do math, are you? I'm an artist, not a mathematician

Oh - hey, would you mind pulling the big Jeanette pic from the "stage" post? I mean, she's goh-geous and all, but speaking as one who has a measly 56K modem at home, that's going to make bringing up the stage post even boggier than it is already.

I draw, therefore I am
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CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:08 PM

No math, just a way to keep things in time perspective. It is hard for readers to keep track, because every 'actor' posts at, sometimes radically, differant times of the real day.

Like all other of my 'ideas' - Jus' practicin'!

Was actually going to do that - cable modem has spoiled me rotten ...

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

BOOMERGOODHEART

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:29 PM

I feel a little out of place playing Kaylee here, folks. I mean, she doesn't really have any backstory, and she sure as hell doesn't have any secrets that she's keeping. That's just not in her character. Guess that's why my posts are so short. LOL...Kaylee seems like a kind of "filler". *sigh* Oh, well, trying my (sporadic) best.

CapnRahn, do you have any other pics of Kaylee? I'd love to change my avatar to one that not everyone else has access to. Might make my posts easier to find. Thanks!

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

CIARA

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:30 PM

ahh Boomer--can't wait ta see Kaylee and Simon together!! I can see he has also commented on Jayne and Inara's nice stacks of porn--I can just see that!!

Mal and Inara have had scenes so far, but it's only been an internal longing thing--wonder if the readers are ready for some romance? Go geddem, Boomer!

Just a humble supplicant in service to all things Joss

ASTRIANA

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:31 PM

Me too, Capn, me too! Any fantabulous shots of Zoe you feel like passin' 'round?

Don't feel bad, Boomer, I think you're doin' great! I'm having a little trouble keepin' Zoe "terse," though. Totally out of my personal character.

Ciara: Oooh! Romance! Yay! (Not that Zach isn't giving me enough WASH/ZOE romance or anything...)

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

CHANNAIN

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
No math, just a way to keep things in time perspective.

Was actually going to do that - cable modem has spoiled me rotten ...

Time...cannot run out of time. Time is infinite. You are finite...Zathras is finite and this...this is wrong tool...

Sorry, little B5 flashback there.

BTW, you're a sweetheart. Did I mention that?

I draw, therefore I am
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BOOMERGOODHEART

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:43 PM

Here's an idea that just popped into my head for Simon & Kaylee...

CapnRahn & I should get together on a time to meet up in Alpha Chat, where we would interact as our two counterparts. THEN, one of us would post the whole conversation in one solid go, so no waiting around to hear what the other one would say. Might make it flow a little more naturally...

Just a thought.

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:51 PM

Many thanks Channain.

But you are mistaken ...
... No, indeed, I am not a 'Sweetheart' I am an evil man with evil plans. bwhahahahahahhahaha

{or at least a silly gimboid with time to kill ...}

UM ... pay NO attention to the technician behind the monitor ... AHEM ...

Gotta love insomina ... brings out the silly in ALL of us.

BACK TO AVATARS...
Sure, I'll post them in the Blue Sun Room and post a link here. That way you'll have a selection.

Ya know, Kaylee and Simon have ONLY held hands, in "Message" ... or am I wrong?

EDIT TO BOOMER
Great idea. It would be good for anybody doing a scene together to do that.

I am puppeting Book at the moment, but want Maniac to have input after I post. but that means editing and all that.

The Chat idead would help alot ... or something we could cut the good dialogue out of and then past it into a post for the 'Stage' thread.

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

ASTRIANA

Friday, January 16, 2004 4:58 PM

The only real challenge I see there is to be able to be online at the same time as the people you're doing the scene with ~ which is something we haven't quite mastered yet. Might require making "dates" to be online with the folks you intend to interact with, but it could be done.

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 5:07 PM

Agreed ... take a look at my latest post and you may see wht I mean about being uncomfortable about sockpuppting other members characters.

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

GEEZER

Friday, January 16, 2004 5:12 PM

Excellent idea here, esp. for me since I can't use IM or chat at work. Highspeed cable arrived just in time to let me keep multiple windouws open.

May I be the first to beg a little plotpoint support? When Mal, Zoe, et al get to the bar tell the bartender who you're looking for, and when he points to the disreputable heap on the floor ask him if he's Thorne.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

MANIACNUMBERONE

Friday, January 16, 2004 5:14 PM

I'm waiting patiently for Simon to post.

ASTRIANA

Friday, January 16, 2004 5:16 PM

We got your back, Geezer.

