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Serenity beating Avatar for Best SciFi Movie of the 00's

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Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:57 AM

JAKE7


AMC is running poll:
http://movies.amctv.com/movie-guide/the-best-scifi-movies-of-the-00s.p
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Let's keep Serenity #1!!

Here's another one, but I'm really torn as I love the Millenium Falcon:
http://polls.amctv.com//chart/data/1150-round-1-match-1.html


Edited to add:
In the second poll, Serenity is beating out all the competition! It's currently beating the Starship Enterprise! Yay!

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Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:32 AM

TRAVELER


I love how the Enterprise people moan over Serenity beating their ship in the vote.


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Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:32 PM

LWAVES


It's not really a contest against Serenity. The others stand no chance as good as most of them are.

Half of the movies listed aren't even sci-fi.
Eternal Sunshine is hard to clarify but probably just drama. 28 Days Later is a horror. V For Vendetta is a vigilante/action movie. Blade is a supernatural/action movie.
And yes, I can see they all have an element of sci-fi but in that case so does every Bond movie and Babe as well coz it feaures a pig that can talk!

Now the spaceship tournament was better. Serenity win that of course. The weapon one would be tough as I can't really choose between a lightsaber and the M41a Pulse Rifle.



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Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:37 PM

KWICKO

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I'd have to say that Avatar's rather handily beating out Serenity for the money title, though.

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Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:34 PM

BORIS


I was just thinking the other day after seeing Avatar. Imagine Serenity in 3D...god how cool! Apologies If I'm not the first to post this sentiment.

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Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:20 PM

CALHOUN


Quote:

lwaves wrote:
Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:32

The weapon one would be tough as I can't really choose between a lightsaber and the M41a Pulse Rifle.





Oooooooh! No contest. M41a Pulse rifle wins hands down! Always loved the sound those caseless explosive rounds made.

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Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:38 PM

FREEBROWNCOAT


Impresses that SERENITY is so far ahead. Quality vs novelty.

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Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:16 PM

JRNYFAN


really shouldn't be hard to win that poll of best movie, Avatar was aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawful. James Cameron should be arrested for impersonating someone with talent.

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Monday, February 1, 2010 12:08 AM

CALHOUN


Quote:

jrnyfan wrote:
Sunday, January 31, 2010 23:16

Avatar was aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawful. James Cameron should be arrested for impersonating someone with talent.



Hahhah.. opinions really are like assholes, everyone has one.

I liked Avatar.








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Monday, February 1, 2010 1:41 AM

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Okay I voted for our little show.....


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Monday, February 1, 2010 9:36 AM

BYTEMITE


It's okay to like Avatar, but better than Serenity? Avatar is a good escapist fantasy romp, and okay, it does have a good message about environmentalism and cultural tolerance, but Serenity has bigger themes that resonate on personal and political level. Themes about a government military doing research on mind control and population control that's gotten OUT of control.

That, and I'm sorry, but James Cameron desperately needs to hire someone else to do his dialogue. It's not as bad as Stars Wars Episode 1-3, but Avatar, Titanic and his other movies are barely passable, if not outright wince-worthy.

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Monday, February 1, 2010 10:28 AM

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Monday, February 1, 2010 11:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
It's okay to like Avatar, but better than Serenity? Avatar is a good escapist fantasy romp, and okay, it does have a good message about environmentalism and cultural tolerance, but Serenity has bigger themes that resonate on personal and political level. Themes about a government military doing research on mind control and population control that's gotten OUT of control.

That, and I'm sorry, but James Cameron desperately needs to hire someone else to do his dialogue. It's not as bad as Stars Wars Episode 1-3, but Avatar, Titanic and his other movies are barely passable, if not outright wince-worthy.



I don't even like the heavy handed message. Environmentalism and cultural tolerance are fine but how about the message that anyone in the military is some kind of xenophobic, hate-mongering fascist? As an army brat, I was incredibly offended. That movie was total garbage.

