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Smoke bomb in "The Train Job".....

POSTED BY: CALHOUN
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 6, 2004 02:45
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Sunday, July 4, 2004 1:45 AM

CALHOUN


Anyone else find the use of the smoke bomb in "The Train Job" a little painful? You know, where Mal throws it into the carriage so he and Zoe could sneak aboard.. Someone is bound to have seen him throw it in, and if not then the presence of said smoke bomb would mean that perp was in that carriage and it would be fairly easy for police to deduce who it was from peoples accounts..

Dont get me wrong, Firefly is my very favouritist show. Its just a small quibble I have with that ep but a quibble nonetheless.


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Sunday, July 4, 2004 3:10 AM

PURPLEBELLY


You try writing an hour episode over a weekend; sorry make that half an episode when someone else is simultaneously writing the other half. No one suggests that The Train Job excels in anything other than the triumph of hope over experience.

Why don't you question the behaviour of the passengers, who seem completely used to smoke bombs. Or the member of a squad who suddenly takes off on his own - where's his oppo at least? Or no-one noticing a thundering great spaceship. Or ...

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 4:56 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


I love Firefly to death, and yet I will be the first to admit that I could nitpick every single episode to shreds if I cared to. This show is one of the best at proving that the sum is much greater than the individual parts.




wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 7:12 AM

TIGER


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
I love Firefly to death, and yet I will be the first to admit that I could nitpick every single episode to shreds if I cared to. This show is one of the best at proving that the sum is much greater than the individual parts.

Absolutely. We could pick apart every episode of every show ever made if we wanted to.

The focus on non-essential details (as trekkers are so famous for) just shows that they aren't seeing the big picture, and in the case of a show like Firefly, that makes me feel sorry for them.

(Calhoun, I'm not lumping you in with the detail-freak trekkers - your question is legitimate. It just raised an issue that's a pet peeve of mine).

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...In pleasant peace and security
How suddenly the soul in a man begins to die.
He shall look up above the stalled oxen
Envying the cruel falcon,
And dig under the straw for a stone
To bruise himself on.

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 7:36 AM

MER


They pass through the passenger thingy. Nobody's really paying attention to them. I noticed just one person turning to the side. From their perspective, it's just a hand. So Mal and Zoe sneak into the passengar cart to make themselves more passengery, without anybody noticing that they weren't there before.

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 8:53 AM

DOUBLESHINY


Hmm, can't say I really noticed, I just thought 'Cool! A smoke bomb!'

I seriously think the smokebomb (and grenade) are underused on television.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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Tuesday, July 6, 2004 2:10 AM

FREMDFIRMA


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I seriously think the smokebomb (and grenade) are underused on television.



I fully agree, many situations (such as ship boardings in sci-fi, house to house/room to room clearing actions, etc) on Television where a grenade WOULD BE USED, they don't.

Sorry, but if there's a big nasty maybe in that room, i'm not gonna just charge in the doorway he's prolly aiming at, just waiting for some damned fool to do that trick.

Also, when they ARE used, they use them all wrong - if the bad guy SEES you throwing the grenade, you screwed up - he can shoot you, throw it back, or take effective cover.

When Zoe did a proper no-exposure grenade bankshot in War Stories, I was cheering (which got me some odd looks) cause that's HOW IT'S DONE RIGHT.

Three things TV writers should, but don't, remember.
Bombs are not perfectly lethal, guns are not magic wands, and shrapnel in space flies a long, long way without any air to slow it down.

-frem
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Tuesday, July 6, 2004 2:15 AM

PURPLEBELLY


^^ Next, you'll be asking them to get flash/report timing right

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Tuesday, July 6, 2004 2:45 AM

SAINT JAYNE


I find it's better for my enjoyment of TV to adopt a slightly moronic, drooling grin and just have fun with the show. Every now and again I pop out of my illusionary word because something doesn't seem right, but that smoke bomb scene didn't do it. :moronicgrin:

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