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'Chronicles of Riddick 3' or 'Serenity 2' ?

POSTED BY: TDBROWN
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:30
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Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:28 AM

TDBROWN


Rope of silicon wants to know....

"Would you rather universal make 'Riddick3' or 'Serenity2'?"

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/would-you-rather-universal-make-a
-third-riddick-film-or-serenity-2




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Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:33 AM

OREOISFIREFLY


obviously i'm a browncoat and want a second serenity movie, but i'm also a big fan of the riddick movies as well. so unless things went completely tits up for either one, i'd have to say both.

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Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:37 AM

NAVYSEILS


I'm not entirely sure, but I think I recall Vin Diesel saying that there is already some early work on another Riddick movie going on when he was on Friday night with Jonathan Ross recently. Though to answer the question, I would definitly prefer another Serenity.

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Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:03 AM

TDBROWN


Quote:

Originally posted by Navyseils:
I'm not entirely sure, but I think I recall Vin Diesel saying that there is already some early work on another Riddick movie going on when he was on Friday night with Jonathan Ross recently. Though to answer the question, I would definitly prefer another Serenity.



I think that's what this poll is showing us; Fans want Serenity, while Universal wants Riddick. I wish they'd pay attention to the results of this poll. You can only vote once, and we're trouncing Riddick!

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Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:04 AM

AURAPTOR

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Why is it either or ? Isn't the 'verse big enough for both ?

Clearly, Vin Diesel got a boost w/ the latest box office showing, so any talk of Riddick makes more sense.

But with the success of Chuck, Castle and of course, Chronicles of Sarah Conner....who knows ?




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Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:07 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Yeah, nice to see we're doing so well, but how long as this poll been up?




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Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:15 AM

TDBROWN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, nice to see we're doing so well, but how long as this poll been up?






A couple weeks. Whedonesque posted it, and most of those Serenity votes came when that happened. The more folks become aware of it, the more votes there will be, I suppose.

Personally, my opinion of Universal is that they blame the Fans for Serenity's poor box office, and they feel "Burned". They are afraid to make a S2 because the Sereniverse makes money SLOWLY, and mainly through DVD sales. Most Studios are about the quick profit. You would think that, in hard economic times, they would look for reliable income, steady income. Such, evidently, is not the case.

If I live to be a hundred, I will never understand the Corporate Mind.

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Sunday, April 12, 2009 6:25 AM

GWEK


Why not a crossover? :) Wouldn't Riddick be at home on Serenity? And who wouldn't want to see the Shepherd and the Imam sitting around the table discussing philosophy?

Seriously, though, much as I love PITCH BLACK and think that CoR has some interesting ideas, by the end of the movie, they've largely gutted everything that's really interesting about Riddick from the story. While the director of CoR had big plans for an epic third part to the "legend" of Riddick, I don't know that it'd be very interesting.

Conversely, I know that Joss has the good sense to head back to strong character stuff in another Serenity sequel rather than having them saving the universe and blowing up the Death Star next time.



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Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:57 AM

RIVERDANCER


Okay, seriously? Fan as I am of Vin Diesel, and cool as the character of Riddick can be at times, and definitely was in Pitch Black, I was far from impressed by the first Chronicles of Riddick. It was not a movie that lent itself to being watched over and over, I didn't truly give a damn about any of the characters, and the plot was laughable at best. Who in their right minds who had seen both films would actually prefer Riddick over Serenity???

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Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:34 PM

BYTEMITE


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Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:42 PM

FOLLOWMAL


When I voted in this poll, I immediately voted for Serenity like most of us ( Browncoats ) did.

I also like the Riddick character ( mostly from the first movie ) very much.
I'd be pleased with both of them to tell you the truth.

But with the box office success of Fast and Furious and the announcement that another one has already been greenlit ( yes, they're doing another one! ) I'd say anything with Vin Diesel is going to be looked at more enthusiastically.

As a genre fan, I'm going to be happy we're getting genre stuff.

