Male and Female Imponderables-Resurrected
POSTED BY: Tristan
UPDATED: Thursday, June 8, 2006 20:33
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Tristan wrote:
.... Sex with love is wonderful, but the sex without love is still quite good. I do not think I could get away with it now...I have to have some positive feelings towards the person.
I have one superpower
, which is possessed by at least 90% of all men in the world. I can have sex with a woman with no emotional attachment whatsoever and thoroughly enjoy myself. .....At least I could before I got hitched back in '87.
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I don't know, I used to be able to do that.
Although inever did one night stands, with regular partners sex used to be about company, comfort or stress relief, and only needed an attraction. But in the end it just got cold. And the last guy just managed to make me feel used, so I just gave it up.
I think a lot of guys are able to enjoy it, I had a pet thoery once that they were able to externalise it - focus on the physical pleasure, but keep it outside of them selves.
Where as with women it was a lot harder as their brains arn't always wired that way.
Plus theres the whole anatomy thing - in every encounter, for women, sex is an invasion. Theres a real risk involved, so theres always more thought needed, over and above 'this feels good'
But i'm likely wrong.
and as for the bi curious thing, everyone does go through the stage of questioning who they are. Do I do think its more socially acceptable for women to act on the impulses, theres still much more stigma attatched for men.
note how no-one yes has replied to my question of would they take part in a 2 men 1 woman threeway? (though it is possible that thats because the question got lost in the waffle)
By the way, my answer to that would be 'if it were Chrisitan Bale on one side and Sawyer from Lost on the other, honey i'm there already...
no, kidding, I don't know, never say never.
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Originally posted by seryn:
note how no-one yes has replied to my question of would they take part in a 2 men 1 woman threeway?
Have done. Was lots and lots of fun. Especially since they were all (actually three blokes and me, could not belive my luck) straight and therefore entirely concentrated on me. I shit you not. It was fun. In fact it was so much fun, i wish that I'd had a little less to drink and so could have enjoyed it more!
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i'm not ususally one to do this sort of thing, but as you enjoyed it...
YOU GO GIRL!
LOL, how did you get yourself into that situation?
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ok general warning, just shout "too much information!" if it gets too much.
Erm, I was in London a couple of summers ago and I got to know some guys in a bar over a couple of days. I really fancied one of them (half Irish, half Italian- fatal combination) and we flirted over a couple of days and I got to know his friends who were cool too. But I totally wasn't flirting with them, coz I was into the Irish guy.
So third or fourth day we all end up going clubbing together. There's much flirting with Irish guy and we decide to leave together. His friends are leaving at the same time, and in my tipsy boldness I asked some question like "so are you really good friends...?" in a playful, suggestive tone, totally not expecting anything to happen. But it did and we all ended up going back to one of the guys' home (really nice house- it turned out he was some high powered plastic surgeon). Then I went home and stayed over with the Irish guy then I left to go back home to Shropshire a few days later.
To be honest, I couldn't believe my luck either! I still don't really know how it happened. Right time, right place, right mood I guess.
We all exchange a few flirty fun texts from time to time, but I wasn't expecting anything out of the night other than to have fun there and then. Also the very fact I didn't really know these guys helped because of the lack of emotional baggage, we were just four people having fun.
So I feel fine about it now - that whole 'emotion' distancing thing you mentioned. I'm very good at that (a little too good but that's a whole other story).
Certainly something to tell the grandchildren about! [or maybe not]
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yes, maybe not the grandchildren.
I just don't say things like that, or if ido it must be really obvious that i'm joking.
So half of me is say 'and thats a good thing...' a small part of me is yelling 'live a little' and the rest is staying suspiciously quiet.
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Phew- where to start?
Tristan: Sorry! That's why I said, "typically"- In my experience most guys do go straight for the "threesome-plan". There are a few who are much cooler about it.
Threesome with two men is one of my hottest fantasies. Sadly, at this point, it's just a fantasy. Manitou is very very straight, and although we have friends who I would LOVE to share him with that way, it's not gonna happen.
I don't see him being comfortable with me fulfilling that fantasy with other men. At least, not in this point of our relationship. However, if Orlando Bloom and Johnny Depp showed up on my doorstep tomorrow night, I would have to re-consider that whole open communications thing! 
Leaina, WOW! Sometimes the fates just conspire, don't they?
Bisexuality; Yeah, I spent a lot of time saying "I'm not really bi, I'm just bi-curiously, but I'm really straight." (Uh huh. Keep on sayin' it girl!)
And then there was 9 1/2 Weeks, and I looked up at Kim Basinger- you know the scene I mean, in the slide-room? and said, Oh. I want that!
When I was doing workshops on sexuality on campus, people (usually parents trying to figure out what they did wrong that their child was gay!) would ask me "Is there an event that caused you to become bisexual?"
And I always have to answer, "Yes, it was called 9 1/2 Weeks, and the actress's name was Kim Bassinger." Usually gets a laugh, anyway.
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If ever one woman caused me to cross over to the other camp, it could only be Claudia Black - I swaer, the first season of Farscape, she got as much eyeball time as Ben.
But like I said before, with women its a more aesthetic, intellectual attraction. With men its the whole hog, the day dreams, the fantasies and the wierd crunches in the pit of my stomach at the meerest thought of them, so I guess i'm straight.
Dammit. I need to find someone to have a crush on. The old one wore off.
Or maybe I just need to get back on the horse, all this talk and stuff on the Tree is just making me think that maybe i'm growing too up-tight and need to give relationships a chance again.
I bought this cracking top the other week, its almost entirely backless 'cept for the knot holding it together. Was a little worried about looking awful in it (i'm not the skinniest of people and it doesn't forgive) but maybe I should crack it out and go out more.
And on that thought. G'night folks x
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FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
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Ive got a pondering. Although its probebly been discussed a thousand times in the previous imponderables.
Masturbation, good or bad?
Personally I do get the occasional boughts of shame from the act, but generally I belive that theres nothing wrong with it and that its usually healthy (just have to convince my upbringing of that )
Also, whats your preference. Personally I avoid using "aids" like porn and devices (dont really know if there are any for men?), my imagination is enough and I prefer to be nekkid. Im not really much for masturbating and dont do it often since I never really got as powerfull orgasms and physical closeness to other people is a big part in sex for me.
You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!
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Catching up here!
Okay, first off to Emma: Communicate, yes. That has been covered. If she is in fact interested in you, be very open and honest and careful with how you proceed. I have been on both sides of this issue; I fell madly in love with my best friend but she had no interst in me. We eventually grew apart, but it didn't have a lot to do with that. She was honest about it, and I appreciated that. I would have been completely up for experimenting with her if she had been at all curious, too. If it had turned out that she wasn't into it, I would have been a little sad, but I would have understood. On the flip side, I had a friend who expressed interest in dating me, but I wasn't comfortable with the idea for a number of reasons. We are still friends. So really it depends on what you feel for this girl. If you're attracted and she's attracted and also a really good friend, I would say that is totally the way to go.
