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Serenity book cover

POSTED BY: TRASK43
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 03:17
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Thursday, December 9, 2004 7:05 AM

TRASK43


Something seems a little strange about this to me but theres a picture up on amazon of the crew with a new mystery member.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1416507558/qid=110261137
8/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/002-4533919-5583268?v=glance&s=books


click on the image for a closer look.

www.summer-glau.com

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 7:13 AM

NEEDLESEYE


Who is that?
May I say they look terribly out of place?


Keeper of Jayne's goggles. 8)

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 7:16 AM

GOJIRO


This is most likely a customer-submitted cover. I.e. a hoax. Amazon lets you do this goofy thing now where you can submit pictures of the "product in action." The link is right below the picture.

KRAD -- care to comment? Unless the publishing industry has changed in the last few years, the cover shouldn't even be done yet. Ne c'est pas?

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 8:07 AM

SIMONWHO


*adopts Romulan accent*

It's a faaaaake!

But amusing nonetheless.

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 8:19 AM

KRAD


Okay, let's nip this in the bud:

THIS IS NOT THE FINAL COVER FOR THE NOVELIZATION! THIS IS A SOLICITATION COVER PUT TOGETHER FOR THE SALES FORCE BECAUSE THE FINAL COVER ISN'T READY YET.

When books are produced, a cover flat is generally made for the sales force so they can sell the books to the book sellers. It enables them to show it off. Publicity also uses these flats to promote the book ahead of time.

With a movie novelization, the cover is almost always the movie poster, and that poster is often not ready in time to make the solicitation cover. So the solicitation cover often has a publicity shot provided by the movie company (in this case a photo that I've actually seen elsewhere on the web), with generic type.

Of course, this was all done in anticipation of the book coming out in April. *sigh*

In any case, I'll say it again: THIS ISN'T THE FINAL COVER.

That is all. :)


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Thursday, December 9, 2004 8:21 AM

SIMONWHO


Soooooo, is it the final cover then?


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Thursday, December 9, 2004 8:27 AM

JR


Quote:

Originally posted by KRAD:
Okay, let's nip this in the bud:

THIS IS NOT THE FINAL COVER FOR THE NOVELIZATION! THIS IS A SOLICITATION COVER PUT TOGETHER FOR THE SALES FORCE BECAUSE THE FINAL COVER ISN'T READY YET.

When books are produced, a cover flat is generally made for the sales force so they can sell the books to the book sellers. It enables them to show it off. Publicity also uses these flats to promote the book ahead of time.

With a movie novelization, the cover is almost always the movie poster, and that poster is often not ready in time to make the solicitation cover. So the solicitation cover often has a publicity shot provided by the movie company (in this case a photo that I've actually seen elsewhere on the web), with generic type.

Of course, this was all done in anticipation of the book coming out in April. *sigh*

In any case, I'll say it again: THIS ISN'T THE FINAL COVER.

That is all. :)


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Keith,

I posted a blowup of the image in the Blue Sun Room earlier:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=2800

I think what most people are wondering is, who is the extra person on the right? The original image from the web had no one to the right of Summer, I believe. (p.s. forgive my joking comment from the Blue Sun Room post that it might be you in drag ;)

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 9:29 AM

WREN


They did say Book was getting a new look

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 9:35 AM

TRASK43


Thanks for the info about the cover KRAD, now we just need to find out who the mystery person is on the photo. Any ideas?

www.summer-glau.com

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 9:36 AM

KRAD


Quote:

Soooooo, is it the final cover then?


Don't make me come over there......




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Thursday, December 9, 2004 11:02 AM

ERELLEVENT


Im sorry to say that then new guy in the picture seems kind of strange and if he is in the movie then im sure Joss put him in for a good reason but i got to say if i never saw the series and love the show i might be turned off of this movie by the look of that goofy looking guy.

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 11:20 AM

KRAD


^ Which is why that cover isn't meant for public consumption.



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Thursday, December 9, 2004 11:24 AM

KRAD


Is it at all possible to change the Blue Sun Room thread to something like "Not the Serenity Novelization Cover" or somesuch? Anybody going there will think the cover's in there, and it isn't. The cover doesn't actually exist yet.




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Thursday, December 9, 2004 11:50 AM

ZEEK


What are you guys talking about? That's obviously Inara. Looking fine as ever I might add.

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 11:54 AM

ERELLEVENT


My bad if thats Inara but i got to say not the best look for her or atlest from this picture.

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 12:31 PM

XION47


Maybe it's Morena's stand-in. But, anyone else think she kinda looks like Kaylee and Simon's lovechild? Or at least Sean Mehr in drag?

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 2:49 PM

ZOID


Even though KRAD is trying to play coy, I know who the extra character on the right is...

It's Serenity's newest crew member, Alice: the wacky, spunky, cook/maid. And here we all thought Firefly was based on 'Gilligan's Island'...

Everybody sing! "Here's the story; Of a man named Reynolds..."


(Show) Tunefully,

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Thursday, December 9, 2004 3:15 PM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by KRAD:
Quote:

Soooooo, is it the final cover then?


Don't make me come over there......






Soo, you're avoiding answering the question....




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Thursday, December 9, 2004 9:39 PM

PURPLEBELLY


Quote:

Originally posted by JR:
... who is the extra person on the right?

Is this the end of speculation about the contents of Inara's syringe?

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Friday, December 10, 2004 2:04 AM

JR


Quote:

Originally posted by KRAD:
Is it at all possible to change the Blue Sun Room thread to something like "Not the Serenity Novelization Cover" or somesuch? Anybody going there will think the cover's in there, and it isn't. The cover doesn't actually exist yet.

