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Concerning so called 'Space Westerns', does anyone here have a fondness for OUTLAND?

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Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:20 PM

CHRISISALL


High Noon in space, remember?
I love that flick, it was the first real 'grunge sci-fi', just before Blade Runner.
If only the great Jerry Goldsmith had seen fit to add a western twang to the music, Firefly might have had an easier time of it, eh?

Chrisisall, the only sheriff on Io

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:15 AM

J6NGO1977


Yeh I love Outland. Sean Connery is cool in that. It is very gritty and also has an 'Alien' quality to it. The spacesuits look like the same props used in Alien and it has the same claustraphobic feel .

It builds up really tense to the 'gunfight at the OK coral' at the end. Very good Sci-Fi. A classic

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:34 AM

CHRISISALL


I actually had been talkin' about it earlier in the day, and then watched it again last night, and a few things popped into my head...
The shuttle from the space station was flashing 'EARLY'.
The man tryin' to kill the hero in the end was a black guy in a spacesuit, who ended up flying into oblivion.

Haven't seen it since I started watching Firefly, these things seemed like more than coincidence, or is it just me....?

Chrisisall, an object

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:35 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Yeah it's a classic.

Nice and dark too. I remember watching it when I was really young. I hadn't a clue why those miners where freaking out! I was expecting some big monster to come outa the shadows!

....oh it was a metaphor.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:57 AM

CHRISISALL


I take it you haven't seen it in a while then...

Pretty impressive what nothing can do to a man Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:05 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Yeah It must be going on twenty or so years I reckon... there or there abouts.

When did it come out 83,84?

On recall I can see it was about so much more, and I remember reading somewhere it was a High noon remake in space, much like Forbidden Planet was a The Tempest remake in space.

It was maybe the first film I saw Connery where he wasn't James Bond and as a kid the whole thing just was too much for my tiny brain :D that and the drug metaphors left me out in the cold... But as I recall the space walking stuff was pretty well done.

Was it a Peter Hyams film? I like his stuff. Capricorn One.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:48 AM

CHRISISALL


It came out in 84, along with Dune, Ghostbusters, Terminator, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, and Airwolf...WHAT A YEAR!!
Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Was it a Peter Hyams film? I like his stuff. Capricorn One.


Yep, and 2010:the Year We Make Contact, Timecop, Running Scared...er, his most recent flicks just ain't up to par,I'm afraid (The Musketeer, End of Days )

What about the Outland/Objects in Space connection? Am I just stretchin' like Reed Richards?

Well, here I am... Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:54 AM

PDCHARLES

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I though Outland was earlier than '84.

I do see a connection here, I'll go back and watch it one of these days and see if I can find more.



U gonna be smart here Riva?!?

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:01 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Big 'C'....Dood it's like we were separated at birth or summit.

....Beverly Hills Cop, Amadeus, A nightmare on Elm Street and Romancing the Stone! The A-Team, The Fall Guy, Scarecrow and Mrs King!!!!

84 was a heck of a year!!!

Now you've really piqued my interest with this Objects in Space connection! I have to re-watch outland. I just can't remember it well enough to comment :(

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:13 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by pdcharles:
I though Outland was earlier than '84.


OMG!! Sombnamulist threw me the'84 ball, and I ran with it!!! (84 was such a cool year!!)
You're right, pdcharles, Outland was '81!
I just had so much '84 stuff in my head, it all leaked out,lol.

Visitin' the past Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:22 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
84 was a heck of a year!!!


And Miami Vice!
And I met my wife that year!!!

Alas, the American DVD of Outland is go-se, the non-anamorphic widescreen is jumpy due to the poor transfer, and the full-screen is a mite pixel-y (although entirely watchable), you Brits no doubt have an anamorphic and beautiful R2 dvd at your disposal...

And anamorphic Dark Angel...Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:18 AM

CITIZEN


I love outland. I believe Aliens was mentioned somewhere, and I have heard that it 'unofficially' takes place in the Aliens universe, though how true that is I don't know.