Tristan, I can't speak for everyone, but I've known several women who never went through a "curious" stage of their lives. It's one of those things you just kind of know. I haven't had a serious relationship with a girl, but I sure have enjoyed kissing a few. And even before that, it was something I just knew. You probably knew you liked girls before kissing one, and it was the same with me. There are always different levels, though. Someone once described it to me as a parabola; the flat line on one side being completely straight, the other side being completely gay, and the curve in the middle being the varying degrees of bi-ness. There are those who can, say, appreciate how a member of the same sex looks but have no desire to sleep with them. There are those who might be attracted but don't feel the really strong draw. There are those that feel the draw, but not as strongly. And there are those right in the middle. I'm close to the middle, though I do have a slight preference for men when it comes to pure attraction. There have been women who make my color rise and my stomach drop without even saying anything, but it's less common.
I very much enjoy dating bisexual or bi-curious men because they get it; they understand on a personal level what it means. Threesome with two guys has the same amount of appeal to me as the other kind. As long as there was enough mutual attraction, I would be up for it. Haven't found people I want to have a threesome of any kind with yet, but I might one day. I agree, by the way, with the more "social" idea of being poly. Wouldn't want to go off on the side, so to speak, even with consent.
Yes, I have tried a few posisions from the kama sutra; they aren't all complicated. But some aren't possible without being a yoga master and/or having about five people involved. They are very, very nice.
Mastubation; couldn't live without it. I mean, right now, when I'm not getting anything else. It's never as powerful and I certainly can't go multiple, but it's still decent for what ails me. I am fortunate not to have had an upbringing that told me to be ashamed, so I have no problem with it. Devices are also very much required, as I tense up and arch when getting close and could therefore never keep my hand moving properly to actually finish. (I hope that's not TMI.) So I have several things that pulse and vibrate. My collection has unsurprisingly grown in the last few months. And yes, there are a few things for men, usually consisting of a "sleeve" of some sort, though they don't move by themselves. Apparently there is a masturbation machine that does move by itself and sells for a couple thousand dollars. There are also, of course, various dolls.
Ok, think I got everything there.
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Catching up here!
Okay, first off to Emma: Communicate, yes. That has been covered. If she is in fact interested in you, be very open and honest and careful with how you proceed. [snip] If you're attracted and she's attracted and also a really good friend, I would say that is totally the way to go.
Thanks everyone for your advice, even if it is terror inducing! (My palms go sweaty at the very thought of that conversation!) I'll let you know if anything ever does happen (I'd need bottles of Dutch courage), but seeming as she is heading off to teach in Africa for a couple of years soon it may all be moot (I'll miss her so!)
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Tristan, I can't speak for everyone, but I've known several women who never went through a "curious" stage of their lives. It's one of those things you just kind of know. I haven't had a serious relationship with a girl, but I sure have enjoyed kissing a few. And even before that, it was something I just knew. You probably knew you liked girls before kissing one, and it was the same with me. There are always different levels, though. Someone once described it to me as a parabola; the flat line on one side being completely straight, the other side being completely gay, and the curve in the middle being the varying degrees of bi-ness. There are those who can, say, appreciate how a member of the same sex looks but have no desire to sleep with them. There are those who might be attracted but don't feel the really strong draw. There are those that feel the draw, but not as strongly. And there are those right in the middle. I'm close to the middle, though I do have a slight preference for men when it comes to pure attraction. There have been women who make my color rise and my stomach drop without even saying anything, but it's less common.
That's exactly how I see it! I don't understand this rigid view of 'you're either that or that'. It's so clearly wrong. I know girls who are so straight they don't even like looking at a naked girl (but love naked men!), others that JUST like looking, then there's the touching and flirting...etc! I'm a bit odd in that I find more women attractive but flirt with more men. Guess I'm a bit scared and inhibited! What I found sad was that when my friend announced she was bi-sexual at Uni she got a lot of prejudice from her lesbian friends, who were all 'Oh you're just playing and that demeans us', or 'why can't you make up your mind'. You'd think that those who have been exposed to prejudice would be less inclined to judge but it's not always that way.
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A threesome with two guys has the same amount of appeal to me as the other kind. As long as there was enough mutual attraction, I would be up for it. Haven't found people I want to have a threesome of any kind with yet, but I might one day. I agree, by the way, with the more "social" idea of being poly. Wouldn't want to go off on the side, so to speak, even with consent.
I'd like to try but I'd have to know them very well. It could get physically intimidating and it would be even more important to not be too shy to say I don't like that or I want this (something I'm not great at!). By the way Leiana, 3 guys! I'm very impressed! You must have stamina! This has always been a recurring fantasy but I don't think I have the self-confidence to ever pull it off without getting really self-concious (3 men looking at me naked and comparing notes? Argh!)
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Yes, I have tried a few posisions from the kama sutra; they aren't all complicated. But some aren't possible without being a yoga master and/or having about five people involved. They are very, very nice.
Unusual positions are fun for playing but they can be awkward and painful. It makes me feel unimaginative but when I crave sex I always go straight for the doggie style or advanced missionary.
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Mastubation; couldn't live without it. I mean, right now, when I'm not getting anything else. It's never as powerful and I cert
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I've totally gotten the "You just can't make up your mind" attitude, though it's more from straight people, a few digs have come my way from both sides of the fence. It is ridiculous; we should really all stick together!
I love unusual positions! The only one I've ever found at all painful is basic cowgirl. I have no idea why. My fave is the Black Bee (I believe that is the correct name) which is, in fact, the one you see Mal and Nandi in during their little adventure. I just adore that one! But there are many others I love too. I don't even know if all of them have names! (Sure they do somewhere, just never found them) One is, I think, called "swimming". And then there's standing up, which was fabulous, but my boy didn't have the strength to keep us braced properly, so it was rather short-lived. Don't feel bad; there are many who consider doggie-style to be very outside the norm (did I mention I love that one, too?) and there's nothing wrong with missionary. It's not my favorite, but I enjoy it fully. Really, I have met very few positions I didn't like.
I, too, would have to be very comfortable to do the threesome/orgy thing. I have no problem talking about what I want, and even less problem saying "Yeah, don't do that" but it would be a matter of feeling safe. Can't remember who said it above, about sex always being an intrusion; you have to feel safe.
There are many couples who use toys on each other. The main thing is not to keep it all for yourself (use a small vibrating device on him; it can really work!) and never, ever, bring out a toy that is bigger than he is!
Oh, and toys with faces, I actually know the answer to that one. There's some law against manufacturing sex toys in China, so they give them faces and call them dolls. I am dead serious. The animals are for clitoral stimulation in most cases. Not sure why they're animal shaped; might be part of the same rules.
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Again with the fun imponderables! It's getting to be the first thread I check in the morning, `cause look at the topics!! And good thing we're online, because I generally can't talk detailed sex without getting all blushy. me -> 
You threesome-friendly women with all your toys - brazen hussies! I mean it as a compliment and bow to your wisdom - and also I ask this: I have no toys, but I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad to change that. But I'm too embarrassed to go in a store! How do you shop?
Re the bi thing - I'm really not so into the female anatomy, I do like the outdoor plumbing. But I realized this past winter that I was totally attracted to a girl in my dance class. That doesn't make me bi though, it's her fault. A few of the gay guys said they'd change to the other side for her too, she's just that adorable!!
