4th Floor - Shoes, Linens, Nice People Hidey Places

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MAL4PREZ

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 2:46 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
I was reading in the film companion interview with Joss that he fully intends to bring back everyone (yes, EVERYONE) should he get the chance to continue the series/do sequels. Something along the lines of 'no magic amulets or demon powers, but yes, i'd be bringin' 'em all back'

I lurked all those omigod-we-lost-

threads, but I can't quite get into the trauma. The trauma of losing (do I still need to be spoiler safe on this?) youknowwho, ya I get into that. Very sad! But as all 9 are signed on, and I trust Joss to bring them back in an entertaining fashion. Maybe not happy happy joy joy exactly, but it'll be good to watch. Bring it on! (fingers crossed)

So, do any of you ladies wear boycut knickers? (Nice word btw!) I have a friend who swears by em, and I like the idea, but they just don't stay put. And that's a lot of fabric to be where it don't belong. Maybe I tried the wrong brand or fabric?

m4p

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COZEN

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 2:59 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
...restricted area. Authorised personel only."

To whom it may concern,

Rest assured, not one item of cozenunderwear bears any such restrictive tag.

Yers truly, etc.,
cozen

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CALLMESERENITY

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:03 PM (P)

Most of mine are boycut and I adore them. Maybe it has to do with body shape. I have a small waist but big hips so I find that the boycuts sit nicely below my bellybutton and cover everything that needs covering. And they stay put. Plus, I think they're incredibly comfortable, and if you wear them right, you don't have an underwear line. My favourites are at PacSun. Do you have them where you are? One just opened up in my mall about 6 months ago and I am in heaven. We don't have an Old Navy or a Barnes & Noble, but we have a PacSun!

Serenity, First Officer of Destiny

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SCORPIONREGENT

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:07 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
Yes, it would be.

But it wouldn't be the first time someone's been indiscreet on this thread.

Serenity, First Officer of Destiny

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Best not ask then.

Scorpion Regent

CALLMESERENITY

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:15 PM (P)

Serenity, First Officer of Destiny

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MAL4PREZ

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:27 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
Most of mine are boycut and I adore them. Maybe it has to do with body shape. I have a small waist but big hips so I find that the boycuts sit nicely below my bellybutton and cover everything that needs covering. And they stay put. Plus, I think they're incredibly comfortable, and if you wear them right, you don't have an underwear line. My favourites are at PacSun. Do you have them where you are? One just opened up in my mall about 6 months ago and I am in heaven. We don't have an Old Navy or a Barnes & Noble, but we have a PacSun!

Serenity, First Officer of Destiny

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Hmm, PacSun. Never heard of it. I'll give a try if I find one. I have one pair of boycuts, comfy to wear around home in the summer, but with pants over they do not stay put, grrr!

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LFO

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:34 PM (P)

I have found that when wondering anything about anyone to do with film or television, I can nearly always find my answer on imdb.com - I too had the "Baldwin family" question, and solved it thusly. It also helped me figure out exactly which X-Files eps he was in so I could go back and rewatch just those - though his character wasn't ANYWHERE close to as cool :(

I worked for about a year at a Converse factory outlet (before they went broke, shut 'em all down and sold out to Nike) - so, I have about 12 pairs of Chuck Taylor's in my closet (they only cost me $10 a pair at the time), including an admittedly pink pair. I tried to use their proper name (I forgotten it now, but its some type of wine...), then tried calling them salmon, but the truth is they're pink. I'm most fond, though, of the mega-GOTH BOOTS OF DOOM(TM) - replete with 4 1/2" platforms and lots of buckles. Hard to dance in, but I sure feel like a big man when wearing them. I also feel like I'm going to topple over, but that's beside the point.

My girlfriend calls my boxers "panties." I think she taunt's me because I have more shoes than her.

I want to go to Ireland, due to my fascination with the tin whistle, and the mysterious phenom of the "pub." I'd also like to go to Germany or any Scandanavian country during one of the big goth music festivals - I may be to much of a poseur to deal with "The Scene" for the length of a full festival, though :)

SCORPIONREGENT

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:41 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
I was reading in the film companion interview with Joss that he fully intends to bring back everyone (yes, EVERYONE) should he get the chance to continue the series/do sequels. Something along the lines of 'no magic amulets or demon powers, but yes, i'd be bringin' 'em all back'

I lurked all those omigod-we-lost- threads, but I can't quite get into the trauma. The trauma of losing (do I still need to be spoiler safe on this?) youknowwho, ya I get into that. Very sad! But as all 9 are signed on, and I trust Joss to bring them back in an entertaining fashion. Maybe not happy happy joy joy exactly, but it'll be good to watch. Bring it on! (fingers crossed)

m4p

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"I have a Master's degree ... in science!"

Danger! Scorpion is about to type blasphemy! I think that there is really no risk of being a spoiler at this point. The movie was out how long ago? I have to say that if the great god Whedon, the creator of the sacred sagas, chooses to do the rest of his Serenity / Firefly work in flashback/prequel with a complete crew so to speak then I'm all in favor of it. I felt that the movie got away from the thing that made the show great, smallness. The Serenity is a small ship in a huge 'verse. It's people are normal people, they are not meant to save the galaxy, they are too busy saving themselves. Like it or hate it I'm going to use the original Highlander movie to prove my point. The very first movie Connor MacCloud wins the Prize, game over. At that point everything else is small potatoes. Yes I loved that a small hobbit saved all of middle earth, but Serenity is something else. Joss made it unrealistic to make any movies that lie further down the timeline that aren't a big let down from the first movie. Any movies that are set in a time previous to the first movie are all ready damaged by the fact that you know who survives and where everything is leading. In my opinion Joss blew it! I'm not saying it was his idea. I'm guessing it was the fault of the producers, they often have more dollars than sense. Still the movie has been made and there is no going back. I loved the movie, no doubt. However I feel that I have just eaten at a most fabulous banquet with the knowledge that I'll be eating mac and cheese, rice and beans, cabbage and potatoes for the rest of my life.

I'm sorry, but that's been festering inside me for a long time now and it just leaped out.

Scorpion Regent

SCORPIONREGENT

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:44 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:

Serenity, First Officer of Destiny

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It's okay I have a overactive imagination, anyways.

Scorpion Regent

MAL4PREZ

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 4:32 PM (P)

Ya know, I can't really disagree with Scorpion's blasphemy. Except I wouldn't mind our BDH's getting involved in the big time if only we'd had 2-3 seasons of them being lovable small-timers before it happened.

Curses, F*X!!!

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SCORPIONREGENT

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 4:43 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
Ya know, I can't really disagree with Scorpion's blasphemy. Except I wouldn't mind our BDH's getting involved in the big time if only we'd had 2-3 seasons of them being lovable small-timers before it happened.

Curses, F*X!!!

Ask Dr. Science ... he knows more than you do.
"I have a Master's degree ... in science!"

