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best non-comedic lines

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UPDATED: Friday, May 13, 2005 22:41
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Friday, May 6, 2005 2:40 AM

EST120


okay, we all have our favorite quote from the shows we spend so much time discussing here. most of the quotes i have seen on people's signatures and such are goofy comedic sorts of lines. "i was cool before i met y'all" or "i am a large, semi muscular man" (one of my personal favorites). not all are comedic like that, but most. my question is what is your favorite serious or nasty or really cold line? not funny, but a line that made you think "ooo, that was mean." or "i cannot believe he/she just said that."

i have a couple of them but the first one that comes to mind for me:

angel, season 4 from habeas corpses
lilah: you’re never going to get anything but gray. and i don’t see your texas gal-pal wearing that color. come to think of it, she prefers black.

anyone else feel that draft?


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Friday, May 6, 2005 3:38 AM

THALOS


Mine has to be at the end of "The Train Job" when the sherriff confronts Mal about the medicine and says he understands how a man learns all the truth of a situation and he then has a choice and Mal's response:

Malcolm Reynolds: "No, I don't believe he does."

Really shows you the character behind the man.

"Whoa, good Bible."

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Friday, May 6, 2005 3:59 AM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1


Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep?
Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.
Simon: Are you always this sentimental?
Mal: Had a good day.
Simon: You had the Alliance on you, criminals and savages... half the people on the ship have been shot or wounded including yourself, and you're harboring known fugitives.
Mal: We're still flying.
Simon: That's not much.
Mal: It's enough.

well... the first line of it is funny as hell, but the rest i've taken very seriously...and the last three lines seem to describe browncoats and the entire series perfectly.



~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Friday, May 6, 2005 4:06 AM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.


The lines I use in my sig are, I think fairly indicative of Simon, his relationship to Kaylee, and how he has chosen to cope and live in the environment he finds himself in.

Here's another one from Angel, but its in spoiler mode, as its from the series finale:

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When Lorne tells Angel he'll do what asked of him, but tells Angel that he's not coming back, I thought that showed just how loyal a friend Lorne was, and just how disgusted that Angel was using him this way.



And, let's see, over in Buffy...Giles was my favorite character over there, and his concern for Buffy never seemed to get in the way when he felt she needed a dressing down (At times, I felt he was far too hard on Xander.) Revelations, I think the episode was...Between Buffy and Giles, after he discovers that Angel is still alive...His speech about how Buffy has no respect for him or the position he takes in her life...I loved the line, but, man, that was vicious considering he's talking to a what, 17 year old girl?

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Friday, May 6, 2005 4:08 AM

CYBERSNARK


River's line about Simon finding her broken.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

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Friday, May 6, 2005 4:11 AM

EST120


Quote:

Originally posted by manwithpez:
Here's another one from Angel, but its in spoiler mode, as its from the series finale:



that is a good scene. lorne's line is:

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"i'll do this last thing for you. for us, but then i'm out. and you won't find me in the alley afterward. hell, you won't find me at all. do me a favor, don't try."

i am not so sure that lorne was disgusted with how angel was using him, after all, in the previous episode, angel says "i can't order you to do this." but lorne raises his hand at the end, albeit, he is the last to do so and he does so reluctantly but he is not forced to do anything. i think mostly he was just tired of the constant fighting. he never was the fighting type. he says "it's not my kind of work anymore. it's unsavory."


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Friday, May 6, 2005 4:22 AM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.


Wait, wait:

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Just look at how Lorne looked when he shot Lindsay. You could tell he was disappointed with himself, and disappointed with what he had to do. Yes, he volunteered, because he knew Angel was right, and that Lindsay would never see it coming from him, but Lorne, being the funnest, almost the most human of the group, had to sacrifice a part of himself to do that. If you remember way back in Lorne's history on the show, he was hard to intimidate, and rarely backed down when directly threatened. That changed over the course of the show, mostly after they got back from Pylea. Lorne didn't fit in the demon ruled dimension of Pylea, because he didn't want to act like a "demon" or rather, he had dashes of humanity in him. With what he did for Angel, those parts of himself that he considered above his demon "nature" were killed when he actually killed someone for Angel. He didn't agree with it, but he saw the necessity, and I doubt he would have done it for anyone else. My only hope is that after he left this group, he would be able to find "himself" again.



Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Friday, May 6, 2005 4:35 AM

BARNEYT


There are two for me, one's the obvious choice since it's my tag-line! The other is from Safe

"Yeah, but she's our witch, so cut her the hell down"


As a statement of belonging, that one's right up there.


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"I think the right place to start is to say, fair is fair. This is who we are. These are our numbers." Mr Willis of Ohio - The West Wing

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Friday, May 6, 2005 5:32 AM

CANTON


I have two that are sticking out in my head right now.

Simon's monologue when Jayne is on the table in Trash "We could circle each other and growl, sleep with one eye open. . .but that thought wearies me. . ." etc. That whole 4-5 line speech is good.

Also during The Message, Tracy & Mal's dialogue towards the end is very touching.

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:39 AM

HEB


Here are the first ones that come to mind. They're not nasty or cold I'm afraid but pretty serious:

"It's not the demon in me that needs killing Buffy it's the man."

"ZOE
Right, 'cause what this marriage
needs is one more shouting match.

WASH
No, what this marriage needs is one
less husband.
(beat)
Right now it's kind of crowded." (this one I like mainly for it's delivery. How perfect is this whole scene?)

And one from Angel:

"If nothing we do matters then all that matters is what we do"

...................
Well, my sister's a ship... we had a
complicated childhood
.................
I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:43 AM

STATIC


Mal:

It's my estimation that every man ever had a statue made of him was one kind of sumbitch or another.

It ain't about you (Jayne), it's about what they need.

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:51 AM

NIKNAK


I can't believe no-one has yet mentioned River's speech near the end of Objects in Space. Really sad and beautiful; it brought tears to my eyes.

"I'll be your bounty Jubal Early."

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:55 AM

COSMICFUGITIVE


Mal ordering Jayne to leave the table in 'Serenity' comes to mind:

MAL: "Jayne, you will keep a civil tongue in that mouth or I will sew it shut. Is there an understanding?"

JAYNE: "You don't pay me to talk pretty. Just because Kaylee gets lubed up over some big-city--"

MAL: "Walk away from this table. Right now."

The look in Nathan and Adam's eyes during this scene is brilliant. It's awkward and tense and makes me cringe every time I see it.

- Cos.

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:56 AM

NITEFALLS


I loved in "Jaynestown" Jayne's entire speach at the end.

"You took that stick and you...well, you took it. And that's somthin'."

Jayne might be a jerk about 97% of the time, but when he's not...he's a pretty good guy who really gets a thing or two about the 'verse.

As always and in general, nitefalls

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Friday, May 6, 2005 7:27 AM

EST120


Quote:

Originally posted by manwithpez:

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He didn't agree with it, but he saw the necessity, and I doubt he would have done it for anyone else. My only hope is that after he left this group, he would be able to find "himself" again.





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i will give you that lorne was not really pleased with himself for killing lindsay but in my opinion this does not mean he disagrees with it. even though he stresses to lindsay that it was angel's plan, i still believe he was on board with it though he did not want to be the guy who pulled the trigger.



we may just have to agree to disagree.

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Saturday, May 7, 2005 4:08 PM

TADPOLE37


My fave non-comedic one came from Firefly and Angel

Angel, Season 4 WARNING SPOILER

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Gunn: Wes, what the hell happened to you?
Wesley Wyndam-Pryce: I had my throat cut and all my friends abandoned me.



I think it is a deep dialogue because they were best friends and he was tossed like yesterday's garbage.

And from Firefly, the whole scene that was cut from the episode Serenity was a good dialogue. I was sorry it got cut, but it is a very good one.