ETA: I have read too that Vin Diesel has said that production on another Riddick movie is in the works. Script written, etc...it'll be coming.

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Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:51 PM

FOLLOWMAL


Quote:

Originally posted by TDBrown:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, nice to see we're doing so well, but how long as this poll been up?






A couple weeks. Whedonesque posted it, and most of those Serenity votes came when that happened. The more folks become aware of it, the more votes there will be, I suppose.

Personally, my opinion of Universal is that they blame the Fans for Serenity's poor box office, and they feel "Burned". They are afraid to make a S2 because the Sereniverse makes money SLOWLY, and mainly through DVD sales. Most Studios are about the quick profit. You would think that, in hard economic times, they would look for reliable income, steady income. Such, evidently, is not the case.

If I live to be a hundred, I will never understand the Corporate Mind.



Oh, TD...with respect, I'm going to have to gently disagree with you.

I think that Uni may have "counted" on the fans of Joss a bit much to fill seats when Serenity opened and that they were disappointed. Who wouldn't be with the box office that Serenity pulled in? But I don't think they think about "burned" nor blame. I just think they count pennies and there weren't enough and they quit putting good money after bad.

I'm sure they like the "slow" money they've received from continued DVD sales, they've "dipped" into our fandom several times with editions. But I don't think at any point they considered Serenity a paying gig to follow up on after it's initial failure at the box office, regardless of the surety of the fandom ( they counted on that once and look what it got them ) or the DVD sales.

That's not to say that someone somewhere might not hit upon an idea ( think BSG re-working ) that will make FF/S a household name, nothing is impossible.

But the Uni corporate minds are easy to read. No money = no more. Money = more. Simple as that.

I wish as fervently as you do for more. Although I've come to be very contented with what we have and I love the new stuff everyone is doing.

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Sunday, April 12, 2009 1:09 PM

TDBROWN


There's nothing wrong with being disagreed with, especially when it's gently done .

Point taken, FM, and generally agrreed with.

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Sunday, April 12, 2009 1:47 PM

RIPWASH


I voted, but didn't see results.

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Sunday, April 12, 2009 1:56 PM

TDBROWN


As of today, the vote is running about 10 to 1 for Serenity 2.

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Sunday, April 12, 2009 2:34 PM

RALLEM


Serenity 2 please, but please give it a more marketable name.



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Sunday, April 12, 2009 2:53 PM

ELGRILLO


Serenity 2 obviously. As far as Universal not being happy with the Box office, often they don't make the money from the Box office take, it's from the DVD sales, from what I hear; much of the box office goes to paying actors and so on. Besides, the DVD sales for Serenity must have been pretty good, they released the CE right? Maybe I'm talking gibberish :)

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Sunday, April 12, 2009 6:36 PM

ORPHEUS


Chronicles of Riddick 3? THREE?

I must've missed part two.

Select to view spoiler:


I know, I know, CoR counts as part two. Still...



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Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:47 PM

FILLYGIRL

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Tuff choice, but "Serenity 2" please.

I love Riddick, I have the DVD's,...IMHO 'Chronicles'was weak, and I thought the story was done with that one. I don't know the Riddick world but I think "Serenity" has many more stories than Riddick.


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Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:31 PM

CALHOUN


Bring'em both on!

I'm forever keen for more Jossy goodness but I loved Chronicles of Riddick! and I say "STFU" to all the wankers who pooh-pooh it...

Make them both!

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Monday, April 13, 2009 2:05 AM

RIPWASH


I guess my main question is if this is an actual question Universial is pondering? Is this something the folks at Ropesofsilcone.com got wind of from someone of merit at the studio? If so, let the letter writting campaign begin!

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Monday, April 13, 2009 2:39 AM

SAFEAT2ND


Quote:

Originally posted by GWEK:
Seriously, though, much as I love PITCH BLACK and think that CoR has some interesting ideas, by the end of the movie, they've largely gutted everything that's really interesting about Riddick from the story. While the director of CoR had big plans for an epic third part to the "legend" of Riddick, I don't know that it'd be very interesting.


