GENERAL DISCUSSIONS

Updated Box Office Figures (11/10)

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:58 AM

GATORMARC



Domestic: $25,200,915
+ Overseas: $10,403,110
= Worldwide: $35,604,025

GatorMarc

Eat 'em up, chomp, chomp.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:12 AM

CONOR


nice and hopefully if the dvd sales do aswell as we all hope then its looking quite good for a sequel at the very least(will be keeping my fingers crossed all the same)

conor chaney

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:57 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Not as good as we might have hoped, but good nonetheless.

Now all we have to do is insure that the DVD sells like CRAZY!!!

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:57 AM

NEEDY

The road to Hel is paved with good intentions


not bad, hopefully it will soar when the dvds are released

Our cinema stopped showing it a week or two ago. How infuriating!

Needy. Male Companion a.k.a. First Boy Whore of Destiny

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:00 AM

RIVERSGUY


Does anyone have a region 2 DVD release date??

If its before Christmas I can buy loads and give them as presents, that would be a great way to boost the figures.

Just hope my Gran can handle reavers.....

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:48 AM

RONFLOR


I think it's Dec. 20. You would think they would release it earlier...too close to Christmas for me. I'll be standing in line, just the same.

"You're my kind of stupid"

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:06 AM

KT


Last showing in Greensboro, NC today!!! Get out for the last time to add to the box office!!!

I've seen it every weekend since it's opened. This is very sad...what will I do until 12/20?

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:22 AM

CS


Serenity is already number #20 at Amazon, on preorders only. I don't know how common this is but it sounds pretty impressive to me.

I really want Serenity for christmas but I haven't seen a UK release date (not on amazon.co.uk).

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:50 AM

QUASARWINDS


the movie didnt even break even!!! aghh.
ah well, theres always the dvd.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:57 AM

LISTER


Let's say the DVD's sell like crazy and Serenity makes it PAST $80 million faster than expected. Joss has Wonder Woman, that other horror script he just completed, and THEN another Firefly movie? How long do you think that would take? How hard will it be to get the cast together at the same time? And if it takes a long time to get everything going what kind of reception will it get when it's done? There is such as a thing as too long between movies.

Either someone else will have to direct it of Joss's choosing (I doubt it would take him long to write a script if it's not pretty much written already) or Wonder Woman will take a back seat. Now which of those two do you think Universal will go for?

One would think that in this life
Where no two snowflakes are alike
One would have a brilliant rhyme
For each and every bit of time.

- The Yeti, CLUTCH

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:10 AM

RONFLOR


Doesn't have to break even at the box office to stay alive. Money talks...wherever it comes from. The problem is that if the box office isn't great, less money will be provided for sequels...

"You're my kind of stupid"

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:35 AM

BIZZRAT


Well, Thats still good... But On Another note, Serenity Is coming back to a theater near my house. It is going to have subtitles, But im going to go at least 3 more times... To make it my 11th 12th and 13th time to see it! Im soo gorram pumped!

Hold your heads high browcoats, This fight aint over yet!

River Rocks My Socks Off! - Bizzrat

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:45 AM

RICKKER


This looks to be the last week in our multiplex, this last week it's only been on at 1015pm, tonight I'm going w/best friend, my nephew, and his cousin. If theres any browncoats in the Seattle area it's the Auburn regal 17 across from the supermall. Then I'm going to have my nephew keep an eye on his local mom/pop theatre for the BDM to show up there, then we'll go again. I watched Lost last night but checked in on Veronica During commercials and happen to catch Joss' bit, FUNNY.

Stay crunchy, even in milk. Bwahhaahaahaa I love that guy.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:40 PM

FLECHETTE


In some ways KT, I'm relieved this is the last showing- I'll be able to see Harry Potter without feeling guilty.

Tim and I have only seen Serenity since it came out - there are a few flicks we'd like to see but everytime we've started out we look at each other and go - we would rather feed Serenity's bottomline than someone elses......

Heh Maybe the $2 Sedgefield cinema will pick it up! Best of both worlds then - as they have the best popcorn!

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 1:25 PM

KAZZAHDRANE


Quote:

Originally posted by RiversGuy:
Does anyone have a region 2 DVD release date??

If its before Christmas I can buy loads and give them as presents, that would be a great way to boost the figures.



Latest rumours point to a February release in the UK, which I'd imagine will be fairly similar across Region 2. Shame they'll miss the Xmas rush, but it might help sales since I don't fancy Serenity's DVD chances up against Star Wars: Episode III for people who didn't see the movie in the cinema and know how good our film is. February might be a nice quiet slot, the big Xmas movies won't be out on DVD yet so Serenity might get some big sales.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 1:28 PM

THEGREYJEDI


Greensboro Represent!

