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Sony Rebooting Spider-Man in 2012!

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Monday, January 11, 2010 4:02 PM

CREVANREAVER


Apparently Spider-Man is going to get the Batman Begins treatment.

Thanks for the memories Toby.

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Peter Parker is going back to high school when the next Spider-Man hits theaters in the summer of 2012.

Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios announced today they are moving forward with a film based on a script by James Vanderbilt that focuses on a teenager grappling with both contemporary human problems and amazing super-human crises.

The new chapter in the "Spider-Man" franchise produced by Columbia, Marvel Studios and Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin, will have a new cast and filmmaking team. Spider-Man 4 was to have been released in 2011, but had not yet gone into production.

"A decade ago we set out on this journey with Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire and together we made three 'Spider-Man' films that set a new bar for the genre. When we began, no one ever imagined that we would make history at the box-office and now we have a rare opportunity to make history once again with this franchise. Peter Parker as an ordinary young adult grappling with extraordinary powers has always been the foundation that has made this character so timeless and compelling for generations of fans. We're very excited about the creative possibilities that come from returning to Peter's roots and we look forward to working once again with Marvel Studios, Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin on this new beginning," said Amy Pascal, co-chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment.

"Working on the 'Spider-Man' movies was the experience of a lifetime for me. While we were looking forward to doing a fourth one together, the studio and Marvel have a unique opportunity to take the franchise in a new direction, and I know they will do a terrific job," said Sam Raimi.

"We have had a once-in-a-lifetime collaboration and friendship with Sam and Tobey and they have given us their best for the better part of the last decade. This is a bittersweet moment for us because while it is hard to imagine Spider-Man in anyone else's hands, I know that this was a day that was inevitable," said Matt Tolmach, president of Columbia Pictures, who has served as the studio's chief production executive since the beginning of the franchise. "Now everything begins anew, and that's got us all tremendously excited about what comes next. Under the continuing supervision of Avi and Laura, we have a clear vision for the future of Spider-Man and can't wait to share this exciting new direction with audiences in 2012."

"'Spider-Man' will always be an important franchise for Sony Pictures and a fresh start like this is a responsibility that we all take very seriously," said Michael Lynton, Chairman and CEO of Sony Pictures. "We have always believed that story comes first and story guides the direction of these films and as we move onto the next chapter, we will stay true to that principle and will do so with the highest respect for the source material and the fans and moviegoers who deserve nothing but the best when it comes to bringing these stories and characters to life on the big screen."

The studio will have more news about Spider-Man in 2012 in the coming weeks as it prepares for production of the film.


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Monday, January 11, 2010 4:35 PM

OPPYH



Good job Sony. Have to keep with the "Twilight" crowd.

WHY REBOOT?

I'm done with the Spidey films.

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Monday, January 11, 2010 4:37 PM

CHRISISALL


While I love the three MaGuire/Raimi flicks, I think it makes sense to keep it fresh.


The web-slinging Chrisisall

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Monday, January 11, 2010 4:41 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by OPPYH:

WHY REBOOT?


Really, Tobey is looking, like, almost 30 now. Parker is like Kal-El, eternally 20-something.
I'm okay with each actor getting a decade or so to do it. It's the way of things.
But only DOWNEY, JR is Stark!!! Recast him, & I'm out.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, January 11, 2010 5:25 PM

OPPYH


From Hollywood Insider:

"This time around, the series will place Peter Parker in a more contemporary setting, as a teenager battling today’s issues. The decision to go with an origin story stemmed from Sony developing two Spidey projects simultaneously. According to studio insiders, Sony was working on both Raimi’s Spider-Man 4 and the new origin story from James Vanderbilt, who wrote Zodiac. The original plan was to keep the Spider-Man gang together for one last film in 2011 before rebooting the series in 2012. When it became clear that Raimi would not be able to make the summer 2011 release date planned for Spider-Man 4, the studio opted to scrap Spider-Man 4 altogether, and focus solely on the series reboot."



Another F___NG origin Story? No Thasnk you. I think I have seen the origin of Spidey about 8 gazillion times. I'll be bored to tears, no matter what kind new twist we get.

