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Iron man- Best Superhero Movie Ever?

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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:27 PM

CHRISISALL


IMO, the flick is the closest thing to perfection since Superman The Movie. Even Batman Begins takes a second place to this recent comic book adaption.
And face my Repulsor rays if you disagree!!!


The stark Chrisisall

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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:43 PM

COLE23


Sir,I'll face your repulser ray in my armoured bat suit.Iron Man was greatness,and even though I'm tired of hearing about it myself,I gotta go with The Dark Knight.Look out for The Watchmen though!I think it's gonna be a contender.

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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:31 PM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
IMO, the flick is the closest thing to perfection since Superman The Movie. Even Batman Begins takes a second place to this recent comic book adaption.
And face my Repulsor rays if you disagree!!!



Yes. Iron Man restored my faith in Marvel movies.
After all, I nearly walked out of Spidey 3. X-Men3, I'm not even gonna go there. I believe Superman the movie will always be tops with me as well.

The Dark Knight:
Chrisisall your theory about there being too many cooks in the kitchen(or villains in a movie) is accurate.
Two Face gummed up a movie that was going rather smoothly. Broke the pacing, and that is not acceptable. Long story short....I liked the first half of it.


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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:20 PM

TATERTOT


Oh man I love Ironman! The Dark Knight is still number one for moi. But Ironman is a close second for sure.




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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:05 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by tatertot:
Oh man I love Ironman! The Dark Knight is still number one for moi. But Ironman is a close second for sure.

You just have a crush on Bale, admit it.

IRON MAN RULES!!!!!


The cool exec Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:16 AM

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Iron man- Best Superhero Movie Ever?

Yes



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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:29 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by tatertot:
Oh man I love Ironman! The Dark Knight is still number one for moi. But Ironman is a close second for sure.

You just have a crush on Bale, admit it.

IRON MAN RULES!!!!!


The cool exec Chrisisall



I will admit to a lust for Bale, but Iron Man was still better. (and Mr. Downey isn't hard to look at )

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:35 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
(and Mr. Downey isn't hard to look at )


Plus: he does Wing Chun gung fu, my style!!! How cool is that?


The blaze of armour Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:50 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Nope.

As much as I love it, it's just too cheesy to be the ultimate Superhero Movie.

*Prepares to dodge 'Repulsor Rays'*




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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:56 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

As much as I love it, it's just too cheesy to be the ultimate Superhero Movie.

*Prepares to dodge 'Repulsor Rays'*

CHEESY!!?!?!?!?!?!
*engages power to secondary circuits*
What about IM was CHEESY?
*sets repulsor on tight focus beam*


The solid Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:57 AM

TATERTOT


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

You just have a crush on Bale, admit it.

IRON MAN RULES!!!!!




I do indeed, but I have a crush on Robert Downey jr. as well. Infact I like him more than Bale. So the crush had nothing to do with it!


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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:23 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

As much as I love it, it's just too cheesy to be the ultimate Superhero Movie.

*Prepares to dodge 'Repulsor Rays'*

CHEESY!!?!?!?!?!?!
*engages power to secondary circuits*
What about IM was CHEESY?
*sets repulsor on tight focus beam*


The solid Chrisisall



*Utilising full REMO capabilities*

Hey listen 'C" I absolutely love Iron Man and it being cheesy aint no bad thang. Fact is Cheese is a big part of all my favourite films: Big Trouble in little China, Indy (to some extent) Sean of the Dead - hell I love the 80's Flash Gordon and that's absolutely swimming in fondue!

I don't mean to put a kink in Iron Man for you though but you have to admit the whole Jeff Bridges reveal at the end is... well somewhat stiltony in nature... and the set up for it - with the montage, voice over, magazine covers and having Jeff being all arch in the background to one of those shots with he and Tony... it's cheesy fodder mate....It's a cheese plate at the end of the meal!

*watches Chris' trigger finger*



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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:33 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
the whole Jeff Bridges reveal at the end


Oh.
That.

Yeah, I see what yer sayin'.
I still count Superman The Movie as the best superhero flick of all time. It's unbelievable how well it holds up in this age of digital FX, IMO.


