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I'm late I know - but I have to ask

POSTED BY: PROTEON
UPDATED: Saturday, September 17, 2005 17:30
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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:15 AM

PROTEON


I'm late to all this but there have to be more like me out there - who didn't see the show, don't remember it, aren't major Joss Wheddon fans and someone said "hey watch some of this DVD I bought of a series Fox cancelled in it's first year". I went from being skeptical about another "space drama" to absolutely dreading watching the last episode. Now what? What are the chances that if the movie makes some good money that someone else - maybe SciFi will go back to Wheddon et al. and say "start it back up" - I don't know of another show that ever did this, but it seems possible - is there any reason to hope?

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:38 AM

PROTEON


Sorry to bump my own thread (won't do it again) but I have minimal experience foruming and I imagine the regulars are tsk tsk tsking because I'm the millionth person to barge in and ask this - but if there is an existing thread where all this is gone over (the possibility of the show being resurected if the movie does well) a kind link would be appreciated. Many thanks.

Shortest Fairy Tale Ever:

Once upon a time a man asked a woman to marry him. She said no and they both lived happily ever after.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:52 AM

NIKNAK


The general consensus is that if^H^H when the film is successful they will make more films rather than go back to TV.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:54 AM

SERENITYPUNK


*takes a deep breath*

as of now Fox still own the rights to the tv show, and joss will not go back to fox

but if the movie does well there will be more

he has also said he wont rule out going back to tv if it meant carrying the story on, but that we should not hold our breaths

but then this is joss whedon we are talking about, and he acheives the impossible lots and lots



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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:01 PM

R1Z


Word is that the entire original cast has signed on the bottom line for 3 movies, if and as financed.

I'd love nothing more than to get a weekly fix of fresh Firefly on the tube, but unless another network waves a huge wad of cash at Fox, it's unlikely given the bad blood between Fox and Joss.

(Sighs)

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:09 PM

PROTEON


I appreciate your responses folks. Movies would be sweet. Fox has the rights to the tv show. Huh. We'll I look real foward to seeing the movie. I'm sure I'm not the only one - or the only who wants to see it do really well. Three movies would be great. Five or six good seasons of the series would be killer. I'm still not sure what it is about the show that so gets under the skin. It just hits all the right notes somehow.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:44 PM

EMBERS


personally I don't think it is unreasonable to hope,
it is highly unlikely...
but a successful film can do a lot to change a situtaiton.
Fox has rights and contracts, which can disappeare in return for money...
nothing is ever impossible.

Most likely : triology of movies (but that could take a long time)
also REALLY likely : more comic books (takes less time)
unlikely : a new TV show

Joss has also thrown out ideas about wood cuts
or operas
or some kind of shadow puppet theater??

You Can't Stop the Signal!
(LOL)


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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:51 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


As has happened in the past, people continue to confuse the Fox television network with 20th Century Fox Film studios. It is 20th that produced the show and retains the rights to Firefly, not Fox TV. While it is true that Joss would not work for Fox TV again, he has repeatedly said that his relationship with 20th was always good.

But...I think the factor that is the most important to consider here is that Joss disbanded his Mutant Enemy production company. If he ever returns to tv either that company will have to be reformed or another created to replace it.

Only time will tell.




wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:23 PM

EMBERS


Yeah, ecgordon, I do know that...
that is why I don't take into account Serenitypunk's statement:
Quote:

as of now Fox still own the rights to the tv show, and joss will not go back to fox


I believe that if 20th Century Fox film studios who produced the show (and are frequently refered to by simply saying 'Fox') wanted to review the contract that Joss could easily slap together a new production company or revive Mutant Enemy.

I think Joss might resist airing a future show on Fox Television, but his other shows were also produced by 20th Century Fox etc etc and were aired on The WB and UPN..he was actually pretty happy with those relationships (he may have been unhappy about having the rug pulled out from under Ats, but the guy who made that decision has left The WB anyway).

At any rate it is ridiculous to speculate...
the powers that be don't even know themselves what they will do from one year to the next.

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Wednesday, August 31, 2005 3:13 AM

PIZMOBEACH

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Quote:

Originally posted by Proteon:
... I'm still not sure what it is about the show that so gets under the skin...



