OTHER SCIENCE FICTION SERIES

An idea.

POSTED BY: DUG
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Monday, August 25, 2003 8:15 AM

DUG


We've got some talented writers.

I've done audio production for around 15 years; spent most my life in radio. I love radio dramas. Lots of anime and some brit scifi fans make fanfic audio dramas; I've voiced som Doctor Who and some crap anime ones.

Would anyone think the idea ludicrous if we considered putting together some of our own fanfic eps of Firefly? I've got the studio. I can track down sfx and music.

dug.


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Monday, August 25, 2003 8:32 AM

JOHNNYREB


Where would you broadcast it? Who would you get to play all the characters? How would you get all the voice talents to record their voices for your "radio" show? Who would write the scripts?
Just curious.

Viva Firefly!

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Monday, August 25, 2003 8:58 AM

CAPTBAGGYTROUSERS


I kind of love this idea but kind of fear it. I was just reading an article about the new Star Wars: Clone Wars cartoons coming to Cartoon Network and how, except for Anthony Daniels, no actors are available for their voice roles. The idea of "scab" voices bothers me, especially with the beloved crew of Serenity.

But...Ohh... Firefly radio shows.

There would need to be a narrator, of course. How do we keep this from sounding like The Dukes of Hazard?

History repeats the old conceits

http://topshelftvshow.com
Updated! Improved! Shiny!

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Monday, August 25, 2003 9:00 AM

STILLSHINY


I've done quite a bit of drama. Would so love to see this take place and to be involved. Why not just put them together and mix them into audio files. They would take a lot less space than the videos. Though I must say I've seen some excellent fan vides from Star Wars fans. The HO brothers (AWESOME STUFF)

Anyway it could be done as a group setting in a studio and then remixed or even have a "cast" record seperate audio tracks and then have them produced and mixed together. I would so love to be a part of this shiny project. I am limited as far as equipment or software, but I consider my self dramatically talented, not to mention I taught drama for 5 years. and very enthusiastic. Oh, let's make this thing fly. We would have to get some fanfic authors permission, but I am sure these could be done with no red tape. This is so Ultra-shiny!!! We could do some type of tryouts via audio casette or submitted wav files.

I know it may not be the same as done by Joss & crew, but hey. It would sure keep Serenity flying. (e-mail me if you'd like)

Besides I've never watched any of the fanfics on the screen, but I've seen every one I've read. (think on that)

Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Monday, August 25, 2003 10:18 AM

DUG


The way most of these work is that fans do the voicing...and I admit I've got some problems with that too.

They don't get broadcast (unless you can afford timebuys and legal issues with Fox and Mutant Enemy...), but they get posted on the net just like written fanfic.

Check out www.floorten.com for some Doctor Who examples. For Who the idea eventually grew into professional shows hiring the real actors and selling cd's. that would be at www.doctorwho.co.uk. The fans took over he show when the BBC abandoned it, started series of books and kept things going.

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Monday, August 25, 2003 10:20 AM

STILLSHINY


sign me up. What do we gotta do?

besides get more responses to this thread.

Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Monday, August 25, 2003 10:26 AM

JOHNNYREB


Yeah, what's the first step?

Viva Firefly!

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Monday, August 25, 2003 11:16 AM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.


If one is produced and then encoded to MP3, I can make it available for people to download and get it distributed that way.

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Monday, August 25, 2003 11:25 AM

MELEAUX




Quote:

There would need to be a narrator, of course. How do we keep this from sounding like The Dukes of Hazard?


Hey, what's wrong with the Dukes of Hazard...:wink"


She understands, she doesn't comprehend

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Monday, August 25, 2003 2:34 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.


What's the next step?

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Monday, August 25, 2003 2:37 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.


What's the next step?

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Monday, August 25, 2003 3:10 PM

LEGALBEGAL


The next step would be getting a script I guess. I like the idea and think that it would be great.

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Monday, August 25, 2003 3:43 PM

JOHNNYREB


So, do we contact authors of the best fanfics and ask if we can use their work, or do we let the authors come forward and write brand new stuff, or do we contact the authors of the best fanfics and ask them if they would like to produce a new script for the show? I'm kinda liking this idea. It sounded crazy, at first. Now it sounds like it really has some potential!

Viva Firefly!

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Monday, August 25, 2003 6:01 PM

FREMDFIRMA


>>Hey, what's wrong with the Dukes of Hazard<<

Only saw that once, but ya know... I'd pay good money to see Kaylee in them shorts, heh, heh..

