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Serenity R2 DVD news!

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 10:00 AM

JAYRO


Can't believe that no-one has posted this yet, but Empire magazine ( www.empireonline.com) has big news on the UK release of Serenity. Apparently we'll be getting all the extras from the R1 release, plus a 20-minute R2 exclusive documentary entitled A Film-maker's Journey, detailing Joss's efforts to get the BDM made. Thank you Universal!

Sorry if this has already been posted, but I feel the need to spread the word!

27 February - UK Serenity Day!

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 10:08 AM

GROUNDED


I think it has been posted, but you still get points for the enthusiasm ;)

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 10:17 AM

JAYRO


Where was the post? I checked back to about November and couldn't find anything. Typical of me to be bearing old news. Woops!

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 10:29 AM

RELFEXIVE


I've not seen a thread about the Region 2 (UK & Europe) DVD anywhere else at all. So it's news to me, and maybe to everyone else too.

Well done for the scoop!



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Thursday, January 5, 2006 10:33 AM

KAZZAHDRANE


Posted before but always good to spread the word.

Region 4 (Australia etc) are getting 2 discs with a few more extras. I've pre-ordered one from there since I want as much Serenity goodness as I can get. Tin box too if you get it from EZDVD! Just make sure you've got a region-free DVD player of course :)

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 10:47 AM

JAYRO


Quote:

Originally posted by RelFexive:
I've not seen a thread about the Region 2 (UK & Europe) DVD anywhere else at all. So it's news to me, and maybe to everyone else too.

Well done for the scoop!



Thanks, RelFexive.

Mmm... tin box! Want! But how come only R4 gets the posh 2-disc treatment? Any news on these extra, er, extras?

Stores like HMV and Virgin sometimes produce exclusive collector's slipcases (Constantine was one such example - I counted four different cover options!). Maybe they'll do something for Serenity? I'll post nearer the time if I find out anything.

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 10:56 AM

KAZZAHDRANE


The extras from the site:

# A Filmmakers Journey - Journey with Joss from Script to Screen (exclusive to Australian DVD)
# Joss Whedon Q&A Session - Filmed at Fox Studios in Sydney (exclusive to Australian DVD)
# Extended Scenes (exclusive to Australian DVD)
# Take a Walk on Serenity - Cast and Crew take us on a special tour of the Serenity ship (exclusive to Australian DVD)
# The Green Clan - Expose on Cinematographer Jack Green and his team (exclusive to Australian DVD)

Obviously the first one is just exclusive to all the international versions of the DVD, but the rest are only in the Region 4 release AFAIK.

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 11:02 AM

JAYRO


Thanx, Kazzahdrane. Looks like I'm going to have to dust off my multi-region player. And my credit card.

G'day!

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 1:27 PM

DC4BS



That's why I pre-ordered an Australian copy from JB Hi Fi last month.

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvds/id/809477

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 3:38 PM

LADYSHELLEY


Keep in mind too that if you are buying other regions not only do you have to have a region free player, but one that will accept PAL (the US is on NTSC). If you don't your DVD's will look very distorted if they play at all.

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 4:21 PM

CHRONICTHEHEDGEHOG


Am 99.9% sure Region 4 DVDs will play on a Region 2 player, no need for a multi-region player.

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 4:52 PM

SCYTHE404


Quote:

Originally posted by Kazzahdrane:
Posted before but always good to spread the word.

Region 4 (Australia etc) are getting 2 discs with a few more extras. I've pre-ordered one from there since I want as much Serenity goodness as I can get. Tin box too if you get it from EZDVD! Just make sure you've got a region-free DVD player of course :)



As have i. Got it pre-ordered for day of release. Just hope my player works with it. Got a tin, too.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 1:20 AM

KAZZAHDRANE


Prepare to be wrong (I think).

It may be that many Region 4 DVDs are also Region 2 (check the box). For example, my South Park Season 1 DVDs are Regions 2,3,4,5 and 6: i.e. anywhere except North America.

