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Battlestar Galactica 2005

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Sunday, January 16, 2005 1:37 PM

ZOID



Fellow 'coats:

I think Gaius is a Cylon. Maybe even the Head Cylon. C'mon, you've been thinking it, too...

He died on Caprica (Six: "Get down!") in an atomic blast. Since then, he gets hallucinatory visits from Six. Dr. Baltar being a Cylon -- one who doesn't know he's a Cylon -- explains just about everything. Six' insistence on him believing in the Cylon god; why he can't seem to come up with an actual Cylon detection test; why the Cylons were tracking them in "33" (in order to kill the only man who could've fingered Gaius). That last one takes a little convoluted reasoning; but, it should be evident that the outcome -- having the informant and 1500 innocents killed by their own people, with Gaius apparently providing the 'stroke of genius' that exposed the Cylon 'ruse' -- justified The Toasters' pains taken in executing the plan.

The folks in Britain who've already seen ten episodes of the series may or may not already know the answer to this supposition...


Conspiratorially,

zoid

P.S.
Somewhere in the show (I think it's in the opening scene of '33') there's the textual statement that there are 10 models of humanoid Cylons. Thus far we've seen -- if my count's correct -- four of these. Since (model number) Six seems to be a field supervisor type, this means there should be at least two more underling, field agent types to watch out for, too. Cally? Billy? (*Cujo?*)
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Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:38 PM

QUICKSAND


This is all possible of course, but BSG Boomer really had no idea she was a Cylon this entire time, and as we're getting from the teasers from future episodes, she does begin to suspect. In her case, she's an alarm clock-- the Cylons wound her up and put her out there, and can hack into her and control her whenever they want... but in the meantime, she walks among them and has no idea.

Caprica Boomer did indeed shoot Blondie (whatever the heck her name is), and yeah, there was no reason we know of for her doing that. But if a strange hottie in the middle of the forest is recognizable as a threat, then a human definitely would have done that. The second blonde one shows up just to be pleased the plan has been set in motion... whether or not Caprica Boomer is aware of it.

It's like, you assume your car is good, and maybe it is, but when you're sleeping someone stole it and used it to run someone over. You might wonder why the fender was dented, but it takes a lot more evidence to realize the unthinkable.....

Maybe.

(qs)

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Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:51 PM

SNIPER


Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:

Fellow 'coats:

I think Gaius is a Cylon. Maybe even the Head Cylon. C'mon, you've been thinking it, too...

He died on Caprica (Six: "Get down!") in an atomic blast. Since then, he gets hallucinatory visits from Six. Dr. Baltar being a Cylon -- one who doesn't know he's a Cylon -- explains just about everything. Six' insistence on him believing in the Cylon god; why he can't seem to come up with an actual Cylon detection test; why the Cylons were tracking them in "33" (in order to kill the only man who could've fingered Gaius). That last one takes a little convoluted reasoning; but, it should be evident that the outcome -- having the informant and 1500 innocents killed by their own people, with Gaius apparently providing the 'stroke of genius' that exposed the Cylon 'ruse' -- justified The Toasters' pains taken in executing the plan.

The folks in Britain who've already seen ten episodes of the series may or may not already know the answer to this supposition...


Conspiratorially,

zoid

P.S.
Somewhere in the show (I think it's in the opening scene of '33') there's the textual statement that there are 10 models of humanoid Cylons. Thus far we've seen -- if my count's correct -- four of these. Since (model number) Six seems to be a field supervisor type, this means there should be at least two more underling, field agent types to watch out for, too. Cally? Billy? (*Cujo?*)



Eh... I doubt it, from reading the summaries from Britan. I don't think that he's a Cylon. It would just be too ... meaningless if all the main characters are Cylons.

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Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:28 PM

PURPLEBELLY


Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
The folks in Britain who've already seen ten episodes of the series may or may not already know the answer to this supposition...

Baltar as the villan with an English accent? Just as long as you don't expect us to tell you. Well, not the truth anyway

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Monday, January 17, 2005 12:10 AM

PURPLEBELLY


Quote:

Originally posted by Sniper:... It would just be too ... meaningless if all the main characters are Cylons.
Unless Baltar is a criminal fugative Cylon who escaped to the Colonies, and the aim of the war is to eliminate his powerbase and detain him. The elite of the remnant Fleet are Cylon agents tasked with discovering the extent of Baltar's remaining power and identifying the true Baltar. Humankind are irrelevant other than as the fish amongst which Baltar swims; any parallels you draw to current events are your own.

Not even Purplebelly believes this

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Monday, January 17, 2005 5:28 AM

GREENFAERIE


Baltar is not a Cylon... yet. There is a clue in the miniseries, in the scene (I think) when Baltar and the XO were outside the cell of the first accused cylon infiltrator (the one Baltar "discovered"). The "imaginary" Six whispered to Baltar that the Cylons should make a copy of his brain.

I think the plan is for him to become the thirteenth model of Cylon (there are 12 total).

There are an awful lot of little clues Six drops on Baltar, and I missed some of them until I saw the miniseries and the last two epsiodes again. I liked them so much I have seen them all three times now.

Another interesting bomb dropped by Six: she wants to have Baltar's baby. If she really is speaking to him through a chip in his head... what the f***?!?!




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Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:59 AM

SNIPER


Quote:

Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
Quote:

Originally posted by Sniper:... It would just be too ... meaningless if all the main characters are Cylons.
Unless Baltar is a criminal fugative Cylon who escaped to the Colonies, and the aim of the war is to eliminate his powerbase and detain him. The elite of the remnant Fleet are Cylon agents tasked with discovering the extent of Baltar's remaining power and identifying the true Baltar. Humankind are irrelevant other than as the fish amongst which Baltar swims; any parallels you draw to current events are your own.
believes this



That's just stretching it.

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Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:01 AM

SNIPER


Quote:

Originally posted by GreenFaerie:


Another interesting bomb dropped by Six: she wants to have Baltar's baby. If she really is speaking to him through a chip in his head... what the f***?!?!



The real question is she there at all, or is he imagining her? Everything that she tells him is something that he could have come up with on his own.

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