'81 huh, year of my Birth...



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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:08 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
'81 huh, year of my Birth...


Baby.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:53 AM

BLUESUNCORPORATEGOON


wow,i'm an 81 too.
when i was younger,my dad expressly forbid me to watch that movie,he had it on vhs,i've still yet to see it.
i completely forgot about that movie until yous brought it up.

I'll be in my bunk.-Jayne

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:04 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Baby.

Obi-Wan Chrisisall


Ahh, shutit grandad



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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:08 AM

JAYRO


How weird.

I was trawling through HMV just yesterday, and happened upon a copy of Outland in there. I remembered watching it years back, and it occurred to me that it shared some common ground with our Firefly, coming from that whole 'space-western' sub-genre. Never even thought about it before. So I bought it to watch again at a later date.

I log on today, and spot this thread. Spoo-kee!

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:07 PM

CHRISISALL


HMV...in the UK I guess?
Is your copy anamorphic? I bet it is. You UK peeps always get the best lookin' dvd's (if a little late)

Grownups have no sense of humour Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:42 PM

SUBTORPMAN


I remember Outland, loved it too. Don't see it much on the movie cable Channels but I record and watch it every time its scheduled. Never thought about it but now that you mention it, it was like the town Sheriff standing up to the outlaw gang coming in to kill him off.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:22 PM

REGINAROADIE


I've never actually seen OUTLANDER, but when I saw this thread, mymind flashed to CHILDREN OF THE CORN and the famous "Outlander" quote, which was used in SOUTH PARK.

"Outlander!! We have your woman. Her blood will spill, outlander. Outlander!!"

Oddly enough, I think if FIREFLY had continued, they would have found a way to use that phrase mroe or less.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

"YES!!!I'm a man posessed by many demons....Polite demons that would open the door for a lady carrying too many parcels...BUT DEMONS NONETHELESS!!!! Yes. I have walked along the path of evil many times, it's a twisting, curving path that..actually leads to a charming plot garden, BUT BEYOND THAT EVIL!!!"

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:21 PM

AERIN


Never seen it or heard of it, but now I definitely have to check it out.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:53 PM

BLAZESOLO


One Shiny movie. Although having Sir Connery in it didn't hurt it. Loved it then and love it now!!!!!

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Sunday, January 29, 2006 8:42 AM

TALLGRRL


OUTLAND is one of my favourite movies.
High Noon in Space? Absolutely.
But I think the term "western" doesn't fit for it, nor does it actually fit for Firefly.
"Western" denotes going West. Where the "undiscovered" (ask any Native American about that term) frontier was.
I would rather see it called a Frontier movie, rather than a "Space Western".
There is no "West" in space.


"Take me, sir. Take me hard." -- Zoe

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Sunday, January 29, 2006 4:10 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Tallgrrl:

I would rather see it called a Frontier movie, rather than a "Space Western".
There is no "West" in space.

I can hold with that.

My men are sh*t Chrisisall

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Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:06 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Aerin:
Never seen it or heard of it, but now I definitely have to check it out.

Okay, you had four months, have ya seen it?

Impatient Chrisisall

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Sunday, May 28, 2006 4:19 PM

J6NGO1977


You guys are Sci FI geeks and you have never seen Outland ??????????????

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Sunday, May 28, 2006 4:21 PM

J6NGO1977


LMAO Chris. I can't understand why they aint seen iy. LOL

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Sunday, May 28, 2006 4:25 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by j6ngo1977:
You guys are Sci FI geeks and you have never seen Outland ??????????????



Cut 'em some slack. 'Taint always easy to seperate the classics from the dreck in a genre such as ours. And Outland is a fairly old flick so not necesarilly the eaisiest to find at MegaLargeRentalStoreChain.