-frem
diefuxdie

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Monday, August 25, 2003 6:08 PM

CANADIANJON


I wonder if any fans can impersonate the voices
(here or on other message boards).

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:28 AM

WERESPAZ


I might be able to do a decent Jayne. I always wanted to be a voice actor (mostly cuz I'm ugly as sin). I always practice voices in the car to and from work, and I could probably do a pretty good job with the chinese.

-The SpAz

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:58 AM

DUG


OK, here's what I see we need to do to proceed:

1: keep talking. Here and on email. I'm at dugwho@excite.com.

2: decide how we want to do a script. Adapt/ write from scratch? I think our first try should be fairly short; 10-15 minutes.

3: Auditions to see if we's got people who can sound like REAL people. Audio shows work best if we focus on about 4-5 characters at a time (things get confusing with more), so we may be able to have multiple "episodes" for different character groups? Like Mal/ Zoe/ Jayne/ Wash and Inara/ Book/ Simon/ River.


And on my end, I need to get copies of all the episodes so I can pull sfx and music. Damned dialup; too slow to download. Suggestions?

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:02 AM

LOTV


Just a rather random thought here for the process, but perhaps for this radio show thought, we create a new crew, perhaps another ship out there, and do a lot of Firefly ties ins..

(spin off, I know.. but this way people don't feel bad when someone does a bad impersonation, and new characters can be created without Fox saying we violated them somehow...

LOTV: Ima-who-whata-whoichy-whoda-whazza--huh?

Garapagosu Last Update: 6/24/03

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:11 AM

DUG


Not a bad thought. I've pondered some on that too. We've got a whole 'verse to play in.

What do people think? We could name our ship "Fox Sucks".....

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:19 AM

STILLSHINY


As far as voices I could do a decent mal or simon. Really wanna do wash. Ain't quite got the depth for book. So any young ladies out there who like to mumble unintelligible phrases, we need a river.
I have to say this whole idea is really sounding good. We should start with a shorter simple fan fic. Something strongly character based, not requiring too much in the way of FX. That one called A little R&R would be shiny. Not to mention we have to come up with some villians, and they can sound any way they want to. Here's the link for the R&R fanfics.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=13

The spin-off crew sounds interesting. But man I love the original characters so much.
Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:20 AM

JOHNNYREB


We're not making money off of it. It's a labor of love, so fox can pound sand. It's just like any other fanfic, with the right disclaimers I think we might be alright. Consider it "a fanfic for the visually impaired."

Also, we should see who volunteers for voices before we discount their abilities. We may be surprised.

"This is the story of Firefly. You can read along with me in your book. You will know it is time to turn the page, when you hear the engines roar. Like this: ROOOAAR!!! Let's begin now."

Viva Firefly!

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:23 AM

STILLSHINY


OK REB you asked for it, and I gotta do it.

"Am I a lion, well, I guess I do have a mighty ROAR"

forgive me couldn't help it.

but then again what other sound would you use for an engine

not to mention "this idea might actually fly, unlike my Metal sign idea-stupid sign guy never wrote me back, I'll bet he's allliance, or just a dumb guy in a bar on u-day"

Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:30 AM

STILLSHINY


by the way, Dug

someone the other day said the had all epps in mp3 or wav, would that help?

now where was that link?.......



here it is

SUCCATASH
The only difference between me and a retard is my golden lunchbox, and a magic ring I stole from Satan. Friday, August 15, 2003 - 16:29

Does anyone want entire audio files? I made wav's of the entire eps. About 40-50 MB each. I gave them to Maniac so he could listen as he types all night at work. Email info@strangefinger.com or maniac@magicbishop.com and one of us can help you. If you have Windows Messenger, it would help if you included your username in the email. Have a nice day.


Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:36 AM

JOHNNYREB


Don't feel bad, Stillshiny. I've written to two or three internet companies inquiring about their services and haven't heard from them. What's wrong with people today? Oh, well.

If the script only needs to be 10-15 minutes long, I may try my hand at it--just so there can be a low-down polecat bad guy named G. Berman who gets in the end. (Hey, fox! )

Viva Firefly!

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:46 AM

STILLSHINY


my kinda stupid

and if we get good enough, perhaps we could get the OK from Joss to perform "Dead or Alive"

how do you make the sound for a singed turtle?

Ok so I'm all set to send my audition in!!!

this is just way too shiny!!

Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:29 AM

TZEGHA


Quote:

a low-down polecat bad guy named G. Berman who gets in the end.