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You know what's funny is that I work for an answering service and we had an account called "Shop Erotic" that ran infomercials for toys and sold them over the phone/net. Don't have the account there anymore, but I'm pretty sure they are still in business. They have cute, mostly feminine toys and offer discrete mailing; they are hand-crafted for ladies like you who don't want to go to a store! And if you order over their webiste, you don't even have to talk to anyone! (Although I was, of course, always very understanding and friendly to nervous callers I cannot speak for whatever new service they have answering for them.) And if they're not still around, there are several sites of that nature for your ordering convenience.
But really, you shouldn't be afraid of a store akin to Facinations; it's just the ones with blackened windows and "arcades" that you have to watch out for!
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Whoops! Lagging! Double post!
Look; lesbians! 
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Good morning, all!
Only have a little catching up to do, it looks like...
Masturbation. Yes, yes, and yes. It's good to know how one's own body works and to be able to give yourself pleasure. No toys are necessary, and an active imagination really helps.
Toys. I like toys, and would have no problems having one in bed, either. Just don't try to use it on me...I am not in need of any extra stimuli; intercourse itself is all the pleasure I'll be needing .
Thank you all for shedding some light on the bisexual question. It may not sound like it, but I do understand where y'all "stand", and I do not pass judgement nor condemn those that trip lightly down a different path. I just seek enlightenment...and thank you for the floodlights.
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I have a question and it is not so much about the opposite sex as it is about dealing with family when in a relationship.
Okay here is my story in a nutshell. I moved out right after I turned 18, bought a house, I work full time and go to school full time (which I pay for by myself). Anyways my family was distant (they have always been distant) but supportive and seemingly proud of my accomplishments. Then my boyfriend of a year and half moved in.
They have been demanding and bossy ever since. They have even gone as far as to say I'm living in sin. Ha, the only time I have been inside a church with anyone I'm related to was for a wedding, living in sin, bull***t. They keep telling us to get married and ask the Lord's forgiveness. GEEZE, who are these people, we have had people pregnant out of wedlock more than once in my family's history. Now granted everyone was married before the birth, but I'm not pregnant. So I should clarify it is not my whole family just this gossipy group of old women I am forced to call Aunt. My parents and brother are fine with it and supportive. It is just that these women make ALL holidays HELL. My guy is very supportive and his family thinks it is a great idea. Living together, see if it works before exchanges vows. So this just makes them clash when ever they run into each other. My family won’t stand up to old group of aunts but his will.
Any advice on dealing with hypocritical family members who can't deal with your lifestyle, and yes we have considered living in another state, but we really like his family, and most of mine.
Oh and any great comeback for these Questions:
When are you getting married?
Do you sleep in the same room?
You should stay at home let him work. (Okay not really a question)
Do you have sex?
When are you getting married? (The second time they ask)
You should return your dog, they aren’t good for children. ( not question either, but important, the dog, Argos, is my guys Birthday present and we are both still in college and well don’t really want kids period, but we haven’t told the families that because we would never hear the end of it)
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Hmmmmmm, I could say "just wait for them to die" but that's hardly an immediate solution. Are you willing to flat-out tell them to butt out? I know that can't be easy to do, and they might be offended for awhile, but hell why not? They are offending you anyway. And maybe if they're offended they'll give you the silent treatment.
Snappy comebacks:
When are you getting married? - When we want to.
Do you sleep in the same room? - That's none of your business. Yes.
You should stay at home and let him work. - What? And let him have all the fun? (or) Well we could hardly afford the house or schooling without two paychecks!
Do you have sex? - ALL THE TIME!! (getting angry might actually be a good option. If they realize you'll be flippant and pissy when they ask, they might stop)
(second) When are you getting married? - Sometime after the rapture. (or, if you feel really nasty) Right after your funeral.
You should return your dog, they aren't good for children. - Oh but they make such lovely replacements for them!
This is just me, though. I don't take crap from my family. You should have seen me when my dad asked my if I'd kissed a girl with an odd look on his face. Oooooh man! He got the point real quick, and that led to faster acceptance of the whole deal.
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hmm, web surfing for sex toys. My favorite gay friend is going to help me make a match.com thing, I should make him help me shop for toys as well.
I'm actually half serious - he is sooo not shy about anything!
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Originally posted by imaleaf:
I have a question and it is not so much about the opposite sex as it is about dealing with family when in a relationship.
Okay here is my story in a nutshell. I moved out right after I turned 18, bought a house, I work full time and go to school full time (which I pay for by myself). Anyways my family was distant (they have always been distant) but supportive and seemingly proud of my accomplishments. Then my boyfriend of a year and half moved in.
They have been demanding and bossy ever since. They have even gone as far as to say I'm living in sin. Ha, the only time I have been inside a church with anyone I'm related to was for a wedding, living in sin, bull***t. They keep telling us to get married and ask the Lord's forgiveness. GEEZE, who are these people, we have had people pregnant out of wedlock more than once in my family's history. Now granted everyone was married before the birth, but I'm not pregnant. So I should clarify it is not my whole family just this gossipy group of old women I am forced to call Aunt. My parents and brother are fine with it and supportive. It is just that these women make ALL holidays HELL. My guy is very supportive and his family thinks it is a great idea. Living together, see if it works before exchanges vows. So this just makes them clash when ever they run into each other. My family won’t stand up to old group of aunts but his will.
Any advice on dealing with hypocritical family members who can't deal with your lifestyle, and yes we have considered living in another state, but we really like his family, and most of mine.
Oh and any great comeback for these Questions:
When are you getting married? WHY ARE YOU GONNA PAY FOR IT?
Do you sleep in the same room? WHY? WANNA COMPARE SEX POSITIONS?
You should stay at home let him work. (Okay not really a question) WHY SHOULD HE HAVE ALL THE FUN?
Do you have sex? SEE ANSWER ABOVE
When are you getting married? (The second time they ask) WELL, YOU WILL KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT WHEN AND IF YOU RECEIVE THE INVITE
You should return your dog, they aren’t good for children. ( not question either, but important, the dog, Argos, is my guys Birthday present and we are both still in college and well don’t really want kids period, but we haven’t told the families that because we would never hear the end of it) WE DON'T HAVE KIDS, DOGS ARE MAN'S BEST FRIEND, AND IF THE HYPOTHECTICAL KID DOESN'T LIKE THE DOG I GUESS WE COULD RETURN THE HYPOTHECTICAL KID
~~River: Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logics. Doesn't make sense.~~
I am a bad bad person
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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Ha! That's funny! We came up with the same answer to one of the questions!
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imaleaf, I concur with my esteemed thread-mates. If you are supporting yourself, and it seems you are, then they should have no say-so in your life (not that they should have anyway, I am just making my point more solid here). It is ok to tell relatives to go pound sand. Sometimes, that is the only way they will understand you. Niceness doesn't work, try veiled hostility...that doesn't work, go for the overt. I am not saying go Reaver on their asses, but make it absolutely clear that you have no intention on putting up with their go se anymore. Live your own life and enjoy it while you can.
I like the others' answers to your questions, so I am going to leave them be.
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I think I should clarify something. I am not by any means a pushover I don't just take their crap. I am just running out of my own snappy comebacks.
I think the best way to explain it is when I tell them to "go pound sand" they tell me:
They are only telling me the truth
Looking out for me
Don't mean to upset me, just wanna help
Imagine Simons mother saying any of those things.....you got it? Yep that how they say it
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Morning.
Looks like the posts doubled after I signed off yesterday.