Maniac, looks like you and CapnRahn are both on right now. Try the chat room:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/fireflychat.asp

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

ASTRIANA

Friday, January 16, 2004 5:52 PM

By the way, could I ask a silly question? I still don't have a lot of the Chinese phrases memorized yet, and it takes a good long while to look up the scripts to get the translations. (Zoe doesn't speak a whole lotta Chinese in general, apparently - I checked.) When the characters start "spewing" Chinese, could we post the translations in brackets <>? I know I'd appreciate it, and those that don't have access to the Pinyinary might, too.

Thanks bunches!

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 6:12 PM

Your wish is my favorite place ... keep it CLEAN!!! {hee hee, or not}

http://fireflychinese.home.att.net/index.html

I keep thinkin' the same thing about putting a full or PG13 subtitle to any of the Chinese I use... I would use this 'tho >Monkey bast...<

The other way + + It is there in my posting form, but not visable here. The 'greater than' and 'lesser than' symbols must be for some other coding when 'pointed' away from each other...

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

CHANNAIN

Friday, January 16, 2004 6:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Astriana:
When the characters start "spewing" Chinese, could we post the translations in brackets <>? I know I'd appreciate it, and those that don't have access to the Pinyinary might, too.

You just saved me the trouble of asking if it would be too distracting to add translations. Being an Asian character, I figured Chinese would come as easily to Rowan as swearing in Arabic does for me. I think to keep the story flow, I'll add translations in brackets <> at the bottom of my posts. That kosher with ya'll?

I can send you a list, Astriana. I keep it on hand at home for fanfic.

I draw, therefore I am
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ASTRIANA

Friday, January 16, 2004 6:33 PM

Yeah, I like both those ideas, Channain and CapnRahn. Translations at the bottom of the page would be good, and if they need to be PG'd, I can add some kind of disclaimer in the leader post about adult or semi-adult content.

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 6:54 PM

Got it to work for me ...

It requires a space tween the symbol and translation ... it SHOULD appear betewwn the plus signs...

no spaces + +

spaces + < Monkey Butt > +

I'll try this or the editorial brackets { } not to be confused with the reg. brackets. ][ (backwards so you can see 'em)

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

MANIACNUMBERONE

Friday, January 16, 2004 7:12 PM

Soon I will be stepping out for a while. A sudden impromptu shindig with Tash has motivated me to leave town and go see him. I will await a move from Simon/CapnRahn at Tash's house. Worry not, I will post again tonight.

BOOMERGOODHEART

Friday, January 16, 2004 8:02 PM

I made up my Chinese. Told ya'll I sucked at it.

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

ZACHSMIND

Friday, January 16, 2004 8:17 PM

BoomerGoodheart said: "I feel a little out of place playing Kaylee here, folks..."

I thought you were doing fine. If you're finding her skin kinda itchy? Try watching "Out Of Gas" again. There's plenty of meat there for Kaylee. Also "The Message" where she gets kinda entranced by the voice of Jonathan Woodward's character. Oh! And the ballroom scenes in "Shindig" and the events that led up to Malcolm getting her the dress.

Kaylee's thing is that everything she does sounds innocent because from her perspective even illegal or amoral behavior is all part of the cycle of life. She's like a.. uhm, like a carefree woodland spirit like a wood nymph or somethin'. She can hang around with base and disgusting satyrs and make them look like they're not so bad. She probably couldn't or wouldn't describe it in detail, but she just goes with the flow and does what comes natural.

Think Willow or Fred but without the self-conscious scruples. Kaylee never looks back with regret. She's always in the moment. I think you got her technospeak approach down solid. In other words she doesn't have any. The ship don't go cuz this don't work. If I fix this then she will go. Kinda Paklet mentality, to draw an obscure reference from STNG.

I assure you if you just delve into her character a little bit you'll feel more comfortable with her. She's "easy as lyin'" to get a grip on. She's a creature of nature, and communes with nature through the ship. There's a very weird combination of pagan and zen going on with her but if you just think of every molecule in the world as connected to the whole 'verse, you should do fine. =)

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"Hang on, travelers..."

CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 8:23 PM

AVATARS!!!

Kaylee - I could'na resist!

and Zoe!

and how about a new one fer me ...

and one fer Geezer

ASTRIANA

Friday, January 16, 2004 8:26 PM

Thanks Capn! How'd you do that so easy?

Edit: New synopsis in place for Act 1. Working on Acts 2 and 3. Will put Act 4 together tonight before starting the new IC thread.

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 9:13 PM

I do a screen-capture from the DVD or scan a pic in on my scanner.

Then take it to ... ick ... PhotoShop {see note 1} and crop the pic and resize it to around 60 pixels by 60 pixels.