Yeah except that they aren't heros, with the exception of the movie. They're anti-heros, but they're trying. Hey just look at Jayne, the man is a flippin' mercanery for criminey's sake. Some times thay are Robinhoods, other times they're just robbers. Need another memory jog:
Let's be bad guys!
There is black and white and grey in the FF 'verse. The scary thing is I like it that way.

Scorpion Regent

SCORPIONREGENT

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 4:43 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
Ya know, I can't really disagree with Scorpion's blasphemy. Except I wouldn't mind our BDH's getting involved in the big time if only we'd had 2-3 seasons of them being lovable small-timers before it happened.

Curses, F*X!!!

Ask Dr. Science ... he knows more than you do.
"I have a Master's degree ... in science!"

Yeah except that they aren't heros, with the exception of the movie. They're anti-heros, but they're trying. Hey just look at Jayne, the man is a flippin' mercanery for criminey's sake. Some times thay are Robinhoods, other times they're just robbers. Need another memory jog:
Let's be bad guys!
There is black and white and grey in the FF 'verse. The scary thing is I like it that way.

Scorpion Regent

CALLMESERENITY

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 4:45 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by ScorpionRegent:
Quote:
Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:

Serenity, First Officer of Destiny

I have a live journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/callmeserenity/

It's okay I have a overactive imagination, anyways.

Scorpion Regent

Oh dear!

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MAL4PREZ

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 4:59 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by ScorpionRegent:
There is black and white and grey in the FF 'verse. The scary thing is I like it that way.

I totally agree! I love the whole "western hero of questionable morals" thing (OK, and the fact that Nathan's so damn hot - that helps too.) I hope Mal doesn't turn into an annoying Andromeda I-used-to-be-Hercules type of captain. I like seeing him flounder around in the ethical morass.

I must remind myself to have faith in Joss to keep Mal dark the way I like him. I got no worries about Jayne, I can't see him turning into Picard's number one guy anytime soon. **shudders in horror**

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JADEHAND

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 6:31 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:
Most all of my clothing is Black. As you said, it makes matching so much easier. Sure I have various colored dress shirts to wear with my black slacks and black silk tie. Pink just doesn't work for me *sniff*.

That's a shame, because you look so nice in warm colours. That orange "let's be bad guys" shirt of yours is a great colour for you. You should wear more brown, you look good in brown. (Course, I think we should all wear more brown!)

Serenity, Browncoat Fashion Consultant

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I have a coat of a brownish color. It was on sale. Unfortunantely it's not a "Browncoat", just a brown coat. I like the "bad guys " shirt too. I'd like to find a place to order another as some of the design is "Flaking".

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CALLMESERENITY

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 6:53 PM (P)

Any brown coat is a browncoat. Isn't that the point?

I have a brown coat. It's a vintage velvet jacket that I bought at a thrift store in Philly a bazillion years ago for $3. I ADORE it.

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CITIZEN

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 8:08 PM (P)

I don't have a browncoat ...

But then I work for the Gov, so really I need a purplebelly...

How's everyone today?

Quote:
Originally posted by TWG:
My warning label reads "INFORMATION: thatweirdgirl is arestricted area. Authorised personel only."

I have a three mile exclusion zone, does that count?

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
Remember, the ice caps aren't melting, the water is being liberated.

LIGHTMEDARK

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 9:47 PM (P)

haha, you guys have my head spinning (granted the semi hitting me probably didn't help much ;D).

I have a brown (leather) coat which is currently at the laundromat people. It was full of blood from my recent accident (which I have been told roughly eighty million times that I should not have survived). Now everyone that sees me post here would probably call me a negative person. Should I take my still being here, surviving that accident, as a sign that I should indeed be here? or should I continue tearing myself down ;D?

Please forgive me, I'm still rather looped from the wreck. Carry on with the lovely thread and the talking of undergarments and the like, haha

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inch towards daylight

CITIZEN

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 9:57 PM (P)

LMD:
Really glad to hear your okay, hope you fully recover soon.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
Remember, the ice caps aren't melting, the water is being liberated.

SERYN

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 10:09 PM (P)

Aw, I didn't know about the accident, hope you feel better soon.

the way i see it, your here, so you may as well believe it's meant to be, theres not much point in thinkin' otherwise.

Not very helpful really, but we're glad your still here.

Boy cuts, if they are what i think they are, are the best, comefy, neat flatterin' on the ass, and best of all, no vpl!

(was that all right?)

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

BLACKEYEDGIRL

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 10:14 PM (P)

M4P: I only have like 2 pairs of those 'boy cut' knickers. Mine are made by maidenform and I got them at a kohl's. They are the only ones that I have ever tried that didn't take a voyage on my bum. The other pairs I have I don't wear because of bum-voyage (hehe say it out loud its all punnerific). The Victoria's secret microfibery ones were okay but I don't think they make them anymore. I agree with CMS when she says that she thinks they are very body specific. I have 'junk in the trunk' and so they have a tendancy to ride up if my pants are too tight. Although I swear by boycut bottoms on swim suits!

Scorpion Regent: Just so you know VS carries a very restrictive size list, they only carry the most common sizes, so that means anything outside of the norm isn't carried. Fredrick's of Hollywood carries damn near any size the earth creates. What I am trying to say is that just cos they don't carry it doesn't mean they are gigantic, it just means they are unique. Unique boobs are awesome.

I gots a brown-ish colored pea-coat that looks a lot like Zoe's browncoat! I have my Chicagoland Browncoats pin on it and in winter wear it exclusively with my Jayne hat. And I wonder why I can't get a date...

LMD: glad to hear you are alive and well enough. I think you've gotta believe in some higher power to believe that you were spared and are meant to be here. I don't so don't look to me to be assigning meaning to your survival. Although I think that cos you did it's a sign that maybe you were beginning to travel down the right path and now you will get to continue as such. Remember, not everyone gets a second chance to live their life, use it wisely. (and be a bit more optimistic. I'm not a pessimist, I'm a misanthrope, I hate people, but I think things can always get better ;) )

Should we get a 5th floor open soon?

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LIGHTMEDARK

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 10:15 PM (P)

Thanks for the affection everyone...no reason anyone should know I was in an accident unless they live in the middle of nowhere as I do :p. I should heal up fine, miraculously or not ;)

-edit-lol, BEG, yeah i'm misanthropic, as well. pessimistic, yes. i like to call it realistic ;p

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inch towards daylight

SERYN

Wednesday, December 7, 2005 10:27 PM (P)

Quote:

I'm not a pessimist, I'm a misanthrope, I hate people, but I think things can always get better ;) )

oh my god, BEG, I love you, you've just managed, in one sentence to win me an argument I've been having with my folks since I was fifteen.

Thank you!

