The Conspiracy Thread
POSTED BY: zzetta13
UPDATED: Saturday, April 25, 2026 14:50
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Hello fellow browncoat brothers and sisters and conspiracy theorists. Do you believe governments are capable of hiding truths from their populace? How far are they willing to go to keep secrets and their power. Is Elvis alive and running a pizza parlor in Denver? Are Janice and Michael Jackson really the same individual?
I would like to start a new thread and I’m calling it the “Conspiracy, Random equation and Mysteries” thread. This all stems from a UFO program I was watching the other day. It got me to thinking, as Joss, Tim Minear and the other writers of FF were penning the Firefly tv series I assume they often drew upon their interest and every day events to help with the story lines . Seems the Hands of Blue guys are similar to the Men in Black fellows, maybe a tad more sinister. What do we know about the MIB gentlemen. Well in reality not much, we know that they show up unannounced at some poor souls door who’s seen a ufo and in few words or less convince them that they didn’t see anything and to keep their mouth shut. What are they hiding (or guarding?)? They kinda remind me of the HoBs. 500 years from now there are still secrets the government doesn’t want found out. The MIBs are today’s HoBs. Don’t tell me that you don’t believe in conspiracies because you wouldn’t have bought the bit about River if you didn’t (see Simon and Rivers parents) What is the cost of knowing secrets like these? The movies portray the MIB guys as good guys working for the government but are they really?
I find it funny that the FF series eludes to so much government meddling and interference and secrecy yet in the episode “The Message” the barker outside the peep show says “ Forget what your mother told you when she tucked you in at night! Behind this very curtain is what our oppressive Allied government doesn’t want you to know….” . This kinda rings of Roswell to me and that the writer is saying “ keep an open mind about the government hiding some truths, but not others” I just find a lot of twists and turns in the FF fiction and it’s one of the things that has me liking it so much.
Any comments?
Z
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You must believe the Magic Bullet Theory - your government would never lie to you.
Also of importance, keep in mind that for most of history, Religion was also the Government - only the Church would determine who would become educated, and taught by the Church. The Religious Conspiracies were alluded to in Raiders of the Lost Ark, or at least the Catholic ones. (the other Indy episodes also follow religious plotlines, until IV)
The origins of Atlantis, the facts behind the fables in the Bible, the knowledge behind the Pyramids, Stonehenge, all reigned in by Religious rulers. The Vatican archives have not been opened to the public.
If you paid attention to Stargate, more of the same.
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JewelStaiteFan, howdy
MY personal opinions:
Dallas 1963- no magic bullet
Roswell 1947- not a weather balloon
Washington State 1980- Bigfoot sighting, possibly?
Janet & Michael the same?- Nope
Loc Ness, Scotland- I wouldn’t picnic at water edge.
UFOs- I’d love to see one, I’d get autographs!
MIB- Aren’t really Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith
Z
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Originally posted by zzetta13:
I find it funny that the FF series eludes to so much government meddling and interference and secrecy yet in the episode “The Message” the barker outside the peep show says “ Forget what your mother told you when she tucked you in at night! Behind this very curtain is what our oppressive Allied government doesn’t want you to know….” . This kinda rings of Roswell to me and that the writer is saying...
... that aliens are actually upside down cows in a carny barkers exhibition - there's a mark born every minute and rubes just waiting to be taken. LOL!
actually, here in LimeyLand we had (for YEARS) a truly hi-larious fake of the MISSING LINK at the National History Museum - which was half a chimp and a goat sewed together. (eew!)
humans are a credulous bunch - they'll swallow anything...
... even a magic bullet theory;)
anyhoo - Zzeta, if you like this kinda fun, check out the wonderful and esteemed Fortean Times Magazine:
http://www.forteantimes.com
(cue spooky music)
now
i
must
depart
klatu barada niktu
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Piltdown Man? Heh.
The carny folk used to tout around the body of a mummified manatee and charge people to see the mermaid. So I think the cow in a jar is just symptomatic of mankind being itself.
Weird conspiracy fiction - Umberto Eco 'Focault's Pendulum'. The DaVinci Code for grown-ups, first and best. Find out what the Eiffel Tower is really for.
Any of Christopher Fowler's 'Bryant and May' series.
As for the truth being out there? I think it would be wasted on the world. Everyone would rather have a glittery big secret, then the rather sordid idea that lonely and mentally unstable people want to shoot other people, every government there has ever been will do anything to protect itself, (any politician in a postion of power being the last person that should be there,) and people on the whole will do anything for money.
Bread and circuses have always been the key. 'Cept now television has replaced religion as the opiate of the masses.
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There is no 'magic bullet' theory. Just the Bullet that killed him, was the bullet that killed him, theory. Unfortunately some people are ignorant of the facts, or otherwise prefer fantasy to reality. No government tells the absolute truth about everything all the time, there's a need for national secrecy in some areas, but by the same token nearly every grand conspiracy theory is just retarded.