Let me see if I can catch up.
In no particular order:
Threesomes with another guy? Don't think I could, then again there have been lots of things I thought I could not do. Just have a slight aversion to penises not my own. Not prudish or homophobic, just not my thing. Sure it's all about her, but if I'm uncomfortable I won't be able to give my best effort and might as well be making sandwiches for them.
Toys? Hey, we're all on the same team working towards the same goal. Show me what to do and I'll help. I'm a quick learner on the important stuff. Just keep me involved and there won't be a problem.
Masturbation? Well not gonna leave you guys out there on your own Vinterdraken and Tristan. I have on occasion. Maybe once or twice, during a 5 year and most recently a 3 year bout with celibacy. If it had not been for me taking the initiative, I might have started taking hostages.
It's healthy to a point but a poor substitution for the real thing. I tend to agree with Heinlein, " Masturbation is cheap, clean, convenient, and free of any possibility of wrongdoing—and you don't have to go home in the cold. But it's lonely."
As far as positions, it depends on the mood. Cowgirl is fun but overenthusiastic partners have led to a few injuries and made me cautious. I prefer missionary because it allows me better control of technique.
As far as nosey relatives, the only thing I can do is stonewall them. It aggravates them to no end to not know what I'm doing.
And I take great pleasure in it.
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Ive got a pondering. Although its probebly been discussed a thousand times in the previous imponderables.
Masturbation, good or bad?
(Starting from the Top and Working My Way Down ... THE THREAD! I MEAN the thread. Y'all got smutty minds!)
Masturbation good. Good to a point, I should say.
I write erotica. I also read erotica. So usually after a hot writing session, I gotta do something, and my primary lover is 300 miles away! Seldom need more turn-on than my own imagination, though.
Two notes:
For girls; excessive use of heavy-duty vibrator devices can reduce sensitivity over time. Once a week or so isn't going to hurt a thing, but if you're plugging in the Wahl Vibe and going at it for an hour every night, be careful.
For guys; regular face down masturbation which places alot of pressure on the tool can eventually cause a similar type of lack of sensitivity, and even nerve damage that can result in erectile dysfuntion.
Outside of that kind of unintentional damage, GO FOR IT! It's FUN! It feels good! (Just don't do it in the bathroom when your roommates are trying to get ready for work.)
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I shop at GoodVibes.Com!
They are FEMALE friendly. They have shops in San Francisco and Berkely, and their staff is knowledgeable, friendly, and fun.
Their website is bright, cheery and secure, and if you have questions, you can usually find the answer in the FAQ's and the reviews. You can even call and talk to a real person to get the answers and advice you want.
GoodVibes is Good!
If you want toy recommendations, I'd be happy to help.
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I would like to bring up the subtopic of war injuries……… and by this I mean three possibilities:
1. Injuries to yourself
2. Injuries to partner
3. Injuries to property
Me? Well I broke my wrist once, and gave myself concussion another time.
Partner? Well I had one guy bust his lip on a headboard, and one guy pull a groin muscle.
Property? Broke a fan, box fan not ceiling; broke a bed, a lawn chair, and a curtain rod.
~~River: Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logics. Doesn't make sense.~~
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If you want toy recommendations, I'd be happy to help.
Gah!
*blushing, hand over face, blushing more*
Maybe I'll shop around and get back to you on that when I'm less blushy...
yourealeaf: I too have had insane family communication issues... Have you tried making a game of it? Set yourself and your boy a challenge next time you're around the Old Cronies. Like, plan in advance to get them arguing about the best diapers or ask them about sexual positions or how to stay in shape while if you're at home tending house all the time (do they do Jane Fonda videos? vacuumign techniques?) They may guess that you're making fun, but not be entirely sure...
The point being, they're never going to change. But if you view it as a form of entertainment, it doesn't have to drag you down.
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War injuries...I am assuming we are talking about during the act...if not, there are too many to list...
To myself: I have thrown out my back, resulting in a hospital visit a few days later, sprained my knee, and received multiple bruises and cuts after falling from the top of a bunk bed...she managed to not fall.
To my partner: Of course, banging the head against a headboard, multiple impacts while moving around, rugburns...those are all typical. I try to be gentle, but there are always accidents.
To property: Broken two beds, a window, a toilet bowl tank, put a body-shaped hole in drywall, shower curtain rod, knocked a sink off the wall, shredded the seat and roof upholstery in the back seat of my car, and collapsed a desk. Those are what comes to mind right now.
Of course, if I tried half that stuff now, I would end up in the hospital for sure!
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Good Morning BROWNCOATS.
Sure missed alot. So war stories. Lets see...
1. Partner ripped out a large chunk of hair. Later found out my scalp had a small tear. Partner broke my right big toe on the dismount.
2. Other than hurt pride and fatigue, none that I'm aware of.
3. Dented the hood of my old Firebird, pushed out a hotel window in Reno, and knocked over a vanity, (broke mirror).
Do broken hearts count as "war injuries"?
Jayne: I was gonna get me an ear too.
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I would like to bring up the subtopic of war injuries……… and by this I mean three possibilities:
1. Injuries to yourself
2. Injuries to partner
3. Injuries to property
Me? Well I broke my wrist once, and gave myself concussion another time.
Partner? Well I had one guy bust his lip on a headboard, and one guy pull a groin muscle.
Property? Broke a fan, box fan not ceiling; broke a bed, a lawn chair, and a curtain rod.
~~River: Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logics. Doesn't make sense.~~
Holy crap! See, this is why my LoveSac is my favorite thing in the world; no headboard to be injured on, nothing to break.
Injuries? Nothing serious. Bumped my head a few times on the car roof; the light up there really hurts like a bitch. I didn't really pull a muscle, but I did something to it. Hurting for a few days, then I was fine. Once had a guy bite me so hard he left a major bruise that didn't go away for weeks. It didn't even feel good while he was doing it. Blech. We didn't last. Knocked a few things over, but nothing has broken except a candle.
Sorry if it was implied you were a pushover, by the way. Just seems like you have to really get in these people's faces about it. If they say they're just looking out for you or whatever, tell them you don't want them to, or that it's none of their business, or that you're a grown woman and can damn well make your own choices. Tell them you use protection or whatever you need to tell them to make them clam up. They have no right to treat you like a child.
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Tristan, it sounds like you need a big open room with lots of padding.
I can't say that I've had to many injuries. The typical bruises and carpet burns, that's all. Don't take that as being boring, I guess I'm just extra careful.
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Zoe: (without hesitation) I kill you.
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Lysander! Welcome back! Missed seeing you around!
Padded room...never thought of that! I have learned since then to be more careful...I do not heal as well as when I was younger. I still have fun, though.
Doesn't sound boring at all...seems like a few of us could learn something from you!
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Okay, a little help please. I know this is moving away from all the great discussion that has been going on but I have a question. My wife is going to Atlanta for the week and I need help finding stuff to do. We don't spend a lot of time apart so it's really boring. Any suggestions?
Simon: What if he(Mal) tells you to kill me?
Zoe: (without hesitation) I kill you.
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Everyone already had the mastrubation discussion this morning. 
Personally, I'd call her in the evening for some loving, yet naughty talk. Wow, looks like my mind found one track this morning. Time to de-rail this slow and lumering mind. ALL ABOARD!