And as for the zoe coat, jayne hat combo, I think it sounds adorable, Itried a jayne style hat on in a shop the other day and couldn't stop laughing at myself in the mirror, every time i looked, fresh peals, and i couldn't get the hat off, had to be rescued, couldn't draw breath.

needless to say, i'm still hat-less today, regularly loosing sensation in my ears, i wish i had a hat...

try wearing the coat with tight jeans and knee high boots over them, you'd look a bit daft in the snow, but men apparently adore the ol' boots and hey, you'd be fashionable. in London if nowhere else...

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

JADEHAND

Thursday, December 8, 2005 12:27 AM (P)

LMD: Perhaps it's a sign that The Powers THat Be just aren't done with you yet. Might be time to build yourself up now.

SERYN: ummmm what's VPL?

BEG: "bum-voyage" , "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a misanthrope, I hate people, but I think things can always get better ;) )"

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CYBERSNARK

Thursday, December 8, 2005 12:39 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
I don't have a browncoat ...

Neither do I.

"I didn't fight in no war. Best of luck, though."

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

CALLMESERENITY

Thursday, December 8, 2005 5:21 AM (P)

Let's see if I can remember everything.

LMD: I hope that this accident will remind you (and all of us) that each day is a precious gift and that we can choose how we spend it. We can try to make a positive impact on our world and the people around us, or we can waste it away. I'm a realist, too, but when I give myself time to just observe my world it takes my breath away with its beauty and perfection and possibilities.

BEG: I wear my brown coat with my brown knee high boots all the time (I prefer to wear my boots with a short skirt) and I LOVE how it looks.

Seryn: I made myself a Jayne hat and then I knitted a scarf to go with it. I'm just waiting for it to get cold enough so I can wear them in public. Maybe I'll run into another browncoat! Who knows?

SR: Victoria's Secret only stocks cup sizes A-D.

I don't know what this vpl is, either. And I'm not sure I want to know.

I CAN'T SLEEP! Someone shoot me or knock me in the head or something, please!!!

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SCORPIONREGENT

Thursday, December 8, 2005 5:41 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
Aw, I didn't know about the accident, hope you feel better soon.

the way i see it, your here, so you may as well believe it's meant to be, theres not much point in thinkin' otherwise.

Not very helpful really, but we're glad your still here.

Boy cuts, if they are what i think they are, are the best, comefy, neat flatterin' on the ass, and best of all, no vpl!

(was that all right?)

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'[/QUOTE

VPL?

Scorpion Regent

SCORPIONREGENT

Thursday, December 8, 2005 6:05 AM (P)

I can't say for certain I have a browncoat either. I have a corduroy jacket that's a darker shade of tan.

Blackeyedgirl: I am aware that there is great lingerie injustice in the world. I am aware that most of the clothes made for women are in sizes that do not fit most of the women. I know that there are not enough women's restrooom stalls at public places. How is it I know these things in spite of my Y chromosone? Even I have my secrets.

Scorpion Regent

MAL4PREZ

Thursday, December 8, 2005 2:14 PM (P)

Morning! What, are ya'all heading up to the fifth floor already?

Scorpion - you are wise beyond your chromosomes.

LMD - glad you're OK! My sister was in one of those, hit the front and back tires of a dumptruck with the front and back end of her car and somehow she walked away fine. Shook us all up big time for a few days. Take it easy on yourself, ok?

BEG - hmm, maidenform at Kohl's. That I can find. Put an end to the bum-voyage!!

See you upstairs in a bit!

m4p

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CALLMESERENITY

Thursday, December 8, 2005 3:12 PM (P)

Gave up on maidenform years ago. Plus, we don't have a Kohls here.

I buy Wykel mostly. I can find them at Dillards. Expensive, but worth the money and not hideous! You girls want to figure out how to keep white knickers white, I want someone to invent an affordable, comfortable, functional bra that looks cute and comes in actual colours! (white, beige and black are NOT colours. They're monotones.) Oh, and it can't have poking underwire or more than 3 hooks in the back. And no thick or padded straps! (I have quite a list of demands!)

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SERYN

Thursday, December 8, 2005 4:44 PM (P)

Right, (dons her scholars cap, raps on the blackboard with a cane, flinches)

VPL, or visible-panty-line is, er, visible panty line.

when you can see the outline of your underwear through your clothes, or worse, you can see the flesh bulging out either side of too-tight elastic or summat, not a good look, it what g-strings and thongs were invented to combat, but they don't work, the only way you can avoid it is if the whole of the fabric is elasticated and not just the waist band and leg holes, even if the pants fit you perfectly, often the elastic is thicker than the rest of the garment and stands out.

Its most often a problem under lightweight sheer fabrics and light colours.

when you have vpl under jeans, its time to really worry. and er, wear a long coat.

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

BLACKEYEDGIRL

Thursday, December 8, 2005 5:34 PM (P)

M4P: I bought the cotton ones. They have just enough spandex in all of the fabric that they make any bum look good. Also the elastic on the legs and top isn't so hard core that it makies you feel like circulation is being cut off.

CMS: I gotta say check out Fredricks of Hollywood. Yes they make all sorts of vile stripper-gear BUT they also carry a wide range of rare bra sizes in really really pretty colors and styles (and not all are whorish, trust me it's not whores-R-us!). I mean do you think Pamela Anderson is wearing beige bras all the time? Carmen Electra? Exactly. Also Check out Oprah's website. She recently did this show on Bra fittings and she had a list of stores that carry pretty bras that are in not so conventional sizes. Victoria's Secret maxes out at a DD, and I think it's a 40DD that they stop at (I might be wrong), which screws a lot of women into wearing the wrong sized bra just to fit into their bras.

Before we take this up to the 5th floor ladies I got one recommendation: GO GET FITTED FOR A BRA Seriously, I know we all 'think' we know what size we are, but 90% of women are wearing the wrong sized bra (which causes all sorts of problems from posture to back pain to shoulder pain ect). Get thee to a Victoria's Secret, Fredricks of Hollywood or Neiman Marcus (most high-end department stores like Boston Store, Younkers, Marshall Fields, ect will have fitters) and get properly fitted. It sounds ridiculous, but seriously, we all just kept trying on bras until they seemed to fit okay right? Yeah, exactly. Everyone I know who has gone and gotten fitted has been wearing the wrong sized bra their entire life!!! Even my mom!!! So go do yourself a favor while shopping for gifts at the mall this holiday season get your ass into a store and get fitted. Then buy yourself a pretty bra as a reward for being a good female.

Fifth floor to open soon!!!

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CALLMESERENITY

Thursday, December 8, 2005 6:00 PM (P)

Already been fitted. Many times.

Every time I lose another 10 lbs I go and get refitted, hoping that my size will change, but alas!

And Fredrick's is another store I don't have anywhere near me.

I did buy a strapless bra there once for a wedding I was in. Awful. The bride decided it'd be great if we all wore these spaghetti strap empire waist numbers. But spaghetti strap, empire waist dresses are not designed for people with my..um..special needs? It was Torture! And I was very very self conscious because I was showing entirely too much cleavage. And the bra I ended up having to buy had these HUGE elastic bands around the sides. PAIN like you've never known. (And not the good kind.) I would have rather gone with a corset or something, but they were $40 more than my $70 bra AND the wedding was in Fl in June. Can you say HOT? (again, not the good kind.)