I agree TOTALLY!! They were two totally different movies. In CoR they kinda got away from what I found insteresting in PB.

I'd say Serenity 2 hands down. It would be a harder choice if they were making another CoR more in the spirit of PB. But still, Serenity 2.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 2:42 AM

TDBROWN


Quote:

Originally posted by RIPWash:
I guess my main question is if this is an actual question Universial is pondering? Is this something the folks at Ropesofsilcone.com got wind of from someone of merit at the studio? If so, let the letter writting campaign begin!



Don't rightly know if that's the case, but dropping a "More Serenity Please" note or e-mail with Uni is never a bad idea.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 4:19 AM

FREELANCERTEX


there was always supposed to be a Riddick 3, because dave twohy set out to make a trilogy before pitch black was even made, and after the cliffhanger in riddick 2, i'd really like to see how that chronicle is resolved.

as for a second serenity, i was happy with the way the first one turned out, and i honestly think a second one would ruin that. it was one of those films where you watch it and you're like, 'wow, that was awesome. just as is.' and if they make another i really feel it would detract from that.


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Monday, April 13, 2009 5:51 AM

FOLLOWMAL


Quote:

Originally posted by ElGrillo:
Serenity 2 obviously. As far as Universal not being happy with the Box office, often they don't make the money from the Box office take, it's from the DVD sales, from what I hear; much of the box office goes to paying actors and so on. Besides, the DVD sales for Serenity must have been pretty good, they released the CE right? Maybe I'm talking gibberish :)

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From observing many discussions here and at Whedonesque- I gather that expecting big money from the box office take IS the preferred way of making money. No big box office take...not much chance of a sequel. Plain and simple.

DVD sales are good and Serenity and Firefly have made a passel of money for Uni and Fox. But...they want box office- big box office...it's what they strive for always. Vin Diesel is a very bankable star right now...they're already planning a CoR followup.
I'd guess that 5 years hence, Serenity isn't even on the list.

They released the CE to make money off a reliable fandom. Smart move. Didn't gain us a sequel.

Quote:

Originally posted by FillyGirl:

Tuff choice, but "Serenity 2" please.

I love Riddick, I have the DVD's,...IMHO 'Chronicles'was weak, and I thought the story was done with that one. I don't know the Riddick world but I think "Serenity" has many more stories than Riddick.



I think Serenity has many more stories in it. Even with characters besides the core crew we love so much. Fanfic abounds with continued stories. Look at www.stillflying.net. More of the good stuff there.

Also there is the fandom film being made. They've begun shooting on it. Very shiny indeed!
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Quote:

Originally posted by RipWash:
I guess my main question is if this is an actual question Universial is pondering? Is this something the folks at Ropesofsilcone.com got wind of from someone of merit at the studio? If so, let the letter writting campaign begin!



Quote:

Originally posted by TDBrown:
Don't rightly know if that's the case, but dropping a "More Serenity Please" note or e-mail with Uni is never a bad idea.



Agreed. A kind polite note from a fan saying I liked this, please make more is never a bad thing, it's a good thing.

But - I'd bet this is not an actual thing Uni is pondering. The ropesofsilicon folks are savvy enough to run a poll that will get FF/S/Whedon fans to vote and hit their site and also to get Riddick film fans to hit the site and vote. Vin Diesel fans are hyper aware I'd bet right now and the online response of Browncoats is legendary.
Fun poll, lots of attention...win/win.

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeLancerTex:

there was always supposed to be a Riddick 3, because dave twohy set out to make a trilogy before pitch black was even made, and after the cliffhanger in riddick 2, i'd really like to see how that chronicle is resolved.

as for a second serenity, i was happy with the way the first one turned out, and i honestly think a second one would ruin that. it was one of those films where you watch it and you're like, 'wow, that was awesome. just as is.' and if they make another i really feel it would detract from that.