And viola' Avatar!

NOTE 1)I REALLY liked MicroGrafix PP, but Corel bought 'em out and shut 'em down. Still looking for the last thing MG made = MicroGrafix Picture Publisher Pro 10 anybody seen a copy?

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

BOOMERGOODHEART

Friday, January 16, 2004 9:54 PM

That's a great picture of Kaylee, Capn, and I LOVE that pic of Simon. I've always loved his "introduction"...he looks so damn shady. Now how do I get Haken to change my avatar?

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

CIARA

Friday, January 16, 2004 10:19 PM

aww poor widdle underused, underappreciated, MOSTER PROGRAM Photoshop :)

It IS a big, grumpy, mean 'ol program, isn't it?

Heya Zach--if you'd do a type of character-rundown of 'nara like you did of Kaylee, I'd find it most helpful. I'm not sure I'm playing her as "her"--guess her skin's a little itchy for me too :)

---Ciara

Just a humble supplicant in service to all things Joss

CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 10:54 PM

Boomer
Just emaill him with the pic attached and ask him.

haken@fireflyfans.net

Both Astrinia and I have already done so and have asked if they could be 'exclusive' to each of us.

Ciara

HEY!!! I like my widdle MicroGrafix PP 6 ... I can do more with it than I can PS 7!!!

Not mean and grumpy ... just don't like the controls ... been playing around with it fer months now ... snif ...

I 'spose I'll have to try Corel ... but they are the fraggers that bought out MicroGrafix an then ditched 'em.

... and to TOP it off, the full version of MG PP Pro 10 I have is a DEMO and thus has 30 day time-bomb on it ... any hackers around to help me dig that sucker out?

Zach
Hummm, I know there is a Firefly 'bible' somewhere ... we need to find it. It would help with those who are 'itchy'

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

CHANNAIN

Friday, January 16, 2004 11:02 PM

*Hand up*

Point of interest? What sort of planet is Hara? Core world, not so much, border world? Just wanting to get an idea about the atmosphere, so I know what kind of scenery Rowan will be looking at as she heads down to the docks...

Are their docks on Hara?

I draw, therefore I am
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SAINT JAYNE

Friday, January 16, 2004 11:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ciara:
aww poor widdle underused, underappreciated, MOSTER PROGRAM Photoshop :)

My worked forced us to move over to standard apps including PhotoShop. I did buy it; it's gathering dust somewhere.

CIARA

Friday, January 16, 2004 11:07 PM

yeah, I started out with Photoshop, only because that's what our college had us learn in. I also use Painter and OpenCanvas, but not for graphic-type illustrations and stuff--

I wish I DID know how to use some of the other programs--I hate having to rely on photoshop so much

and now I have officially gone VERY far off topic *veers back*

Just a humble supplicant in service to all things Joss

CAPNRAHN

Friday, January 16, 2004 11:08 PM

Channain
Hara (or is it Hera) - Border world was it not?

In the battle scenes it looks like places around San Bernindo CA I have been. Great hills and ravines and the like.

Heh, they may have filmed there!

There SHOULD be docks, think about the landing area in "Serenity".

If it was considered the 'final' battle of the war, it should be a bustling planet, but still a border world.

I am at a loss, anybody else got better info?

SIDE NOTE- I contacted an old aquaintance at zoic studios (CGI company that did Firefly) he actually remembered me from our days of huskering at SciFi conventions. I am trying to get him to vist here more often.

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

HUMBLE

Friday, January 16, 2004 11:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Channain:
*Hand up*

Point of interest? What sort of planet is Hara? Core world, not so much, border world? Just wanting to get an idea about the atmosphere, so I know what kind of scenery Rowan will be looking at as she heads down to the docks...

Are their docks on Hara?

I draw, therefore I am
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CHANNAIN-I just made up the story elements as I went. Figured story would kind of write itself if given a basic structure. However, Hara is not a core planet. But it does have strategic value to Alliance commerce. Acts as a way-point between core planets and outer rim worlds. Moderate industry. Some small shipyards for repairwork, upgrades, and overhauls. Shopping centers, tourism of war sites. Some farming and lumber work. Has more alliance patrols lately due to Reaver attacks infringing upon shipping lanes. These are just some general concepts. Also has a thriving black market underground economy run predominately by former Independent Browncoats. Perhaps Rowan and Thorne know of other local nuances that will be revealed later?

CHANNAIN

Friday, January 16, 2004 11:35 PM

Shiny! I'll put that into my notes. I'd like to help create the atmosphere of the city. Looks like Mal's about to leave Serenity to meet with Thorne. Now THAT should be fun.