I have tried on thousands of bras, from every store, every brand imaginable. I have spent hours upon hours shopping for bras. (Mai can attest to this.) The simple fact is that when you're a 34DD you have very few options. And most of those options are very expensive. I did accidentally turn my white bras pink in the wash a couple of weeks ago. They turned out cute!

*ends bra rant*

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BLACKEYEDGIRL

Thursday, December 8, 2005 7:08 PM (P)

You can order Fredrick's online (and if you hate them you can return them no problem). If it makes you feel better the girl I work with is a 32DD (BTW shes tiny, like wears a size 2, I'm surprised she doesn't tip over), she can't find a bra to buy for her life. Although she really really likes the Body by Victoria bras (and they come in lots of pretty colors), The Angel's collection and the standard Victoria's secret bras (again, colorful and happy). I've ordered from VS online in the past and when something just didn't fit I returned it postage paid to them no problem, they refunded my money right away. So if anything (if you don't have one near by) you can always try that. Somehow this shithole I live in has a VS, which to me is damn remarkable. VS does have their cotton DDs on sale right now 2 bras for $40 ($20 a piece ain't bad no matter what size you wear). Their second skin satin is on sale too and my best friend loves them (she's a DD too, I am surrounded by busty chicks). If you take care of them the VS bras last forever, so while they might be $30+ if they last 2 or 3 years who cares? Well that's just me. I still owe them like $40, so I shouldn't talk.

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Kaylee: "Yes. One of them's a doctor."

MAL4PREZ

Thursday, December 8, 2005 7:29 PM (P)

Wow, I'm realizing that all that teasing I took in high school for being flat chested was worth it. Bras are a pain in the - well, somewhere, huh?

Let's hear it for the slightly reinforced tank-top! cheap, comfy, colorful, and easy to find. Sorry, I don't mean to rub it in. Just appreciating what I don't have.

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CALLMESERENITY

Thursday, December 8, 2005 7:38 PM (P)

Thanks for the info, BEG.

I'm quite happy with my wykels for the time being, except that they only come in boring colours. I find that they are more comfortable and durable than VS and Fredricks bras (I really don't find most Fredrick's bras comfy AT ALL. Great looking, but not for wearing all day.) I'm really not into VS anyway. In my smaller days, I had to return many because underwire came out or straps broke or whatnot, and I found they didn't hold up well to repeated washings (even by hand). But that was my experience.

I recently tried an angel bra. I didn't love it. I'd like to try the new ipex(?), but last I checked, it didn't come in my size.

Okay, the men are all going to faint if we keep this discussion up much longer (if they haven't already!)

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MONTANAGIRL

Thursday, December 8, 2005 8:00 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
I have spent hours upon hours shopping for bras. (Mai can attest to this.)

I can vouch for this as well.

Quote:
The simple fact is that when you're a 34DD you have very few options.

Huh, we're the same size! How 'bout that?

I really like the VS Second Skin Satins; they're comfy and come in lots of pretty colors. (You don't want to know how many different shades of purple I've got. Okay, just three.) But if you don't like underwire then that doesn't work for you.

I didn't like the Body by Victoria. It was wearable for about three hours then it was horrid. I'd like to try an Ipex, but it's so pricey...

So I guess I'm no help to you.

And I agree that black, white, and beige are NOT colors!

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MAL4PREZ

Thursday, December 8, 2005 8:10 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
Okay, the men are all going to faint if we keep this discussion up much longer (if they haven't already!)

**trying to find the smelling salts for the men**

Ya, so ... how about that football team. You know the one that, um ... runs into guys on the other team. And, let's see ... throws the ball really far. Then runs really fast. grrr

*spit*
*slap on the ass*

Ask Dr. Science ... he knows more than you do.
"I have a Master's degree ... in science!"

ORPHEUS

Thursday, December 8, 2005 8:14 PM (P)

Wow. I just dropped off the face of the Earth there for a couple days. Sorry.

Mal4Prez: Thank you for posting that link to the movie version of the Ballad of Serenity. My soundtrack is complete.

Far as browncoats go, I picked up a greyish-brown officer's coat at an army surplus store a few months back. Not quite a browncoat, but it's the best I could do for $20.
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CALLMESERENITY

Thursday, December 8, 2005 8:16 PM (P)

Orpheus-you were at the NCBDMPP? I don't remember you. Can't see picture! Did I meet you?

I didn't realize you were there.

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ORPHEUS

Thursday, December 8, 2005 8:20 PM (P)

Yeah, I was there. Wasn't registered here as Orpheus yet. I'm working on that picture business.

So then, recap (since I deleted it from previous post): From the NCBDMPP. That's me in the middle. Not quite a brown coat, but it'll do.

Edit: HA! It works!
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"Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?"

CALLMESERENITY

Thursday, December 8, 2005 8:23 PM (P)

MG-Great! Now the men really are going to all have heart attacks!

I don't like the second skin satins. But you know, that's the problem with bras. It's like jeans, every woman is built just a little bit different. I only wear Levi's bootcut 515s (I think they're the 515s) short. I've tried nearly every jean on the market and those are the ones that fit me the best. They're just the right length and they sit well on me, I think.

So sports! Sports are..um...sporty! And you know what else is sporty? Sports cars! Love those sports cars!

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CALLMESERENITY

Thursday, December 8, 2005 8:27 PM (P)

Nope, sorry, don't remember you.

Snazzy picture, though, and I think you and your friends look great! LOVE the goggles.

Did you see me? I was there, as was Mai and MG. And Jadehand. I can find pictures to prove it, too!

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ORPHEUS

Thursday, December 8, 2005 8:32 PM (P)

Can't promise I'll remember anyone, but sure, I'd like to see some pictures.

At that point, I wasn't a full-on browncoat yet. Sure, I had the coat and I loved the show, but the film hooked me hard. The very next day I came here and registered a name. Or, at least, tried to.
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"Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?"

CALLMESERENITY

Thursday, December 8, 2005 8:51 PM (P)

Orpheus,

Go here. There are pictures of many of us.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/63315116@N00

If it doesn't read right, you might have to take out the @Nzerozero and put it in yourself. Sometimes it tries to read it as an email address.

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CITIZEN

Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:32 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Mal4Prez:
Ya, so ... how about that football team. You know the one that, um ... runs into guys on the other team. And, let's see ... throws the ball really far. Then runs really fast. grrr

Hmmm, American football, or maybe a more masculine sport like crochet...

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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MAL4PREZ

Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:02 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by Mal4Prez:
Ya, so ... how about that football team. You know the one that, um ... runs into guys on the other team. And, let's see ... throws the ball really far. Then runs really fast. grrr

Hmmm, American football, or maybe a more masculine sport like crochet...