Yeah...I'd like to see what happens next too. Riddick is a compelling character. I hope they make it gritty and more in the now as Pitch Black was. I'd like that better.

I can always see more Serenity. LOL
Even though I was satisfied with the first one.

I'd like to see it be a caper movie though. Something with action, trademark Whedon/Fillion funny and less danger to the crew. I wish the first one had been a caper movie. I think it would have done better. But it's Joss' story and I'm just glad I got to enjoy it.



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Monday, April 13, 2009 6:38 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:
there was always supposed to be a Riddick 3, because dave twohy set out to make a trilogy before pitch black was even made, and after the cliffhanger in riddick 2, i'd really like to see how that chronicle is resolved.





While it's true he had planned a third Riddick film that would have picked up from CoR, that's not the movie they're making now. That one would have been another massive budget affair, like CoR, but since it kinda tanked, the new Riddick movie is a much smaller scale thing, and reportedly involves Riddick alone, fighting monsters again.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 7:04 AM

L0NG5H0T


As much as I enjoy Riddick, naturally I would prefer to have Serenity 2, hands down.

As far as the question of Universal not wanting to pony up for another theatrical release, I don't see why they don't try a Serenity mini-series on Sci-Fi with an immediate follow up on DVD, like BSG: Razor. It would keep the costs down and generate income in Serenity's strongest area

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Monday, April 13, 2009 7:11 AM

STORYMARK


The problem with all the talk of a cheaper DTV movie or mini-series is - the upfront costs are essentially the same. Sets would still need to be built, actors have to be paid, ect. Unless we want a Serenity built from cardboard, those are going to be hurdles either way.

They'd save money in marketing, and probably no-name supporting characters, but otherwise, the costs would be simmilar.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 8:49 AM

ZEROKIRYU


Okay, did I miss a movie? Because I don't ever recall there being a second CoR movie. As for more, I'd definitely welcome it, as I like the Riddick character.

As for which whould I prefer, Serenity 2, no doubt. I didn't even have to think about that.
Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:
as for a second serenity, i was happy with the way the first one turned out, and i honestly think a second one would ruin that. it was one of those films where you watch it and you're like, 'wow, that was awesome. just as is.' and if they make another i really feel it would detract from that.


O.o
So, you're saying you don't want more? Wow...

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Monday, April 13, 2009 8:53 AM

FREELANCERTEX


Pitch Black was the first Riddick movie, Chronicles of Riddick was the second ;)

i never said i didn't want more, i just don't think a second film would be a good idea. Miniseries, absolutely, resurrection of the original series, fuck yes, but i'm just not sure about the film venue.
That, and Riddick needs to be concluded. it's way too fuckin long overdue. At least with Serenity we had some closure lol.

Quote:

Originally posted by Longshot: I don't see why they don't try a Serenity mini-series on Sci-Fi with an immediate follow up on DVD

Absofuckinglutely.


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Monday, April 13, 2009 9:08 AM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:
Pitch Black was the first Riddick movie, Chronicles of Riddick was the second ;)


No, just because it has the same character doesn't make it part one. If it was it would've been called Chronicles of Riddick, and the next one would be part 2.

Quote:

i never said i didn't want more, i just don't think a second film would be a good idea. Miniseries, absolutely, resurrection of the original series, fuck yes, but i'm just not sure about the film venue.
That, and Riddick needs to be concluded. it's way too fuckin long overdue. At least with Serenity we had some closure lol.


If we get anything more it'd most likely be a movie, not a miniseries or a new season. Just wouldn't be viable.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 9:08 AM

ZEROKIRYU


Damn, dirty double post!

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Monday, April 13, 2009 9:26 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by zerokiryu:

No, just because it has the same character doesn't make it part one. If it was it would've been called Chronicles of Riddick, and the next one would be part 2.