It's a shame I'm broke and this is last minute. Might could have staged some sort of vanguard rush. Sigh.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:04 PM

DISCARIOT


Wow. I used to live in GSO--and hope to never go back. Bad times, but good people. Wish it were still playing up here in Virginie.

Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:22 PM

ANONYMOUS1


Quote:

Originally posted by KT:
I've seen it every weekend since it's opened. This is very sad...what will I do until 12/20?



Me too.

Here is what I am going to do:

1. I'm going to keep on buying on-line tickets.
Hey, I'm saving all this money not buying
popcorn and gasoline.

Serenity is still playing in the US even some
first run theaters:


http://imdb.com/title/tt0379786/cinemashowtimes?location=map

Earlier today, I bought a ticket for tomorrow
at a theater in another state:

Regal Hollywood 24 @ North I-85
3265 NE Expressway Access Rd
Chamblee, GA 30341

http://www.fandango.com/
http://movies.aol.com

2. Do some Christmas ordering and purchasing.
I have to find out if they want VHS, Dvd-Wide
screen or Dvd full screen. And as long as I'm
giving that, I just know they will want other Serenity stuff too like the novel or the comics or Official Visual Companion. The Books-A
-Million near me still have some Serenity The Official Movie Magazine (blue cover).

3. I'll keep checking the theaters, maybe
some theater owners will realize that we
were still going to see the movie.

4. Since I am now going to have an extra 4
hours on Saturday and Sunday, (1 hour 58 minutes + 1 hour drive 1 way), I'll be trying to
think of other Serenity things to do. I'll
have more time to read all this on-line stuff.

5. I'm going to watch Firefly on the Sci-Fi
channel.


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Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:22 PM

NCBROWNCOAT


You could go to Raleigh. It's playing at the Carmike 14 on Blue Ridge Rd. It looks like it'll be playing there all next week. Hey, it's only $1.50 but it has good company like "March of the Penguins.".

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:31 PM

HARTMEISTER


If Joss couldn't do it and Joss has say Serenity II will probably be lighter in tone than I, I vote for some of the directors of the most humorous episodes like:

Vondie Curtis-Hall (episode 1.07 "Our Mrs. Reynolds")

Vern Gillum (episode 1.05 "Shindig") (episode 1.12 "Trash")

Marita Grabiak (episode 1.08 "Jaynestown")

Of course the most logical person would be
Tim Minear (episode 1.04 "Bushwhacked") (episode 1.13 "Message, The")

However, my favorite person to co-write and possible direct would be to get Ben Edlund to help write the movie. He did a good job in writing (episode 1.08 "Jaynestown"), (episode 1.12 "Trash") for the show and of course he was one of the producers for the show. Of course Ben did a great job with "The Tick" character which he made into comic book, TV cartoon and TV live action (you know I think he would make a good fit with Pixar). Ben just has a great sense of humor and I think that is what needs to be emphasized in Serenity II.

I think getting an outside director might be problematic unless the director was a good fan of the series. I think only potential directors who consider who

1) have seen both the entire series and the movie
2) have a record of movies that contain action AND comedy
3) consider themselves fans of Firefly

should be interviewed.

Otherwise we'll get the result that happened in the Star Trek movies where costumes and tone shift radically when new directors where brought in. That could be explained pretty easy in the Star Trek universe (after all the Federation like the Alliance is rich) but not as easily in the Firefly 'verse.

Quote:

Originally posted by Lister:
Let's say the DVD's sell like crazy and Serenity makes it PAST $80 million faster than expected. Joss has Wonder Woman, that other horror script he just completed, and THEN another Firefly movie? How long do you think that would take? How hard will it be to get the cast together at the same time? And if it takes a long time to get everything going what kind of reception will it get when it's done? There is such as a thing as too long between movies.

Either someone else will have to direct it of Joss's choosing (I doubt it would take him long to write a script if it's not pretty much written already) or Wonder Woman will take a back seat. Now which of those two do you think Universal will go for?

One would think that in this life
Where no two snowflakes are alike
One would have a brilliant rhyme
For each and every bit of time.

- The Yeti, CLUTCH


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Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:49 PM

TALLGRRL


Quote:

Originally posted by Lister:
Let's say the DVD's sell like crazy and Serenity makes it PAST $80 million faster than expected. Joss has Wonder Woman, that other horror script he just completed, and THEN another Firefly movie? How long do you think that would take? How hard will it be to get the cast together at the same time? And if it takes a long time to get everything going what kind of reception will it get when it's done? There is such as a thing as too long between movies.