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
Remember, the ice caps aren't melting, the water is being liberated.

hmmm - do you mean crochet or croquet?

mighty manly, either way ...

Ask Dr. Science ... he knows more than you do.
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LIGHTMEDARK

Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:06 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
**trying to find the smelling salts for the men**

Ya, so ... how about that football team. You know the one that, um ... runs into guys on the other team. And, let's see ... throws the ball really far. Then runs really fast. grrr

*spit*
*slap on the ass*

sweet, i'm awake again! thanks, mal4prez ;D

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inch towards daylight

ORPHEUS

Thursday, December 8, 2005 11:00 PM (P)

A couple of the faces look familiar. Yeah, I really didn't know anyone aside from my own group. Though, if I remember correctly, I sat right next to Haken during the BDM.

Strange time to start reminiscing about that...

"Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?"

SERYN

Thursday, December 8, 2005 11:06 PM (P)

Quote:

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Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
Okay, the men are all going to faint if we keep this discussion up much longer (if they haven't already!)
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Heres one to make you faint again!

(and also a word of warning to the girls)

you heard of those strapless and back less bra's? they kind of stick on with little clear patches under the arms, and if your not to big they're supposedly a great idea for lowback/strappy/strapless dresses.
Well last christmas our works do was in a really posh italian returant so I figured visible bra straps just wouldn't do, so I got one of these stick on bra's.

Of course, I loose the stickers for it, so it comes to the night I panic then hit upon the idea of using the spirit gum from my fx make-up kit. Everything is going fine, I get through the resturant part no probs, then we get to the night club, I get warm, and suddenly the bra pings right off!

I'd used water soluble spirit gum, instead of the hard core original stuff, so as soon as I sw... perspired, off it came. ARRRRRGGGG!

The worst thing was, I was on the stage talking to the DJ at the time, and to this day I have no idea if anyone realised what the sudden crossing of arms and running off to the ladies meant.

Ah god,

so the moral of this story is, if you are fool hardy enough to try one of those things DON'T LOOSE THE STICKERS.

and that neatly leads into -

proposal for the fifth floor opening topic - everybodies most embarassing moments,

could be anything, so get working on those mental blocks people...

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CITIZEN

Thursday, December 8, 2005 11:41 PM (P)

Croquet, I is dyslexic, so mines spaling iz not so gud

Grrr, and I used to be able to draw now the marks on the paper look like just about anything other than what they are supposed to look like.
Stupid fingers.
Who'd of thought that not drawing for four years could make you lose the abillity.

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JADEHAND

Friday, December 9, 2005 4:10 AM (P)

Those are some interesting pictures. I don't know all of those people. I wish I didn't have other stuff to do that night, looks like everyone had a great time.

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SERYN

Friday, December 9, 2005 10:19 AM (P)

There is a manly version of croquet,

read the Jasper Fforde books, the Thursday Next series.
Not only are they brilliant and rib achingly funny, but they feature a world where croquet is a stadium sport, played in full body armour, with italianate garden death traps and lawyers on hand to sue (i don't actually know how to spell that word in the sense of of'i'm going to --- you for every penny etc.etc.) or send off as they can.

ok, so it doesn't sound that exciting, but believe me, they're the sort of books you can't read on public transport for fear of laughing so much that random strangers try to get you committed.

Plus it helped give rise to the real life sport of Extreme Croquet, basically where the ball goes, you go, through supermarkets, up the sides of mountains, accross roads(!)

so there's manliness...

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 10:59 AM (P)

As for dicussing football, lets not and say we did. For the most part I have very little interest in proffessional sports.

CMS: I now know your size. Seriously though I know a woman who is the same size and I never would have guessed. She dresses such that one would never notice.

M4P: I maybe wise beyond my chromosones, but not my years, wishing it were so. (Sigh) Woman you can be happy with what you don't have and should be happy with what you do, confidence and a brain. I keep running into these insecure, vacuous women with over the top breast jobs, big turn off.

Seryn: VPL, oh that, right, some people are self-conscious about that. Sweating your way out of your paste on bra, (Steady boys! Steady!), what can a gentleman say in regards to a powerful image that? I guess I'll have to go find a gentleman and ask him. Until I find one, I'll have to make do. My compliments Mam' and thank you for sharing. No smelling salts needed after that one. Cold showers maybe. A bra that you sweat off sounds like the perfect wardrobe for the sort of thing that Erica Jong wrote about in Fear of Flying back in the 70's.

Blackeyedgirl: Getting fitted for a bra, (Steady! Steady!) is a really good idea. All of the women I have known well enough to give a massage to have had tension right where their bra strap crossed their spine, every single one of them. Hey all good females should be rewarded! What to do about the bad ones though, hmm?

Orpheus: Who's your friend in the sash?

Whoa!...Flesh!

Scorpion Regent

SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 11:10 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
There is a manly version of croquet,

read the Jasper Fforde books, the Thursday Next series.
Not only are they brilliant and rib achingly funny, but they feature a world where croquet is a stadium sport, played in full body armour, with italianate garden death traps and lawyers on hand to sue (i don't actually know how to spell that word in the sense of of'i'm going to --- you for every penny etc.etc.) or send off as they can.

ok, so it doesn't sound that exciting, but believe me, they're the sort of books you can't read on public transport for fear of laughing so much that random strangers try to get you committed.

Plus it helped give rise to the real life sport of Extreme Croquet, basically where the ball goes, you go, through supermarkets, up the sides of mountains, accross roads(!)

so there's manliness...

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

There was a SCA event where all the fighters played full contact quidicht in full armor. I hope I'm spelling it right. I never actually read Harry Potter.
One of Ed Harris' earliest movies Is George E Romero's Knight Riders where he has a traveling Rennaisance Faire the highlight of which is full contact jousting on motorcycles.

Scorpion Regent

SERYN

Friday, December 9, 2005 12:12 PM (P)

I'm going to have to admit my resounding idiocy and ask, SCA? and also

Huh? they played quidditch? isn't that played on brooms? er, how did they fly?

though jousting on motorbikes, sounds like my kinda spectacle, like to see them steer a bike in a frog-mouth though.

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 12:46 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
I'm going to have to admit my resounding idiocy and ask, SCA? and also

Huh? they played quidditch? isn't that played on brooms? er, how did they fly?

though jousting on motorbikes, sounds like my kinda spectacle, like to see them steer a bike in a frog-mouth though.

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

SCA, it's this hobby of mine that I can't seem to escape from. I originally brought it up because I mentioned that it might actually be a place where there are nice people to meet. SCA stands for Society of Creative Anachronism and there are branches in the UK and Europe. Here's the main website:
www.sca.org
If you google SCA you'll get a lot of hits. If you have any questions about it I'll be happy to answer them. I suspect that there are people here who are not so interested in it so I won't natter on unless asked.
No they weren't flying, and no there weren't brooms.
What's a frogmouth?

