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Finding Serenity: Anti-Heroes, Lost Shepherds and Space Hookers in Joss Whedon's Firefly
by Glenn Yeffeth (Editor), Jane Espensen (Editor)



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Jane Espensen is a veteran Mutant Enemy script writer who was responsible for the Firefly episode "Shindig." She has also written for Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Deep Space Nine, Ellen, Gilmore Girls, and Star Trek. She lives in Los Angeles. Glenn Yeffeth is the editor of Seven Seasons of Buffy and Taking the Red Pill. He lives in Dallas, Texas.



Product Description:

In this eclectic anthology of essays, former cast member Jewel Staite, "Kaylee," philosopher Lyle Zynda, sex therapist Joy Davidson, and noted science fiction and fantasy authors Mercedes Lackey, David Gerrold, and Lawrence Watt-Evans contribute to a clever and insightful analysis of the short-lived cult hit Firefly. From What went wrong with the pilot? to What's right about Reavers? and how the correspondence between the show's creator Joss Whedon and the network executives might have actually played out, the writers interrogate the show's complexity and speculate about what might have been if the show Firefly had not been cancelled.




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"Hamsters is nice."

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Monday, November 22, 2004 4:30 AM

LINDLEY


Shineyness.

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Monday, November 22, 2004 5:02 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by nakedandarticulate:
She has also written for Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Deep Space Nine, Ellen, Gilmore Girls, and Star Trek.

Deep Space Nine and Star Trek, huh?

Quote:

Taking the Red Pill.
That's what this makes me think of; one of those pop-culture philosophy textbooks (I have a couple of the Matrix ones). Interesting reading, but likely not a must-buy for non-rabid fans.

Probably be useful for those of us still burdened with academia though --it gives us a venue to reference Firefly in essays without sounding like too much of a geek.

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Monday, November 22, 2004 5:26 AM

NEDWARD


I for one will take a look. I'd be interested to see what the likes of Gerrold and Lackey think about Firefly. Good publication timing!

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Monday, November 22, 2004 6:22 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


If it has to do w/ Firefly I will be buying it.

Sounds interesting.

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Monday, November 22, 2004 6:53 AM

GOJIRO


Tangentially related story:

I worked for Writer's Digest Books once upon a time, as editor of a short-lived series of genre writing books. One of them was the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writer's Sourcebook, and as "research" I attended DragonCon, where several wonderful things happened:

A) I was on a panel with John Saul and Terry Brooks, which led to several projects with Terry (incredibly nice person)

B) I was in a buffett line behind Harlan Ellison and spent the entire time trying to think of something to say. Ended up saying nothing, but worked with him later in my career anyway. (not an incredibly nice person)

C) Attended a Tor Books room party, where I met several of my favorite writers, including:

D) David Gerrold, who introduced himself to me by picking lint of the back of my jacket.

David is another incredibly nice person. We had a good chat, wherein I mentioned that "Trouble with Tribbles" was my favorite episode of Trek. He was trying to bring one of his novels to TV as a series, and at the time it was looking good, but ultimately nothing happened.

That brief conversation led to him writing a book for WDB called Worlds of Wonder: How To Write Science Fiction and Fantasy many years later. It was one of the last books I edited before leaving the company, and it remains possibly the best book on writing SF ever published -- by WDB or anyone else.

All of which is to say that I (A) miss the hell out of that job, which was the best job I ever had, and (B) will be buying this book for David's essay alone -- although Jewel's should be interesting, too.


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Monday, November 22, 2004 8:27 AM

KRAD


Oh, is that what the title is? *laughs*

I, too, will have an essay in that book, BTW, and it's naturally coming out 'round the same time as the release of the BDM and the BDNOTBDM (Big Damn Novelization of the Big Damn Movie ).


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Monday, November 22, 2004 8:55 AM

RABIT


Even better - Thanks, KRAD!

Well, it's on my Wishlist. If I don't get it for Christmas, I'll just have to invest in a copy for myself - right after I get the BDNOTBDM!