The second one progressed from the first one, you're getting caught in the minutia.


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Monday, April 13, 2009 9:43 AM

FREELANCERTEX


lolz thanks chris

Quote:

Originally posted by ZeroKiryu: No, just because it has the same character doesn't make it part one. If it was it would've been called Chronicles of Riddick, and the next one would be part 2.

ok dude, i'll concede. on my Pitch Black DVD case u know what it says? it says "Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black" verbatim. happy? and yes, the second one did progress from the first so technically theyre within the same series.


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Monday, April 13, 2009 9:49 AM

CHRISISALL


On mine it says:
"The Chronicles of Riddick
PITCH BLACK

The Chronicles of Riddick
DARK FURY

The Chronicles of Riddick
RIDDICK"




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Monday, April 13, 2009 9:51 AM

FREELANCERTEX


ugh, dude, dark fury doesnt count ><;; least it shouldnt lol


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Monday, April 13, 2009 9:53 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
the new Riddick movie is a much smaller scale thing

GOOD! Less is more with Riddick.


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Monday, April 13, 2009 9:56 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:
ugh, dude, dark fury doesnt count ><;; least it shouldnt lol


It's a valid part of the story if you like animation, and can easily be skipped if you don't.

Either way, it was included on the DVD I got at Target for $13, so I didn't mind.


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Monday, April 13, 2009 10:04 AM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:
Quote:

Originally posted by ZeroKiryu: No, just because it has the same character doesn't make it part one. If it was it would've been called Chronicles of Riddick, and the next one would be part 2.

ok dude, i'll concede. on my Pitch Black DVD case u know what it says? it says "Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black" verbatim. happy? and yes, the second one did progress from the first so technically theyre within the same series.


That would be the rerelease case, which they did when CoR came out.
This one:


Which is the original cover, and the one I have, has no mention of Riddick on it except for a small picture of him on the back. They don't even refer to him by name, just "a vicious convict".

Same series, yes. Sequel? No.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 10:07 AM

SLINGSHOTTER


I've read something recently on this, I don't remember exactly where but it was an interview with Vin Diesel by one of the gillions of hollywood insider type web mags. The interview was within the last two to three weeks. The interview had something to do with the recent (April 7th) release of the Riddick video game "Assault on Dark Athena."

I belive Diesel said David Twohy was just putting the finishing touches on the scripts for two movies and they were hoping to sell them and start pre-production in 2010. During an earlier interview Twohy said these productions probably wouldn't be as big as Chronicles of Riddick and wouldn't be done by Universal.

Actually in my opinion these two projects (albeit one is ficticious at this point) are good comparisons to make. I believe COR and Serenity were disappointments in domestic box office sales, better than expected internationally and on DVD, and both involve fan bases that kind of took off. Firefly/ Serenity on one hand, and the Riddick franchise with video games and such on the other. Lots of untapped potential in my opinion.

As for what I would rather see???? Serenity 2 of course.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Either way, it was included on the DVD I got at Target for $13, so I didn't mind.


Hey me too!! At that price, it's a lot easier to 'not mind'

Hell while we're on this topic, Starship Troopers got a #3 and it was WAYYYY worse and the last two made wayyy less money than either Riddick in his multiple incarnations, or Serenity.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 10:11 AM

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chris: yeah wasnt a huge fan of the way the animation looked in the weird little sneak peeks they had on the riddick dvd (least i think thats where i saw it, might've been the pitch black dvd) so i just skipped it. ><;;


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Monday, April 13, 2009 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by zerokiryu:

Same series, yes. Sequel? No.



Empire Strikes Back was made after Star Wars.
Same series, yes. Sequel? No.


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Monday, April 13, 2009 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by safeat2nd:

Hell while we're on this topic, Starship Troopers got a #3 and it was WAYYYY worse and the last two made wayyy less money than either Riddick in his multiple incarnations, or Serenity.




