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Fans launch 'Help Nathan Buy Firefly' movement.

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UPDATED: Thursday, March 3, 2011 15:26
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Wednesday, February 23, 2011 8:47 AM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.


EW.COM - Firefly fans have launched a Web site and Facebook page trying to rally support to help Nathan Fillion buy the rights to the canceled Fox series.

Earlier this week, Fillion told EW he’d be willing to reprise his Firefly role as Captain Mal again. Then he added: “If I got $300 million from the California Lottery, the first thing I would do is buy the rights to Firefly, make it on my own, and distribute it on the Internet...

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/02/21/help-nathan-fillion-buy-firefly/


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Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:39 AM

CANTTAKESKY


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/02/23/bring.back.firefly/index.ht
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(CNN) -- True Browncoats, like the fictional freedom fighters they named themselves after, don't give up easily.

Those diehard fans of "Firefly," the 2002 cult TV hit, have a history of turning to the internet to buck improbable odds in defense of their favorite show.

Now, they're at it again.

Just days after an apparently offhand comment from Nathan Fillion, who played Capt. Malcolm Reynolds on the short-lived Fox series, the Web has once again lit up with efforts to revive the sci-fi franchise.

Last week, Fillion, who now stars in ABC's "Castle," told Entertainment Weekly he'd love to play Mal again. Then, he ratcheted things up a notch.

"If I got $300 million from the California Lottery, the first thing I would do is buy the rights to "Firefly," make it on my own, and distribute it on the internet," Fillion told EW, a CNN.com partner.

Then, some possibly surprising online reactions started rolling in.

The next day, former "Firefly" writer Jose Molina wrote on Twitter: "For what it's worth, I've told him I'd drop what I was doing and follow."

Then, Jane Espenson, who wrote an episode, chimed in: "I'm there, if needed," she tweeted.

Jewel Staite, who played ace mechanic Kaylee on the show, had a simple answer when a Twitter follower asked if she'd be on board: "Is the Pope Catholic?"

That was more than enough for fans (whose "Browncoat" nickname, by the way, comes from the Western-style dusters worn by Fillion and others on the show).

A website, "Help Nathan Buy Firefly," popped up, under the title "Let's get the Captain his money."

The goal? To set up a means of collecting pledges that would turn into donations if a revived "Firefly" looks like it could become a reality.

The pledge system hadn't been officially created as of Tuesday, but fans were already writing in the site's comment section that they're willing to pony up.

In five days, the site's Facebook group had picked up more than 33,000 members -- about 10,000 of them in the past 24 hours.

...snip....



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Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:37 AM

BARDOFSHADOW

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the cnn link doesn't work :(

its a strange world, Charlie Brown

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Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:49 PM

GWEK


The continuing and evolving Firefly saga has been on the CNN front page at least twice this week.

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Friday, February 25, 2011 6:04 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


http://helpnathanbuyfirefly.com/

--Anthony

Assured by friends that the signal-to-noise ratio has improved on this forum, I have disabled web filtering.

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Friday, February 25, 2011 6:07 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Also:

http://www.facebook.com/HelpNathanBuyFF

--Anthony

Assured by friends that the signal-to-noise ratio has improved on this forum, I have disabled web filtering.

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Thursday, March 3, 2011 4:42 AM

HERO


Why have a pledge system? I got this idea from the way some folks are investing in lawsuits (a moneymarket fronts the cash for a contingency lawsuit and then takes a percentage of the award as a return on the investment).

Seems to me it would not be difficult to take Firefly public. Make a corporation, sell shares, raise the capital to buy the rights and produce new content. Books, movies, tv, comics, clothing lines (who wouldn't buy a real Browncoat brown coat), etc. Buying the entire asset seems no different then any other corporate venture (like buying a shuttered factory or storefront).

Best of all, we all own a piece instead of simply donating our money so he can own it all. If successful Firefly Inc. would have employees, it could make further investments (like buying Dollhouse), it could enter into partnerships with other businesses like TV networks.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I would rather not ignore your contributions." Niki2, 2010.

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Thursday, March 3, 2011 4:47 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Why have a pledge system? I got this idea from the way some folks are investing in lawsuits (a moneymarket fronts the cash for a contingency lawsuit and then takes a percentage of the award as a return on the investment).

Seems to me it would not be difficult to take Firefly public. Make a corporation, sell shares, raise the capital to buy the rights and produce new content. Books, movies, tv, comics, clothing lines (who wouldn't buy a real Browncoat brown coat), etc. Buying the entire asset seems no different then any other corporate venture (like buying a shuttered factory or storefront).

Best of all, we all own a piece instead of simply donating our money so he can own it all. If successful Firefly Inc. would have employees, it could make further investments (like buying Dollhouse), it could enter into partnerships with other businesses like TV networks.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I would rather not ignore your contributions." Niki2, 2010.


That basically sounds like forming a studio. You don't think that would be difficult? I'd imagine it's much more complicated than you'd think. Plus that would still leave us searching for someone to buy the shows that are produced. Which usually comes first. I'm pretty sure if some network wanted to buy the shows then Fox studios would be making them as we speak.

