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Describe the shows premise in a unique but truthful way for newbies

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UPDATED: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 17:58
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Saturday, March 12, 2005 12:57 PM

ZOL


How do you describe the show to people who have never heard of it?

"Space Westernbably the shortest desription.

"It`s about a crew who are keeping low from an official body `Alliance` and will do any job that will keep them flying free. The Captain & his 1st mate Zoe were together on the losing side of a galactic war, they have a registered companion (whore) onboard, a shepherd (preacher), a love struck female engineer (she loves the doctor), a Doctor & his younger sister (both on the run from the alliance - his sister had some medical experioments done on her and they want her back), you`ve also got Wash (the pilot) and finally there`s Jayne (gun for hire on the ship) & they all live aboard the ship.

The premise is that it`s a western in space - done by Joss Whedon (but don`t let that fool you, it`s good, very good)"

The above is just bit of waffle but I`m sure it could be done better in maybe 1 or 2 sentences?

Give it ago, and be original but truthful to the series.

Darin (Zol.)




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Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:11 PM

ARAMINA


It's hilariously funny, pant-wetingly scary, brilliantly intelligent, shockingly silly and gut-wrenchingly beautiful.

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Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:40 PM

ZOL


but that hardly describes the premise of the show, if someone said that to me I would think of it as hype (nothing personal about the comment)

Darin (Zol.)

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Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:47 PM

SHINY


Better'n sex. ;p

Actually, what's worked for me in the past has been something along the lines of:

"Outlaws on the losing end of a galactic civil war fly their run-down ship to the edge of civilization all the while smuggling, scavenging, and pretty much taking any job that comes their way just to stay afloat."

I also found this passage from the 'versal site works well:

"Captain Malcolm Reynolds is a hardened veteran on the losing side of a galactic civil war, who now ekes out a living pulling off small crimes and transport-for-hire aboard his ship, Serenity. He leads a small, eclectic crew who are the closest thing he has left to family - squabbling, insubordinate and undyingly loyal."


Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Saturday, March 12, 2005 3:45 PM

STARPILOTGRAINGER


A hooker, a crazy girl, and a preacher ride on a spaceship with a bunch of petty criminals. Wackiness ensues.

;)

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Saturday, March 12, 2005 3:46 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC


Imagine for a moment that you lost everything. Your home has been occupied, your army has been defeated, your faith has been crushed. Now you try to live, one day at a time, and survive in a place with new politics and few resources.

Put on a brown coat, buy a space ship, get a crew of misfits, and you’ll be Malcolm Reynolds, captain of Serenity, doer of jobs both legal and not, and protector of two fugitives.

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No, that’s a bad way to describe it. Oh well.

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Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:02 PM

PIZMOBEACH

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Quote:

Originally posted by christhecynic:
Imagine for a moment that you lost everything. Your home has been occupied, your army has been defeated, your faith has been crushed. Now you try to live, one day at a time, and survive in a place with new politics and few resources.



Hey, that's really good! That brings home the bleakness, though I would have expected something a bit more, you know, cynical.

I'd like to be king of all Londinum and wear a shiny hat.

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Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:42 PM

SERGEANTX


Just tell them it's Star Wars if Shakespeare had written it.

I'm not entirely kidding. More than anything, what makes Firefly rise above is the dialog. More than clever, it's art within art that will unfold new layers of meaning as you listen closer.

Of course a lot of people don't like that...

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Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:14 AM

ARAMINA


Zol Yeah, but it was pretty :)

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Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:31 AM

ARAMINA


OK then...

Shot 2:

A future of history about a crew doing the right thing by breaking the law, taking things seriously by seeing the funny side and staying independent by relying on others.


Hey, it's vague, but I wouldn't want to spoil anything for anyone.

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Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:39 AM

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STARPILOTGRAINGER
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Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 19:45



A hooker, a crazy girl, and a preacher ride on a spaceship with a bunch of petty criminals. Wackiness ensues.



Works for me!

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Sunday, March 13, 2005 9:11 AM

BYTETHEBULLET


I have always described it as a Space-ghetti Western. If someone shows interest after that I go into full assimilation mode.