However, Region 2 and 4 are both PAL, so what that means is that the picture will display correctly on your TV if you can get the Region 4 DVD to play.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 1:55 AM

DISKA


so as well as ordering two region 1 dvds which ive already done, and pre-ordering a copy of the region 2 dvd which ive already done, i now have to order the region 4 dvd? yikes, i mean its great for dvd sales but my bank balance will suffer!

will universal do that thing of later on re-releasing the film as a special edition with all these international extras?

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Friday, January 6, 2006 2:31 AM

KAZZAHDRANE


I'd say 'Versal probably will, especially if sales hold up for a reasonable period of time.

Chances are that they'd put things in that "Special Edition" that were totally new to all regions though, so all the Browncoats would want it.

Cast commentary - I'd buy a new copy just for that and Joss has said he'd love to do one for the film, they just didn't have time.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 3:22 AM

CAUSAL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jayro:
Sorry 'bout that, Region Oners, but remember of course that we UK moviegoers voted Serenity the NUMBER ONE film of the year on BBC Film 2005. Perhaps having such fine taste makes us more deserving of extra goodies!



Of course, this is not the first time such a theory has been put forth. Other incarnations have included "Serenity was number one at the box office in the UK, so they're giving us extra features." Naturally, that's all utter horseshit. And I for one resent the implication that Browncoats in other areas of the world didn't hold the line, and hence are less deserving than the ones in the UK.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 3:48 AM

JAYRO


Quote:

Originally posted by Causal:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jayro:
Sorry 'bout that, Region Oners, but remember of course that we UK moviegoers voted Serenity the NUMBER ONE film of the year on BBC Film 2005. Perhaps having such fine taste makes us more deserving of extra goodies!



Of course, this is not the first time such a theory has been put forth. Other incarnations have included "Serenity was number one at the box office in the UK, so they're giving us extra features." Naturally, that's all utter horseshit. And I for one resent the implication that Browncoats in other areas of the world didn't hold the line, and hence are less deserving than the ones in the UK.

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Ouch, touchy!

No implication intended, Causal. Of course I know that Browncoats worldwide have served with distinction, spreading the word and converting others to the shiny 'verse. I think it's unfair, in fact, that R1 owners are short-changed in this way - surely all Browncoats deserve the same high standard of extras, wherever they live?

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Friday, January 6, 2006 3:50 AM

CASSIUS


Does Amazon have an Oz version where I can order the Region 4?
Or am I going to have to order off some site I've never heard of?

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Friday, January 6, 2006 4:07 AM

CAUSAL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jayro:

Ouch, touchy!

No implication intended, Causal. Of course I know that Browncoats worldwide have served with distinction, spreading the word and converting others to the shiny 'verse. I think it's unfair, in fact, that R1 owners are short-changed in this way - surely all Browncoats deserve the same high standard of extras, wherever they live?

"We may have to resort to cannibalism."



Damn, skippy, touchy. Touchy because I wrote letters when it looked like the series was gonna get canceled. Touchy because I waited with bated breath to see if there'd be DVDs. Touchy because I wrote letters when Uni was thinking about making a movie. Toughy because of cons and shindigs and meetups attended. Touchy because of every person I called, emailed, and personally invited to come see the movie. Touchy because I watched the movie falter and fall at the box office (let's be honest, when your movie makes less in its entire run than others make in a weekend, that's bad). Touchy because now we have no idea if there'll be sequels. Touchy because when you say, "We got more than others because of what we did" you always imply (even if it's unintentional), "You got less because you didn't do as much as we did."

So yeah. A little touchy.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 4:10 AM

KAZZAHDRANE


Quote:

Originally posted by dc4bs:

That's why I pre-ordered an Australian copy from JB Hi Fi last month.

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvds/id/809477

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Dammit! Now I need to decide whether I want a tin box or a really pretty slipcase for my DVD!

I think I may cancel my order and go for the slipcase one...

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Friday, January 6, 2006 4:49 AM

ASTRIANA


Quote:

Originally posted by Jayro:
*SNIP*
I think it's unfair, in fact, that R1 owners are short-changed in this way - surely all Browncoats deserve the same high standard of extras, wherever they live?

"We may have to resort to cannibalism."