Rabit

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Monday, November 22, 2004 10:10 AM

MALICIOUS


Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:

...but likely not a must-buy for non-rabid fans.




C-snark,

IS there such a thing when it comes to Firefly??

Mal-licious

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Monday, November 22, 2004 10:29 AM

NAKEDANDARTICULATE




...but likely not a must-buy for non-rabid fans.



C-snark,

IS there such a thing when it comes to Firefly??

Mal-licious

Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell


LOL ! ABSADOODLE,MMMMAL-LICIOUS,the amount of money i'm going to spend on magazine articles alone scares the crap out of me.

"Hamsters is nice."

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Monday, November 22, 2004 11:23 AM

FORRESTWOLF


KRAD -

Looking forward to yours (already pre-ordered), and I must say that with Watt-Evans AND Lackey in there in the other book, I'd best pre-order it to!

Folks, I'd guess preordering these sorts of things is a great way to guerilla market the movie. Am I right? If so, preorder!

- Forrestwolf

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Monday, November 22, 2004 11:38 AM

ZOID



'coats:

I am SO on this, like a duck on a junebug...


v/r,
zed

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Monday, November 22, 2004 12:08 PM

SLAYER730


Absolutely, positively pre-ordered. Thanks for the heads up.

***Never judge a book by its movie***

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Monday, November 22, 2004 12:57 PM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by nedward:
Good publication timing!



Would of been even better if it was right NOW!!!




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Monday, November 22, 2004 2:21 PM

ASA


It's being published by BenBalla books. ( http://www.benbellabooks.com/) I heard about it back in Sept. at Noreascon 4, when I talked to a representative of the publisher who was at the con.

They've also done similar collections of essays about Buffy and Angel, titled respectively "Seven Seasons of Buffy" and "Five Seasons of Angel". Not the most imaginative names, but I read a review of "Five Seasons of Angel" that said it was quite good.

Outside of the Whedon-verse they've done an essay book for Stargate called "Stepping Through the Stargate". Now why can't the do ones for other great shows like Farscape or babylon 5?

Nonetheless, it looks like a great collection of essays, and it's wonderful to get this level of discussion for such a short series. Guess we're not the only ones who think Firefly is really really good.

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Monday, November 22, 2004 4:19 PM

FILMCRITIC3000


Oh yeah! I am *so* buying this!



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Monday, November 22, 2004 4:27 PM

BEATLE


Quote:

Originally posted by gojiro:
B) I was in a buffett line behind Harlan Ellison and spent the entire time trying to think of something to say. Ended up saying nothing, but worked with him later in my career anyway. (not an incredibly nice person)



That rocks. But, not nice?

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Monday, November 22, 2004 4:36 PM

GOJIRO


Quote:

Originally posted by Beatle:
Quote:

Originally posted by gojiro:
B) I was in a buffett line behind Harlan Ellison and spent the entire time trying to think of something to say. Ended up saying nothing, but worked with him later in my career anyway. (not an incredibly nice person)



That rocks. But, not nice?



Well, he was always nice to me, but only because I gave him whatever he wanted. He reduced one of my copyeditors to tears though, and she was a sweet girl.

Brilliant f-ing writer, though. If anyone has earned the right to be a bit tetchy at times, it's Harlan Ellison.

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Monday, November 22, 2004 4:41 PM

SEAFORT


Quote:

Originally posted by gojiro:

David is another incredibly nice person. We had a good chat, wherein I mentioned that "Trouble with Tribbles" was my favorite episode of Trek. He was trying to bring one of his novels to TV as a series, and at the time it was looking good, but ultimately nothing happened.

That brief conversation led to him writing a book for WDB called Worlds of Wonder: How To Write Science Fiction and Fantasy many years later. It was one of the last books I edited before leaving the company, and it remains possibly the best book on writing SF ever published -- by WDB or anyone else.