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Monday, January 11, 2010 5:31 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Another F___NG origin Story? No Thank you. I think I have seen the origin of Spidey about 8 gazillion times. I'll be bored to tears, no matter what kind new twist we get.

Personally, I'll have nothing to do with it.
UNLESS they get the costume RIGHT this time:



The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, January 11, 2010 6:02 PM

STORYMARK


Blech.


Recast, sure. I wouldn't mind new folks in the lead. But a full reboot? Shit. Back to High School.... probably another origin. No pay-off to 3 films worth of set-up for the Lizard.

Unless they get someone damned good to make it... I've now lost interest.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, January 11, 2010 6:12 PM

CHRISISALL


Ahh, they effed Spidey with the no Gwen thing, the hi-tech suit thing, the nice Ock thing, the Gwen back in the wrong arc thing, the killing Harry thing... geeze, if they just get the gorram costume right next time, I'll be happy.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:26 AM

LWAVES


Love the first two movies, detest the turd...I mean third (except for a watchable fan-edited version). And I never read the comics as a kid (it was Batman for me with a little Superman for good measure) so I don't have the same 'characters in wrong arc' problem that some do and other changes that were made in the movies.
But to reboot is wrong. It's too early. Tobey Maguire made the role his with a great set of performances but I can agree with him being too old now and a recast would be good to keep it fresher. But the franchise is just too close to require a restart, they should continue the story that they started.

I guess their mind is made up though but I can't see me being there with them.



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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:13 AM

ZEEK


I'm so glad they're rebooting. I really hope they stick closer to the stories of the comics. I mean the rumors about the vulturess in spidey 4 were so disturbing.

Maybe this time they can make the green goblin a little more menacing and do venom justice. I also hope they speed up the pace of making the movies. Let's face it spidey is pretty much a lock at the box office. I say film them back to back and start releasing films every 2 years. There is just so much to cover in the spidey world.

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:35 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Ahh, they effed Spidey with the no Gwen thing, the hi-tech suit thing, the nice Ock thing, the Gwen back in the wrong arc thing, the killing Harry thing... geeze, if they just get the gorram costume right next time, I'll be happy.


The laughing Chrisisall



The costume is your problem? Seriously? That's about the shallowest criteria....

And Ock in 2 was FAR more interesting than the comic character ever was.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:40 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
I'm so glad they're rebooting. I really hope they stick closer to the stories of the comics. I mean the rumors about the vulturess in spidey 4 were so disturbing.

Maybe this time they can make the green goblin a little more menacing and do venom justice. I also hope they speed up the pace of making the movies. Let's face it spidey is pretty much a lock at the box office. I say film them back to back and start releasing films every 2 years. There is just so much to cover in the spidey world.



Good luck with that. Superficial changes aside - Raimi was a big Spidey fan, and was the one fighting to keep it close to the comics. He wanted to use Gwen in the first, the studio said no. The studio forced him to shoehorn Venom into 3 because he's popular. The reason Raimi walked on this one was because the studio wouldn't let him use villains from the comic.

Now, they're free to hire a company man that'll do whatever the studio wants without a fight. Don't hold your breath for stories closer to the comic - the Execs don't have a clue what the comic stories are, and could care less.

If you think they're going to make slavishly faithful adaptations.... you are naive at best. You are far more likely to get the opposite of what you are asking for. Enjoy.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:51 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Raimi was a big Spidey fan, and was the one fighting to keep it close to the comics. He wanted to use Gwen in the first, the studio said no. The studio forced him to shoehorn Venom into 3 because he's popular.

Overpaid self-important studio execs...!@&@!!
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If you think they're going to make slavishly faithful adaptations.... you are naive at best. You are far more likely to get the opposite of what you are asking for. Enjoy.


Okay, no breath-holding, then.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:07 AM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:


Good luck with that. Superficial changes aside - Raimi was a big Spidey fan, and was the one fighting to keep it close to the comics.



Exactly. This "reboot" will probably be closer to "Twilight" than Spiderman. You can expect even the super villains to be teenagers also. Laugh at me now, cry when it becomes a reality.

The sad thing is Spidey 4 was shaping up nicely.