Either someone else will have to direct it of Joss's choosing (I doubt it would take him long to write a script if it's not pretty much written already) or Wonder Woman will take a back seat. Now which of those two do you think Universal will go for?



Presuming that the movie gets the greenlight sometime next year or eary 2007, it would probably take about a year to make (including post production).
And then there's the individual cast member's schedules. I'm hoping that they all get a LOT of work because of Serenity/Firefly.
We probably wouldn't see a sequel till Fall of 2008. (Remember, 2006 is just a month and a half away.)

Wonder Woman will not take a back seat.
Joss is already working on it, it's in pre-production.
"Goners" is also in the pipeline for Joss.
I've read somewhere that because of all of this love Joss is getting, Tim Minnear would possibly direct a Serenity sequel.



"Take me, sir. Take me hard." -- Zoe

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:57 PM

CAPTAIN


Keep in mind that the cast is already signed to at least a sequel if it gets greenlit. They signed up when they signed their contracts for the first flick.

Patience, patience and all will be revealed.

Take care all.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:04 PM

BIZZRAT


One more thing i would like to throw in. If any browncoats lives in or near Amarillo,Texas and would like to see Serenity again (its coming back to a theater near my house with subtitles) send me an email at benneh15@yahoo.com or post on this forum.

Would love to meet other browncoats. I have never met another browncoat before, no one that i know of share the same pasion for it.

- Bizzrat -

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:45 PM

MUSTHAVEMOREFIREFLY


I just want to say that I am somewhat new to the Firefly 'verse. Like a lot of people, I didn't give firefly the chance it deserved when it was on fox, but a friend of mine said that I HAD to see Serenity. After I saw it I immediately bought Firefly on DVD. I fell in love with both the film, and moreso with the show. I KNOW that something more will come of Firefly, whatever it is, another movie, a new season, anything. So many of us in the world need it. And no amount of fan-fiction or RPGs will ever fill that need.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:50 PM

RANDOMSIGNAL


Quote:

... There is such as a thing as too long between movies.

Tell that to George Lucas

Seriously, you've got a point, but I prefer to keep hoping for another encore--somehow.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:58 PM

RANDOMSIGNAL


Yeh, I just discovered Firefly recently too. I don't watch TV--don't have the attention span to sit through commercials--I discovered Firefly through Netflix. Of course I went out and bought the DVD set immediately. I really love the series, and the movie--although he shouldn't have killed Wash--but I want more. Waahhh!

They can't stop the signal

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:08 PM

LISTER


Let me be more clear. What I am saying is that if Serenity ends up doing well enough to warrant a sequel, which I think it just might, Joss suddenly has two other projects he's working on for Universal. I would like it to get greenlit and be ready in a few years, but if it has to wait for two other movies I think Universal might as soon cut bait then wait too long.

But that is where another director would come in, hopefully someone of Joss's choosing. Even if it wasn't of his choosing I would think Joss would be involved enough that his vision wouldn't get skewed. In fact I would bet money he would rather have it not be made than have it be different from his vision.

One would think that in this life
Where no two snowflakes are alike
One would have a brilliant rhyme
For each and every bit of time.

- The Yeti, CLUTCH

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:04 PM

HOBANIWASHBURNE


Quote:

Originally posted by Byrd101:
What a bunch of bull. Even now, there won't be a sequel, not a chance. The only people who saw this movie were the fans + change, and that's not enough. I've heard the stories, all the damn stories about how people walked into a movie theater and saw 50 people who, they say, are first timers, and really enjoyed the movie. How the hell do they know what other people are thinking... 50 people especially. But look at the numbers: $24 Million, and not even $40 Million worldwide. And they say there will be a sequel, or a tv series, or whatever the hell people think is able to be produced after a movie just bombed at the box office. Look at "Saw II", "Saw II" cost $4 Million to make and has already grossed $30 Million in the US alone. Now that's what it takes to get a sequel going, a strong opening. Not some sad $10 Million in the first weekend. And they say, well compared to the per-theater gross, it did rather well, but not really, not at all. "Serenity" earned about $4160 per screen, and all that after "lots" of attention, or somewhat too little I say. And compared to the first "Saw" movie with little favor prior to the film ended up grossing over $18 Million in its first weekend alone, with $7895 per screen, at a production budget of $1,200,000 (that's right $1.2 Million). And I got my info from the-numbers.com so I ain't making this stuff up.