All of which is to say that I (A) miss the hell out of that job, which was the best job I ever had, and (B) will be buying this book for David's essay alone -- although Jewel's should be interesting, too.


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I have that book, I've read it a few times. It really is good. Thank you for putting it together! I too would buy this for Gerrold's essay alone. But the rest of it sure does sound like some awful sweet icing.

oops, I was editing the quote and I've gone and messed it...

"The cosmic baker took us out of the oven a little too early, and that's the reason we're as crazy as we are..."

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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:01 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by gojiro and Beatle:
*stuff about Harlan Ellison*
Well, he was always nice to me, but only because I gave him whatever he wanted. He reduced one of my copyeditors to tears though, and she was a sweet girl.

He makes everybody cry. He's like a monster.

Seriously. It's just what he does.


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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:11 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by KRAD:
Oh, is that what the title is? *laughs*

I, too, will have an essay in that book, BTW, and it's naturally coming out 'round the same time as the release of the BDM and the BDNOTBDM (Big Damn Novelization of the Big Damn Movie ).


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Glad to hear you will have an essay in the book as well Keith. Can you shed some light on the essay?

Now that the movie has been pushed back to September, will this effect the release of the novelization and this book of essays?

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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:28 AM

KRAD


The novelization will be pushed back along with the movie, so it too will be out in September.

As for the book of essays, I honestly don't know.



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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:02 AM

PURPLEBELLY


Many thanks for the prompt response, krad, especially since Front Office often treat their Creatives as much as an afterthought as they do their movie's Fanbase

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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:03 AM

KRAD


Well, put it this way, I found out the same way you all did -- as did my publisher. *grin*

(Of course, this would be announced Thanksgiving week -- both Pocket Books's contact at Universal and my editor for the book are on vacation this week.....)


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Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:12 PM

FFYING2


Quote:

Originally posted by Asa:
Outside of the Whedon-verse they've done an essay book for Stargate called "Stepping Through the Stargate". Now why can't the do ones for other great shows like Farscape or babylon 5?



Patience (of the non-Whitefall kind), Asa.

SPRING 2005

- The Anthology at the End of the Universe: Leading Science Fiction Authors on Douglas Adams' The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

- War of the Worlds: Fresh Perspectives on the H.G. Wells Classic

- Alias Assumed: Sex, Lies and SD-6

- Navigating the Golden Compass: Religion, Science and Daemonology in Phillip Pullman's His Dark Materials


FALL 2005

- Farscape Forever

- Muggle Studies

- Revisiting Narnia

- King Kong is Back!

- Totally Charmed

- D'oh!: Psychology of the Simpsons

http://www.benbellabooks.com/upcomingline.html

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:58 PM

SHEPHERDTEACHER


Hello folks. I have an essay in Benbella's new book, Revisiting Narnia. I was too late to the world of Firefly (just got the DVD set and am loving it) to be asked to contribute to Finding Serenity, but I enjoy Benbella's "Smart Pop" series of booksand I've ordered Finding Serenity and look forward to reading the essays.

Shepherdteacher

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:24 PM

KRAD


Well, since we're dredging this thread back up anyhow, I've got one out in a new Smart Pop book as well: King Kong is Back! has my piece entitled "'Twas Stupidity Killed the Beast."

And I've got three more coming in 2006: "Actor and Superactor" in The Boy from Krypton, "Pryde and Joy" in The Unauthorized X-Men (both in the spring), and "The Madness of King George" in Star Wars on Trial (in the summer).


Keith R.A. DeCandido
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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:43 PM

MOOSE


Gaah!!! They really need to put thread dates with the title. I thought there was an essay book on the movie Serenity coming out...

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:13 AM

SHEPHERDTEACHER


Moose wrote:
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 21:43
Gaah!!! They really need to put thread dates with the title. I thought there was an essay book on the movie Serenity coming out...

Sorry, my mistake as a newbie to the site. I discovered this site through a link to this discussion, and assumed it was a current one. I should have checked the dates.








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