David

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Monday, May 29, 2006 12:31 PM

J6NGO1977


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
I love outland. I believe Aliens was mentioned somewhere, and I have heard that it 'unofficially' takes place in the Aliens universe, though how true that is I don't know.




Yeh Citz look at the props in Outland. I am sure they are Alien props. Especially the spacesuits. It also has that same feel as Alien. Aliens was 1982 and I also read (Starburst) that it was set in the same universe.

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Monday, May 29, 2006 1:10 PM

CITIZEN


Alien was 1979, Aliens was 1986.

More Sci-Fi shows should be based in that universe, it's so incredibly rich and detailed and there's so much to explore...



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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 5:47 PM

AERIN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Aerin:
Never seen it or heard of it, but now I definitely have to check it out.

Okay, you had four months, have ya seen it?

Impatient Chrisisall



Oh, I am so busted! The reminder was a good idea. It's going on my list. When is my assignment due? I'm a bit of a procrastinator.

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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:12 PM

VINTERDRAKEN


Really have to say I love Outland. Excellent movie. Going to buy it on DvD next month

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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:12 PM

VINTERDRAKEN


Really have to say I love Outland. Excellent movie. Going to buy it on DvD next month

You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:12 PM

VINTERDRAKEN


Really have to say I love Outland. Excellent movie. Going to buy it on DvD next month

You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:12 PM

VINTERDRAKEN


Really have to say I love Outland. Excellent movie. Going to buy it on DvD next month

You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:12 PM

VINTERDRAKEN


Really have to say I love Outland. Excellent movie. Going to buy it on DvD next month

You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:12 PM

VINTERDRAKEN


Really have to say I love Outland. Excellent movie. Going to buy it on DvD next month

You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

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Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:49 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

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When is my assignment due? I'm a bit of a procrastinator.

It was due last Tuesday.
I'll give you an extention.

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Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:55 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Vinterdraken:
Really have to say I love Outland. Excellent movie. Going to buy it on DvD next month



Warning! The Warner DVD is flawed.
The widescreen anamorphic side was lifted off the older laserdisc, but the timing (you know, the frame-thing) was off, and results in a 'jitter' every few seconds for the WHOLE movie!!!
The full frame side, however, is newly re-mastered, and plays just fine. I'm no fan of full frame when anamorphic widescreen is available, but this will have to do until Warner gets off their ass and gives us a better transfer.
The film was shot very wide for the most part, so full frame actually doesn't mess it up that bad....

Technical Chrisisall

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Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:15 PM

PEULSAR5

We sniff the air, we don't kiss the dirt.


This is quite a coincidence--I actually watched it last night. It's one of my "guilty pleasure" movies that gets blank looks from people when I mention it.

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Thursday, June 1, 2006 7:10 AM

CHRISISALL


Did you watch it on DVD?

Note: It was edited by Stuart Baird, the master that edited Superman: The Movie, Lethal Weapon 1 & 2, Last Boyscout, Die Hard 2, and Demolition Man, among many others.

Music was by Jerry Goldsmith, who did Planet Of The Apes, Total Recall, Alien, The Omen and Supergirl, among many, many others.

Film fact Chrisisall

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Thursday, June 1, 2006 2:15 PM

PEULSAR5

We sniff the air, we don't kiss the dirt.


Yep, watched it on DVD. My copied VHS version was SO crappy, the DVD is a huge improvement.

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Friday, June 2, 2006 8:42 AM

CHRISISALL


So, you watched the full-screen, I presume...?
Or could you deal with the widescreen flutter?

You're playing with grown-ups Chrisisall

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Friday, June 2, 2006 1:16 PM

J6NGO1977


I can't even find the film on DVD. WHich surprises me because it is worthy of a special edition, digital remaster edition. Even just for the fact Sean Connery puts out a great performance

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Friday, June 2, 2006 5:03 PM

CHRISISALL


I got it for ten bucks at Circuit City. You must be able to get it online, Amazon, maybe?

Yario Chrisisall

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