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Wash and Zoe. How'd THAT happen?

POSTED BY: AURAPTOR
UPDATED: Thursday, October 28, 2004 06:46
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Monday, October 25, 2004 10:10 AM

AURAPTOR

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Wash - the sarcastic, funny, wise cracking, hot shot pilot.

Zoe - The fierce warrior woman, veteran of the tough 'Balls and Bayonet Brigade', loyal to her Sgt, now Capt.Mal,

We know from OoG that these 2 didn't exactly hit it off.
Quote:

Zoe: Something about him bothers me.
Mal: What about him bothers you?
Zoe: I'm not sure. It's... something.
Mal: Well, your something comes up against a list of recommendations as long as my leg. Tanaka raves about this guy, Renshaw's been trying to get him on his crew for a month. And we need us a pilot.
Zoe: I understand, sir. He bothers me.

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Clearly, that 'something' was that she was attracted to him, though she didn't know it at the time. Or , was there something else at work ? How DID we get from Zoe 'being bothered ' by Wash, to MARRYING him?

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Monday, October 25, 2004 10:47 AM

MALICIOUS


Obviously he stunned her with his strapping, he-manly body and swept her off her feet with his witty rep-ar-tay.

Yeah, right.

I think they got stinkin' drunk one night and did "it" and they like "it" so much they kept doing "it." Until one morning, they woke up on Planet Vegas, having gotten married as a lark.

Mal-licious

Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell

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Monday, October 25, 2004 11:17 AM

FEMALEJAYNE


I don't think there needs to be a reason. Love does that to a person. Zoe probably was attracted to him because he offers her everything she's never had, love, peace, stabilty and he's not afraid of her. Okay so the peace thing didn't really work but he's never seen war.
and Wash with her, well she's a beautiful intelegent woman, who is everything he wants to be.

With Hope because love is nothing without hope.

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Monday, October 25, 2004 12:34 PM

RIVERGIRL


so no one has written a fic about this event?

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

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Monday, October 25, 2004 12:54 PM

WILDHEAVENFARM


I figure it would be his easy-going nature and sense of humor (something she lived largely without for years), or he's hung like a mule. I could go either way.

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

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Monday, October 25, 2004 1:15 PM

LOTV


Why Wash went for Zoe, well that's obvious enough, from a man's point of view (at least I hope its obvious)

Zoe for Wash? Um... The shirt? Maybe he proved himself to be the darn good pilot he is?

Or just plain the fact that they tend to have cross gender roles ( She's got more balls so to speak, and um... vice versa), and they have what couples wish in their mate... men to be more emotional, women to be more like.. "the guys"...

I have no idea what I am saying. Consider it as random firings of neurons within my brain mass...

LOTV: Ima-who-whata-whoichy-whoda-whazza--huh?


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Monday, October 25, 2004 2:00 PM

JENDANDY


Quote:

Originally posted by rivergirl:
so no one has written a fic about this event?



I was wondering that myself. Would be interesting to get some POV's from fanfiction-land on how this came about. Surely someone has tried it by now...



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Monday, October 25, 2004 4:01 PM

DARKJESTER


Quote:

I figure it would be his easy-going nature and sense of humor (something she lived largely without for years), or he's hung like a mule. I could go either way.


He hung up the mule? But that thing has tires, and is really, REALLY heavy, so did he use a rope to......

Oh... Never mind

LOL

MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

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Monday, October 25, 2004 4:43 PM

DINGOACTION


no, no, no. No drunken night of sex. No lark. :P It was all much more romantic than that. More along the lines of femalejayne's idea...he showed her the world wasn't all doom and gloom. It was all very romantic. so I'm a sap; sue me.


ok, so he's a stud in the sack, too, but that is *so* a footnote.



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That summabitch deserves an emmy!

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Monday, October 25, 2004 6:11 PM

TALLGRRL


There IS fan fic about how Wash and Zoe got together, and some of it's quite wonderful.
It's somewhere on this site...unless it's been moved.
Anyone here who can point rivergirl to the fanfic?


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Monday, October 25, 2004 7:36 PM

DINGOACTION


Don't know how to link it, but in the Blue Sun Room, under romance fiction, near the bottom, are three: If all the world, by Philomel (early, and my fav), Where the truth was, and The Heart of Her, both by Sarahetc (them in love, Wash proposing, respectively). I liked it, quite a bit.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 3:03 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


I always imagined that Zoe fell for Wash because he made her laugh. I see Zoe as having come up hard, born into a poor family and having to scratch and claw out an existance. I think this life made her tough, almost callous to the world around her.

