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Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:21 PM

CHRISISALL


Oh man, this ROCKS!!!
Mega thanks for the recommendation! It IS the best ever. Semi-sequel to the Raimi flick, but SO much more depth... or action... something...
Maybe it's the music...


The Mal-like Chrisisall


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Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:04 PM

CLJOHNSTON108


Glad you're enjoying it!

There're a couple of quibbles I have, however, but I'll wait and see if you can spot 'em before I point 'em out. Actually, I'll just leave you a couple of hints:

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Tuesday, April 3, 2012 4:24 PM

ANTHONYT

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Quote:

they've got him making a web-shooter instead of having the spider-silk come out of his wrists somehow...


Hello Lili,

This change (having him NOT invent the web shooters) was a positive one for the sake of believability, to me.

Otherwise I have to believe that Peter Parker not only acquired many spider-powers except that one from a spider bite...

But I also have to believe he is a genius that the chem engineers at Dupont would envy...

Rather than just a bright young man.

I found the trilogy Parker the more believable of the two.

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Wednesday, April 4, 2012 4:04 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello Lili,

This change (having him NOT invent the web shooters) was a positive one for the sake of believability, to me.

Otherwise I have to believe that Peter Parker not only acquired many spider-powers except that one from a spider bite...

But I also have to believe he is a genius that the chem engineers at Dupont would envy...

Rather than just a bright young man.

I found the trilogy Parker the more believable of the two.

--Anthony



Pretty sure that in some of the incarnations of spider-man that the mythology states that he gained the knowledge of how to chemically create the webbing because of the spider bite. So, it's still kind of one of his super powers.

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Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:15 AM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Different strokes, I guess, but I think a web shooter is more believable than a spontaneous orifice on the wrists that can projectile-vomit spidersilk and then fade from view until it needs to projectile-vomit more silk. I believe that even spiders don't quite have that.


Facts are stubborn things.

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Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:26 AM

STORYMARK


Ive always found the mechanical web shooters pretty far fetched - even for a comic. Yeah, he's a science wiz - but one that miraculously comes up with this magical chemical solution that just happens to align perfectly with his new powers, that can do damned near anything he needs, but disolves into nothing as soon as he's done - PLUS he invents the ultra-advanced shooters themselves, which manage to have several functions which again align perfectly with his new powers....

And then never invents anything again - ever.

Right.

I thought making them organic - even if biologically misplaced, made a whole hell of a lot more sense in context, and was far more efficient story-wise.

Spoon!

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Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:31 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello Lili,

This change (having him NOT invent the web shooters) was a positive one for the sake of believability, to me.

Otherwise I have to believe that Peter Parker not only acquired many spider-powers except that one from a spider bite...

But I also have to believe he is a genius that the chem engineers at Dupont would envy...

Rather than just a bright young man.

I found the trilogy Parker the more believable of the two.

--Anthony



Pretty sure that in some of the incarnations of spider-man that the mythology states that he gained the knowledge of how to chemically create the webbing because of the spider bite. So, it's still kind of one of his super powers.



That was the rationelle used in the 90's cartoon, but hasn't been used in any other version.

Spoon!

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Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:57 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Ive always found the mechanical web shooters pretty far fetched - even for a comic. Yeah, he's a science wiz - but one that miraculously comes up with this magical chemical solution that just happens to align perfectly with his new powers, that can do damned near anything he needs, but disolves into nothing as soon as he's done - PLUS he invents the ultra-advanced shooters themselves, which manage to have several functions which again align perfectly with his new powers....

And then never invents anything again - ever.

Right.

I thought making them organic - even if biologically misplaced, made a whole hell of a lot more sense in context, and was far more efficient story-wise.

Spoon!


I just like it better because then you don't have the "when we feel like it we'll make spider-man run out of webbing to add some drama" junk. It only seemed to become an issue when spider-man was doing something boring.

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Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:58 AM

STORYMARK


And just since this thread has nothing but on-set pics (which almost always look terrible) - here's a look at the suit, as it will appear on-screen (including mechanical web shooters):



Spoon!

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Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:25 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Ive always found the mechanical web shooters pretty far fetched - even for a comic. Yeah, he's a science wiz - but one that miraculously comes up with this magical chemical solution that just happens to align perfectly with his new powers, that can do damned near anything he needs, but disolves into nothing as soon as he's done - PLUS he invents the ultra-advanced shooters themselves, which manage to have several functions which again align perfectly with his new powers....