Jayne: I was gonna get me an ear too.
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I'd recommend sending at least one text message saying how much you miss her and what you intend to do when she gets home.
Anticipation is such a wonderful thing!
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lysander- GO OUT!
Go to a coffee-shop and get a mocha and read a good book while people watching.
Take yourself to a movie- something she would never want to watch with you.
Come join us in the "Life Onboard Serenity" thread, and create a character to have fun with.
Make a list of all the foods you love and she doesn't like, then eat your way through the list.
Life shouldn't be about "My partner is gone! I have no life". It should be about, "My partner is gone. How can I fulfill myself without them?"
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Oh, the suffering, the sweet,sweet suffering.
War injuries:
I've sustained a few in my time. Nothing breaks up a romp like the near concussion of a headbump. Cracked a filling on one once and ended up with a black eye from another. I'm positive that all of my degenerative knee problems can be attributed back to the transmission hump in the backseat of the '86 Nissan I drove in high school.
Evidently, I scar easily. I have various scars from various people on my assorted parts. I never intended for them to happen but now that I'm starting to think back, maybe I should see about some safety equipment. I once sliced open my arm on a bed rail, not too deep, but the sheets looked like I had slaughtered a goat. Other than that just the usual amount of sprains, friction burns, and scratches.
Property-wise, I've been pretty responsible.
Just the odd lamp or oscilating fan has met with my wrath. Partner-wise just bumps and bruises. I seem to alway bear the brunt of the misadventures.
A padded room sounds like a safe change of pace. Wonder how much it costs to rent on of those inflatable moonwalk things at the carnival?
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Shepard2Be, those inflatible things are NOT the way to go...it seems like a good idea at the time, but the bounciness-factor creates some really interesting flailings. Stick with a waterbed that has padded sides...
Lysander,
I agree. Take yourself to a movie, enjoy a nice dinner, and then either call or text her to tell her you love her. Being away from the significant other can be cathartic...also makes the reunion even better!
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I don't know if you would want any of these, but its pretty much what I would love to say to my biddy aunts.
When are you getting married? oh, after we've paid for your care home, of course if we cut back on that expense, maybe we could bring it forward....
Do you sleep in the same room? who said anything about sleeping? He goes like the energiser bunny *nudge wink wink* know what I mean?
You should stay at home let him work. Yes but then we'd really have to cut back on your care... would you be willing to bunk?
Do you have sex? oh hell, lots of it! With so many people - big hairy bikers are the best, you should give them a try!
You should return your dog, they aren’t good for children. yES, I heard that... 'parently children ain't that good for dogs either, gives them terrible indigestion, to fatty. (or the serious answer - actually fyi, its been proven that exposure to animals for a young age not only boosts the immune systems development, but increses the childs confidence social skills and sense of responsibility and general well being)
They are not telling you the truth, they are giving you an opinion, and if they can't see that their attitudes are making you unhappy then they really need to rethink their idea of what is best for you.
next time they start just cut them off with 'I am an adult and I will do what I feel is best for me and my partner, so with all due respect i don't want to talk about it.'
i did that with my gran and if she starts up i very pointedly change the subject or simply repeat the i'm not going to discuss it bit.
She's getting the idea.
Aunts, they're like dogs - to train them you need a firm voice, repetition and consistancy.
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KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
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I guess so, had not thought it through. Plus trying to keep the neighborhood kids out would kill the mood. 
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I have a question for all the girlies (and maybe blokes, who knows!).
Having just had a nasty leg shaving accident which resulted in the loss of about 1/2 pint of blood I am now wondering if waxing is as painful as I've always feared!
What a girl has to suffer to live up to cultural ideals!
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Hah! I may not be able to speak for waxing, but hair removal; I can help there! (Gorram Drama Dept...)
I had to have hairless legs for one show. I shaved a bit, but after the loss of blood, decided there had to be a better way. A female friend of mine introduced me to Nair. Wonderful stuff, but I learned you have to be careful with it (had bald spots on my arms and "other" locations). Waxing has always looked painful...see The 40 Year Old Virgin for an example.
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I can't help with the waxing part, or your question in general but I will say this. As a guy, I respected women so much more after shaving my legs for swimming in high school. I only cut myself once, but it took me like 15 minutes per leg. And to think you girls do this pretty much daily (during the summer at least) and fairly quickly. I'm impressed, that's all I have to say, I guess.
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Threesome with two men is one of my hottest fantasies. Sadly, at this point, it's just a fantasy. Manitou is very very straight, and although we have friends who I would LOVE to share him with that way, it's not gonna happen.
I don't see him being comfortable with me fulfilling that fantasy with other men. At least, not in this point of our relationship. However, if Orlando Bloom and Johnny Depp showed up on my doorstep tomorrow night, I would have to re-consider that whole open communications thing!
Leaina, WOW! Sometimes the fates just conspire, don't they?
lol absolutely.
A threesome was always my absolute fantasy. I think that's why the question (ie pseudo veiled suggestion) popped out. If you dont ask, you don't get...
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You threesome-friendly women with all your toys - brazen hussies! I mean it as a compliment and bow to your wisdom - and also I ask this: I have no toys, but I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad to change that. But I'm too embarrassed to go in a store! How do you shop?
Despite my brazen hussiness with the whole threesome thing, I have only just brough my first vibrator. I got it online- delivered to my house, no questions asked (fine if you're not livin with your parents). Def order one online.
To be honest, I feel really grown-up having it, but it's not much better than various impliments (although non vibrating) I found to do the same job.
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Waxing hurts, but not as much as people think. Tried it once at a party (long and funny story...) anyway, it hurts alot less after a couple of beers
You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!
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i've waxed my legs once, using those pre-waxed strips, (i'll find out the name if you are interested)
Having waxed my eyebrows before (the first one was fine but the second one hurt like stink, and it felt like my forhead had turned to itchy plastic for two days) I wasn't keen to do it.
But you know what, it hardly hurt at all. Get a ruler or plastic cd case and run it up the skin on your leg quite firmly and quickly - thats rougly what it feels like.
I did both of my legs in under half an hour and 'cause the (cold) wax was stuck to a piece of paper and not liquid it was not messy at all. And it wasn't too expensive, as you could re-use each strip several times, so i needed less than one box (though i'm not naturally very hairy - even after a winter of infrequent shaving you can't really see the hairs) so if you have thicker hair it might be different.
I have a friend as well who swears by epilators, (the roller things that pluck the hairs out) you can get one now with a bit you can freeze first, so that it numbs the skin first.
The only things I would not wax (myself anyway) is my underarms (i've heard so many horror stories, plus the hair grows in so many directions, getting the angle you need is anatomically impossible) and bikini line (mainly because you can't see what you are doing, ending up with a lopsided, ahem, 'topiary' isn't fun (but apparently, its not half as painful as you would expect it to be down their.)but i can't speak from experience.
As for war wounds,
I do remember once, we were on my couch, which was this glorified park bench affair, the cushions had slipped, and without knowing my head was under one of the back beams. So being all concerned, he attempt to pull me down a little out from under it - at exactly the same time I decided to lift my head. Ouch.
Other than that, just the occaisional bruise. And one case of carpet burn. That absolutely kills. Trust me, polyester carpets, not a good idea!