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"Ha ha ha. Mine is an evil laugh." -- Wash

"For evil to triumph, good men must do nothing." -- some important british guy

"Thank God for Tango Romeo Echo's." -- me

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Saturday, May 7, 2005 5:40 PM

REGINAROADIE


"I would be there right now."

"I got stupid, the money was too good."

"I don't give half a hump whether your innocent or not. So where does that put you?"

"I'm a big girl. I can handle myself."

"Doesn't mean a damn thing."

The internal thoughts that the crew says aloud to River as she wanders the ship in OBJECTS IN SPACE always get me, because it's the honest truth said plainly, but in the context of it all really pack a punch. OIS always stuck with me because it's the ep where we really see River for who she is. We see out of her eyes and how she interprets things and it's scary as hell.

On an interesting side note, Jayne's line of "I got stupid, the money was too good." changes context before and after the DVD release. When it was originally broadcast, without "TRASH", the live was the first real revelation any of the Tam's had of Jayne's betrayal on Ariel, which makes the lines shocking. But with the DVD's inclusion of "Trash" and the great confrontation Between Simon/River and Jayne, the line then becomes muted. It still has that sense of danger, but it now more of re-stating the fact, as well as Jayne actually admitting to River that he fucked up over her.

Out of curiosity, did anyone else notice any other changes of meaning for lines and their contect before and after the DVD set came out with three eps filling in the blanks? And why do some people think that THE MESSAGE was the final ep. The way it was set up on the DVD's, OBJECTS IN SPACE is the final ep of the series, which for me anyways is how it should be since OIS brought everything to as much of a close as possible.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

And wow! Hey! What's this thing suddenly coming towards me very fast? Very very fast. So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding name like ... ow ... ound ... round ... ground! That's it! That's a good name - ground! I wonder if it will be friends with me?

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Saturday, May 7, 2005 7:16 PM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by howdyrockerbaby1:
Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep?
Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.
Simon: Are you always this sentimental?
Mal: Had a good day.
Simon: You had the Alliance on you, criminals and savages... half the people on the ship have been shot or wounded including yourself, and you're harboring known fugitives.
Mal: We're still flying.
Simon: That's not much.
Mal: It's enough....




Yup, that was always my favorite. And if you were around for the torturously mishandled broadcast run... well, that very quote was the last bit of Firefly to air on broadcast television. Very poignant, that.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Saturday, May 7, 2005 8:08 PM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1


Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:

Yup, that was always my favorite. And if you were around for the torturously mishandled broadcast run... well, that very quote was the last bit of Firefly to air on broadcast television. Very poignant, that.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock



Yeah, I was around to see the pilot aired last. I remember being slightly confused as to why there would be intended suspense on whether Simon was a good or bad guy. Then the show was cancelled. And now i know the entire story of how fox screwed our show into the ground!

no... i'm not bitter

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Early: I only hurt people because they keep getting in the way of me finding you. Tell her.
Simon: What am I? Your advocate?
Early: You are starting now.
Simon: He's really very...gentle...and fuzzy. We're becoming fast friends.
Early: You folks are all insane.
Simon: Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

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Sunday, May 8, 2005 2:11 AM

INEVITABLEBETRAYAL


Mal: This my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.

Yo-Saff-Bridge: You can't just leave me here on this lifeless piece-of-crap moon.

Mal: Sure I can.

Yo-Saff-Bridge: I'll die.

Mal: Well, as a courtesy, you might start gettin' busy on that, 'cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

Although I find this exchange funny, it certainly does give a window into Mal's character. When he thought Saffron was just a meek, timid, scared little girl, wasn't nothing he wouldn't do to help/teach/protect her. But now that he knows shes just a treacherous hump--one who put him and his in a position to die easier, I might add--he has neither time nor sympathy for her.

_______________________________________________
I wish I had a magical wish-granting plank.

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Friday, May 13, 2005 10:41 PM

YT

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same


Everyone dies alone

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