Keith R.A. DeCandido



Keith,
Since I couldn't edit my post of the Amazon cover of your book in the Blue Sun Room (or change the title of the thread), I simply deleted it. I am an author as well, and I understand your concerns. No harm was meant.

Cheers, and good luck with the book.
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Friday, December 10, 2004 4:08 AM

KRAD


Thanks, JR, it's appreciated. It's not your fault, it's Amazon's (they even cut off the line on top of the cover that says it's for solicitation only and not the final cover).



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Friday, December 10, 2004 4:13 AM

SIMONWHO


For solicitation only, eh? So it is Inara then.

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Friday, December 10, 2004 5:04 AM

ZOID


Is anyone familiar with the tale of Pandora's Box? (Shaddup, youse wiseasses) Since KRAD is only pissed that the cover may be mistaken for the real one (which it's not), but he's not pissed that somebody used a Photoshopped forgery, that means the photo is real. The mystery cast member (who I like to think of as Alice Nelson) appears to be female, based mostly on the shoes. ...But I guess it could be Simon's gay cabana boy. Ah, young love...

Getting this particular djinni of a spoiler stuffed back inside its bottle may prove problematic. I'm sure s/he is a fine actress, even though I've never seen her/him before; but, s/he is undoubtedly ready for the big time in the Talkies. Welcome to the crew, our newest BDH!

Everybody, second verse! "It's the story, of Zoe Whutev'r-herlastnameis; Who was busy with three girls of her own..."


Doubtfully,

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Friday, December 10, 2004 5:45 AM

JR


Quote:

Originally posted by KRAD:
Thanks, JR, it's appreciated. It's not your fault, it's Amazon's (they even cut off the line on top of the cover that says it's for solicitation only and not the final cover).

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It's to bad that they didn't ask you to submit an image for the solicitation cover, Keith. You could have started a contest to see who could make the best (temporary) cover for your book. Not only would you have a better solicitation cover (there are some very talented people here at fff.net) but you would be helping fans pass the time till the BDM comes out.

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Friday, December 10, 2004 8:55 AM

PRISCELLIE


It's obviously the corporeal manifestation of Serenity! How long has Joss been saying that Serenity was the 10th character on the show?

Anyway, *sigh*, looking at that picture again... is it just me, or does anyone else really really miss that door shaped like a Union Jack? I hardly see how that decorative circle thing is practical.

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Friday, December 10, 2004 9:54 AM

RABIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Priscellie:
Anyway, *sigh*, looking at that picture again... is it just me, or does anyone else really really miss that door shaped like a Union Jack? I hardly see how that decorative circle thing is practical.

Could be the attaching end of a structural support beam that runs from the back of the ship to that point, distributing the forces across the wall section.



Yes, that's BS, but yes, it could be legitimate.

Just one possibility...

Hey! Could be the mounting braces for the new heavy cannon assembly mounted underneath and towards the back! (Oh how I hope not...)

Rabit

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Friday, December 10, 2004 10:09 AM

FORRESTWOLF


Question for you on the Amazon site, Keith - is it legitimate and even a good idea for us pre-purchasers to submit reviews already? I mean, I could put one in, and then state in the review that it's not yet available, but that you've done an excellent job on prior work, and that Firefly was such an unbelievably amazing show that this MUST be great.

Is this a good idea, folks? Way to promote it...they seem to allow reviews on prereleases.

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Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:08 AM

KRAD


^ I don't know that that's such a hot idea, though I appreciate the thought. I just think it's a little hinky to "review" a book that's not out yet. That section is for user comments on the book itself, really.

Thanks for the thought, though, I really appreciate it!


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Monday, December 13, 2004 3:17 PM

HELL'S KITTEN


Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
Is anyone familiar with the tale of Pandora's Box? (Shaddup, youse wiseasses) Since KRAD is only pissed that the cover may be mistaken for the real one (which it's not), but he's not pissed that somebody used a Photoshopped forgery, that means the photo is real.

Been away for a while only to come back to this. This "cover" photo isn't the same as the "original" promo shot that popped up a little while ago. Our BDHs are in pretty much the same position, but their poses are slightly different. Which lends itself to the whole not-a-fake-photo thing.

Not to take anything away from Zoid's theory that it's Simon's gay lover - which would actually be my second theory - but it does look like a guy more than a girl, so it could be that

Select to view spoiler:


"young tough" they take onboard Serenity

after

Select to view spoiler:


the bank heist (from the original casting sheet)

. (Hee. Sorry... abusing the spoiler switch just cuz I ne'er used it before.) Or I could be abusing some controlled substance... regarding my wee thought on who that might be... not regarding the spoiler switch abusage.

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Monday, December 13, 2004 11:48 PM

WREN


DamnitGirlie has cleared this up over at the OB. It seems someone won a charity auction and got the chance to appear as an extra in Serenity. As part of the experience they had some shots done with the crew. This is one of those shots.

Unfortunately, I cannot directly link to the thread (computer problems), but the thread is called 'Serenity book cover' and it can be found in the 'general Firefly discussion area'.

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:17 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wren:
DamnitGirlie has cleared this up over at the OB. It seems someone won a charity auction and got the chance to appear as an extra in Serenity. As part of the experience they had some shots done with the crew. This is one of those shots.

Unfortunately, I cannot directly link to the thread (computer problems), but the thread is called 'Serenity book cover' and it can be found in the 'general Firefly discussion area'.



Thanks for the info Wren. I seldom post at the OB anymore so I had not seen DG's post about this pic.

Hell's Kitten is right though, the pic is legit, not shopped. Poses and facial expressions on the BDHs are different. I didn't pick up on that without doing a side by side comparison.

A charity auction you say? Interesting.

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