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"protein in all the colors of the rainbow"

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UPDATED: Thursday, June 10, 2004 07:18
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Sunday, June 6, 2004 6:58 AM

EST120


there are multiple references in the show to the food being mostly protein or almost all protein. does this mean that someday atkins is going to take over the world? is atkins a subsidiary of blue sun?

obviously, i am joking. i assume there are supplements that people take to avoid malnutrition and perhaps protein foodstuffs are just the cheapest thing around since fresh fruits and veggies are apparently available.


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Sunday, June 6, 2004 7:12 AM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1


i'm pretty sure that its not just pure protien, but that it is a schmorgashbord (sp?) or different foods and nutriets all mushed together...kind of like the food pills the Jetson's had.

Maybe they have a really long rediculous name, and so everybody just calls it Protein because its shorter.

I also think everybody eats protein, because it is what is rationed out by the government and so they don't have to pay for it, unless the Alliance is running late (and it probably is quite frequently) then they just have to buy it...but by the sounds of it, it costs a pretty penny... as is demonstrated in Serenity. If it was so cheap, Badger wouldn't have thought it was worth the trouble to have it picked up by Mal.

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MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Monday, June 7, 2004 7:34 AM

KOIPOND


chances are that when they speak of 'protein' their are talking about soy protein. soy beans are easy to grow, put up with a varity of climates and more importantly enrich the soil making it suitable for other crops. if you think about soybeans are probable the number one crop for worlds freshly teraformed, ones with short growing seasons and worlds with poor soil (which seams like most of them). it can also be used to make many non-food items such as ink, diesel fuel and waxes.
Food-wise soy beans are high in protein and can be processed into cooking oil, flour, 'milk', and a meat-like product that is 'interesting' in flavor. which also explains how Saffron found all the ingredients for bao in Serenity's kitchen.

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Monday, June 7, 2004 7:42 AM

EST120


Quote:

Originally posted by koipond:
chances are that when they speak of 'protein' their are talking about soy protein.



you know, i bet you are right. there is more than one mention of soy protein in the show. that is the stuff that mal wants to take off the other ship in Bushwhacked. good call!

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Monday, June 7, 2004 9:37 AM

HERO


Maybe they are all on the Atkins diet.

I mean, they do seem kinda on the thin side. Maybe in the future Dr. Atkins becomes a beloved figure in science and medicine and his diet program is simply how people learn to eat. This makes them happier, healthier, and more robust right up until their death from heart disease.

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Monday, June 7, 2004 9:48 AM

KOIPOND


plus when Kaylee talk about the cake in Out of Gas, she says,"Couldn't get a hold of no flour, so it's mostly protein. In fact, it's pretty much what we just had for supper. But I tried to get the frosting as chocolatey tasting as possible, so...". if used on it's own, soy flour has alot of protien which would make a cake kind of chewy/dense. plus it has a flavor that is hard to cover, explaining why the frosting is only so chocolatey.

a interesting side note. as far as i can remember (and i could be wrong about this) there is never any bread shown in the series. this would make prefect sense as only rye/wheat flour has enough glulten to allow for yeast risen breads. if the planets of the Allience are primarily dependant on soy beans, yeast breads would be a rare thing indeed.

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Monday, June 7, 2004 10:07 AM

SHIKSA


Quote:

Originally posted by koipond:

a interesting side note. as far as i can remember (and i could be wrong about this) there is never any bread shown in the series. this would make prefect sense as only rye/wheat flour has enough glulten to allow for yeast risen breads. if the planets of the Allience are primarily dependant on soy beans, yeast breads would be a rare thing indeed.



I remember at the end of one of the episodes (I can't remember which one, which is driving me crazy) there is a scene of the entire crew sitting down to dinner, and you see River stealing what looks like a roll off of Jayne's plate. I remembered it because I thought it was cute. That's the only instance I can think of.




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Monday, June 7, 2004 12:22 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

...which also explains how Saffron found all the ingredients for bao in Serenity's kitchen.


Q: What exactly IS bao? Anyone care to fill me in? Thanks

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Monday, June 7, 2004 6:39 PM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1


Quote:

Originally posted by Shiksa:
Quote:

Originally posted by koipond:

a interesting side note. as far as i can remember (and i could be wrong about this) there is never any bread shown in the series. this would make prefect sense as only rye/wheat flour has enough glulten to allow for yeast risen breads. if the planets of the Allience are primarily dependant on soy beans, yeast breads would be a rare thing indeed.