*sniff*

It's so nice to inspire people in such a way . . .

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:59 PM

XENARC


Well, I can't do impersonations, but have been told I have a decent speaking voice, and I have a bit of amatuer drama background. If that's not needed then still count me in to help in any way I can - Cool idea!




XenArc

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:46 PM

CANADIANJON


Does anyone know if its semi-illegal?
Should it be hush hush?


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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:22 AM

JOHNNYREB


I think as long as nobody makes money off it and nobody claims the characters are theirs we should be ok. Nobody has been sued for a written fanfic yet. I don't see why one you listen to should be different. (That I know about.)

Viva Firefly!

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:19 AM

STILLSHINY


I gotta agree with JohnnyReb!

There are lots of fanfics, & even fanvids which incorporate sound fx from pre-existing movies.


Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:23 AM

JOHNNYREB


...might want to give credit where credit is due too.

Viva Firefly!

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:04 AM

SERENITYVALLEY


Yehaw I want to help I want to help I want to help!

I could probably do a pretty good Kaylee. I mean I am female and her age and all. I may be able to do River...I think.

So how are auditions working and when? Are we talking posting or emailing some wav/mp3 files somewhere or what?

As far as recording goes, I see you have a studio and all, but I liked that idea of separate files per cast. I have a ton of audio equiptment because we have a studio to record music for our band. (which reminds me, if you need an extra music, I have a band and we have a violin player).

If there's going to be only a few characters per cast, you could work on more than one ep at a time.

This will be fun.

http://www.simple-assault.com/Firefly.htm

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:13 AM

JOHNNYREB


When do you need the first drafts of the scripts by? If I don't have a date, I will never get off my a** to do it. Ah, the perils of procrastination! I'm giving it all me free thoughts.

Viva Firefly!

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:37 AM

STILLSHINY


I emailed DUG.

Ain't heard back from him yet. But I am so ready to see this fly.

Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:12 AM

IDEFIX


this whole idea sounds sooooo cool. and I'm female. but I'm also german. so I couldn't be sure to impersonate any english speaking woman without showing a very false sounding accent.
I'm not sure of how much of an accent but I'm no actor or some such either. never learned anything about speaking and never tried it. I'm not even sure my voice would fit anyone. but that's just because I don't really know how to judge that.

but I'm sure there are native speaking women out there willing to do it. aren't there?

come on - this one is too good to let it go to waste. it is really so close to having actual new EPs. there is terrific fanfic out there and having it played out even on audio only would be great.

Idefix

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:22 AM

DUG


Sorry I haven't responded yet. I got the email....

I like the idea of people cutting their lines and emailing them. I was saying I could use my equipment to put it all together and do production. I'd love to do more than one at once if we can, and I love the idea of original music.

As for deadlines on scripts, ASAP! We all wanna do this! Anyone disagree???

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:30 AM

STILLSHINY


Quote:

Originally posted by Idefix:
this whole idea sounds sooooo cool. and I'm female. but I'm also german. so I couldn't be sure to impersonate any english speaking woman without showing a very false sounding accent.
EPs. there is terrific fanfic out there and having it played out even on audio only would be great. Idefix



Hey we could easily create a character with some foreign accent. Look at Niska. I'd try to create a character just because of your "shiny" enthusiasm.

Oh Yeah, Dug did you check out the R & R fanfic. I put the link up higher in this thread. Understand, lots of us have recording ability, it's just that our equipment may suck like fox. But, I'm sure we could all improvise.



Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:41 AM

JOHNNYREB


Yeah! I'm all about a character with a German accent too! Maybe a couple! I'm still thinking about what would make for a good script--writer's block, and I haven't even started writing yet.

Viva Firefly!

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:47 AM

SARAHETC


These are great ideas, tho I haven't seen anything as to how anyone is actually going to do it.

So, for what it's worth, and because I have seen the idea advanced elsewhere: I write fanfic. I have done a teensy amount of voiceover. I have access to hardware and software with which to record and edit.

If folks dig it, I could try recording the first Browncoat Chronicles story (When Firefly Fans Attack: The Search for LifeofWily) as a pilot of sorts.

If folks can't dig it, no harm no foul.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:00 AM

STILLSHINY


One thing I am noticing looking at the current existing fan fics is that few of them are in a "scripted format" We would have to either request th ok of the authors to alter the format (which i ain't certainly comftorable with, I mean for some folks that's their art) or request permission to do the altering ourselves (which might be even more unsettling). Of course the idea is we like what they wrote so much we want to put it to life. Some of the fanfics are great at setting & narration, though theses have greater tedency to drag in an audio format. In that setting people are looking for characters & voices. Hmmmmmm. How to work around that. Unless, we just write the scripts ourselves. ugh, rock & hard place.

Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:24 AM

JOHNNYREB


I'm in the middle of a script that may or may not fly. I'd like some feedback when I'm done. I know! The BLUE SUN ROOM! When I'm done, I will post it there and let everyone know via this thread. I will be open to suggestions.

Viva Firefly!

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:30 AM

STILLSHINY


Sounds shiny JohnnyReb!

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:52 AM

MANIACNUMBERONE


I think Sarahetc hit on the right idea. Unless we are willing (which I doubt) to have a different browncoat in a different area of the country perform each different voice of the cast, then send those pieces to one person, so they could be put together, we will have to use another method. We wil need a narrator. Someone to tie it all together. Someone to do most of the voices, perhaps getting people near them to come in and do a few voices. It seems only natural that the author also be the narrator - to retain the trueness of the script.
Of course, there is no reason that multiple projects can't go on. Let's see which format we like best. Maybe we can get a whole, great-big, Firefly-radio-drama library. Shiny.

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:11 AM

STILLSHINY


I sent a message to one of the fan-fic authors, we'll see what happens.

Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:58 AM

SERENITYVALLEY


Great-big Firefly-radio-drama library, hehe!

I think in all fairness to people who live far apart from each other and since so many people want to be involved, that one person does one character, but obviously it doesn't have to go that way. Look at the Simpsons, but you know, since so many people...

I'm a writer. I write constantly. Firefly is my favorite TV show in the whole wide world. It only seems natural that I would jump on this opportunity to help write a script...except I'm a bit afraid to. I'm afraid it will flop. I've tried a FF fanfic once...it was dumb, but then again, it was a picture book, so whatever. I guess I don't feel I am worthy enough to tamper with such a masterpiece and can't get my brain to take free range of the territory. The boarders of the plot and characters nag at me. Anyway, I will think about it and see if I can come to grips with reality.

http://www.simple-assault.com/Firefly.htm

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:51 PM

JOHNNYREB


Quote:

Originally posted by SerenityValley:

...except I'm a bit afraid to. I'm afraid it will flop. I've tried a FF fanfic once...it was dumb, but then again, it was a picture book, so whatever. I guess I don't feel I am worthy enough to tamper with such a masterpiece and can't get my brain to take free range of the territory.



That's the very attitude that gave me writer's block! That's the source of my procrastination! But I figured, if not me, who? Just do your best and see how it goes. You may surprise yourself. Your work may be picked for the script. Besides, if mine sucks as bad as I fear, Dug is going to need a plan B.

Viva Firefly!

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:06 PM

SERENITYVALLEY


Thanks.

Ok, I was telling my dad about this thing and before I could even finish my sentence he goes "OOO!" You see, he's always wanted to be one of those "radio voice" people because he can make all different sort of voices. So I asked him if he wanted to tryout or whatever and he said he would try if I showed him the characters. So I put in "War Stories" and he was listening to the voices, studying them real hard. He said Book has a very laid back voice and that Simon is "windy". He said that no one really has a very distinctive voice and that he would prefer to do a non-main character b/c they are more interesting. As it turns out he can do a pretty good Niska. I put in Shindig and had him listen to Badger's British w/ hint of american southern-ish accent and all and he said Badger has the most distinctive and interesting voice and that he would like to do him. So if anyone can write a Badger part, that'd be shiny. He said leave the main characters to the true die hard fans (aka you guys, not him). So yeah, that's it.

http://www.simple-assault.com/Firefly.htm

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:36 PM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.


Is there a reason why we can't do 'Dead or Alive?'

http://www.fireflyfans.net/feature.asp?f=45

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:47 PM

JOHNNYREB


I think someone suggested we just do a 10-15 minute thing to get started and get our feet wet. We could do "Dead or Alive," but I'll keep writing my script, just in case it's needed.

Viva Firefly!

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Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:53 PM

SERENITYVALLEY


Erm, I just wrote a story (yeah, that was fast). I put it in the Blue Sun Room.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=264

It's called Behind the Wall and it should be about 12 minutes long. It wrote it in radio-screen-play format so it's in play format but it doesn't describe visuals or anything, but nothing is lost without them, you see? If you want to use it you can. If you don't like it, that's okay too. It was a spur of the moment thing.

http://www.simple-assault.com/Firefly.htm

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