FIREFLY EPISODE DISCUSSIONS

Out of gas

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Monday, November 3, 2003 4:28 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


Just watching Out of Gas again up here in Canada.

One of my favorites

Somebody should be given awards for the camera work, lighting and sound for this one,

brought tears to my eyes over and over again...

" Thats not fair !!!!
I didn't even have a soul when I did that!"

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Monday, November 3, 2003 8:58 PM

SERGEANTX


Oh yeah.. absolutely.

The directing on this one was just amazing. Its such a fine balance when they start playing with the narrative like that, flashbacks within flashback, starting the story right before the climax. But Minear pulls it off brilliantly. I was never once confused and enjoyed every minute. To use such an intense situation to wax sentimental, building up characters' stories even as they may be coming to an end..... and the 'vintage' footage was a great touch too. I hope Joss has Tim onboard for the movie. They're a damn fine team.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 7:11 AM

JAKE7


Too wild! I was watching that episode here in the States!

Popped in my tape and that's the episode that was ready to go!

This episode was done so well! You alternately get to have good times with the crew and then have your heart almost torn out of your chest!

The first time I saw this episode, I was welling up when Mal collapsed before being able to hit the button to call back the shuttles.

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MAL: Everybody's makin' a fuss.

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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 7:31 AM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by jake7:

The first time I saw this episode, I was welling up when Mal collapsed before being able to hit the button to call back the shuttles.



Totally. And the part where he drops the catalyzer because everything is so slick with blood? My heart skipped a beat. It's the kind of thing that in any other show you'd see coming. But they'd made everything so emotional and so draining to that point that when he does drop it, your stomach just lurches over.

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 8:44 AM

MANIACNUMBERONE


Y'all are so right. This is an extremely emotional episode for me as well. I always trip out on Mal's priorities after he gets the catalyzer. I have said it before and I think it's worth repeating... he should have called back the crew before fixing the engine.
I need to go watch this episode again now... right now!!

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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 9:37 AM

MANIACNUMBERONE


I think the funniest part of OOG is Wash's mustache. That furry abomination looks like a small rodent died on his upper lip.... and he seems so pleased about himself, which makes it all the funnier.

I always liked this episode as the culmination of the compression coil subplot. (So have others) In the Pilot episode, Kaylee tells Mal that they need a new compression coil. If it busts she says, they are floating. He responds by saying lets not bust it then.
In the Train Job, Mal confronts Kaylee with the state of the engine room (space monkeys, terrifying space monkeys) and she responds by saying that if he would replace the compression coil she wouldn't have to rewire the grav thrust due to the lousy compression coil.
Then, of course, in Out of Gas, the catalyzer blows on the port compression coil, and like Kaylee said, they were dead in the water.
Then Kaylee (wrongly) takes the blame and apologizes to Mal for not taking better care of the engine. Madness I say!
As a fun side note, the new catalyzer that Mal eventually fits into the engine is the same piece that Wash throws at the salvage shuttle in the dump in Ariel. Also, this is most likely a storyline of Tim Minnear, may he live forever.

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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 12:52 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


This was about the tenth time I watched this one... okay 30 or so. Anyway once Zoe was out of play, didn't Jayne seem to jump in and pick up the slack quite well.
From following Mals order to close off the area of the ship with fire, Jayne then ( from the conversation with Kaylee and Mal ) does some work assessing the life support system. After it is decided Mal is staying behind ( a sad but great scene ) he sets all the vents to take whatever air is left to the cockpit, and preps a suit for Mal, for when the time comes.

I think Jayne is a hell of an interesting character, I can't wait to see how they use him in the movie !!!!

" Thats not fair !!!!
I didn't even have a soul when I did that!"

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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 12:58 PM

JAKE7


Quote:

Originally posted by Sarahetc:
Totally. And the part where he drops the catalyzer because everything is so slick with blood? My heart skipped a beat. It's the kind of thing that in any other show you'd see coming. But they'd made everything so emotional and so draining to that point that when he does drop it, your stomach just lurches over.



Yeah, that too! The whole thing is just a roller coaster of emotions! Just when you think it can't get worse, it does, and then they turn it around and the impossible happens!

GORRAM FOX FOR TAKING AWAY THIS SHOW!!
Hooray for Universal for making the movie!!

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MAL: Everybody's makin' a fuss.

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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 1:06 PM

STILLSHINY


One of my top favorites.

Just digs ya deeper & deeper into the characters. Too many favorite scens to even think of. I think it was an artistic masterpiece. It really had a family feel at the end. I love it when mal says genius mechanic and Bester walks by. You can hear the "Newcomers" jaws drop!

You think I look good now, wait till you see me in my new "Browncoat T-shirt"

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Wednesday, November 5, 2003 1:40 AM

DRAKON


I'll give Mal a pass on this one. I suspect being gut shot might interfere with one's judgement a might. Plus there is the case that the engineroom is closer to the med bay.

THis is my favorite episode, as it not only shows background for Jayne, Inara and Wash, but Serenity as well.

"You buy this ship, treat her right, she'll be with you till the day you die." What more can you ask from a ship?