Yeah, I think Rowan would know a bit about the black market, and Thorne DEFINITELY would

Thanks Humble!

I draw, therefore I am
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MANIACNUMBERONE

Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:14 AM

CapnRahn, your post forgot to include that Book left the infirmary and then came right back. He's in there with you.

CAPNRAHN

Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:34 AM

Yes, I did miss-read that, I thouhgt you left ...

Oh and the blinds were pulled and door was already locked ... unless I misread your post further...

OK, fixing!

HEY Haken fixed my Avatar!

EDIT - Maniac, can you join me on the IRC?

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

MANIACNUMBERONE

Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:59 AM

yes, you're right, the door was locked. I went out and then after returning, locked it again. I didn't notice that you'd closed the blinds already... oh well.
I'm afraid I can't join you on the IRC tonight. I am currently shindigging at Tash's house, and checking in once in a while to see how things progress.

BOOMERGOODHEART

Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:15 AM

Thanks for the avatar, CapnRahn! I've sent it to Haken...hopefully he'll work his magic pretty soon.

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

CAPNRAHN

Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:20 AM

No worries Maniac! We'll work it out.

You folks having a party? Drunkin' Debauchery?

Boomer
He got ours done pretty quick, notice Astriana's and Channain's avatars?

Mine switched back ... durn it!

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

BOOMERGOODHEART

Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:24 AM

I see the good one for you, CapnRahn...don't know which one you're seeing.

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

CAPNRAHN

Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:26 AM

DOUBLE BLOODY POST

CAPNRAHN

Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:26 AM

My orginal ... from the profile page on "My Firefly"

BTW, I am back over on the IRC...

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

GEEZER

Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HUMBLE:
CHANNAIN-I just made up the story elements as I went. Figured story would kind of write itself if given a basic structure. However, Hara is not a core planet. But it does have strategic value to Alliance commerce. Acts as a way-point between core planets and outer rim worlds. Moderate industry. Some small shipyards for repairwork, upgrades, and overhauls. Shopping centers, tourism of war sites. Some farming and lumber work. Has more alliance patrols lately due to Reaver attacks infringing upon shipping lanes. These are just some general concepts. Also has a thriving black market underground economy run predominately by former Independent Browncoats. Perhaps Rowan and Thorne know of other local nuances that will be revealed later?

Well, I see you've been to Hara before. Got it first time. You'll also remember that despite the strong Alliance presence, there is no love lost between the purple-bellies and the locals, who remember the atrocities during the war, ending with the carpet-bombing of the Serenity Valley. It's still a lifeless wasteland after several years.

Family ties are very important, and even distant relations can expect help and support. Local police are "realistic" about the unauthorized trade which takes place (probably because it likely involves a relative or two), but are otherwise generally honest.

As usual outside the Core, most everyone is armed. Usually pretty peaceful, though. If you shoot another local without a darn good reason, their family will be in touch.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

MANIACNUMBERONE

Saturday, January 17, 2004 3:49 AM

Great post CapnRahn!!! I will make my post later tonight .... in a few hours ... as I am gettin' loaded and I can't think straight. Soon enough that danm Niska will be spillin' his stinkin guts.... you wanna take the lead on the interrogation while I'm gone or wait for me? either way I am good. I will presume that Book helps Simon up, and asks what he did, but I can't think further right now.

CAPNRAHN

Saturday, January 17, 2004 4:04 AM

DOH!!! Already posted for the both of us.

I left the interrogation fer later ... boxed Niska and tried to catch up with the rest of the cast.

Still need to find River too!

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

HUMBLE

Saturday, January 17, 2004 5:54 AM

CHANNAIN-You're welcome. Hope the info was helpful. There are no small parts. It's entirely what you guys make of it. I personally think that we don't need to go entirely off of series eps. Kind of fun to make up new characters and adventures of our own. I think we've really lucked out and found a good group of writers that think creatively, and at times,on their feet as well. Hope you enjoy the RPing. (P.S.:Checked out your art site. You should post your work on Image Gallery for this site. My fave is The Muse. Reminds me of Inara. Beautiful work.)

HUMBLE

Saturday, January 17, 2004 6:05 AM

GEEZER-Yeah, I like the idea of shady cops. Was playing with the idea of a local Maffia. Then thought Maffia would be good story for later RP. I like your ideas pertaining to the local's eye for an eye philosophy. Wonder if the Shepherd could be used in this regard? Perhaps Serenity could also smuggle some Tequilla as well as weapons? I look forward to seeing what you do with Thorne character.