Scorpion Regent

SERYN

Friday, December 9, 2005 12:57 PM (P)

should have included picture first, sorry

Was a big ol' helmet bolted on to the harness (chesty bits)
Idea was the other person got more points for breaking their lance on your face (as far as I recall anyway) so having your helmet bolted on meant you didn't get yer head ripped off easier than a kid pulls petals off daisies.

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 1:20 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
should have included picture first, sorry

Was a big ol' helmet bolted on to the harness (chesty bits)
Idea was the other person got more points for breaking their lance on your face (as far as I recall anyway) so having your helmet bolted on meant you didn't get yer head ripped off easier than a kid pulls petals off daisies.

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

Gnarly! never seen one of those before.

Scorpion Regent

CALLMESERENITY

Friday, December 9, 2005 1:44 PM (P)

Ouch.

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SERYN

Friday, December 9, 2005 1:45 PM (P)

I did armour for my college dissertation, I have so many bizarre pictures on my computer now it's unreal, and yet I can't bring myself to get rid of them

you never know when the random-topic-stream-generator will make them useful again.

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CALLMESERENITY

Friday, December 9, 2005 1:49 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Orpheus:
Though, if I remember correctly, I sat right next to Haken during the BDM.

You sat next to Haken!?!? *swoon*

Meeting him was like meeting a celebrity. I was very excited. I think he even signed my VC. And I also met ScrewtheAlliance that night. (The guy that wrote Kaylee's Lament and the Treasure of Lei Fong Wu. Fantastic stuff.) I was a bit star struck.

I did try to go around and meet as many people as I could, but I was a bit busy, as I was staff and was running interference for Ash (XandlerLHarris, or shiny Shindig goddess who arranged the whole weekend.)

That was a great night, though, wasn't it? I hope we'll do another one when we get our sequel!

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SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 1:55 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
Quote:
Originally posted by Orpheus:
Though, if I remember correctly, I sat right next to Haken during the BDM.

You sat next to Haken!?!? *swoon*

Meeting him was like meeting a celebrity. I was very excited. I think he even signed my VC. And I also met ScrewtheAlliance that night. (The guy that wrote Kaylee's Lament and the Treasure of Lei Fong Wu. Fantastic stuff.) I was a bit star struck.

I did try to go around and meet as many people as I could, but I was a bit busy, as I was staff and was running interference for Ash (XandlerLHarris, or shiny Shindig goddess who arranged the whole weekend.)

That was a great night, though, wasn't it? I hope we'll do another one when we get our sequel!

Serenity, First Officer of Destiny

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All right, I'll bite, Who's Haken? Obviously he's CSM's favorite Haken, but that leaves me without context.

Scorpion Regent

COZEN

Friday, December 9, 2005 2:01 PM (P)

Haken was at the NCBDMPP? Huh. First I've heard of this. Well, nice to have almost met the dude.

And, is this bashing folks' heads about some kind of reaction to the bra size issues?

Clearly I'm out of the loop, eh?

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SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 2:02 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
I did armour for my college dissertation, I have so many bizarre pictures on my computer now it's unreal, and yet I can't bring myself to get rid of them

you never know when the random-topic-stream-generator will make them useful again.

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

If armour was your disertation topic then we deffinitely have a place for you in the SCA! We have people who want all those images because we are constantly building armour. Though we usually we spell it with out the u to save on weight.

Scorpion Regent

SERYN

Friday, December 9, 2005 2:12 PM (P)

o gods, if only leaving out the 'u' would save on the weight. I was playing with a suit and a broadsword once, now with out the gloves and gauntlets and all of the arm bits, waving the sword around like a pro, swish swoosh, fear me evil do-ers... etc.
with the gloves, gauntlets, vambraces blah blah blah,

well lets just say I was more dangerous, but not in a good way.

Damn are they hard to work in, I dropped the sword twice, just glad I was standing on lino (muffled the clanging), and almost took someone out when the snuck up behind me. My toes are probably only here today cause I was wearing steel toe cap doc martens.

ah well... college was such fun.

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

CALLMESERENITY

Friday, December 9, 2005 2:13 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by ScorpionRegent:

All right, I'll bite, Who's Haken? Obviously he's CSM's favorite Haken, but that leaves me without context.

You don't know how Haken is? *incredulous* Oh my goodness!!!

Haken is the person who started fff.net. This is HIS website. This is his baby. We are all here because of Haken! (He also has the most credits of any other browncoat in the 'verse on the UB. He's a a million-credit-aire.) Haken is like the ULTIMATE Browncoat. And he IS my favourite Haken!

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SERYN

Friday, December 9, 2005 2:20 PM (P)

Quote:
And, is this bashing folks' heads about some kind of reaction to the bra size issues?

Clearly I'm out of the loop, eh?

No, don't worry, the talk of bashing people in the head is a random aside about tilting in tournaments of the medieval kind -and aparently the mordern version done on a motorbike instead of a horse, jeeze, i miss all the fun.

you only have to keep up if you want to.

I cant see these photo's and gorramit I want to! (stamping feet is so much fun)
I've tried removing the bit at the end like you said, is there any other thing i'm missing? It's still reading it as an email address

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 2:39 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
o gods, if only leaving out the 'u' would save on the weight. I was playing with a suit and a broadsword once, now with out the gloves and gauntlets and all of the arm bits, waving the sword around like a pro, swish swoosh, fear me evil do-ers... etc.
with the gloves, gauntlets, vambraces blah blah blah,

well lets just say I was more dangerous, but not in a good way.

Damn are they hard to work in, I dropped the sword twice, just glad I was standing on lino (muffled the clanging), and almost took someone out when the snuck up behind me. My toes are probably only here today cause I was wearing steel toe cap doc martens.

ah well... college was such fun.

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

These days we use lighter guage steel and aluminimum. I haven't seen a lot of full plate suits. Mostly theres a lot of chain and leather with a bit of plate as a add on here and there. Battles aren't just for the weaker sex, we let the women fight too, so if you ever had a hankering, well we're here. Every 6 months we have a crown tournement to see who will be king. One kingdom all ready has had a Queen that won the crown by her own hand. Oh god I'm rambling again, shutting up now.

Scorpion Regent

SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 2:42 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
Quote:
And, is this bashing folks' heads about some kind of reaction to the bra size issues?

Clearly I'm out of the loop, eh?

No, don't worry, the talk of bashing people in the head is a random aside about tilting in tournaments of the medieval kind -and aparently the mordern version done on a motorbike instead of a horse, jeeze, i miss all the fun.

you only have to keep up if you want to.

I cant see these photo's and gorramit I want to! (stamping feet is so much fun)
I've tried removing the bit at the end like you said, is there any other thing i'm missing? It's still reading it as an email address

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

The motorcycles that was just a movie. We could never get insurance for that.

Scorpion Regent

SERYN

Friday, December 9, 2005 2:50 PM (P)

it sounds like the most fun you can have encased in metal...

how do you fight properly though in just aluminum? It does sound like a laugh, but i was always the more interested in just the making side of things, I don't have any real yearnings to spend my weekend up to my arse in mud and water, half deaf due to the continual blows to the brain pan and regularly coming into close proximity with the pointy end of someone elses pig-sticker.