I suspect that the real reason is more along the lines of U.S. marketing versus the rest of the world. Universal is probably well aware that U.S. fans of any particular fandom (and yes, I'm generalizing) tend to be more willing than the rest of the world to buy the original, immediate release DVD, and then turn around and buy the Special Edition Director's Cut With Extra Special Never-Before-Seen Stuff a few months later. That being the case, Universal stands to make a lot more money by putting a "less complete" version of the DVD here and then turning around and selling the one with all the bells and whistles later.

This actually isn't necessarily a bad thing, though. More money from DVD sales means more likelihood of a sequel flick, right?

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Friday, January 6, 2006 5:03 AM

CAUSAL


Besides which, movie studio execs (or heads of any other major corp, for that matter) don't give out freebies as thanks to the fans. There's no profit in it, and as we all know, these entities exist to make profit. If other regions are getting special features that R1 doesn't get, I'm inclined to think that there's a money-making motive driving this, rather than some kind of special thank-you for voting Serenity number one on BBC.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 5:57 AM

KAZZAHDRANE


Amazing logic, considering this ONE extra was confirmed long before Serenity won Film 2005's award.

Yes, it has nothing to do with awards. More likely. it was a feature that wasn't finished in time for the American release (get it out before Xmas and sell a shedload, after all) or just a little teaser to try to get people to buy the DVD in their own territory rather than import from the USA.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 6:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Jayro:
Sorry 'bout that, Region Oners, but remember of course that we UK moviegoers voted Serenity the NUMBER ONE film of the year on BBC Film 2005. Perhaps having such fine taste makes us more deserving of extra goodies!





Save the pity. I have the U.K. and Aussie collectors tin editions both on pre-order. That & my brand new region free DVD player will see to it I get all the goodies there are to have.

Thanks for the concern though.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 7:57 AM

NEVERED


are laptop DVD players region free?

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Friday, January 6, 2006 8:24 AM

NANASHI


Laptop DVD drives aren't region free, HOWEVER, there's a free application you can download that will let you watch DVDs from other regions despite your DVD player being Region [whatever].

http://www.videolan.org

I don't use it myself (don't need to), but it's apparently a great piece of software.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 9:25 AM

JAYRO


Quote:


Damn, skippy, touchy. Touchy because I wrote letters when it looked like the series was gonna get canceled. Touchy because I waited with bated breath to see if there'd be DVDs. Touchy because I wrote letters when Uni was thinking about making a movie. Toughy because of cons and shindigs and meetups attended. Touchy because of every person I called, emailed, and personally invited to come see the movie. Touchy because I watched the movie falter and fall at the box office (let's be honest, when your movie makes less in its entire run than others make in a weekend, that's bad). Touchy because now we have no idea if there'll be sequels. Touchy because when you say, "We got more than others because of what we did" you always imply (even if it's unintentional), "You got less because you didn't do as much as we did."

So yeah. A little touchy.

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Now that's the kind of passion that gets movies made.

Being a fairly new convert to the 'verse (I discovered Firefly on DVD only last May), I sometimes forget that there are those out there who have been following and championing this cause for years. And without them, it's likely that there would be no BDM for me to watch and love. So thanks, guys and gals.

One does what one can to push the Firefly message, but it's easy to feel like the only person who cares about it when everyone you know seems ambivalent about sci-fi. Personally, I don't know many who made the effort to go see Serenity at the cinema (I went once with a friend and twice more on my own before the movie closed) and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

So hopefully the R2 DVD release will generate a new, more receptive audience over here. We do so love our home entertainment - and watching a DVD in the comfort of one's lounge seems increasingly preferable to, and cheaper than, a trip to the cinema.


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Friday, January 6, 2006 10:02 AM

MANOSBDH


Universal America hates us...

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Friday, January 6, 2006 10:20 AM

JAYRO


Quote:

Originally posted by ManosBDH:
Universal America hates us...



So it seems. One package for R1, another for R2, yet another for R4...

Yes, it's good that there are plenty of versions of the disc for the fans to collect - but why treat the 'home' audience (R1) so shoddily?

Smacks of the same dodgy marketing department that scuppered the movie theatrically.


"We may have to resort to cannibalism."
"Already?"

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Friday, January 6, 2006 10:30 AM

CAUSAL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jayro:
Smacks of the same dodgy marketing department that scuppered the movie theatrically.