The Kryptonian Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:34 AM

LEEDAVIDT


i was very impressed with iron man when i saw it... i was equally impressed if not a little more with the dark knight just for the,well,darkness of it...

still,deep down,i'm a spidey fan...will be i guess forever...just cuz i grew up with the comics...

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:41 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by leedavidt:


still,deep down,i'm a spidey fan...will be i guess forever...just cuz i grew up with the comics...


Me too. I am among the few who loved Spider-man 3, I think.


The sticky Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:42 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

As much as I love it, it's just too cheesy to be the ultimate Superhero Movie.

*Prepares to dodge 'Repulsor Rays'*

CHEESY!!?!?!?!?!?!
*engages power to secondary circuits*
What about IM was CHEESY?
*sets repulsor on tight focus beam*


The solid Chrisisall



*Utilising full REMO capabilities*

Hey listen 'C" I absolutely love Iron Man and it being cheesy aint no bad thang. Fact is Cheese is a big part of all my favourite films: Big Trouble in little China, Indy (to some extent) Sean of the Dead - hell I love the 80's Flash Gordon and that's absolutely swimming in fondue!

I don't mean to put a kink in Iron Man for you though but you have to admit the whole Jeff Bridges reveal at the end is... well somewhat stiltony in nature... and the set up for it - with the montage, voice over, magazine covers and having Jeff being all arch in the background to one of those shots with he and Tony... it's cheesy fodder mate....It's a cheese plate at the end of the meal!

*watches Chris' trigger finger*


]

DUDE! Its a comic book - helllloooooooo

selfrighteousFMFisall

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:46 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
DUDE! Its a comic book - helllloooooooo



Exactly.


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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:52 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
I still count Superman The Movie as the best superhero flick of all time. It's unbelievable how well it holds up in this age of digital FX, IMO.]



Yeah - What can you say about Christopher Reeve and his Clark Kent. It's brilliant, and yet saddly under-rated. I actually enjoy watching the fight sequences to 2 just as much. The battle with Zod and co still gets the hairs on the back of the neck standing!

Christopher Reeve was ace!




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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:53 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
DUDE! Its a comic book - helllloooooooo



Exactly.


And what were Superman & Batman Begins? Epic-al motion pictures?

Hmmmmm.....


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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:55 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
The battle with Zod and co still gets the hairs on the back of the neck standing!


Have you seen the Donner Cut of it? Whoah.


The Bizarro Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:06 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

And what were Superman & Batman Begins? Epic-al motion pictures?

Hmmmmm.....



Superman certainly - but has a slightly cheesey aroma. I wasn't a fan of Batman Begins at all I'm afraid. That was incredibly cheesey!


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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:07 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Have you seen the Donner Cut of it? Whoah.



Not yet. I want to though.


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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:11 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Quote:

Have you seen the Donner Cut of it? Whoah.



Not yet. I want to though.


I like the first half of the Lester version better than the Donner Cut, but the second half of the Donner Cut better than the Lester version.


The picky Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:11 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

And what were Superman & Batman Begins? Epic-al motion pictures?

Hmmmmm.....



Superman certainly - but has a slightly cheesey aroma. I wasn't a fan of Batman Begins at all I'm afraid. That was incredibly cheesey!

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Maybe you should stop going to comic book movies????

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:16 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

Quote:

Maybe you should stop going to comic book movies????


I did! Iron Man and several friends dragged me back! Again being Cheesy is no bad thing. I like cheese. Alot! It's not a criticism FMF - at least not from me. But Big 'C' asked what it was that was cheesy about it. Thats all.

I love Iron Man. After Be Kind Rewind it was my favourite film of 2008


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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:24 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Yes but you can't complain that a movie is cheesy if in fact the movie is SUPPOSED to be cheesy. It's like saying peanut butter is too peanut'y'


FMFisjustsayinisall



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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:01 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Quote:

Yes but you can't complain that a movie is cheesy if in fact the movie is SUPPOSED to be cheesy. It's like saying peanut butter is too peanut'y'


FMFisjustsayinisall





..but I'm not complaining. I like it. Perhaps it has something to do with how sincere a film is? *shruggs* I don't have the definitive say y'know just my personal opinion... But with alot of films of this genre - they start out life as a 'Superhero' film whereas maybe something like the Reeve's Superman it was just a film. Sans brand - if that makes any sense - and so more sincere. Maybe I dunno - I thinks we're into semantics here now.