Long bows sound good though, I knew someone once, sat on the ground and the bow against his feet, the arrow went through the bonnet of a bmw set up a hundred yards away and most of the way through a target behind it.

Jayne would have liked them.

Plus, less mud.

Quote:

The motorcycles that was just a movie. We could never get insurance for that.

has anyone tried?

seriously though, I think i'm putting people off here,

If you want all of the pictures in my archive, though a lot of them are just shot of LOTR elf armour and the like, you are welcome, I could send you the book list as well, I just need somewhere to send the disc.

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 3:38 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
it sounds like the most fun you can have encased in metal...

how do you fight properly though in just aluminum? It does sound like a laugh, but i was always the more interested in just the making side of things, I don't have any real yearnings to spend my weekend up to my arse in mud and water, half deaf due to the continual blows to the brain pan and regularly coming into close proximity with the pointy end of someone elses pig-sticker.

Long bows sound good though, I knew someone once, sat on the ground and the bow against his feet, the arrow went through the bonnet of a bmw set up a hundred yards away and most of the way through a target behind it.

Jayne would have liked them.

Plus, less mud.

Quote:

The motorcycles that was just a movie. We could never get insurance for that.

has anyone tried?

seriously though, I think i'm putting people off here,

If you want all of the pictures in my archive, though a lot of them are just shot of LOTR elf armour and the like, you are welcome, I could send you the book list as well, I just need somewhere to send the disc.

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

We can fight in heavy guage aluminimum because we don't used real edged weapons, once again insurance. The weapons are made of rattan, but they have the same weight and as real weapons and you hit someone hard enough they really hurt. We often make real swords, we just can't use them on each other, at least not legally. There is plenty of room for someone to just make armor if that is their wont. Besides there is a whole lot more to the SCA besides the battles. Yes there are archery competitions. There's the parties, a personal favorite, there's all sorts of arts and crafts, there is debauchery, there are bardic circles for songs and stories, there is dancing,and so much more, but most of all it is a great place to me fine people.
Not so much mud where I live, more dust.
There motorcycle thing, I'm sure someone out there has tried it, I haven't heard of it though. I wonder if they survived. I know that the SCA won't do it because of insurance and also there is a section of our membership that is willing to overlook some modern items such as eyeglasses and maybe a propane stove for cooking, a motorcycle used for jousting would be just too much. Some call these people period nazis, they call themselves Authenticity mavens, a rose by any other name...

Scorpion Regent

SERYN

Friday, December 9, 2005 3:53 PM (P)

yes, i went and actually read the site properly, and found that out.

There are groups in this country that are 'authenticity mavens' real hardcore authentic, they spend months drilling and training, and the camps they set up function with out any modern amenities (though somehow sneaking off to the pub to have a full english breakfast is allowable)
theres a whole industry dedicated to making the armour and all of the other stuff exactly as it was, and then going out and 'testing' it, some of the injuries i've heard of put me off it for life, but they've learned incredible things about life back then and now - proved and dispelled theories about so many things.

but i think i'll stick to watching.

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'do not fear me, ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony'

SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 4:26 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
yes, i went and actually read the site properly, and found that out.

There are groups in this country that are 'authenticity mavens' real hardcore authentic, they spend months drilling and training, and the camps they set up function with out any modern amenities (though somehow sneaking off to the pub to have a full english breakfast is allowable)
theres a whole industry dedicated to making the armour and all of the other stuff exactly as it was, and then going out and 'testing' it, some of the injuries i've heard of put me off it for life, but they've learned incredible things about life back then and now - proved and dispelled theories about so many things.

but i think i'll stick to watching.

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In my neck of the woods authenticy is encouraged, but not enforced. The only rule is that you have to be in costume if you are going to stay over night at a event. Each household (camping group) decides for itself what they are about, who and what and when they are and how authentic thay are going to be. The group I camp with is not too strict though we continually strive to make an effort. There are some purists, the hardest of the hardcore and there are those who are barely skating by on tolerance. A good size event has easily a hundred separate households so you never know what you might see. The reason I joined the SCA to begin with is the fact that the Rennaisance Faire I was interested in held too high a standard for participants. Any one could pay a gate fee and walk in wearing everyday street clothes, but to stay overnight and party with the regulars was a different story. I couldn't afford to buy or create a whole second set of camping equipment just to indulge a new hobby so I joined the SCA.

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SERYN

Friday, December 9, 2005 4:57 PM (P)

y'see id be about halfway, i'm one of those 'if your gonna do it, do it properly' types, but i think the lot who are 'are barely skating by on tolerance' (brilliant phrase) are of the no pain no gain school of thought.

i can't say i buy into that. lots of gain, no pain - I guess i'm just a big softie.

Looking through (my pictures) there ain't as many as there were, seems I had a cull at some point, and a lot of them are borderline 16th cent. like the Negroli armour, but theres still a bit of stuff thats useful, and its all pretty, and,literally, shiny. I'll send it off as soon as I can get to the post office.

CMS, those photo's were cool, it looked like so much fun, now i just have to work out who everyone is... I got a few,is the bloke with the beard Haken by any chance? (something about the 'should I know who this is?' comment made me think...

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MAL4PREZ

Friday, December 9, 2005 5:48 PM (P)

Hi, joining in late. Busy day huh? Much armor conversation. I wish there'd been an armor major at my college, no such luck.

Someone ealier referred to motorcyles ... that reminds me of a movie that was on when cable first started (early 80s I'm talking) about a troop of motorcycle driving jousters. I barely remember it, and I'm sure it was the cheesiest thing ever, but now I'd like to figure out what it is just for s**ts and giggles. Anyone got any idea?

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SERYN

Friday, December 9, 2005 6:00 PM (P)

there was no armour major, I studied costume production in a stage school! I'm just a masochist in that I chose to do a history students degree paper, silly silly me.

Aparently the motorbike jousting was from a film, it may be the same one, SR wrote what it was in one of the posts.

maybe that could be the next film night in loafers nook, sounds entertaining.

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CALLMESERENITY

Friday, December 9, 2005 6:09 PM (P)

Seryn. The bloke with the beard was not our beloved Haken, alas. It is TheRealMe, who is another fantastic person you should meet if you have not. He has a contagious laugh and is as merry as a hobbit. I adore him (as I adore every single person in those pictures. Oh how I miss them all! That was one fantastic shindig!)

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SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 6:16 PM (P)

The film in question is George A Romero's Knight Riders starring a very young Ed Harris and a cast of unknowns and obscure character actors. Is it cheesy? See it for yourself and decide. I liked it when I first came out. I was crazy for motorcycles back then so I was surely biased. I promise if you don't expect too much you won't be dissappointed. I would say it's more a movie to be appreciated for it's novelty than it's attempts to win oscars. That approach worked when I finally saw Waterworld on dollar night. However I felt that I had been mugged and beaten after I saw Star Trek 5.