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FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
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Toys are super fun and can inhance your love life a lot. The simplest vibrator is my favorite. Gets the job done quickly and simply. We've got a fun sex drawer full of neato enhancments. Don't be afraid to go to the porn shop take a few friends and make an adventure out of it. The funniest thing is to stand in the middle of the isle near people. Folks are so funny about their kink.
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Okay, I have not heard of any guys and their mowing of happy land. I have to admit that on occasion I must. But I am lucky at the fact I grow a minimal amount of body hair. Yay Me! Will never try the wax. I may be tough but not that tough. Try pulling nose hairs. That takes cajones.
EDIT: Wassup COPILOT. Isn't messing with people at the naughty store the best.
Jayne: I was gonna get me an ear too.
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yes, I've heard terrible things about nose hairs
*shudder*
oh, and back onto war wounds - I poked a guy in the eye once! I felt awful!
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FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
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He he! I have to tell you about my first sex shop experience. I was 17 and determined to be super cool and sophisticated about buying my first vibrator. I walked into the shop and headed straight for the toys, no sidling through the undies for me! With a calm and unembarrased smile I broused the display rack, picked one up to examine it then put it back. Unfortunately it went off and somehow set the others off too. They all started jumping around on the shelf and several fell off and knocked over a display stand! At this point I just had to flee from the shop in mortification. I went back the next week when there was a different assistant on the desk!
By the way Seryn, thanks for the advice. I may try those strips you mention!
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Wows, I've never set off a toy in the store! I don't think they keep batteries in them, there. Are you sure it wasn't someone messing with you? If it was a remote-controlled toy they could have set it off from the counter; I saw a girl doing that once in my local store.
Waxing, yeah I can't help you. I've always shaved. There are a lot of razers you can buy that minimize cuts. Disposable razers always carve up my legs no matter how careful I am. I need the fancy ones.
To men that shave their legs: it is actually harder for you as you have more prominent bones in the calf so there are a few more angles to deal with.
On a side note; I do love a man with a mowed lawn! My ex used an electric razor for his face, and would often use it to shave down there. He was delightfully fuzzy without there being too much hair.
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But you have to try out the toys before you buy! Well, I don't mena try out 'cos that would be all manner of unhygenic, but get a feel for how powerful they are. That's why all the best shops have tester models. I've heard that the best way to try them is to hold them against the tip of your nose (there are a lot of nerve endings there).
As for shaving the goodies, I tried that once. It was just so itchy for days! I'd have thought it would drive the men nuts (excuse the pun!)
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Yes, sometimes there are testers out, especially for a new product. I tend to just hold them in my palm to test. There was one once that rotated and had pearls in the shaft; I actually blushed while holding it and didn't have the guts to pick it up again. Of course this was a few years ago. I was still an innocent (well, more innocent) virgin back then! 
It does itch for awhile when you first start shaving, but it goes away if you keep at it for about two weeks. And it's not really the same for men, as the location is different and they don't have... secretions to irritate the skin that's not used to it. I find I really like being shaved now just for hygene; hair holds things. It's easier to be clean without hair in the way. (this holds just as true for armpits) I don't shave everything because then I feel like a plucked chicken, but at least half. I have to motivate myself to do it every day now that it's just for me and not anyone else. Same with my legs, actually.
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Ok, I've been following this thread, but here's my first post. Just because it seems timely!
Just watch it for a minute.
Deb 
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By the way, my answer to that would be 'if it were Chrisitan Bale on one side and Sawyer from Lost on the other, honey i'm there already...
*starts drooling on keyboard*
Ummm, you don't mind sharing do you?
Wow, this certainly has been an interesting imponderables thread. Many kudos to Tristan for resurrecting it.
Did have a question regarding vibrators. Any advice for those who are too shy to go into stores or has a nosy parent living at home?
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Originally posted by EmmaRigby:
I have a question for all the girlies (and maybe blokes, who knows!).
Having just had a nasty leg shaving accident which resulted in the loss of about 1/2 pint of blood I am now wondering if waxing is as painful as I've always feared!
What a girl has to suffer to live up to cultural ideals!
Actually, when I first left the midwest, I had my rebellion phase and didn't shave for like 3 years. Legs that is - I can't deal with underarm hair! But it was refreshing to not care, and now it doesn't stress me at all to miss a few weeks (or months, in the winter).
In the summer, I do the waxing myself. It's shockingly non-painful for me. The bikini wax stings, but it lasts for like 2 months with no razor burn so hell ya it's worth it! My leg hair comes back in only 2 weeks, so I've settled for shaving for now. It is annoying, but looks so much nicer to not much hair!
Sweetserendipity - that's the funniest thing ever!!!
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Did have a question regarding vibrators. Any advice for those who are too shy to go into stores or has a nosy parent living at home?
We did mention that there were places that would ship in discrete packaging, didn't we? I also suggest getting a "hide a vibe" pillow to keep nosy parents from stumbling across such items.
Can I just ask why y'all are shy about stores? They are not that bad! I go all the time (to the point where the folk there don't even card me anymore) and have never had a problem. I started going just because I could - I was excited about being of age - and I just kinda kept going back. At the very least, it's good for a laugh to see some of the stuff they have. Then of course there's the pretties; lingerie and toys. Both are my friends.
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Well, that's unsettlin'. (The vibrator icon, I mean)
Morning, all!
Going to be a busy day here, so I'll post quick and pop back in when I can...
Last thing I saw was regarding lawn mowing. I have done that once completely...the scratchiness as it was growing back drove me batty. Now, I try to keep the area neatly trimmed and every now and again do some close shaving. I am sure the other guys who have done this know that there is nothing that compares to nicking some of the loose flesh down there. Ever heard a man scream like a little girl? That'll do it every time.
I actually like the feeling of having very little hair down there on me. It intensifies the slippery feeling, and all that damn hair doesn't get everywhere. On females, I tend to lean towards either shaved or lightly fuzzy.
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I feel like such a Treadkiller all the time. I think its just timing. So the interesting part is I don't feel like the Lone Ranger. Maybe all you great BROWNCOATS want to be The Lone Rangers? I maybe Native, and don't mind being called Tanto from time to time, but I do love the mask. How about role playing? A girl I was seeing years ago liked going places with me, (seperately), and pretending like we were other people. After flirting with other people for a few hours we'd connect in front of all the flirts and leave together. Sounds a bit strange but it was quite exciting. Anyone else tried this? How about the whole costume thing? I love Halloween. 
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We did mention that there were places that would ship in discrete packaging, didn't we? I also suggest getting a "hide a vibe" pillow to keep nosy parents from stumbling across such items.
Can I just ask why y'all are shy about stores? They are not that bad! I go all the time (to the point where the folk there don't even card me anymore) and have never had a problem. I started going just because I could - I was excited about being of age - and I just kinda kept going back. At the very least, it's good for a laugh to see some of the stuff they have. Then of course there's the pretties; lingerie and toys. Both are my friends.
I did notice the part about discreet shipping, but I have the type of parent that would ask (probably in a relentless manner) exactly what I ordered, not to mention the fact that I currently don't have a credit card (which is required at many online stores). As far as the shyness goes, it's not so much going into the store (I've been with friends) it's actually purchasing said merchandise. Don't know if I'd be able to pull it off without constant stammering and blushing.