Along comes Wash, and even though there is "something about him that bothers her", he makes her laugh, something she has been in desperate need of for years. She finds herself relaxing around him and she starts to feel again. Naturally she falls in love w/ him and they marry.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:24 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave


Quote:

Originally posted by rivergirl:
so no one has written a fic about this event?

Go find Sarahetc on the visitors list in Community and check out her fan fics. That girl wrote what I consider some of the best work on this event, and wonderfully at that.

*end shameless plug*

EDIT: Better yet, allow me to put Sarahetc's work in chronological order:

Natural Talent
http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=90

Mood to Burn Bridges
http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=52

Where the Truth Was
http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=48

The Heart of Her
http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=57

RSVP
http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=47

She never did write that difinitive eyes meeting eyes moment specifically, but she did some damn fine stuff.

Fans come and fans go...but zealots are with you until the bitter black end.
I draw...therefore I am.
http://www.mnartists.org/artistHome.do?rid=7922

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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:08 AM

ODDNESS2HER


I thought it was obvious that it was Wash's mustache that bothered Zoe when they first met.
One day he shaved, and the rest was history.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:24 AM

GUILDSISTER


In my ongoing fic, "Blue Sue Job", Wash appeals to Zoe because he's like Mal--like Mal was before he got all dark and gloomy, the cheerful, kinda goofy-humor guy we see in the flashbacks. Takes Zoe a while to actually realize that's why she likes Wash, of course.

I also explain (my explanation) for Book's ident card...

http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=2463

Guildsister

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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:46 AM

RIJPE


As far as Wash "bothering" Zoe the first time they met, it doesn't suprise me. Besides the shirt and the moustache, he was obviously oogling Zoe.

I have wondered myself "How'd THAT happen?" I subscribe to the view others have mentioned -- Zoe was very down, and Wash gave her some joy back in life.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:50 AM

SARAHETC


Holy wow! Thanks for all the props. Once upon a time, I looked into Channain's heart and saw that it was full of beer and red lipstick and I knew that we were soul mates.

Also read anything (in Firefly) by Philomel, like "Pieces" and "If All the World." "Pieces" is a War Stories post-ep, but these things have a way of shedding light on the past. I don't know of anyone who is schmoopy about Wash/Zoe who didn't do a War Stories post-ep. And Philomel's is superb and so beautiful.

Defender82 has written some interesting stories about Wash and Zoe, often in Mal's shadow, and they are (or were) archived in the Blue Sun Room. You'll have to search back some, but not as far back as Philomel.

I think something that no one has bothered to mention yet is also this: opposites attract. We never really get to learn much about them except the glaring up front stuff. She's a war survivor, badass and stoic. He's the goofy pilot with the shirts and the dinosaurs. But all cliches have a nugget of truth. My vision of them has Zoe moving to Wash for many reasons, but the primary one being that he is happy and that's what she wants. Unlike Mal, who despite his better intentions, keeps fighting the war, she's made up her mind to move on. Wash isn't a tool or a stepping stone-- he's a guide.

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:51 PM

CAPTAINHARBATKIN


He has gray eyelashes, and Zoe liked that. She never knew anyone in his age group with gray eyelashes. Also he smells good and she likes that, too. And at Flight School, his nickname was Mortadella Man, and he does not eat Italian food. Yes, she likes that, too.

As for why HE married her, well, she's hot, she wanted HIM, and SHE smells good too.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 4:50 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.


I think the opposites attract angle works. Plus she seems to get turned on when he does really cool pilot stuff.

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:46 AM

JAHZARA


What I really appreciate about Wash and Zoe is not only how their opposites attract (most of the married couple I know are like that) but also how you can actually *see* them together.

It could have easily felt so ackward and forced. I'm just shuddering thinking about if someone other than Joss had gotten their hands on them.

Moving on, I love them especially in the scene in OMR when Zoe calls everyone to the cargo bay. There's a little bit of devilment in her. You can also see glimpses of it when Wash makes jokes.

I just love Zoe and Wash. Lots of love to Channain for posting wonderful links on how to find the stories, and Sarahetc for writing them so brilliantly.

Y'all keep us flying.

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