And then never invents anything again - ever.

Right.

I thought making them organic - even if biologically misplaced, made a whole hell of a lot more sense in context, and was far more efficient story-wise.

Spoon!


I just like it better because then you don't have the "when we feel like it we'll make spider-man run out of webbing to add some drama" junk. It only seemed to become an issue when spider-man was doing something boring.



That is the one aspect about the mechanical shooters that I liked - that they could run out.

Granted, the device became a crutch just to add false drama, as you noted. But I do like the idea that Spidey has to use an element of strategy - he can't just waste webbing, and has to choose his applications, and has to pay a price if he misjudges - adding legit tension.

But yeah, all in all - I like the organics better.

Spoon!

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Friday, April 6, 2012 4:18 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


My problem with the organic shooters was one of mass: In Spider-Man 2, when he saved the runaway subway train, it seemed like he expended several times his own body weight in webbing!
In the 90s TV version of The Flash, they made a big point of Barry Allen's heightened metabolism, which required him to eat huge amounts of food whenever he over-exerted himself.
The Raimi Spidey never addressed that issue. I mean, Peter's basically ejaculating from his wrists, so there has to be a limit on how much he can shoot.

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Friday, April 6, 2012 5:26 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
My problem with the organic shooters was one of mass: In Spider-Man 2, when he saved the runaway subway train, it seemed like he expended several times his own body weight in webbing!
In the 90s TV version of The Flash, they made a big point of Barry Allen's heightened metabolism, which required him to eat huge amounts of food whenever he over-exerted himself.
The Raimi Spidey never addressed that issue. I mean, Peter's basically ejaculating from his wrists, so there has to be a limit on how much he can shoot.


But tons of webbing coming out of tiny little canisters makes sense? If it's coming from inside him for all we know he's got a second stomach sized organ just storing the chemicals to shoot web. It could be much bigger than the tiny little canisters in the mechanical web shooters.

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Friday, April 6, 2012 1:57 PM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
But tons of webbing coming out of tiny little canisters makes sense?


No, neither of them make a lick o' sense when you try to actually explain them, but that's the cool thing about comic books, huh!

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Sunday, April 8, 2012 3:28 PM

ANTHONYT

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Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
But tons of webbing coming out of tiny little canisters makes sense?


No, neither of them make a lick o' sense when you try to actually explain them, but that's the cool thing about comic books, huh!



Hello,

In the absence of good sense, I usually embrace the explanations that seem least ludicrous. Since I already have to embrace implausible biological mutations due to a spider bite, I see no need to compound that with additional implausible scientific devices. If one suspension of disbelief covers both, it's the better route for me.

-Anthony



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Monday, April 9, 2012 4:22 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
My problem with the organic shooters was one of mass: In Spider-Man 2, when he saved the runaway subway train, it seemed like he expended several times his own body weight in webbing!



See, that to me is an even better reason to have organic webshooters. If they're organic - at least there is some sort of conceivable explaination - that his body just produces it quickly. If they're mechanical - he'd need a backpack full of goo to make sense of such events.

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Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:59 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Definitely not a fan of the costume. It reminds me of the live action show from the 70s. Not really feeling this flick at all.

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Friday, April 13, 2012 4:11 PM

ANTHONYT

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Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Definitely not a fan of the costume. It reminds me of the live action show from the 70s. Not really feeling this flick at all.

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Hello,



It might be a little bit better than the 70's one.

--Anthony



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Friday, April 13, 2012 6:47 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Definitely not a fan of the costume. It reminds me of the live action show from the 70s. Not really feeling this flick at all.

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Hello,



It might be a little bit better than the 70's one.

--Anthony



Was gonna post a pic myself. Yeah.... waaaaay closer to the Raimi suit than the 70's one.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Sunday, May 6, 2012 6:27 PM

PHOENIXROSE

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Quote:

Originally posted by LiLi:
...spontaneous orifice on the wrists...




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Monday, May 7, 2012 5:03 AM

STORYMARK


I saw an arachnid specialist recently expmain that a spinner under his tongue would actually be the most accurate.

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