Stonehenge was built by the Neolithic peoples of Britain, and it's been shown that moving stones from wales and constructing Stonehenge was perfectly possible with the technologies at their disposal.
The Pyramids were constructed by Ancient Egyptians, no one is sure exactly how it was done, but there's a number of theories that have been tested that show it was perfectly possible for the ancient Egyptians to have done so without help from aliens or even Elvis.
The world is simply a much more mundane place than many people want to believe it too be.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Piltdown Man? Heh.
The carny folk used to tout around the body of a mummified manatee and charge people to see the mermaid. So I think the cow in a jar is just symptomatic of mankind being itself.
go to the national fairground archive in sheffield -
they've got some fantastic stuff!
http://www.nfa.dept.shef.ac.uk/
run by the invincible Dr Vanessa Toulmin
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Ok Browncoats, good so far, How’s about a few more
Death of Marilyn Monroe?
Faked lunar landings?
Story of Atlantis?
Tiny Tim man or myth?
z
Wytchy,SpaceANJL in this part of the county we have someone called "Smeltdown Man". If you stand downwind you can smell him. Also known as an unwashed bum 
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Originally posted by zzetta13:
Wytchy,SpaceANJL in this part of the county we have someone called "Smeltdown Man". If you stand downwind you can smell him. Also known as an unwashed bum
LOL!!!!!!!!
(ps - marilyn monroe aint dead!
she's living IN atlantis which is simply beyond our collective chrono vision -
once a year she visits tiny tim man on the moon,
which is why nasa don't want ya up there!
as for loch ness?
no frakking way am i goin' anywhere that has ted danson creeping about! my momma warned me!!)
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what about us all being ruled by a secret society of reptiles one of my faves
im just going out,i may be some time 
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Originally posted by zzetta13:
Is Elvis alive and running a pizza parlor in Denver?
No, of course not. He's taken over the place in Mystic over on the East Coast. Duh. :D
Going for a ride.
Another Sky
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Which story about Atlantis? The maps? the aftermath? Which identified location?
How about the bottomless hole in Washington?
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Was Virginia Giuffre killed? Inside the troubling trail of Epstein-related 'suicides'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14683907/Virginia-Giuffre-kil
led-Epstein-suicides-family-convinced.html
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Are the Epstein files still sealed? Here’s what we know
https://www.yahoo.com/news/epstein-files-still-sealed-know-200149580.h
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What's the difference between Conspiracy Theory and Fact?
About 6 months.
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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
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Virginia Giuffre’s ‘Deadman’s Switch’ Released: “I Have Been Murdered - This is the REAL Epstein List”
https://x.com/PastorBobJ11071/status/1935036480923328618
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Virginia Giuffre’s ‘Deadman’s Switch’ Released: “I Have Been Murdered - This is the REAL Epstein List”
https://x.com/PastorBobJ11071/status/1935036480923328618
If this is real and not some bullshit (AI or otherwise), I called dead man's switches in the mix before Epstein was murdered. It's all in my post history here.
Still waiting on Epstein's dead man switch to go off. I'm amazed that he didn't have one and/or that he didn't have a good enough switch that they were able to shut it down.
Maybe he didn't feel the need to drop that bomb the second that he died? Really... why would it matter if it went off 2 weeks or 5 years after he's gone as long as it does go off? And there's also the possibility that he really isn't dead, which this audio alleges.
Guess we'll see what happens.
Would love to see Barack Obama's reaction to this.
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IPETGOAT-II
Animated Short "I, Pet Goat II" by - Heliofant
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“The facts and circumstances surrounding both your and Mr. Epstein’s cases have received immense public interest and scrutiny,” Comer wrote in a statement Wednesday.
https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1948224369819357342
Speaker Mike Johnson to shut down House early amid Jeffrey Epstein drama
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/23/mike-johnson-h
ouse-early-jeffrey-epstein-drama-the-excerpt/85338971007/
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Trump invites sex offender, DEI hater, ‘roid abuser to mark return of kids’ fitness test
https://augustafreepress.com/news/trump-invites-sex-offender-dei-hater
-roid-abuser-to-mark-return-of-kids-fitness-test/
Republicans tell Trump to ‘grow up’ after he sacks data chief
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/republicans-tell-trump-grow-sacks-
161134024.html
Trump fires jobs data commissioner after dismal report
https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/us-news/2025/08/03/trump-fir
es-jobs-commissioner
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The Freemason in the Rye
https://www.unz.com/article/the-freemason-in-the-rye/
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Multiple Spotters and Co-conpirators have been captured on video. This was not a "Lone-gunman" - my guess is on TransTifa / Antifa coordinating this. Hope I am wrong.
https://x.com/SCReid_10XCoach/status/1966150504708452395
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crazy conspiracies?