Apparently John Malkovich was strongly considered as the role of the Vulture. And Raimi would have had complete creative control concerning the story.

Seriously, this is bad, bad news in the Super hero movie department.

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:10 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by OPPYH:

Apparently John Malkovich was strongly considered as the role of the Vulture. And Raimi would have had complete creative control concerning the story.


NOW I'm sad.
Oh well. I still have CHUCK.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:12 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Good luck with that. Superficial changes aside - Raimi was a big Spidey fan, and was the one fighting to keep it close to the comics. He wanted to use Gwen in the first, the studio said no. The studio forced him to shoehorn Venom into 3 because he's popular. The reason Raimi walked on this one was because the studio wouldn't let him use villains from the comic.

Now, they're free to hire a company man that'll do whatever the studio wants without a fight. Don't hold your breath for stories closer to the comic - the Execs don't have a clue what the comic stories are, and could care less.

If you think they're going to make slavishly faithful adaptations.... you are naive at best. You are far more likely to get the opposite of what you are asking for. Enjoy.


Unless you work for Sony Studios how do you know what went on behind the scenes? I don't put much stock in the he said she said rumors. Raimi stamped his name on all three movies. If he didn't like them he should have walked.

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:17 AM

LWAVES


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
I'm so glad they're rebooting. I really hope they stick closer to the stories of the comics. I mean the rumors about the vulturess in spidey 4 were so disturbing.

Maybe this time they can make the green goblin a little more menacing and do venom justice. I also hope they speed up the pace of making the movies. Let's face it spidey is pretty much a lock at the box office. I say film them back to back and start releasing films every 2 years. There is just so much to cover in the spidey world.



Good luck with that. Superficial changes aside - Raimi was a big Spidey fan, and was the one fighting to keep it close to the comics. He wanted to use Gwen in the first, the studio said no. The studio forced him to shoehorn Venom into 3 because he's popular. The reason Raimi walked on this one was because the studio wouldn't let him use villains from the comic.

Now, they're free to hire a company man that'll do whatever the studio wants without a fight. Don't hold your breath for stories closer to the comic - the Execs don't have a clue what the comic stories are, and could care less.

If you think they're going to make slavishly faithful adaptations.... you are naive at best. You are far more likely to get the opposite of what you are asking for. Enjoy.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



I agree completely with this.
It wouldn't surprise me if they brought characters in purely for the purpose of creating a spin-off line of cheaply made movies that will sell because of the characters involved.

Maybe the world will end in 2012 after all.



"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:26 AM

OPPYH

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:48 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by OPPYH:


The sad thing is Spidey 4 was shaping up nicely.

Apparently John Malkovich was strongly considered as the role of the Vulture. And Raimi would have had complete creative control concerning the story.




i don't know about "nicely". yYs, Malcovich was up for The Vulture (and had been fitted for a costume)- but that's about the only accurate thing here.

For one - Raimi didn't have control - that's a big reason he walked. Sony did not want him using the Vulture, or his second choice, The Lizard. The script was a mess (this according to about everyone involved), and focused on Peter and MJ having a baby.


"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:51 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Good luck with that. Superficial changes aside - Raimi was a big Spidey fan, and was the one fighting to keep it close to the comics. He wanted to use Gwen in the first, the studio said no. The studio forced him to shoehorn Venom into 3 because he's popular. The reason Raimi walked on this one was because the studio wouldn't let him use villains from the comic.

Now, they're free to hire a company man that'll do whatever the studio wants without a fight. Don't hold your breath for stories closer to the comic - the Execs don't have a clue what the comic stories are, and could care less.

If you think they're going to make slavishly faithful adaptations.... you are naive at best. You are far more likely to get the opposite of what you are asking for. Enjoy.


Unless you work for Sony Studios how do you know what went on behind the scenes? I don't put much stock in the he said she said rumors. Raimi stamped his name on all three movies. If he didn't like them he should have walked.



Uh, I read. this isn't he said/she said - it's "everybody says". The plug being pulled is the only new part of the story - the rest has been in the industry trades and press for the last 3 months.