I remember at the end of one of the episodes (I can't remember which one, which is driving me crazy) there is a scene of the entire crew sitting down to dinner, and you see River stealing what looks like a roll off of Jayne's plate. I remembered it because I thought it was cute. That's the only instance I can think of.






Its at the end of SAFE. now you don't have to be crazy anymore.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Tuesday, June 8, 2004 3:25 AM

KOIPOND


bao is a traditional Chinese dumpling, that are steamed. they're about the size of a dinner roll, white and in the center is usually pork, but anything can be out in them. the kind i've have at a dim sum place and i can buy at home taste not un-like a sloppy joe in wonder bread.

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Tuesday, June 8, 2004 5:14 AM

HIGHIRON02


Soilent Green is a protien. It also comes in the colors of orange and blue. This could be one of the inside jokes that JW also uses.

We got you partially surrounded.

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Tuesday, June 8, 2004 5:40 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


I guess the cat is out of the bag. Dr Atkins is not really dead. He placed himself in cryogenic sleep w/ instruction to be awakened in 2500 A.D. By then his diet empire will have absorbed Pepsi, Coca Cola, Nabisco, Phillip Morris, and Reynolds Metals. The new mega corp will be known as Blue Sun w/ a cyborg Dr Atkins as CEO and emperor for all time.

I do think that the "protein" they keep referring to is some sort of mix of food items that are used as basic sustenance for the planets out on the rim. It is probably used so often because it is easier to transport, is non-perishable, and cheaper than standard food stores.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Tuesday, June 8, 2004 6:03 AM

EST120


Quote:

Originally posted by Highiron02:
Soilent Green is a protien. It also comes in the colors of orange and blue. This could be one of the inside jokes that JW also uses.

We got you partially surrounded.




bwahahahahaha! that is great!

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Tuesday, June 8, 2004 6:32 AM

SHINYSEVEN


Actually, if you have a reasonably high-gluten flour it's good for yeast bread to put some soy flour in it. You can't make yeast bread with *just* soy flour though.

It's also possible that for cultural reasons they seldom have bread because a meal consists of rice plus whatever else is available--the Protein gets mentioned but the rice doesn't because it's assumed.

Sadistic crap legitimized by florid prose

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Tuesday, June 8, 2004 6:38 PM

JASONZZZ



"Sloppy Joe in Wonderbread" I think not. If it tasted like that, it's pretty crappy stuff you had.

Bao is not a dumpling, but a sweet roll made out of rice flour wrapped in some *stuff*. In "Char-Siu" Bao, you put the sweet roast pork in there. The Bao is usually steamed and is mighty delicious when eaten hot. They can also be baked into a golden brown crust.



There are varieties of fillings for Bao, some Bao are filled with chicken, vegetables, sweet egg custard, sweet cream, red bean paste, or lotus seed paste. Sometimes Bao are just plain and is good that way as well...

In Hawaii, the Bao took on a new life and the locals name it "Manapua" really a shortened form for "Manapua'a" meaning tasty bits of pork.


Quote:

Originally posted by koipond:
bao is a traditional Chinese dumpling, that are steamed. they're about the size of a dinner roll, white and in the center is usually pork, but anything can be out in them. the kind i've have at a dim sum place and i can buy at home taste not un-like a sloppy joe in wonder bread.





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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 1:42 PM

SHINYSEVEN


The Wall Street Journal advertising column for June 9 has a reader's question "Who or what is solae? I keep seeing the name in ads" and the answer is "It may sound a lot like Soylent Green, the mysterious foodstuff made from people in the 1973 film of the same name, but solae, my friend, is simply soy protein, or, according to press materials,"a high-quality, complete, plant-based protein ingredient that is fat and cholesterol free."

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Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:10 AM

CYBERSNARK


Well, if they weren't gonna buy it before you invoked that movie. . .

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Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:18 AM

BADGERSHAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Jasonzzz:

In Hawaii, the Bao took on a new life and the locals name it "Manapua" really a shortened form for "Manapua'a" meaning tasty bits of pork.




Gosh, what a nice shorter version they have...

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