ZACHSMIND

Saturday, January 17, 2004 6:54 AM

If there were a Firefly Bible on the Internet, I think we'd've found it by now.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=16&t=1882

That was a recent thread where people tried to find it but the thread deteriorated into people talking about the King James Bible and whether or not the translation is dependable.. or something. And talk about the Star Trek bible. I have a copy of the first season for STNG. It didn't even mention Worf yet. Still have it around here somewhere. It's probably keeping an end table steady or something.

But I don't think the Firefly Bible was ever made publically available. So we might have to make our own.

I am working on a character rundown for Inara. Should I post it in here or start a new thread?

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"Hang on, travelers..."

CAPNRAHN

Saturday, January 17, 2004 7:02 AM

Posting here would be best, I would think.

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

ZACHSMIND

Saturday, January 17, 2004 8:09 AM

(it got too darn long to post here. but I linked it)

Ciara, here's that character rundown of Inara you were asking about.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=17&t=3396

I hope it's helpful. =) Really you've been doing fine I think, but hopefully my longwindedness with help scratch that itch for ya.

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"Hang on, travelers..."

CAPNRAHN

Saturday, January 17, 2004 9:03 PM

I was wondering what y'all got out reading of the Infirmary scene.

I got some specfic ideas for further-down-the-road character arcs (not just for Simon)... but wanted to see if I had "planted the foreshadowing seeds" correctly.

So, just let me know what ya think of the full Infirmary moves.

Yes, I have been trying to collate the posts into their 'scene/set/location' pieces IE Bridge, Inara's Shuttle, Infirmary, Reaver Ship, and Transit(walkin' and talkin' from one location to another)etc...

If Astriana is amenable and since we seem to be 'working in parallel', I would like to work together in formatting our little RP into a script and keep it updated as we go.

Thoughts?

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

HUMBLE

Saturday, January 17, 2004 10:20 PM

CAPNRAHN-I reread you're Infirmary posts. Am intrigued with direction you're taking Simon in RP. Hidden agendas and skills are always a plus. Nice segue into an interesting side story off main plot. I like the interaction between Book and Simon. Good character development. Oh, and the script update is a VERY good idea. Kind of got lost where everyone was in the RP for a while.

GEEZER

Saturday, January 17, 2004 11:57 PM

During the break. while installing a DVD R/W on the computer(Look out Capn, I'll be an image clippin' fool soon!) I worked out a bit of Thorne's backstory. This is always malleable if needed down the line.

Thorne is a native of Hara, and was the second son of a well-off farm family which lived in Serenity Valley(where else?). As the second son, he goes into the military, which at that time meant the Alliance forces. My Avatar is his graduation picture from the military academy. (A cyber-cookie to the one that tells me who the picture actually is.) Thorne doesn't talk much about his time in Alliance service, but is a colonel by the time of the Unification war.

At the start of the war, he resigns his Alliance commission and volunteers to fight for the Independents. This is not a popular decicion with his family, who support unification. Due to his prior military experience, Thorne is involved with strategic planning, but, also due to other prior experience, he spends some time on clandestine operations to obtain weapons and supplies.

After the war is lost, Thorne returns to Hara, although he now has no ties there. His sister moved off-world years ago and the rest of his family were lost in the devastation of Serenity Valley. He uses contacts developed during the war to open an import/export business that is quite successful, if somewhat less than 100% legal.

Thorne is well traveled, and at home in a variety of cultures and social levels. Somewhat of an antiquarian, he loves ancient music, literature, movies, video, and popular culture. His language is sprinkled with 600 years of slang and catchphrases. For some unknown reason he refuses to speak Chinese, but throws in an occasional word in other Earth-that-was languages, which few understand. In business he is direct to the point of bluntness, but when socializing can get quite verbose.

He likes a drink now and again, and occasionally goes on a real toot, as though he were trying to forget something. Enjoys good food (and can cook his own), although once again no Chinese. Likes women, but isn't involved with any one at this time.

Also, as noted before: about 50, good shape, left-handed, right ear missing, short salt&pepper hair, clean shaven, well armed.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

CAPNRAHN

Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:28 AM

Thanx Humble!

Geezer - Tahnx to you too! As a non-canon guest-star you have free reign on your back story.

Do you mind if I include it in the RPs show 'bible', if I do one?

Just a Note - I am thinking of starting an RP, but not the crew of the Serenity.

It would be a group of disaffected Alliance folk and retired Federal Marshals who found out the hard way that they were used. They don't feel they were on the right side of the war.