Those last two also cost FAAAAR less to make than CoR or Serenity.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 11:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by zerokiryu:

Same series, yes. Sequel? No.



Empire Strikes Back was made after Star Wars.
Same series, yes. Sequel? No.


The laughing Chrisisall



And "A New Hope" isn't really part of the title, because they added it later.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
The problem with all the talk of a cheaper DTV movie or mini-series is - the upfront costs are essentially the same. Sets would still need to be built, actors have to be paid, ect. Unless we want a Serenity built from cardboard, those are going to be hurdles either way.

They'd save money in marketing, and probably no-name supporting characters, but otherwise, the costs would be similar.

Marketing and distribution, which could be a substantial savings, from what I hear. Near as I can tell, Serenity made more $ in DVD sales than box office returns.

'sides Sci-Fi must have some extra cash lying around since BSG is mostly over ;)

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Monday, April 13, 2009 12:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by L0ng5h0t:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
The problem with all the talk of a cheaper DTV movie or mini-series is - the upfront costs are essentially the same. Sets would still need to be built, actors have to be paid, ect. Unless we want a Serenity built from cardboard, those are going to be hurdles either way.

They'd save money in marketing, and probably no-name supporting characters, but otherwise, the costs would be similar.

Marketing and distribution, which could be a substantial savings, from what I hear. Near as I can tell, Serenity made more $ in DVD sales than box office returns.

'sides Sci-Fi must have some extra cash lying around since BSG is mostly over ;)



True, but who knows to what degree the marketing and distribution would save them. Back when Serenity came out, the average marketing and distribution cost was around $40 mil for a Hollywood movie (oddly, folks around here were after my head for pointing this out at the time). Neither were factored into the $30 million budget for Serenity, so you're still looking at a sizeable upfront cost.

And SyFy is more than likely putting their BSG money into the spin-off, so it's claimed.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 2:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by L0ng5h0t:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
The problem with all the talk of a cheaper DTV movie or mini-series is - the upfront costs are essentially the same. Sets would still need to be built, actors have to be paid, ect. Unless we want a Serenity built from cardboard, those are going to be hurdles either way.

They'd save money in marketing, and probably no-name supporting characters, but otherwise, the costs would be similar.

Marketing and distribution, which could be a substantial savings, from what I hear. Near as I can tell, Serenity made more $ in DVD sales than box office returns.

'sides Sci-Fi must have some extra cash lying around since BSG is mostly over ;)



True, but who knows to what degree the marketing and distribution would save them. Back when Serenity came out, the average marketing and distribution cost was around $40 mil for a Hollywood movie (oddly, folks around here were after my head for pointing this out at the time). Neither were factored into the $30 million budget for Serenity, so you're still looking at a sizeable upfront cost.

And SyFy is more than likely putting their BSG money into the spin-off, so it's claimed.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



It's been my experience that the whole marketing/distribution costs thing really don't enter into the discussion until a production has been established. You don't really know what you have until you see a few dailies of an actual film being shot. If the suits like what they see, then marketing dollars and distribution contracts aren't too big of an issue. If they don't like where the production is headed... well, look out.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 5:26 PM

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After reading all this, and understanding that polls are subject to the whims of voters; I have to say this.
In terms of vote popularity, numbers speak for themselves.
Now it's up to us as to who wants to see more of this. Everyone, convert one person. Have that one person convert another, and so on. Build up the numbers, have them vote again.
See if that doesn't perk them up a bit. Who knows?..it just might.

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Monday, April 13, 2009 9:06 PM

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Pitch Black was Shakespeare compared to CoR. David Twohy did a much better job of keeping Vin under control in PB than in CoR. What Vin tends to forget is that less is more.

Radha Mitchell, for me, made PB very enjoyable because she flat out kicked ass in that movie. I imagine that CoR was more the brainchild of some studio suit who thought that 'blowing things up real good' will put butts in the seats at the theatres. As they tend to forget, that doesn't always work.
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