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Not to ruin the show.... but me thinks thar be a troll spotting. Heheee... this same entery is listed in about seven different threads... (click on his name and read threads. Ohh! Ahh! Wow. Yuppers. Same thing in many places.)

Me thinks he be trying to jerk chains. I say ignore 'em.





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Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:59 PM

BELISARIUS


So I thought I'd mention this...

Serenity is a no show in South African shores, coming straight to DVD.

I'm filled with fiery anger


Ok maybe just depression

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:01 PM

HOBANIWASHBURNE


Awww. Bugger. Well, I suppose as long as it's available in come capacity.... it can't be all that bad.

Large screen TV?

"Therapy is expensive. Bubble wrap is cheap. The choice is yours."

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Friday, November 11, 2005 5:21 AM

RIVERNOT


The local multiplex had dropped it down to 2 showings last weekend, but it's back up to 4 this weekend. Yay!!

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Friday, November 11, 2005 5:24 AM

SWEETSAXONBOY


It's hard to contain my excitement over the success of the film, as well as an apparent groundswell of interest in the television series through the DVD release. I'm a newbie to "FireFly" but today I just finished the DVD set and CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE! Saw the movie "Serenity" BEFORE the DVD set, and wish I had seen them in reverse order! I now absolutely MUST buy the movie once it is available. The series cast is so excellent in the television it's hard to believe how perfectly matched they really are! Everyone who loves this series should promote it among their friends and family, and with any luck the networks can be shamed into continuing this superb show. Overall, it blows away most other sciefi series in that it does NOT rely on ridiculous rubber-suited characters, transporters and other gismos: its success lies largerly in it being character and plot driven - this is how great television ought to be. Let's hear it, folks!



Sweetsaxonboy Canada

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Friday, November 11, 2005 5:42 AM

GTHING


You know, if a sequel has to come straight to DVD everywhere with a lower budget, I'll still be happy. It's Firefly, and there are some unanswered questions left to be explored.


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Friday, November 11, 2005 6:19 AM

MARC


I'm in Greensboro, It is still listed at the Grand thismorning. I have seen the movie 3 times, and turned many friends on to it. I say heck with another movie. GET the show back on TV. Then we can watch a new story every week, rather than waiting for one every 3 years.
Sir Marc

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Friday, November 11, 2005 6:21 AM

SHOGUN




I thoroughly enjoyed this movie, tommorrow my sister and her friends are going to watch it at the AMC interchange 30 in Concord, Ontario, Canada. Check with AMC listing near Toronto. It is also playing at the AMC Winston Churchill 24 in Ontario, Canada.

Serenity play's at both theaters until Thursday November 17th. Take all your friends and families
The Browncoats need you now more that ever...

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Friday, November 11, 2005 6:30 AM

SHOGUN




I totally agree with you, though I would like to see both. To have the season finale' as a movie after two (2) years would be great. I say too since its a lot of work to do one every year. I would like to see more firefly on tv as long as it doesn't become another show and completely drag out who the characters are and where they came from. ie 5 years later we find out where Shepard Book came from. All the same, the show is awesome.

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Friday, November 11, 2005 6:32 AM

RESOLUTE


I for one, am going to buy the DVD for everyone I know. NO one's going to say I didn't do my part.

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Friday, November 11, 2005 8:56 AM

KGAZETTE


Statisically, revenue from the theater releases only equal 16% of the total earnings. Most comes from DVD. So, if 35.6 million = 16%, then that makes the total revenue: 222.5 million. Not a number to squak at... perhaps even a sequel-producing total.

So the answer: BUY THOSE DVDS!

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Friday, November 11, 2005 9:29 AM

KT


"I'm in Greensboro, It is still listed at the Grand this morning." Marc

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Where are you seeing this? According to the paper, Yahoo movie listings and the ticket guy at the Grande last night when I went in for the second time - it's gone today (which is of course why I saw it twice last night!)I'd love it if it were really still here!

NC Browncoat says it's in Raleigh though so I may be making a trip there this weekend. I have a friend I haven't visited for awhile and know she has not seen this - I'll drag her if I have too...knowing she'll thank me in the end of course!

Or we can hope that Fleschette is right and it comes to Sedgefield!! Wish I had noticed it leaving sooner - we could have rallied a big send off for the girl like TheGreyJedi suggested. Too busy at work I guess...which I'd better get back too!

Glad to know there are fellow Greensboro (and surrounding areas) folks who love this.

We'll just keep plugging away. If we could just hit that 39 million before it disappears from the theaters forever I'd feel so much better...