So, they quit their jobs or (if military) were 'rolled-out'. The main cast is based around a Fighter Craft Crew Chief (forcably reitred Seinor Master Sergant) by the name of Marovech Rahn.
(yep, the name is from an old DnD Character and the last is, of course, my ID )

He and his 'sympathizers' (engineers and his ground crew)scavanged and 'kitbashed' their own ship out of - primarly -Firefly class transports. It is slightly bigger and to keep within the 'bug' aspect, I am calling the 'new' class the 'Dragonfly Class Frigate'

I'll post a synop and ship drawings in another thread as soon as I have it fleshed out.

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

CIARA

Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:57 AM

Thank you SO MUCH for the Inara rundown, Zach--I think I'll keep it for future reference and study :)

I think the Inara I play has been too damsel-in-distress...but that's a side of her we don't ever see, I guess. She'll be back to her old hidden self again soon, I promise it :)

The only person I can imagine Inara sharing her confidince with is Kaylee--maybe we can work with that later, Boomer :) when Kaylee's not pinin for Simon! *grin*

Thanks again, Zach, as always, my Hero

Just a humble supplicant in service to all things Joss

HUMBLE

Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:08 AM

Geezer-Way to go to town on the backstory! Sounds like quite the rennaissance man. I look forward to interacting Mal with Thorne. CAPNRAHN-Sounds like an interesting idea for kind of a spin-off RP of FIREFLY. I like it.

CAPNRAHN

Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:12 AM

Heh, I had put this on the IRC Alpha Chat, but what the heck ...

POSSIBLE RP SPOILER ALERT

Select to view spoiler:

Was wondering what you folks thought about the infirmary stuff.

I may do a ... ahem 'tribute' to FarScape .... A Neural Niska clone in Simons head ... so he and his sis can both be crrrrazy ...

It would be amuzing to see how long it will take for someone to accuse me of ripping off FarScape ... hee hee

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

GEEZER

Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HUMBLE:
Geezer-Way to go to town on the backstory! Sounds like quite the rennaissance man. I look forward to interacting Mal with Thorne.

Being new to the RP world, I'm not sure how much to reveal in backstory, and how much to let come out as things unfold. I have an idea of how Thorne/Mal interaction may work out down the road, and may check with you offline to see how you feel about it.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

CAPNRAHN

Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:56 AM

OK, here is a PRELIM UNFINISHED hand-drafted (I am not an artist, period) of the Dragonfly Class Frigate.

It can also haul cargo containers ... just no pics of them on my comp yet.

Shoot away!

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

GEEZER

Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
OK, here is a PRELIM hand-drafted (I am not an artist, period) of the Dragonfly Class Frigate.

It can also haul cargo containers ... just no pics of them on my comp yet.

Containers? Like a standard Conex as seen sitting around the docks in TTJ?

BTW. Note to Astriana: Act IV is getting kind of hefty and slow to load. Act V coming up soon?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

CAPNRAHN

Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:12 AM

Had something differant in mind, but the DF Cargo containers could hold the conex ones, I think.

I need to get the dimensions of the Firefly (190' long dinna Joss say?) and do my calculations.

I'll put up a pic of 'em, if I can find it.

EDIT
No such luck ... well I will now cease and disist my hijack of the OCC.
"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

HUMBLE

Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:24 AM

GEEZER-If you have some story ideas in mind, I'd be happy to do a run-through. I think you did a good job on the backstory. Are you drawing on a particular source for inspiration for your character? I don't know if Mal's going to harbor animosity towards Thorne or perhaps they'll strike up a rapport right away.

CAPNRAHN

Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:49 AM

ACT 5 thread prepared ...

http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=17&t=3404&m=34483

goo'nite ...

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

GEEZER

Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:53 AM

Humble:

Both rapport and animosity between Mal and Thorne as things unfold. Not sure how it'll resolve. I'll put my scenario down and drop you an email so you can slice&dice as needed.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

BOOMERGOODHEART

Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:56 AM

Huh. Still no avatar change from Haken. I hope he's just busy, and not ignoring my request!

You know we love you, Hak.

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

SAINT JAYNE

Sunday, January 18, 2004 3:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BoomerGoodheart:
Huh. Still no avatar change from Haken.

It took him a couple of days to get to mine. Are you using that Kaylee avatar with the strawberry? Those new avatars are da bian-hua!

SAINT JAYNE

Sunday, January 18, 2004 3:25 AM

First impression: Wow.

Afterthoughts: (You did want criticism, right?) I would suggest placing the higher engine near the back. When travelling over a planet's surface, all engines would have to tilt 45 degrees to accelerate at 1G (1G push forward, 1G push against gravity) and the higher engine's exhaust would strike the lower engine, reducing the overall acceleration.