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We did mention that there were places that would ship in discrete packaging, didn't we? I also suggest getting a "hide a vibe" pillow to keep nosy parents from stumbling across such items.
Can I just ask why y'all are shy about stores? They are not that bad! I go all the time (to the point where the folk there don't even card me anymore) and have never had a problem. I started going just because I could - I was excited about being of age - and I just kinda kept going back. At the very least, it's good for a laugh to see some of the stuff they have. Then of course there's the pretties; lingerie and toys. Both are my friends.
I did notice the part about discreet shipping, but I have the type of parent that would ask (probably in a relentless manner) exactly what I ordered, not to mention the fact that I currently don't have a credit card (which is required at many online stores). As far as the shyness goes, it's not so much going into the store (I've been with friends) it's actually purchasing said merchandise. Don't know if I'd be able to pull it off without constant stammering and blushing.
Believe me, I have the same nosy mother! She actually opens my post 'by mistake' all the time!I tried actually being honest with her once, when she asked what I'd been buying I told her I'd got a vibrator. She was a bit shocked but also really curious. She wanted to see it and kept asking questions as to how it worked. Turns out I'm less liberated than I thought for instead of educating and enlightening her I blushed bright red and had to run away singing 'La la la!'' with my fingers in my ears. Intellectually I know that my parents know about sex but emotionally I just can't deal with it!
As to being embarrassed buying stuff, just think how many blushing people they see in a day. And it's not like you'll ever see them again. Just don't let them push batteries on you. They always charge too much.
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Trust me here, deepgirl, no one who works at a place like that is going to think less of you. Think about the kinds of things they have, the kind of things that sell, and put an innocent vibrator next to it. Places that sell porn tapes have some crazy things; not to mention the various other toys that are available. To them, you are the most normal person they are likely to see in an hour. Nothing is going to phase them and yes, they are also used to nervous customers. I have found many of them to be very friendly, willing to answer any questions in a professional manner, and only judgmental of the people who hang outside staring in the windows hoping to catch a glimpse of someone trying on something skimpy (these people are promptly dealt with and are practicing an excercise in futility anyway). For serious, do not worry about it. As you don't have a credit card and your mom won't keep out of your business, a store is the best way to go. Even if you do stammer and blush and drop your money, as long as you get out with what you wanted, you win.
Emma, no offense, but your mother should be arrested. Not sure how it works in your part of the world, but here opening someone else's mail (particularly if it happens more than once or twice) is a Federal offense. There's no excuse for being that nosy and disrespectful. Glad you tried to stand up for yourself, though; I can't believe she started asking how it 'worked'! Even my liberal mother wouldn't be that bad!
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I'll cast my vote with the fans of less body hair! I don't mind a little, but I love a nice clean chest (mmmm-Mal!)
Hey you brazen hussies - I'm not proud of being all embarrassed about buying smutty things, but that's how I am! Part of mywholesome midwest upbringing, but hopefully I'll get over it. I got over being embarrassed about buying tampons!
Whoa - new topic. Have any of you ladies dated men who had absolutely no tolerance for period talk? I mean, I understand the fellas don't want to hear details, but I've known man that seemed to think they should exist without knowing about it at all, other than an undiscussed lack of sex once a month. As if a menstrual cycle is a thing of shame that would dirty their souls if they knew too much about it. (I lived in the armpit of the midwest, remember?)
Of course, a few of the old guys I work with will start chatting about their prostrate health at coffee breaks (I have an interesting work place) and I make fun of them, so maybe I shouldn't complain...
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Emma, no offense, but your mother should be arrested. Not sure how it works in your part of the world, but here opening someone else's mail (particularly if it happens more than once or twice) is a Federal offense. There's no excuse for being that nosy and disrespectful. Glad you tried to stand up for yourself, though; I can't believe she started asking how it 'worked'! Even my liberal mother wouldn't be that bad!
How's your burn? Did you aloe it?
She was very sorry when I told her off about it and promised to try never to do it again. She's a lot better now that she's got herself a job and is getting out the house a bit. Now she's not so bored that she has to live her life vicariously through me!
The burn is getting better thanks but it's just where my rucksack sits. Ouch!
About those shop assistants. I have never met anyone who works in one of the nicer type of shops who wasn't friendly and helpful. I even got to flirting with the guy last weekend! We were laughing at the management's ter4rible descision to use see-through plastic bags! It meant he had to wrap everything in pretty black tissue paper so people wouldn't be embarrassed on the bus!
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I did date one guy who didn't even want to hear the word "period" for a very brief time. It was funny because he wanted to go swimming with me, and I told him it would have to wait about a week, and he kept asking me why, so I finally told him my period had just started and he totally freaked out! Since then, though, not really a problem. They get used to it. My last boyfriend didn't even feel "tainted", so to speak, if we got it on during that particular event. I minded more than he did, actually. I also got over it.
They should be able to deal with it. For one thing, a man should pamper and take care of his lady if she is suffering from debillitating cramps. For another, he has every right to know why you're not in the "mood". Many men don't always get it, and think they've done something wrong. Sure, just as we might not want to hear details of their prostate trouble, they might not want to hear details of our bleeding and/or yeast infections, but knowing that it happens is something I see as important. It's all part of general health and it's very natural. So if he's no compfortable with it, I say "Bah!"
Clear bags from a sex shop - hilarious!
My local shop wraps things in black tissue paper, too. The bags are also black.
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M4P- In an office of mostly women I get the various discussions from sex to relationships to diarrea and of course the dreaded period. I have an iamaginary board set up, (Kinda like Bugs Bunny when he does some calculating). Whenever the discussions get too detailed, I lick the end of my finger and make a mark next to their names. They all know that maybe they should close the door or go somewhere else with their discussion. Okay, they mostly just laugh. So from a guy that has bought LARGE boxes and tampons and pregnancy tests, those guys need to man up or get out. If a guy can't deal with the good and bad parts of the female anatomy, they should just go gay and leave the women to us real men. Not to mention I have told all the ladies in my office that I will be giving a detailed account of my prostate exam complete with diagrams and pictures. You know, make a day out of it. There is a reason to look forward to turning thirty.
Side note: I know it may be out of place with all the prostate talk and all, but I am very pleased with the fact that many ladies these days prefer the toys to the boys. It helps the men like me to be more confident with prospective partners knowing they aren't all sickafied and such by the little boys discovering themselves. Little bastards like to give girls stuff and don't tell them. I have a new slogan for me. Benchmade. Don't leave home without it.
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The funniest thing about the black plastic sex shop bags is that you only get a black bag in one of those stores. So basically it screams to the world look at me I just bought porn!!!!! Or in my part of the world look at me I'm a sexual deviant! Please ostrisize (sp?) me! I'm going to hell!
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Some of the local convinience stores here use the "black bag". Problem is they sell porn too. Since I work with kids, I ask for no bag at all. I'd rather someone see me with alcohol than the black bag. Besides, their porn sucks. Deviants don't go to hell. Right away.
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Periods have never bothered me before. I have actually had detailed conversations regarding the whole process...not that I am a dumb male that has no idea what is going on, but I am fascinated by the workings of the female body. Therefore, it is in my best interest to study up on my favorite obsession, is it not? It has been difficult up until my wife to find someone who doesn;t mind talking about it; I kinda surprised her when I showed interest and sympathy...her previous boyfriends had done the whole "lalala, not listening". I have learned a lot from our conversations. And no, sex during that time does not bother me, either.
