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POSTED BY: BOBKNAPTOR
UPDATED: Saturday, February 15, 2003 22:12
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Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:03 AM

BOBKNAPTOR


Just saw an Ad for "Final Destination...2"...
um.... the First one was called Final Destination... because it was the FINAL destination. How can they make a sequel?

Makes me think of the stupid movie "Airheads"...
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The Lone Rangers? There's three of you. You're not exactly LONE.


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That was the worst attempted pig slaughter I've ever seen.



edit: Bob can't spell. Never could. sorry. I need spell-check.

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:57 PM

DELVO


We're also getting a Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines even though the machines were PREVENTED from rising in T2...

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:08 PM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.


Quote:

Originally posted by bobknaptor:
the First one was called Final Destination... because it was the FINAL destination. How can they make a sequel?



From what I remember of the first 'Final Destination' written by Glenn Morgan & James Wong (X-Files, Millenium, Space: Above & Beyond), the first movie was a surprise success at the box office (because it was actually good), so much so that the studio wanted to make a sequel. But Morgan and Wong refused because as far as they were concerned, the story they wanted to tell was told--end of story. Of course, the studio didn't listen, so they went ahead without Morgan and Wong and began making Final Destination 2.

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:35 PM

SLOWSMURF


Based on the previews, its just an exact copy basically?

I mean, no new concept, just another 4(or however many, I forget, been a while) idiots avoid disaster and many many freak accidents?

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Friday, January 31, 2003 3:42 AM

MALSABOR


The original Terminator was supposed to end it, since he was crushed. A sequel was created by having a chip and an arm survive that, so they could find something to use for a third movie. I'm thinking it's the arm torn off by the giant gears near the end of T2.

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Friday, January 31, 2003 7:11 PM

DELVO


But the arm doesn't contain the brain chip, just some moving parts. The brain chip is what caused it all. And also, the time displacement equipment was destroyed. They never explained how ANY Terminators got through a second time... OK, so maybe there were two prototypes and the second movie's Terminators were sent through the other one before the humans destroyed it too, since they had won the war and had nothing left to do but destroy leftover installations. But a THIRD one? And still more years of Terminator development despite the regime of the machines having been thwarted?

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Friday, January 31, 2003 7:31 PM

LIVINGIMPAIRED


Well, the problem with many sequels is that they originate from some guy saying: "Hey, I have a great idea. Let's make a sequel to blah, blah!" Whereas the situation should be: "Hey, I have a great idea for a sequel to blah, blah!"

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 2:52 AM

MALSABOR


Or even better, "I have a great new idea!". But those aren't guaranteed hits.

About the Terminator's arm: It was important enough for Cyberdyne (sp?) to keep around along with the chip, so I'm thinking it was advanced enough to help in their research. And as for there being more terminators after the first movie, I thought the idea was that the future of the timeline had been shifted by the events of the first movie, but not enough to avoid the war. (I don't recall Cyberdyne even being mentioned in the first movie, though it's been a while.) However, as you said, they never truly explained it, choosing to leave it open to interpretation (and multiple needless sequels) instead.

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Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:12 PM

STOPCALLINGMESHIRLEY


And here I thought I had been around sci-fi long enough to never be creeped out by this sort of thing, but looking at all the Terminator talk and never having seen the movie, I think I finally get an idea of why people are scared of trekkies, buffy fans, and other obsessive people who watch just way too much TV.

Feeling this out of the loop leaves me in a mood to quote Buffy, or, more precisely, Jonathan-as-the-First: "What kind of a geek are you?"

You are strange and offputting.

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Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:12 PM

JONSP


Quote:

Originally posted by Delvo:
They never explained how ANY Terminators got through a second time... OK, so maybe there were two prototypes and the second movie's Terminators were sent through the other one before the humans destroyed it too, since they had won the war and had nothing left to do but destroy leftover installations.



Actually, if I remember correctly, they explained it quick, brief, and simple (which is the best way to do it): they just said that Skynet had actually sent back two Terminators. So there was no second time and no need for a second time travel thingee. The two bad Terms were sent back at the same time, one to kill John, one to kill Sarah, then the humans stormed the place, sent Kyle back to save Sarah, sent the modified T800 back to save John, and then blew the equipment.

That's not bad in the inconsistency department -- doesn't contradict anything said in the first movie, just hopes you'll accept that some things weren't said, which as an eager and willing viewer, I of course did. But to edit two more Terminators into the storyline for a third movie? Ehhhh ... My hopes aren't high.

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