I know what you mean, that's the exact feeling I had - almost a sense of disbelief that a show could take me in so completely. It's still a mystery to me.
At one time I wanted to start a thread asking if their were any pys/phys reading that might talk intelligently about "obsession" (the good kind ), but then I thought fans probably don't want to have their passions disected, takes the fun out of it.

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Wednesday, August 31, 2005 3:28 AM

JUMPY


I'm kind of surprised that Family Guy got uncancelled, I'm guessing due to the great DVD sales and fan-support, and yet FOX hasn't offered a return for firefly. As far as I can see there's a huge amount of fan presence for firefly. What gives?

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Wednesday, August 31, 2005 3:39 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by Jumpy:
I'm kind of surprised that Family Guy got uncancelled, I'm guessing due to the great DVD sales and fan-support, and yet FOX hasn't offered a return for firefly. As far as I can see there's a huge amount of fan presence for firefly. What gives?


I'd guess that no one that might be a "player" in Firefly's future is going to do anything until after they see how well the movie does.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:57 AM

PROTEON


That rocks -that those folks are holding out to see how the movie does.

Before I saw the whole series I saw the trailer for Serenity and thought (man that's one of those trailers which just about shows you the whole movie) - then watched the whole series in two days and now I dont' want to see the trailer at all - I just want to enjoy it from beginning to end. How thrilled must these actors have been to reprise their roles.

I think maybe part of why the show is so strong is because it does exactly what you think it won't time and again. In Heart Of Gold when Inara and Mal speak after she finds out that Mal slept with her friend I turned to my pal and said "you know, that Inara only has like one mode; uptight and commandin..." cut to her bawling her eyes out - as if on cue. 10 episodes deep I was still surprised. I dont' beleive my contribution to this thread today is really on topic. You'll forgive me.

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Friday, September 2, 2005 3:03 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


As Greg Edmonson said during a podcast interview, Firefly is too good for t.v. After seeing the DVD several times over, and SERENITY a couple of times.... he's right. Don't know how else to put it.


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Friday, September 2, 2005 3:06 AM

PROTEON


Too good for tv - I beleive that.

Now I have to ask this - how is it that so many people have seen Serenity the movie?

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Friday, September 2, 2005 3:11 AM

CALLMESERENITY


Quote:

Originally posted by Proteon:

Shortest Fairy Tale Ever:

Once upon a time a man asked a woman to marry him. She said no and they both lived happily ever after.



Wow. That's happened to me twice. Not so sure about the happily ever after part, though. Still working on that.

Hi! Welcome!

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Friday, September 2, 2005 5:31 AM

PROTEON


Yeah happily ever after lol!

None of it means a damn thing.

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Friday, September 2, 2005 5:42 AM

CALLMESERENITY


Wow, that's not a very optimistic outlook on life.

I did go to a screening in June of Serenity. But I won't tell you a dang thing about it except that it was INCREDIBLE and that River is made of chocolate (oh no! I gave away the ending!)



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Friday, September 2, 2005 6:40 AM

PROTEON


I can't wait until 9/30. I hope this isn't going to be one of these limited release affairs where I have to drive two states to see it.

I would, mind you.

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Saturday, September 17, 2005 3:06 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Proteon:
Too good for tv - I beleive that.

Now I have to ask this - how is it that so many people have seen Serenity the movie?



There's been several early screenings this summer, in 10, 20 and then 35(?) cities. Here in Atlanta, there were at least 3 ( I think ). And that's not counting the special showings in Scotland and Australia... Then there was a PREVIEW right before Labor Day. Where as the screening was sort of a test run for the movie, still lacking some FX and musical scoring, the Preview was the actual movie, all finished and as it will be seen come Sept. 30th.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, September 17, 2005 5:30 PM

STAKETHELURK


As others have said, there is virtually no hope of Firefly returning to TV and much is riding on the outcome of "Serenity."

However, I read on the Whedonesque forums that during his recent tour of Australia, Whedon said that if the trilogy happens he'd be interested in subsequently returning to TV with a Firefly spin-off series involving one or two of the main cast. So, that puts an extra importance on "Serenity's" success. We will never get Firefly back, but the verse may fly across the small screen again at some date--if the movie does well.

Quote:

I hope this isn't going to be one of these limited release affairs where I have to drive two states to see it.


As "Serenity" is a $40 million film, it wouldn't make any money on a limited release. I think they've got at least 2000 screens in US on opening weekend, so you should hopefully have no problem finding it.

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