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Thursday, March 3, 2011 11:37 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
That basically sounds like forming a studio. You don't think that would be difficult? I'd imagine it's much more complicated than you'd think. Plus that would still leave us searching for someone to buy the shows that are produced. Which usually comes first. I'm pretty sure if some network wanted to buy the shows then Fox studios would be making them as we speak.


This is an investment. If you make a good product, people will buy it. So we raise capital, buy the copyright. Then we contract with small, independent studios to make the episodes while at the same time marketing the show internationally which should sell well in Britain and Australia. Seems we follow the model of shows like 'Sons of Anarchy' and 'Justified' and design the show for cable networks rather then broadcast TV. All this costs money upfront. Thats why Nathan wants $300 million.

The hard part is finding new actors, perhaps we could do a spinoff series instead.

I'd do a pilot episode starting with a brand new off the assembly line Firefly class transport, maybe even the last one as it comes off the production line as they shut the line down and the lay off all the union workers including a brand new you fella (true blue 'I love the Alliance' type) who suddenly sees his career and plans down the tube as the reality of corporate corruption comes crashing home, then skip ahead however many years and reunite that older more experianced fella with the last Firefly. His wife left him, maybe did some jail, maybe a substance abuse problem, etc.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I would rather not ignore your contributions." Niki2, 2010.

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Thursday, March 3, 2011 11:55 AM

ZEEK


No offense but I wouldn't invest in that.

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Thursday, March 3, 2011 12:20 PM

RIONAEIRE

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I'd rather see a new Firefly with new charactors then to see my favorite charactors and ship taken in a direction I don't fancy. So my vote goes to a new ship/new charactors, like all the fan shows do.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, March 3, 2011 12:40 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Why have a pledge system? I got this idea from the way some folks are investing in lawsuits (a moneymarket fronts the cash for a contingency lawsuit and then takes a percentage of the award as a return on the investment).

Seems to me it would not be difficult to take Firefly public. Make a corporation, sell shares, raise the capital to buy the rights and produce new content. Books, movies, tv, comics, clothing lines (who wouldn't buy a real Browncoat brown coat), etc. Buying the entire asset seems no different then any other corporate venture (like buying a shuttered factory or storefront).

Best of all, we all own a piece instead of simply donating our money so he can own it all. If successful Firefly Inc. would have employees, it could make further investments (like buying Dollhouse), it could enter into partnerships with other businesses like TV networks.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I would rather not ignore your contributions." Niki2, 2010.


That basically sounds like forming a studio. You don't think that would be difficult? I'd imagine it's much more complicated than you'd think. Plus that would still leave us searching for someone to buy the shows that are produced. Which usually comes first. I'm pretty sure if some network wanted to buy the shows then Fox studios would be making them as we speak.



Interesting. Wasn't Joss talking about something like forming his own studios using mutant enemy as a basis, just after the end of Dollhouse?

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Thursday, March 3, 2011 12:44 PM

BYTEMITE


While there are several plotlines I'd like to see tied up with the original Firefly crew, I'd accept either original crew or new crew for a Firefly series. My only condition for watching it is Joss would either have to be involved or he'd get to personally select his successor.

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Thursday, March 3, 2011 1:16 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
While there are several plotlines I'd like to see tied up with the original Firefly crew, I'd accept either original crew or new crew for a Firefly series. My only condition for watching it is Joss would either have to be involved or he'd get to personally select his successor.


To me it wasn't the setting and verse that mattered it was the characters. Without them it's just like any other new show that may or may not strike my interest. If it was a reboot of Firefly with a slightly different take on the same characters I'd be at least a little more interested. A brand new show set in the verse doesn't really do anything for me.

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Thursday, March 3, 2011 1:59 PM

BYTEMITE


I liked the setting AND the characters. I think there's a lot of potential for both, as well as new characters in fitting with the setting. But to each their own.

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Thursday, March 3, 2011 3:26 PM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
A brand new show set in the verse doesn't really do anything for me.


Most of the actors are doing other things. You might get one or two, or msybe a tv movie with three or four, but no more. And the new Firefly Inc. could not afford them.

What you do is relaunch the franchise with new characters and bring the old ones by once in a while for guest appearances.

And there are other characters as well. How about the new ship visits a place visited in the other series...or the new captain ends up married to Saffron for an episode. It'd be easy to twist that with Saffron falling in real love only to be left heartbroken by the side of the road.

One thing about Firefly is that their verse is full of characters...even the folks who got one line in one episode were great characters.

The crew is easy. A captain running from the world, a pilot who wants only to soar, a mechanic who can fix anything (maybe make him the unemployed union fella who helped build the last Firefly), and a couple pick ups and tag alongs. I for one would love to see a certain former operative...perhaps as a Sheppard...or maybe even as the captain (a man searching for meaning and redemption and probably on the run from the folks who got screwed in Serenity).

Tons of storylines. How about resettling Miranda or finding a lost Earth ship hmmm...full of frozen Khans...no, been done, but why is the alliance so eager to hide the truth about Earth? That would be a great season plotline. Maybe a cliffhanger where an actual ship arrives from Earth and reveals its all a lie. Or maybe the ship is not what it seems.

Getting the old series back with the old crew is a pipe dream. But a lot can be accomplished if you bring in a new crew and do tie-ins to the old series and the movie.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I would rather not ignore your contributions." Niki2, 2010.

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