Oh and for the record peanut butter is too peanutty!




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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:06 AM

KIRKULES


Spiderman 1 had the best Superhero ending ever. Overall though I think Iron man is the best.

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:36 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
But with alot of films of this genre - they start out life as a 'Superhero' film whereas maybe something like the Reeve's Superman it was just a film. Sans brand - if that makes any sense - and so more sincere.

Makes perfect sense to me, Som.


The there-with-ya Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:42 PM

COLE23


I would lke to see a Donner/Lester cut of Superman II,where you take the best of both.I love that film,no matter how cheesy it gets.

NEIL BEFORE ZOD!

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:12 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


COLE23 wrote:
Quote:

NEIL BEFORE ZOD!


Now that made me laugh!




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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:16 PM

COLE23


Actually.I feel like an idiot.I meant.....

KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!

Haha.I was in a hurry.I had to take my kids to a church function.

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Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:16 PM

COLE23


For all my fellow General Zod fans.

http://www.i-mockery.com/generalzod/default.php

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Thursday, January 1, 2009 12:57 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Don't worry Cole23 I knew what you meant. Although I was kinda hoping your real name was Neil...

Still very dangerous to even suggest a thing. Thanks for the link. that has really tickled me. I might have to start the new year by annoying my friends with constant retorts of:

"Why do you say these things to me , when you know I will kill you for it.."

Great link. Thanks

Happy New Year.


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Thursday, January 1, 2009 6:34 AM

COLE23


Ha!Ha! I love that line.Forget Quenton Tarentino,Superman II,best dialogue ever.

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Thursday, January 1, 2009 12:02 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Cole23:
For all my fellow General Zod fans.

http://www.i-mockery.com/generalzod/default.php



So this is Mockery. A strange surface.


The defiant Chrisisall

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Thursday, January 1, 2009 12:08 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Cole23:
I would lke to see a Donner/Lester cut of Superman II,where you take the best of both.



http://www.mininova.org/tor/632151

There ya go, but I haven't seen it 'cause for some reason my 'puter won't successfully download it, & I ain't enough of a computer geek to understand why...


The hybrid Chrisisall

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Thursday, January 1, 2009 5:14 PM

COLE23


Holy crap!Thanks!That is awesome.Looking at the bottom where he tells how he edited it,this looks really interesting.

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Friday, January 2, 2009 1:33 AM

HKCAVALIER


Minority report: I found myself really put off by Iron Man's cavalier attitude toward killing. That shot when he killed 10 terr'sts with 10 li'l rockets coming out of his shoulders was, I suppose, badass--but damn! Can you say "unequal warfare?" They didn't have a chance. It wasn't a fight, it was an execution, y'see what I mean? I mean it was a freakin' embodiment of what Western Power has done in that part of the world for centuries. Left a really bad taste in my mouth. If you have that kind of power over your enemy, would it kill ya to find a less lethal method of TOTAL DOMINATION? Yeesh.

And why is it that superheroes so often end up fighting a wannabe version of themselves for the climax? It's hack work. Hack metaphysics. The lame.

Me, I liked The Shadow. I mean, Jonathan Winters, c'mon! Batman Returns was highly underrated. And X-men was written by Joss, fer cryin' out-loud! Oh and Batman Begins was an instant classic. After the smoke clears, Dark Knight was plain incoherent. Remove Ledger from the equation and it just falls apart.



They look pretty pissed to me, Chris. I'd start editing or start running, if I were you.

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Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Friday, January 2, 2009 6:13 AM

STORYMARK


Iron Man was good, and very entertaining, but it was sooooo rote and by-the-numbers that there's no way I'd call it the best ever. It's incredibly predictable, and lifts the structure of Batman Begins pretty shamelessly. It's solid, but without a great lead performance from Downey Jr, it wouldn't be half the movie it is.