And you last comment about him just walking away - shows a distinct lack of understanding concerning how the industry works.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:59 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
And you last comment about him just walking away - shows a distinct lack of understanding concerning how the industry works.


Indeed. It also doesn't matter. If he's got integrity then he'll make a good movie or walk. Leaving him either liking the movies he made or without integrity. Either choice doesn't paint him in such a great light.

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:03 AM

STORYMARK


Yeah.... that's how it works..... in imaginationland. Oy.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:04 AM

WHODIED


The Vulturess?! Anne Hathaway, to this day, OWNS the top slot on my elevator list, (even after Get Smart, egad,) so I'm forced to be glad that that bird don't fly. But the idea that The Lizard isn't a good enough villain is preposterous! Yo! Idiots at Sony! Phone home re: Godzilla!

An absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary reboot of high school aged Peter Parker wouldn't be so bad if they could work the time line laid down by Brian Michael Bendis in the "Ultimate Spider-man" run. I think he distilled the essential elements of the Web Crawlers myth with deft homage.

Sure, sure, and Petey'll be nervous and sarcastic too, not all *sparkley* and ever so (ever so?) EVER so emo...

Spider-man No More, indeed.



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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:49 PM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

i don't know about "nicely". yYs, Malcovich was up for The Vulture (and had been fitted for a costume)- but that's about the only accurate thing here.

For one - Raimi didn't have control - that's a big reason he walked. Sony did not want him using the Vulture, or his second choice, The Lizard. The script was a mess (this according to about everyone involved), and focused on Peter and MJ having a baby.



Yeah,
OK.

Raimi did have complete control of the story for 4. He didn't "walk", he simply couldn't make the 2011 deadline(wanted a better writer) that Sony was pushing for.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Spider-Man-5-And-6-Get-A-Writer-Say-Goo
dbye-To-Sam-Raimi-14387.html


Why don't you do a bit of research before you post inaccurate facts, or at least tell us where you get these wild stories from. Thanks.

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:27 PM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by WhoDied:


Sure, sure, and Petey'll be nervous and sarcastic too, not all *sparkley* and ever so (ever so?) EVER so emo...

Spider-man No More, indeed.



Yup, it will be a disaster.

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:27 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by OPPYH:

Yeah,
OK.

Raimi did have complete control of the story for 4. He didn't "walk", he simply couldn't make the 2011 deadline(wanted a better writer) that Sony was pushing for.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Spider-Man-5-And-6-Get-A-Writer-Say-Goo
dbye-To-Sam-Raimi-14387.html


Why don't you do a bit of research before you post inaccurate facts, or at least tell us where you get these wild stories from. Thanks.



Uh... for one, that article is from August. Things move fast in the movie biz, son.

Two - Raimi left because he couldn't make a 2011 date??? So Sony moves the film to 2012? Riiiight, that makes sense.

Hell, did you even read the link you posted?? It says:

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So the short version here is that Sony has hired a writer Raimi wasn’t entirely happy with to write more Spider-Man movies. And what happened the last time Sony did something that Sam Raimi wasn’t entirely happy with? We got Spider-Man 3.


and
Quote:

This could be Sony making plans to ditch Raimi and the rest to do whatever the hell they want, with a different cast and a different director.


Yeah.... sounds like total control. Damn, it doesn't even say anything about Raimi missing the date! Is this you just floating your own BS theory, unresearched, and then bitching at me about sourcing?? Sounds like it.

Sure, the "official" word was that Raimi had control over the story. But that was also the official tale on 3, and then it turned out he had Venom forced on him.

You seem to be reading the official press releases put out by the studio marketing department and taking them as the whole story. Come on.

There have been rumors of script problems for a while (there have been at least 5 writers involved with the now-abandoned script). But the original reports about a delay on the film came about a month ago (not October, I was off on the timetable) and, I would point out - the studio insisted at the time that all was well on the movie, and it was only on holiday hiatus. http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7951:
spider-man-4-production-on-indefinite-hold&catid=43:exclusive-features&Itemid=73


The story was picked up by many other sites, and later turned into the Jan 5th announcement - again from the studio and reported in Variety - that the film was going on indefinite hold - but that Raimi and co. were still attached. Maguire said in an interview Jan. 8th that the delay was over script issues http://www.wopular.com/tobey-maguire-comments-spider-man-4-delay-says-
its-still-coming-2011
.