ByteTheBullet (-:

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Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:08 AM

EBONEZER


I've actually used this:

You take The West Wing. Then you put it in space. With Cows.

(the guy i was describing it too was a big fan of The West Wing - so i got his attention with that then talked about how cool the charchters were and stuff...)

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Monday, March 14, 2005 11:32 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES



Its the Final Frontier meets the Wild Frontier.

Butch and Sundance in the 25th Century.

Unforgiven sieved through Bladerunner.

The Stewart/Mann Westerns for the Star Wars generation.



"I threw up on your bed"

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Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:19 AM

YT

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same


Winchester 2573, for the generation that thought 2001 looked like it had been shot on location. I also like "Space-ghetti Western".

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Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:22 AM

BROWNED


It is 500 years in the future. Mankind has no space aliens, prostitution is legal, everyone speaks Chinese. A shadowy authoritarian government/military-industrial-complex runs the show ensuring a huge gap between the haves and the have notes.[cough, cough Republican].

You have a captain who was part of an 'independent' paramilitary organization has a libertarian distrust of government and regulations

His security office is -- gasp -- a black women [ethnic diversity on tv? Don't Tell "Friends"]who is intelligent and sexy and likely could kick your ass at chess just as easily she she could just kick you ass. She is married to the pilot a nice laid back guy who wears hawaii shirts and feels that the captain and his wife need to get rid of all that sexual tension.

The engineer is another woman -- goodness another intelligence and sexy woman -- who has warm, newage, earthyness to her mixed in with a 'uneducated' almost Southern charm.

The passeners aboard this ship include a Preacher - an African American male [my point in noting this is multi-ethnic theme in the show is not just erotic background] who has some sort of past [I will not share my opinions on what I think it is] who often the ship's moral compass and a nice example of a preacher on tv who does not seem obessed with abortion and homosexuality. The female companion is often the more secular-new-age moral compass, where as the the preacher has a more pragmatic Christanity approach.

The other two passengers [brother and sister] are part of the upper-middle class elite that have to adapt to the new working class world when they fled as criminals.

Their is the respectable doctor -- who if he did not have a respectable [ A sort of "I am not gay but I dress better then the guys on 'Queer Eye for the Straight Guy' and I dont want to have to put out for a girl on the first date"] lusting for the female engineer I would have expected him to take a sudden interest in 'witch craft' and perhaps start dating a werewolf.

Last, but certainly not least is the other security officer. The manly muscle of the operation. He is not to keen on the guest passenegers, not really a I-am-Ok-You-Are-Ok type of guy and does not subscribe to any clear belief system other then money, beer, loose women and big guns. He is also not the intellectual or moral compass of the crew, and he might have just a tad of Archie Bunker in him. However, aside from comic relief the guy, has a really cool gun [the best in the series] and the character's modern forefather is perhaps some where in Iraq working on the private security force and living an a former palace where consensually liberates Iraqi women of their virtue.

Ohhhh shoot. That is not very short now is it. Wait I think I got it, let me try it again....


Anyways so this cast o

f characters, with diversity in terms of




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Tuesday, March 15, 2005 4:42 AM

THALOS


When trying to get my SciFi friends to give it a chance:

"Firefly is what could have been Han Solo's life before he met Luke, but with no Aliens."

(I think I will include the written by Shakespere part as that is another accurate and telling description.)

"Whoa, good Bible."

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Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:25 AM

SHINYSEVEN


I just tell them, "Hey, you said you didn't want to watch a show about a cheerleader who kills vampires...just TRUST me on this."

Sadistic crap legitimized by florid prose...tell me you're not a fan!

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Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:29 AM

ARAMINA


Quote:

Originally posted by shinyseven:
I just tell them, "Hey, you said you didn't want to watch a show about a cheerleader who kills vampires...just TRUST me on this."



But I wanted to watch a show about a cheerleader who kills vampires. And I wanted to watch a western in space. I guess we all got perfect taste :D

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Tuesday, March 15, 2005 5:58 PM

BADGERSHAT


Okay, stop me if you heard this one:

"A preacher, a soldier, and a hooker walk into a spaceship... "

--Jefé The Hat

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