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MAL4PREZ

Friday, December 9, 2005 6:27 PM (P)

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Originally posted by ScorpionRegent:
The film in question is George A Romero's Knight Riders starring a very young Ed Harris and a cast of unknowns and obscure character actors. Is it cheesy? See it for yourself and decide. I liked it when I first came out. I was crazy for motorcycles back then so I was surely biased. I promise if you don't expect too much you won't be dissappointed. I would say it's more a movie to be appreciated for it's novelty than it's attempts to win oscars. That approach worked when I finally saw Waterworld on dollar night. However I felt that I had been mugged and beaten after I saw Star Trek 5.

Scorpion Regent

That's it! Ed Harris sounds right. cool, thanks!

I only assume it's cheesy because I remember watching it several times during those long summer days of being ~8 years old, and movies I really liked at that age tend to be kinda cheesy.

For instance: Caveman, oh yes Ringo Starr and Dennis Quaid. And Diane from Cheers. I loved that movie. "doo-doo, ka-ka. s**t!!" I think I saw it 5 times in the theater!

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SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 6:49 PM (P)

Caveman 5 times? I am ashamed to admit that I saw Smokey and the Bandit more than twice. (Shudder)

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MAL4PREZ

Friday, December 9, 2005 6:53 PM (P)

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Originally posted by ScorpionRegent:
Caveman 5 times? I am ashamed to admit that I saw Smokey and the Bandit more than twice. (Shudder)

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Hey, I was 8 and I lived in Omaha.

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SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 7:02 PM (P)

When young act foolishly you won't be able to get away with it later.

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CALLMESERENITY

Friday, December 9, 2005 7:03 PM (P)

Don't be embarrased, M4P. We all had movies like that when we were little. I used to watch Little Monsters over and over and over. The one with Fred Savage (who I had a HUGE crush on when I was, like 10).

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MAL4PREZ

Friday, December 9, 2005 7:06 PM (P)

You mean I haven't been getting away with it lately? drat!

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MAL4PREZ

Friday, December 9, 2005 7:13 PM (P)

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Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
Don't be embarrased, M4P. We all had movies like that when we were little. I used to watch Little Monsters over and over and over. The one with Fred Savage (who I had a HUGE crush on when I was, like 10).

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whoa - Fred Savage! Total hottie!

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SCORPIONREGENT

Friday, December 9, 2005 7:19 PM (P)

Somehow Fred Savage never did it for me. I think it was that Y chromsone, though I can't really be certain. Hey I have to go to the doctor, so I'll be back later. Be eloquent.

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CALLMESERENITY

Friday, December 9, 2005 7:23 PM (P)

I know! Hence the crush.

Hey, I'm nearing 30 and I still ask as silly and foolish as I please. I refuse to grow up. I'll be responsible and pay my bills and show up for work on time and whatnot, but that is NOT going to stop me from enjoying life. I build sandcastles and snowmen and blow bubbles and drink chocolate milk and play hopscotch. I hope I'll still do those things when I'm 60.

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JADEHAND

Friday, December 9, 2005 7:27 PM (P)

Haken came to our little NCBDMPP? I missed that too. I brought a couple from my gaming group who were browncoats, and didn't feel right abandoning them to meet everyone from the board. They looked a little scared. I was happy to finally meet Static and GreyJedi and TheRealMe.
Shakes head: Haken, who runs this beautiful site from Hawaii, Came to NC for the premire?? Hope he had a good time.
On the SCA: had some good times there, never did any real fighting, though I did do some training for fencing and a little for combat. Unfortunately the arrows are(or were) hollow tubes and don't move very fast. You can(could) sidestep incoming arrows. Unfortunately the closer you got to real arrows, the closer you got to unsafe. I kinda miss it, but don't know where I'd find the time.

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ORPHEUS

Friday, December 9, 2005 7:59 PM (P)

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You sat next to Haken!?!? *swoon*

Yeah, or at least that's who I think it was. He was the dude in the tux who gave us all that little speech at the beginning of the show.

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I did try to go around and meet as many people as I could, but I was a bit busy, as I was staff and was running interference for Ash (XandlerLHarris, or shiny Shindig goddess who arranged the whole weekend.)

Eh, don't feel too bad about not meeting me. I wouldn't have known who anyone was anyway.

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That was a great night, though, wasn't it? I hope we'll do another one when we get our sequel!

That it was. You know what would be great? If we had special anniversary screenings every 5 years or so. Being the stubborn fans that we are, we could probably raise the cash for multiple theatrical runs. Quixotic, I know, but I can dream, can't I?
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JADEHAND

Friday, December 9, 2005 8:14 PM (P)

The "dude in the tux who gave us all that little speech at the beginning of the show. " Is Static. Also a great guy from what I know of him. I was wondering why Haken would visit NC from Hawaii.

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ORPHEUS

Friday, December 9, 2005 8:20 PM (P)

Well then somebody lied to me. But yeah, you're right. I remember that name.

Crap. Sorry.
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ORPHEUS

Friday, December 9, 2005 8:21 PM (P)

Double Post. Double sorry.

JADEHAND

Friday, December 9, 2005 8:33 PM (P)

No appologies are neccesary for being misinformed.

5th floor????
Scuba gear, inflatible pool toys, super soakers, and water soluable swimwear ...

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ORPHEUS

Friday, December 9, 2005 8:36 PM (P)

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Scuba gear, inflatible pool toys, super soakers, and water soluable swimwear ...

Psycho beach party on ice...
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LIGHTMEDARK

Friday, December 9, 2005 11:06 PM (P)

I'm envious of all of you that have met real living and breathing browncoats. I don't know if there is such a thing where I live.

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inch towards daylight

SCORPIONREGENT

Saturday, December 10, 2005 5:32 AM (P)

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Originally posted by LightMeDark:
I'm envious of all of you that have met real living and breathing browncoats. I don't know if there is such a thing where I live.

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inch towards daylight

Look in the mirror dude!

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SCORPIONREGENT

Saturday, December 10, 2005 4:44 PM (P)

Help! Help! For the love of all that is good in this thread someone throw me a topic!

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CITIZEN

Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:48 PM (P)

okay hows this.
How does the Take-Away work out that my £15.70 take-away is under £15 and so is subject to a delivery charge?

Or

What's everyone doing for Christmas, anything cool?

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
Remember, the ice caps aren't melting, the water is being liberated.

ORPHEUS

Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:26 PM (P)

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What's everyone doing for Christmas, anything cool?

I wish. I'm home from college for my winter break, which means working and braving the holidays with nothing but my family.

The only things really worth looking forward to (besides Christmas) are King Kong and the Serenity DVD.

Sorry, hate to be a mood-kill.

For the 5th floor, I'm thinking the topic should be jobs. Past jobs. Current job. Dream job. Aaannd...go!
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