The amount of money a movie makes is absolutely no gauge on its quality. Anyone who claims to be a browncoat can't say otherwise. I'm happy to report that in the above poll, Serenity is now well ahead just as we conquer every other online poll.

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Monday, February 1, 2010 11:58 AM

BYTEMITE


Well... The question I have here is, is Avatar MEANT to represent the military, as in THE military, or are these "military contractors?" There's an awful lot of corporate heads hanging around there. Makes me almost wonder if military hasn't been farmed out as to private security forces in whatever year in the future Avatar takes place in. And military contractors tend to vary by organization in their mindset. Could be the mindset depicted was just representative of that particularly contractor.

As to whether everyone in the military is a xenophobic hate-mongering fascist, no, of course not. Blanket statements about an entire group are bad. In recent times, most of the people in the military are people enlisted because they were poor, or because they wanted to work through college, or both.

There are some groups within the military who do have some odd thinking, however. That's not to say that they don't think they're serving the best interests of their country, but I do have some wariness in regards to methods and threat assessment. Good intentions don't always make someone right. And, as with any country on earth, there is propaganda, and sometimes those messages resonate particularly with certain groups that may not represent us as well as we would like.

So it's not all or nothing, my view is the military is somewhere in the middle.

Of course, I also think there are people controlling the military who do NOT have America's best interests at heart. And I'm not talking about the Generals or the Admirals or even the President, who more and more I'm thinking is just clueless.

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Monday, February 1, 2010 12:03 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Well... The question I have here is, is Avatar MEANT to represent the military, as in THE military, or are these "military contractors?"



It's not even a question of what they meant - it's stated explicitly in the film that they were mercenaries - contractors through a private military corporation.

And being fight-for-money types, I had no problem with how they were portrayed.

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Monday, February 1, 2010 12:17 PM

BYTEMITE


That's what I thought. So I guess I'm not seeing all the out-cry over marine/army stereotyping.

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Monday, February 1, 2010 2:49 PM

AURAPTOR

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Joss would have made a very pretty movie if he had a 300 million $$ budget.

I'm just sayin'.



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Wednesday, February 3, 2010 9:18 AM

TDBROWN


Joss is very thrifty. With a $300 Million bu8dget he could have made at least FIVE Serenity Films or spin-offs!

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Wednesday, February 3, 2010 3:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by boris:
I was just thinking the other day after seeing Avatar. Imagine Serenity in 3D...god how cool! Apologies If I'm not the first to post this sentiment.



Good idea!

It might be possible to make your own DIY video of Serenity in 3D.

A color filter in most video editing software allows one-click or multi layers of desaturated color replaced with red or green color, then the 3 color layers shifted slightly to give the 3D effect. Any generic 3D glasses could be worn to view the modified movie.



Or it would just be really frakked up, with EVERYTHING jumping out of the screen, causing epileptic seizure.

How to Make 3D Movies
http://www.ehow.com/video_4755772_make-3d-movies.html
http://www.5min.com/Video/4-Minute-Film-School---Make-a-3D-Movie-19141
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3-D 'Ghost In The Shell' Film?
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/684604/3D_Ghost_In_The_Shell_Film.ht
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Wednesday, February 3, 2010 6:31 PM

TECHTREKKER

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Boy that was a tough choice!!! Serenity vs. Enterprise! I love Firefly/Serenity but Star Trek has always been my first love in sci-fi!

I'm glad that Serenity came out on top though. Maybe this will give some producer the idea that WE NEED MORE FIREFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GIVE US ANOTHER MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Thursday, February 4, 2010 7:24 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Joss would have made a very pretty movie if he had a 300 million $$ budget.

I'm just sayin'.



The T.Rex they call JANE!




No doubt. Unfortunately, it likely would not have the same returns.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, February 5, 2010 5:13 PM

MIKEDINMD


I love it. I voted Serenity all the way through.


4051 votes
Congratulations, most people agree. Serenity from Serenity (2005) will go on to the next round.

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