And then this.

You tell me to do a littlee research, and then display no knowledge of what has been going on.

Pretty damned weak.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:39 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

You tell me to do a little research, and then display no knowledge of what has been going on.


Looks like Sony trumps Marvel. And Raimi.



The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:52 PM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:


"So the short version here is that Sony has hired a writer Raimi wasn’t entirely happy with to write more Spider-Man movies. And what happened the last time Sony did something that Sam Raimi wasn’t entirely happy with? We got Spider-Man 3."



Yeah.... sounds like total control. Damn, it doesn't even say anything about Raimi missing the date! Is this you just floating your own BS theory, unresearched, and then bitching at me about sourcing?? Sounds like it.


Yes, complete creative control over the story gives one the power to pass on any script the director dislikes(exactly what happened).

I'm not bitching, you're just posting your own dreamed up theories and I'm posting what I have read about Spiderman 4.


About the date thing, if I post another link will you feel stupid, and stop arguing with fact?

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/urgent-spider-man-4-scrapped-as-is-r
aimi-and-cast-out-franchise-reboot-planned
/

There ya go!

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:04 PM

OPPYH


Storymark, show me an article stating Raimi decided to "walk" on Spidey 4.

Thanks in advance.

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:16 PM

STORYMARK


The article you posted, the Deadline Hollywood one, say he walked.

But again, your taking the press release as the real story, whereas everything I posted runs back a month. The reason he couldn't make the date they wanted was they didn't have a script he was willing to shoot because the studio and he could not agree on the direction of the film. How is this not consistant with what I wrote?

You present it like he's not "able" to complete the film by that date. He chooses not to do a shitty film in a hurry. There is a difference.

And, perhaps you don't read as many industry sites as I, which is understandable, as that's about all I read, but Frinke is considered by many to be an on-the-payrole studio shill for Sony amongst a couple others.

And, as the links I posted - and the ones you posted - show, I'm hardly posting my wild ideas. The story is right there.

So again, maybe you should do your own research before attacking others.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:42 PM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
The article you posted, the Deadline Hollywood one, say he walked.

But again, your taking the press release as the real story, whereas everything I posted runs back a month. The reason he couldn't make the date they wanted was they didn't have a script he was willing to shoot because the studio and he could not agree on the direction of the film. How is this not consistant with what I wrote?

So again, maybe you should do your own research before attacking others.



Your words:

"Damn, it doesn't even say anything about Raimi missing the date! Is this you just floating your own BS theory, unresearched, and then bitching at me about sourcing?? Sounds like it."


-Pretty strong words. You first objected to, and now completely agree with(after I posted the articled source) Raimi not having Spidey 4 ready by 2011.

Whats going on? Are you schizophrenic? Are you playing games, or you just winging it as it unfolds agreeing, and disagreeing to suit how you feel at that particular time?

Your scaring me dude.


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Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:51 PM

CHRISISALL


Story usually has the scoop, he's like a less pretty Lois Lane that way.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:35 AM

ZEEK


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Originally posted by Storymark:
The article you posted, the Deadline Hollywood one, say he walked.

But again, your taking the press release as the real story, whereas everything I posted runs back a month. The reason he couldn't make the date they wanted was they didn't have a script he was willing to shoot because the studio and he could not agree on the direction of the film. How is this not consistant with what I wrote?


Because you wrote that the studio ruined Spidey 3 and gave him a script he didn't want and that he apparently couldn't walk because of hollywood laws of physics. So, either he liked Spidey 3 or he's unable to back out on movies. Which is it?

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Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:52 AM

OPPYH


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Story usually has the scoop, he's like a less pretty Lois Lane that way.


The laughing Chrisisall



I don't deny Story is usually on top of all things comic book.

However, on this particular issue he is all over the place. He stated the articles I read were BS. I posted them, and then he recanted. Citing "official" press releases as not being the whole story. They aren't, but unless you work for Sony, how would he know otherwise?