Y'all are amazing creatures, and should be, if not worshipped for your "awesomeness", then at least highly appreciated.
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TRISTAN: Howdy from the Battle Born State.
Maybe we should start a church for them. Well, at least a place and time of worship. Perhaps a dogma or chant for all the wonderful women. Okay, at least a support group for us men who just can't get enough of them women folk.
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NVGhostrider, that sounds like a plan...but we better make sure they want it first. Seems like I remember a few posters saying they did not want to be worshipped...
We shall have to see what the consensus is...
It'll never stop me worshipping them in my heart, though.
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Maybe a BROWNCOAT womenfolk appreciation page. Sounded good about ten seconds ago but my brain suddenly told the rest of me to shut up. Sorry ladies, I do also remember a few of y'all saying that. But if we start treating some of you like crap then I might start getting laid again. Stupid brain. I need beer.
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Okay I'm starting to think I'm some sort of freak. I get emotionaly attached to everyone in my life. Not that I want to date everyone I meet but I fall in love with the person the personality immediatly. So now I have this friend that I'm not interested in dating but I really enjoy being around and probably sex on occasion soon. But he says that if there isn't going to be a relationship he doesn't want to spend as much time around me. I've been in a relationship since I turned 18 4 years ago so I'm not sure how adult friendships are supposed to go. Do I not get to have male friends now? Do I have to bind myself forever to someone if I like hanging out with them? This sounds silly but it made me want to cry.
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Some folk just hit a place in their lives where love has to have sex and vice versa. You are by no means a freak COPILOT. So don't fell like the Lone Ranger. (I'm on a whole Lone Ranger kick today. Hiho Silver, away.) I did mention that you may need some time for yourself before. If you need sex at this point it would be best to be friends with benefits rather that to start another relationship. Remember the pattern. There is always "that guy" after a serious relationship. Not always, but for the most part "that guy" is a fun guy, kind of an asshole, and will be easy to get rid of when the time comes. Just protect yourself and have fun, (I always take my Glock in times of doubt. When in doubt, pull it out. Nine millimeter automatic baby). JOKES. Its great to find someone to hangout with and bone senselessly, but there are always complications. Maybe he will see your side, maybe he won't. Time will tell. You have wings that you can fly with. Mine are just for show. Use them.
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My problem is that I don't want to be around assholes! I'm only attracted to nice smart nerdy guys! If someone opens their mouth and they sound stupid or mean I have no interest in them any longer. Maybe I'll have to get over it and just find some ass that I can dispose of when I get board.
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I'm not saying to give it a try, but who knows. Besides all men are asses, (see my previous posts). Don't fret. There is some nerdy asshole out there just waiting to run into you.
COPILOT's cruisin' for ass. Don't forget your BROWNCOAT.
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Periods have never bothered me before. I have actually had detailed conversations regarding the whole process...not that I am a dumb male that has no idea what is going on, but I am fascinated by the workings of the female body. Therefore, it is in my best interest to study up on my favorite obsession, is it not?
Y'all are amazing creatures, and should be, if not worshipped for your "awesomeness", then at least highly appreciated.
Yay! You're my hero! I think all kinds of bodies are amazing and should talked of freely - to worship or to make fun of. Bodies do funny things too, you know. Try doing a vigorous butt shake while naked. Even on a skinny person, it's very funny when it jiggles. Of course, you can't see it yourself, so you need someone to reciprocate...
NVg - I'm not so big with the worshipping, but I do like being held precious (kind of like gollum, but without the bad teeth and the lava). I don't think of that as a woman thing, all loved ones should be made to feel precious!
Copilot - I sense danger. You are too reboundy to take risks! But does this guy mean the friendship is still good? Because if he doesn't even want to be friends, what would you have to lose?
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Tristan, I think your wife is a very lucky lady!
Ghostrider - you can appreciate us all you want. What I don't like is men who are all silly about it, (oh whatever you want, whatever you say, your the bestest, you can do no wrong blah blah blah, grow a backbone!)
I just want a man whos comfortable with his masculinity and who treats me equally.
But yeah, the Female Appreciation Society is fine by me!
I think I may have to stop hanging around here. For two days now i've got the bus into work and sat admiring some guy on the way.
I'm not stupid enough to think that there are two entire hot guys in merseyside, so i think all this sex talk is skewing my perception.
oh well. Just as long as my bleary pre work mental state doesn't prompt me to do something stupid, I suppose i should just sit back and enjoy the (fantasy) view.
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Tristan, you are really quickly turning into one of my heros. I hope you don't mind a little hero worship!
The week before my period starts, Manitou takes me out to salty, greasy Mexican food, or salty, iron-rich Indian food (Palak Paneer and lamb roganshosh. The bestest pms food on the planet!). Then he will deliver to me the best of chocolate (Chocolove Red Label 55%) and a box of Yogi Womens Moon Time Tea. Then, being a wise and wonderful man, gets the HELL OUT OF MY WAY! for a week.
THEN, he shows up just on the tail end of my period with the 'additional cramping cure', of which I will not here share details, unless asked by people who really want to know.
He's the best!
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oh, you can't get coy on us now!
no, I suppose infact, yes you can get coy on us if you want.
Say, does Manitou have and English Cousin? Maybe a clone based in britain? By any chance?
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Don't feel bad. I too have had a bit of trouble away from this part of the 'verse. Ms. Incredible (what I call my crush), has been on my mind in ways that I would not usually allow. Do something but don't call it stupid. It is better to be brave and a fool than a fool and a coward. If you aren't attached, jump on it. There is only the lives we lead as individuals. Thats it. Whatever pain and triumph we have in our days is all we get. Take that end of the stick,... and , ... well take it.
P.S.I would like to list TRISTAN as a developing hero for me, but I have to get around the mancrush first.
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Thank you all! I am actually the lucky one, but I won't get all sappy. I am not a sarcastic worshipper. I honestly believe in learning as much as possible about y'all. Too many men in the world only treat women as sex objects or second-rate, and I absolutely hate that! I am just glad there are women-folk in this here 'verse that like speaking out, questioning, and sharing.
Sorry, end of sermon, on with the rest:
I try to help as best I can during that time...red meat and chocolate are always the best bets. My wife does not go through the Atilla stage, but she does get uncomfortable. I am there to help or disappear; whichever the situation calls for. And yes, SameErita, we use the same "cure"...she jokingly calls it "stirring the pot".
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NVGhostrider, thank you for that comment...makes me feel good that I am not the only one!
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DOn't get me wrong, I love having disagreements with the womenfolk of my world. And I love the ones that posess mad squabbles. I would only truly worship the one who decides to put up with my ass for a while. Besides, I can't stand guys who retract their testicles when women arrive. The whole equality thing, I can dig that. That is all I ask. Well, that and the occasional sandwich.
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That is all I ask. Well, that and the occasional sandwich.
Careful with using the word 'sandwich' around here - with all the sex talk, it could be misconstrued...
Or, is that what you meant?
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Tukey and roast beef on wheat with light mayo and some salt and pepper. Not much for the threeway, unless of course I'm in the middle. (JOKES)
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ok, equality, its a deal, we ask only for that and the occaisional back rub.
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