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Friday, November 11, 2005 4:50 PM

MARC


It must have been yesterdays paper that I looked at. Oh well. Only a bit over a month till we can watch it as much as we like. M

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Friday, November 11, 2005 6:08 PM

BROWNTROUSERS


Nice, The production budget was only 39 million, so i see these figures as a good sign, especialy with the DVD not out set.

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Friday, November 11, 2005 8:25 PM

ANNABELLEOFGEORGIA


I was shocked and angry that Serenity only stayed in my town 2 weeks! I only got to see it twice; I was planning on going twice more one weekend, but it disappeared on Thursday.

I'm trying hard to do my bit for "The Cause" by buying the DVDs, the movie Companion book, the series soundtrack, and pre-ordering the movie DVD.

While at Amazon, I saw a Serenity book authored by Joss. Turns out there will be an 80-page DarkHorse comic (graphic novel, for you purists) of what sounds like a totally new episode. DarkHorse does a marvelous job - the illustrations of Mal & Jayne are PERFECTly true to life. I went ahead and ordered it.

Don't make me feel like a sucker: Everybody get out there and buy the ruttin' thing! Let's all apply those cardiac infusers and cortical electrodes and get a pulse back in this thing!


If Jayne is a man-ape gone wrong, then I don't want to be right.

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Friday, November 11, 2005 9:05 PM

KUDRASHIVA


Only 35 mil!!!! I thought it would be more than that b/c I was going to see it again. I got hooked badly. I didn't know what the movie nor the series was until after the movie and within a week, a watched all 14 episodes on DVD!!!!

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:44 AM

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Originally posted by Lister:
Let me be more clear. What I am saying is that if Serenity ends up doing well enough to warrant a sequel, which I think it just might, Joss suddenly has two other projects he's working on for Universal. I would like it to get greenlit and be ready in a few years, but if it has to wait for two other movies I think Universal might as soon cut bait then wait too long. - The Yeti, CLUTCH



Yeah, but this is a corporation we're talking about.
There's no "too long" if there's money to be made.
As long as the Firefly DVD set is selling and intro'ing people to the 'verse, and when the movie DVD comes out (by the way Amazon has a Serenity+Firefly package dealio some o' y'all might want to jump on)...well, if it sells the way a lot of us think it will, a greenlight sometime in '06, production in '07 and a release in '08 isn't unreasonable.
I'm pragmatic to the point of cynical, and I've worked in "The Industry" for many years (which might be a reason for the cynical part) but I'm thinking that the movie will break even and ancillary sales (DVDs and anything else licensed by Uni like comics, soundtracks, games, whatever) will take it nicely over the top. And at least get them thinking about a sequel. If they're not already doing so.
Uni isn't likely to drop the ball on a mini-franchise. Not when there's cashy money to be found.
But it all remains to be seen.


"Take me, sir. Take me hard." -- Zoe

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 1:28 PM

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Originally posted by Byrd101:
What a bunch of bull. Even now, there won't be a sequel, not a chance. The only people who saw this movie were the fans + change, and that's not enough. I've heard the stories, all the damn stories about how people walked into a movie theater and saw 50 people who, they say, are first timers, and really enjoyed the movie. How the hell do they know what other people are thinking... 50 people especially. But look at the numbers: $24 Million, and not even $40 Million worldwide. And they say there will be a sequel, or a tv series, or whatever the hell people think is able to be produced after a movie just bombed at the box office. Look at "Saw II", "Saw II" cost $4 Million to make and has already grossed $30 Million in the US alone. Now that's what it takes to get a sequel going, a strong opening. Not some sad $10 Million in the first weekend. And they say, well compared to the per-theater gross, it did rather well, but not really, not at all. "Serenity" earned about $4160 per screen, and all that after "lots" of attention, or somewhat too little I say. And compared to the first "Saw" movie with little favor prior to the film ended up grossing over $18 Million in its first weekend alone, with $7895 per screen, at a production budget of $1,200,000 (that's right $1.2 Million). And I got my info from the-numbers.com so I ain't making this stuff up.



Saw II had better advertising (I can't think of a single ad for Serenity that I think would play particularly strongly to a non-fan, especially the TV spots which were HORRIBLE) and a better release date. Nothing that came out the same week as Serenity did well. You know, the truth is that Universal was too scared to put it out against Episode III, but if they had a lot more people probably would have gone to see it since they'd have been looking for a good sci-fi alternative when it became apparent just how bad Episode III was.

Here's hoping we see another movie, but I'm not counting on it.

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