In better news, my friend works for WB(script consultant) and she gives me all the juicy dirt I care to hear.

Currently WB is pushing hard for a 3rd Batman film from Nolan. They want a 2012 release also,but Nolan isn't budging. Could this mean another reboot for the Batman?

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Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:37 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by OPPYH:

Currently WB is pushing hard for a 3rd Batman film from Nolan. They want a 2012 release also,but Nolan isn't budging. Could this mean another reboot for the Batman?

If Nolan says no, sure as shootin' someone else will say yes.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:52 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Ok, look - I always liked Spidey, he was a more down to earth kinda hero, someone you could feel for, with real life frustrations and problems beyond the scope of the costume, and those movies somehow managed to fumble that into some kind of emo-angsty morass that made me ill just to watch it.

This is the part where I go "reboot?! how bout OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE STOP THE MADNESS!... seriously."

I felt like I'd ordered cotton candy and been served a lukewarm lemon slushie, just ICK!

The only memorable as decent part of the whole thing I even remember past the nausea was just how good the guy playing J. Jonah Jameson brought it home, and a rare FEW moments were Osbourne broke through the cheesy cardboard and actually got to act, but honestly, this one's for the round file.

-F

PS - Downey as Stark, amen! - ain't no one else can do the part cause Downey's personal history gives him the ability to internalise Stark's nature so very well.

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Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:15 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by OPPYH:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
The article you posted, the Deadline Hollywood one, say he walked.

But again, your taking the press release as the real story, whereas everything I posted runs back a month. The reason he couldn't make the date they wanted was they didn't have a script he was willing to shoot because the studio and he could not agree on the direction of the film. How is this not consistant with what I wrote?

So again, maybe you should do your own research before attacking others.





Your words:

"Damn, it doesn't even say anything about Raimi missing the date! Is this you just floating your own BS theory, unresearched, and then bitching at me about sourcing?? Sounds like it."


-Pretty strong words. You first objected to, and now completely agree with(after I posted the articled source) Raimi not having Spidey 4 ready by 2011.

Whats going on? Are you schizophrenic? Are you playing games, or you just winging it as it unfolds agreeing, and disagreeing to suit how you feel at that particular time?

Your scaring me dude.




I said it wasn't just the date - that it was the script. What do all the stories say? The date was impossible because of.... the script. Again.... how is that not what I said from the start? I mean, sorry if I didn't lay it out in simple enough terms or something. So fine - I was opaque in my wording.... do you feel better, scoring a point?

Meanwhile.... Raimi did walk - according to, amongst other things - the article YOU linked when telling me he didn't walk.... Oh, and all the articles talk about the script issues.

And didn't recant a damned thing. You are oversimplifying at best.... or just a moron who can't admit a mistake.

Oh, hell... why am I arguing with someone who doesn't even read the links they themselves post? Like trying to talk to a wall....

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:20 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by OPPYH:

Currently WB is pushing hard for a 3rd Batman film from Nolan. They want a 2012 release also,but Nolan isn't budging. Could this mean another reboot for the Batman?

If Nolan says no, sure as shootin' someone else will say yes.


The laughing Chrisisall



No doubt. But I wouldn't count Nolan out. He has had a long standing policy that he won't discuss his next project until the current one is out. He wouldn't commit to TDK until The Prestige was done, so I wouldn't assume anything until Inception is closer to release.

And even on the off chance that Nolan didn't come back, they'd still stick to this continuity in all likelihood. I don't see them going into the next one ignoring such a massive hit(both financially and critically).

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:30 PM

OPPYH


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Originally posted by Storymark:

And didn't recant a damned thing. You are oversimplifying at best.... or just a moron who can't admit a mistake.



Just fighting luncay with madness.

You were the one who said Raimi not making the date(script was implied) was BS. So yes, you did recant what you initially stated. And like I said, unless you work for Sony, You have nothing to base your stories on EXCEPT "official" press releases(everything else is heresay, and rumor). Well you admitted your mistake(sort of) so I will admit that I thought Raimi parting from the Spidey franchise was a mutual descision between Sony, and himself. I just read it too fast is all.




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