I still consider The Dark Knight, Batman Begins, X-Men 2, and Spider-Man 2 better examples of the genre.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 2, 2009 6:32 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Minority report: I found myself really put off by Iron Man's cavalier attitude toward killing. That shot when he killed 10 terr'sts with 10 li'l rockets coming out of his shoulders was, I suppose, badass--but damn! Can you say "unequal warfare?" They didn't have a chance. It wasn't a fight, it was an execution, y'see what I mean? I mean it was a freakin' embodiment of what Western Power has done in that part of the world for centuries. Left a really bad taste in my mouth. If you have that kind of power over your enemy, would it kill ya to find a less lethal method of TOTAL DOMINATION? Yeesh.

And why is it that superheroes so often end up fighting a wannabe version of themselves for the climax? It's hack work. Hack metaphysics. The lame.

Me, I liked The Shadow. I mean, Jonathan Winters, c'mon! Batman Returns was highly underrated. And X-men was written by Joss, fer cryin' out-loud! Oh and Batman Begins was an instant classic. After the smoke clears, Dark Knight was plain incoherent. Remove Ledger from the equation and it just falls apart.



They look pretty pissed to me, Chris. I'd start editing or start running, if I were you.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.



Considering that the 10 terrorists were holding human shields in front of them, were beating a father in front of his children and had the intention of shooting said father in front of his children-as well as the fact that they had certainly killed untold innocents -considering all that then more power to Iron Man. It was not an execution - they were armed and had been shooting at him.

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Friday, January 2, 2009 6:40 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
It was not an execution - they were armed and had been shooting at him.




Given that their shots were 100% ineffective and pointless, that's like saying it's okay to blow someone up for throwing a pea at you.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 2, 2009 6:42 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
It was not an execution - they were armed and had been shooting at him.




Given that their shots were 100% ineffective and pointless, that's like saying it's okay to blow someone up for throwing a pea at you.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



No its not. The weapons were ineffective against him, not the innocents they were killing. Are we supposed to stand by and watch as others are killed just because our weapons are bigger or better?

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Friday, January 2, 2009 6:45 AM

STORYMARK


Didn't say that. You are reading what you like into my statement. I just said they were ineffective against him, and they were. The fact that they were dangerous to others doesn't change the point that he could have used non-lethal means just as effectively.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 2, 2009 8:12 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Non-lethal methods would not have solved the problem. They would have lived to loot, pillage and murder another day.



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Tuesday, January 6, 2009 10:12 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
IMO, the flick is the closest thing to perfection since Superman The Movie. Even Batman Begins takes a second place to this recent comic book adaption.
And face my Repulsor rays if you disagree!!!

The stark Chrisisall


Most definitely!
Only thing wrong with it is that the DVD lacks a commentary from Robert Downey, Jr. and/or Jon Favreau.

I could barely sit through The Dark Knight.

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Sunday, January 18, 2009 5:05 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
The fact that they were dangerous to others doesn't change the point that he could have used non-lethal means just as effectively.


I'm not so clear on what means those might have been in that circumstance...?


The confounded Chrisisall

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Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:32 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Y.E.S.

Far and away , Best Superhero flick of them all !

Thought so first time I saw it at the skinny-ma .

Snoozefest The Dark Knight gets most of the love , go figure...

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Saturday, January 24, 2009 3:43 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by out2theblack:

Snoozefest The Dark Knight gets most of the love , go figure...

Yup.


The sleepy Chrisisall

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Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:12 AM

LWAVES


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by out2theblack:

Snoozefest The Dark Knight gets most of the love , go figure...



Yup.

The sleepy Chrisisall



This is why I never ever consider Batman a superhero. He is a crime fighter or vigilante.
On that grounds Iron Man is the best superhero movie of recent times (will anything beat Superman The Movie??).

Although I think The Dark Knight is a fantastic film (even with it's flaws) I do have to agree it is getting too much attention that, as a result of Ledgers death, it wouldn't have normally got.

For me a superhero has to have been physically modified in some way (space rays, chemicals, radiation, technology or whatever it may be).
Tony Stark, whilst just a man, has his chestplate that stops the shrapnel getting to his heart but this also allows him to powere his suit. Other superheroes have their own thing.
Batman has nothing like that. Beneath everything he is just a man. Plain and simple.

I think it's unfair to compare them.
But when is anything fair these days....



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