Kirk Assassination
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Epstein Files: Trump’s Waterloo or Project 2025 Diversion?
https://tonilawrence.substack.com/p/epstein-files-trumps-waterloo-or
Trump in UK: Activists Project Trump–Epstein Video on Windsor Castle Ahead of Royal Welcome
WION
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The Secret Story of Why the Shriners Fez is Red...
https://old.bitchute.com/video/ihRjjYbtcFIe/
Trump's teleprompter breaks for his UN speech: "Whoever is operating this teleprompter is in big trouble."
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1970491684623433828#m
White House Press Sec says the issues with the escalator, teleprompter, and audio at the UN "doesn't look like a coincidence."
https://x.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1970661661234340026#m
"If we find that these were UN staffers who were purposefully trying to trip up... President Trump and First Lady — well, there better be accountability for those people."
Trump: "These are the two things I got from the United Nations, a bad escalator and a bad teleprompter."
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1970493651060216035#m
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What have we learned from Epstein document drop?
Whistleblower says Ghislaine Maxwell is receiving special luxuries in prison
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MIKEY SMITH: 8 potential nightmares for Donald Trump buried in the Epstein files
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/mikey-smith-8-potential-nightma
res-36243539
comedy now all politics?
Epstein-Trump Saga Gets 20K Pages Longer & Megyn Kelly Splits Hairs on Pedophilia
https://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/epsteintrump-saga-gets-20k-pages-
longer-and-megyn-kelly-splits-hairs-on-pedophilia-the-daily-show/
The Daily Show
it is stated that Reverse speech is a pseudoscientific topic
REVERSE SPEECH - JAMES ALEFANTIS VS MEGYN KELLY
https://archive.org/details/reverse-speech-shocking-alefantis-vs-kelly
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a dual citizen, Romania Israeli? Lawrence Henry "Larry" Summers an American economist most famous for serving as United States Secretary of the Treasury from 1999 to 2001 and as the director of the National Economic Council from 2009 to 2010 also served as president of Harvard University from 2001 to 2006.
As Summers Sought Clandestine Relationship With Woman He Called a Mentee, Epstein Was His ‘Wing Man’
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/11/17/summers-epstein-wing-man
-woman-described-as-mentee/
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Every other political leader vs the USA at the UN meeting. US allies and adversaries use UN meeting to blast Venezuela intervention as America defends action
Trump allies, adversaries slam Venezuela attack at UN meeting
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/trump-allies-adversaries-slam-
venezuela-attack-at-un-meeting/
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Jimmy Kimmel says Trump invaded Venezuela to distract us from Epstein files
'Greenland belongs to its people': European leaders unite over Trump’s threats to annex territory
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/06/european-leaders-push-back-over-trumps
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Power restored to thousands of Berlin households after attack on lines causes several-day outage
https://www.aol.com/articles/power-restored-thousands-berlin-household
s-111240465.html
Left-wing group claims responsibility for sabotage causing Berlin blackout
https://www.politico.eu/article/left-wing-vulkan-group-claims-responsi
bility-sabotage-massive-blackout-berlin/
Americans get played yet again, as Epstein files might not be released in full until after Trump leaves office
https://www.newsweek.com/epstein-files-release-in-full-trump-office-11
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Salvatore Nuara, Zurab Mikeladze, Leonic Leonov, Nicola Caputo, Sultan Ahmed Bin Sulayem, Leslie Wexner
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Ro's just trying to throw as many bodies under the bus that he can before they dig up all the Epstien dirt on Ro.
I don't give a single shit about anybody's opinion in the Epstein files.
You all are nothing but a bunch of morons on either side.
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Hillary Clinton tells House panel she 'had no idea' of Epstein's crimes
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd6z3e1vdvzo
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Trump Nemesis Massie Rips Fox Host in Fiery Clap-Back: ‘Covering Up for Rich Men Who Raped Girls’
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-nemesis-massie-rips-fox-1926
46613.html
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Military report says 'one in a million' live fire malfunction rained shrapnel on California highway
https://apnews.com/article/marines-250th-camp-pendleton-shrapnel-calif
ornia-367baee09300fdfce0811454078cb71f
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Handing Out Epstein Files at CPAC
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String of 11 Missing or Dead Scientists with Ties to Classified Nuclear and Space Info Prompts Investigation
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And nobody responsible will go to prison, because nobody responsible for anything ever goes to prison.
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culture is conquered, generation nihilism, foreign immigration?
Half of young people would never fight for Britain
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/22/half-of-young-people-would
-never-fight-for-britain/
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UFO crazy ideas?
Chilling video shows UFO-linked scientist's encounters before death.
https://www.dailymail.com/sciencetech/article-15762405/ufo-scientist-a
my-eskridge-suicide-huntsville.html
EPSTEIN'S ZORRO RANCH Horror Unearthed — They're digging for buried bodies?
https://rumble.com/v78xo0w--boom-epsteins-zorro-ranch-horror-unearthed
-theyre-digging-for-buried-bodie.html
New Mexico Ranch
why did an investigation take so long?
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