Don't it just? Seems like it'll be up to the Browncoats (again).

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Friday, January 6, 2006 2:38 PM

SADLITTLEKING


Quote:

Originally posted by ManosBDH:
Universal America hates us...



Could just be that they left the other extras out so they could get the DVD out during the Holiday Season and so that they could later sell us a 2-disc special edition. The latter might happen if they sell enough of the current edition.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 8:43 PM

WESTIE


All o ya'll are crazy LOL - a few points

R1 will be re-released later on as a 2 disc, it's called "Double dipping" and Universal are widely renowned in the industry as one of the majors that uses this tool to great advantage, often the criticism is that it's a way to rip off the consumer, but anywho, it seems to work for them.

Like the music industry in Japan where it's much cheaper for the fan to import cds rather then buying local, the record companies always release their albums with bonus material not available in other territories for that reason to get people to buy direct rather then import.

extras on DVDs are often more prevalent on overseas markets for that very same reason (not always but more often then not) plus as with Serenity's case the window between the US release and the International release is too wide thus the option of giving them 'extra' to entice them to their version -

Universal aren't banking on fans buying various versions from around the world because the plain fact is that not that many (in the bigger scheme of things) will do that. 99% of the income will come direct from the local market. Each territory has to make money, not just as a collective but individual offices, which is why R1 will have more to come, they ain't finished yet - that's a guarantee.

so yeah it isn't 'bout who is more deserving - it's just about money.

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Sunday, January 8, 2006 2:35 AM

KANESKI


Yes... Australia kicks ass for the extras on the BDM DVD... comes out 8th February (off the top of my head) and got mine preordered from the local JBHIFI. Incidentally, I also start a great new job on the 8th. It's like a 2nd birthday.

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Sunday, January 8, 2006 2:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Westie:
R1 will be re-released later on as a 2 disc, it's called "Double dipping" and Universal are widely renowned in the industry as one of the majors that uses this tool to great advantage, often the criticism is that it's a way to rip off the consumer, but anywho, it seems to work for them.



I'm sure I read somewhere that Joss said Serenity would not be rereleased as a special edition. I hope they don't personally, I think it's an unfair marketting trick.

However they could easily make up a second disc, there's loads of stuff they could put on it. The River Tam Sessions for example.

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Sunday, January 8, 2006 3:02 AM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by CS:

I'm sure I read somewhere that Joss said Serenity would not be rereleased as a special edition. I hope they don't personally, I think it's an unfair marketting trick.

However they could easily make up a second disc, there's loads of stuff they could put on it. The River Tam Sessions for example.



I took the Joss quote (don't remember where it was from) as he wouldn't release a "Director's Cut" DVD, because the theatrical cut IS his Director's Cut.

This is probably the only time I wouldn't mind double-dipping on a DVD (and I detest the practice). The 2005 R1 release isn't exactly lacking in extras and it was really great to be able to gift it out for Christmas.

I figure an R1 Special Edition would have the R4 extras, the River Tam Sessions, the SciFi channel preview, and a cast commentary (at least).







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Monday, January 9, 2006 3:30 AM

CERES


I've pre-ordered the tin edition from ezydvd too. Thanks for the info.

Browncoat1 - do you mean you've pre-ordered a tin edition of R2 as well. If so where from?

At least the Region 1 dvd was available in the States before Christmas. I had to wait till January 4th before mine was delivered and I could get my Serenity fix.

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Monday, January 9, 2006 9:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Astriana:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jayro:
*SNIP*
I think it's unfair, in fact, that R1 owners are short-changed in this way - surely all Browncoats deserve the same high standard of extras, wherever they live?

"We may have to resort to cannibalism."

I suspect that the real reason is more along the lines of U.S. marketing versus the rest of the world. Universal is probably well aware that U.S. fans of any particular fandom (and yes, I'm generalizing) tend to be more willing than the rest of the world to buy the original, immediate release DVD, and then turn around and buy the Special Edition Director's Cut With Extra Special Never-Before-Seen Stuff a few months later. That being the case, Universal stands to make a lot more money by putting a "less complete" version of the DVD here and then turning around and selling the one with all the bells and whistles later.