Of course, in this situation they could act independantly - the rear engine pointed straight back and the front engine straight down.

It looks like a dragonfly with the extra engines.

CAPNRAHN

Sunday, January 18, 2004 3:36 AM

Thanks! I love doing artistic stuff, but am don't 'feel' like an artist, I am an engineer at heart!!!

I could NOT resist giving Boomer the "Strawberry Orgasm" screen-cap as her Avatar ... I sat down and framed it until I got the look I liked and s-capped it.

Actually, in 'real-life" I am a AF ex-Avionics Tech.

I have the fwd engine set so a 'power boost' could be done by directing both engines 45 degrees (up or down)and the fore/dorsal engines exuast (mixed correctly by the pilot) feeds the aft/ventral engine ... it think it is called hot fuel packing or somesuch. End result: Zoooooom!

Yoiu catch the 4 shuttles and the "Starship Trooper" esque retrevial ship planted on the nose?

Heh, wait till you see the aft towed {collapsable) cargo containers ... makes you think even More of a Dragonfly.

Oh, and she has guns ... ever hear of Metal Storm, it is a real munitions system ... so it seems ...

here take a peek ...

http://www.metalstorm.com/

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

SAINT JAYNE

Sunday, January 18, 2004 3:42 AM

Well, you do think of everything, don't you CapnRahn? Smarts, that's what you got.

I did not notice the extra shuttles, I assumed it was an extended bridge (for God knows what reason, I didn't even know it had guns until you told me).

Waiting to see the cargo containers.

CAPNRAHN

Sunday, January 18, 2004 3:48 AM

Heh, I got that engineerin' itch!

Can't just look purty, it's gotta work!

Spending 6 years working on B-52s and KC-135s sorta helped me get that ... um ... picky

The sorta purple/blue things are the shuttles ... the aft ones I fergot to put back in on the dorsal view after I noticed I had a superstructre-blocking-the-shuttle problem.

Yellow showing where the engine 'wing' is at in the side view

Red is the Captain's gig and main Bridge.

OK I'm gonna start a DragonFly thread ... soz I can show off and get ideas W/O cluttering up this here OCC!

WATCH THIS SPACE FER A LINK to *RP Green Room for "Procrustian Karma"* ( I HAD to use it!!!)...

http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=17&t=3407&m=34504#3450434504

JAQUILE

Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:16 AM

I'd just like to say, that I love what you all are doing here, and have to complement you all on the excellent writing. It really (mostly) reads like just another episode. And seeing as to the excellent quality of all the Firefly episodes, that is helluva job.

But now, curiosity has gotten the best of me. I've got a quick question about the little firefight that went down in act one, but before I ask the question (and cause I don't want to make you run back through all of act one to find the posts), I've taken the time to grab all the relevent portions of the posts in their chronological order, and prefaced them with the characters whom is taking the action. Pay attention to the numbers.

Quote:
(EARLY) 12 men, plus Early and Niska. The deadly team opens the bay door of Niska's ship and they float silently into space. Towards Serenity.

Quote:
(ZOE) Creeps quietly through the ship, gun positioned against her shoulder, keeping an eye out for intruders. As she nears the entrance of the Cargo Bay, she slows and checks the positioning of Niska's men. Seeing a clean shot from her cover, she opens fire, taking out those in her sights.

Quote:
(NISKA) NISKA ducks down as ZOE kills three of his henchmen

Quote:
(MAL) Signals Zoe that all is well with him, six dead.

Quote:
(JAYNE) Jayne gets to the walkway above the cargo bay, take a quick look around to get the enemy positioning, and takes two quick bursts shots with Vera. The powerful rounds rain down onto Niksa's men taking one through the throat, passing through to stike the man behind him in the abdomen, both fly back and crumple in a heap. Several rounds ricochet around the hold while more rounds find their deadly journey's end in Niksa's men. At the end of the short exchange 8 of the intruders lie dead or dying on the cargo floor between Mal and his shots.

So we've got 3 killed by Zoe. 6 Killed by Mal. 2 that Jayne shot, and Jayne claims in total, between him and Mal, they killed 8. Well, hate to break it to Jayne, but 6+2 is 8, so he didn't get anymore kills added to his belt. Of course, long as Mal's not there to say how many he shot, Jayne can get away with the bragging

But that's not the important thing. The important thing is that 3+6+2=11. And there were 12 men (Unless of course, Early can't count. And while I am highly suspicious of his mental state, I do believe that he wouldn't make a mistake like that when going into a combat situation... plus, ya don't need to take off your shoes to count to twelve, just use each foot as one... :)

Now... where'd that last one go? ^_^

CAPNRAHN

Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:19 AM

Ummm ... he scarpered!