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Wednesday, November 5, 2003 4:24 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


Quote:

Originally posted by Drakon:

"You buy this ship, treat her right, she'll be with you till the day you die." What more can you ask from a ship?



" Thats because its a deathtrap sir "

Great Line !!!!!

" Thats not fair !!!!
I didn't even have a soul when I did that!"

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Wednesday, November 5, 2003 5:53 PM

DYAIRVATREE


This is with out a doubt the best Firefly episode.

That said I was wondering can you help me out about one thing. You see in the end Mal says to Wash "you got a thing in your arm" Wash says "yeah" why does Wash have a thing in his arm?

The only thing I can think of is Wash must have gave a blood transfusion to Mal. Is that why Wash has a thing in his arm? Or is it something I missed. Any way if you know please explain why Wash has a thing in his arm at the end of the episiode,because I don't know.

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Wednesday, November 5, 2003 5:59 PM

KASUO


Quote:

Originally posted by dyairvatree:
The only thing I can think of is Wash must have gave a blood transfusion to Mal. Is that why Wash has a thing in his arm?



Correct.

I'm going to also chime in and add to the "I love this episode" crowd. This is my favorite episode next to Ariel.


"Let's moon 'em!"

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Wednesday, November 5, 2003 7:30 PM

JK


Sorry, my favourite bit comes just after the intro credits. We're back on the floor with Mal-the-recently-shot, and he hauls himself to his feet. And Mal lets out a little whimper.

Sounds like nothing, but hoo-blody-ray to Nathan Fillion. All too often characters seem to sustain serious wounds and shrug them off. They show manly pain; a grunt and a grimace, and off I go for some more thrilling heroics. But what Nathan gave us there was real. Hats off to the man.

Of course, the rest of the episode is great. But that's my favourite bit.

JK

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Thursday, November 6, 2003 3:53 AM

DRAKON


As I understood it, it was because Wash was giving Mal a transfusion of blood. Okay Simon was doing the actual doctor stuff, but it was Wash's blood. Same blood type, I suppose.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Thursday, November 6, 2003 6:49 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Very much a favorite episode, and two unmentioned points to go with it.

First: they put out the fire by venting it into space, which is the best way to do it.

Second: no bogus sound effects to that scene either, which is must appreciated by folks who know anything about space.

This has gotta be the best episode so far, and I am rather fond of War Stories as a close second, because in that episode they come together as a *unified* crew, all singularly focused on one goal, the rescue of their captain.

The torture scene was classic too, gallows humor at it's very finest.

-frem
diefxudie

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Thursday, November 6, 2003 7:34 AM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Second: no bogus sound effects to that scene either, which is must appreciated by folks who know anything about space.



Totally. And the contrast there is remarkable. The fire creates chaos and sets off alarms, so we as viewers watch those scenes where everyone is talking and yelling and we can just barely hear them over the klaxons. There's actually a cut to Mal pressing buttons before the klaxons cut out-- again another detail that illustrates Firefly's superiority to most other television programming.

And then, to go from klaxons and chaos and the ship speaking to hearing the whoosh of the airlock and the tumble of the ship trying to adjust to the vacuum and then out to nothingness is so extraordinary. It goes by so quickly and is so extraordinary.

Quote:


This has gotta be the best episode so far, and I am rather fond of War Stories as a close second, because in that episode they come together as a *unified* crew, all singularly focused on one goal, the rescue of their captain.

The torture scene was classic too, gallows humor at it's very finest.



And their pilot! Don't forget about him. War Stories is my favorite episode for those reasons and so many more. Neither of them pull any punches and War Stories has the same visceral pacing that Out of Gas does.


I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:29 AM

MALICIOUS


This and Objects in Space are my most liked eps.

Forgive me for reviving this thread, but I just watched OOG again with the subtitles on. At the end, when Mal is waking up in the infirmary listening to random mutterings, Inara and Jayne are speaking off camera. Inara says, "I think we should show it to him when he wakes up." and Jayne says, "He's seen blood before, a lot of it." Are they referring to Mal's blood from his gunshot wound? Or is there some other blood that is unexplained? If so, whose blood is it? Or am I just being too picky?

Mal-licious

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 3:30 PM

JABBERWOCKER


The music that begins as inara and the rest board the shuttles...camera pans across cargo bay to find Mal...standing...alone...and then CUT TO: Serenity dead in space (flotsam and jetsam floating around her) as the shuttles break off and fly into the vacuum...The music begins to climb and swell...the guitar kicks in..ever so delicately as Mal walks through the kitchen (the heart and soul of the home) sealing the ship behind him, and finaly, as he takes the blanket from the locker, wraps it around him and settles into the pilot's chair..to perhaps slip away into death and the MUSIC god the MUSIC hits the highwater mark...
I have watched that scene repeatedly over and over and i just get chills. It's one of the most beautiful sequences i have ever seen in a made for television production.

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 7:31 AM

TEDC


On a completely different note...

This episode reveals a side of Kaylee that I had not previously even suspected to exist.

"Burn the land and boil the sea, still can't keep the sky from me."

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