This actually isn't necessarily a bad thing, though. More money from DVD sales means more likelihood of a sequel flick, right?

~Astriana~

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More money for the BDM is always a good thing, but they could have made a better cover for it at least. Zombies, cliche' lazers, llamas? I could make a better cover than that, and I'm a freshman in college!

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Monday, January 9, 2006 9:06 AM

JAYRO


Quote:

More money for the BDM is always a good thing, but they could have made a better cover for it at least. Zombies, cliche' lazers, llamas? I could make a better cover than that, and I'm a freshman in college!


I agree wholeheartedly. I made the same point about the cover in a previous thread:

Quote:

It looks like it was put together by someone on Photoshop and LSD.


Have any Browncoats posted any alternate versions in the Blue Sun Room? I seem to recall seeing one there, but can't find it now. Help!

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Monday, January 9, 2006 10:17 AM

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The UK-Import version is finally on preorder on Amazon Europe now. I ordered mine just a few minutes ago at the German Amazon page. It's 29,99 Euro here.

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Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:04 AM

JAYRO


Quote:

Originally posted by Pinballwizard:
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More money for the BDM is always a good thing, but they could have made a better cover for it at least. Zombies, cliche' lazers, llamas? I could make a better cover than that, and I'm a freshman in college!
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Well...



Anyone else agree that this cover design looks miles better than the much-maligned R1 version?

Roll on the 27th of Feb!

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Tuesday, January 10, 2006 7:02 AM

ANDRE83


Quote:

Originally posted by Kaneski:
Yes... Australia kicks ass for the extras on the BDM DVD... comes out 8th February (off the top of my head) and got mine preordered from the local JBHIFI. Incidentally, I also start a great new job on the 8th. It's like a 2nd birthday.



haha! I'm moving to Australia 6th of february and i'm arriving 8th :D

Guess what will be the first mission when i get out of the jet? Food yes...but second then :)

edit: personally i like this cover art best:



Its simple, and thats what i like.

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Tuesday, January 10, 2006 7:28 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by CS:

I'm sure I read somewhere that Joss said Serenity would not be rereleased as a special edition. I hope they don't personally, I think it's an unfair marketting trick.

However they could easily make up a second disc, there's loads of stuff they could put on it. The River Tam Sessions for example.



As someone said above, Joss said there'd be no "Director's Cut", which does not rule-out a feature packed "Special Edition".

And when it comes down to it, the decision is up to the studio, not Joss. Universal could release 12 seperate versions if they chose to. Not that I'm expecting 12, but I absolutely expect a 2nd release. Universal is notoriouse for "Double (and even tripple) Dipping".

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Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:16 AM

JAYRO


Quote:

Originally posted by Andre83:

edit: personally i like this cover art best:



Its simple, and thats what i like.

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing



Both are better than the original art. I prefer the simple version too, but the R2 cover matches closely with the international posters. Hopefully this will help people who were interested by said posters, but ultimately didn't make the trip to the cinema, to identify it on the shelves, and thereby boost sales.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:08 PM

LEEF


Hi, i was thinking of waiting for the uk release of serenity but i`ve noticed the running time is about 4 minutes shorter (115mins compared to 119mins). Does anybody know if this is correct and the film has been cut for the uk version (R2). If so i guess i`ll have to get an import version. If `Chronicles of Riddick` is anything to go by the cut version of that totally ruined a brilliant film.
cheers

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:18 PM

SIMONWHO


It's not cut, it's just that PAL shows things 1/25th faster than NTSC.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:34 PM

ZOIC


Here is the link to the Region 4 DVD with the Tin Case.

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/784707


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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:57 AM

LEEF


Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:
It's not cut, it's just that PAL shows things 1/25th faster than NTSC.



hi, thanks for the reply. i didn`t know that (learn something new every day
)

i`m sure i noticed that the australian version is also 119 minutes long the same as american but isnt that pal also?
cheers


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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:51 AM

KSC


Curious. When it says "Exclusive to Aussie dvd", does that mean it will NEVER be on another release besides that one, or are they just saying that out of the three versions available, this is the only one (right now) that has them?

Does that make sense?

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