And we still have Niska!

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

HUMBLE

Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:32 AM

Jaquile-Thanks for pointing that out. Being that Jayne is not exactly burdened with and over-abundance of schooling, I'd say he erred in his count in the heat of battle. Maybe that's something we can change in editing?

CAPNRAHN

Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:15 AM

Oh , yes, we can fix the number or just have the bloke scarper, rabbit, exit stage left ...

... boy I AM tired...

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

ASTRIANA

Monday, January 19, 2004 12:28 AM

Yeah, I think we can change that in editing. Either Zoe can take out 4, or Jayne can take out 3 (making him & Zoe even )

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

MANIACNUMBERONE

Monday, January 19, 2004 1:11 AM

...not sure if Jayne or wash were in the bridge with Book, so he just spoke to the open air. I hope someone was in there. If not, where are they?

CAPNRAHN

Monday, January 19, 2004 4:55 AM

BTW; I posted the script version of the Infirmary scenes. Unfortuatly, the format did not cross over.

I did the editing on my PDA and forgot to use the html coding for italacs, bold and so forth.

But it is posted ... tried to cut and paste all of the relavant bits that linked to the Infirmary Set. Also, I did as little editing as possible. Ya know, keep the flavor and all that.

Gonna try the other scenes later ... (yawwwn, not enuff sleep )

oh ... the link ...

http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=17&t=3409

Let me know what ya think.

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

ZACHSMIND

Monday, January 19, 2004 2:25 PM

Stopped in briefly to see what's up. Yes Wash is on the bridge now and apparently so is Jayne, but Jayne has reported having souped up the Mule which is quite a trick cuz Zoe, Mal & Kaylee took the mule with them didn't they? I mean, they went to get the cargo. So I need some clarification before I can continue my move.

One possible solution is that Niska's men may have brought with them a second mule. That's a bit of a stretch though. I'm just looking for an answer that won't disrupt anyone's moves.

Yes, I believe Mal took a radio with him, but generally Wash wouldn't call Mal on it cuz he might catch Mal at a time inappropriate for the thing. Wash could however 'beep' Mal, I suppose. Shall Wash do that?

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"Hang on, travelers..."

GEEZER

Monday, January 19, 2004 2:57 PM

Maniac

re the alliance comms Book is intercepting: Thorne is a native of Hara, not an off-worlder. Probably pretty well known to the local constables, too. This is important to his storyline, so if you could do some tweaking I'd appreciate it. Perhaps throw in another line when the cops get closer. i.e. "Stupid rookie. Thats not an off-worlder, it's just Thorne."

Edit: see you fixed it. Too many threads to juggle.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

ASTRIANA

Monday, January 19, 2004 3:32 PM

Zoe definitely has a radio with her, and maybe we can explain the mule thing with having more than one? SerenitysSon's post talks about it being the older, beat up mule - maybe the same on that took damage in War Stories when they went to rescue Mal and Wash. Could be that with the take from selling the Lassiter, they decided to buy a brand-spanking-new one, and just never ditched the old one... (Just makin' stuff up, here. Whatever helps.. )

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

GEEZER

Monday, January 19, 2004 4:12 PM

I'm out for a while for groceries and to finally catch "Return of the King." MLK day crowd should be light. Civil service does have it's perks.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

ZACHSMIND

Monday, January 19, 2004 4:38 PM

I thought the reference to an offworlder that Book overheard the alliance say was in reference to Mal, and not Thorne. Did I read that wrong? I just skimmed it.

As for the second mule, it's not canon so we'd have to explain it somehow. The more we add though, the more apocryphal the storyline becomes. I'm being apocryphal with Wash, granted. However I'm trying not to make any permanent changes to him.

Little stuff like two mules doesn't bother me personally, but there's a few areas where I'd be tempted to walk if we ventured into them. Like for example aliens. If anyone comes along playing a nonhuman aka extra terrestrial type, I'll take issue with that. But suddenly saying we got two mules when the series always specified only having one (that got beat up in War Stories, granted), I can live with that.

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"Hang on, travelers..."

ASTRIANA

Monday, January 19, 2004 4:42 PM

Okay, we're gonna hafta start a new thread for the OOC commentary soon. I'll just go ahead and do it now.

OOC 2: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=17&t=3417

Zachsmind: I totally agree. I'd like to keep to the original series canon where we can. The only real advantage to the show having been cut off so soon is that we're left with some room for play in several areas. Case in point: Inara's needle and Book's background.

BTW, Geezer, like your new avatar! Shiny!

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.