GENERAL DISCUSSIONS

Cast Review -- The Championship Round

POSTED BY: DELIA
UPDATED: Thursday, May 27, 2004 06:47
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Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:40 AM

DELIA


NEW: Well, we're having a runoff, in another thread. Go vote.



On behalf of Elwoodmom and myself, I announce the championship round of the cast review, when we pit the winners from the three Joss shows up against each other to see who the board's all time favorite characters are.

The rules are simple -- one guy vote, one girl vote for each voter, voting closes midnight eastern time on Wednesday, May 26. You may only vote for the characters who have already won (in other words, votes for Mal will NOT be counted). You can mix and match series (for example, vote for Wesley and Kaylee). No voting by proxy. All votes must be cast in this thread. No changing your vote once it's been cast.

The Competitors:

Jayne Cobb, representing Firefly vs.
Spike, aka William the Bloody, representing Buffy vs.
Wesley Wyndam-Pryce, representing Angel

AND

Kaywinnet Lee Frye, representing Firefly vs.
Willow Rosenberg, representing Buffy, vs.
Winifred "Fred" Burkle/Illyria, representing Angel.

May the best characters win.


RESULTS
as of 5/26, pm

Jayne -- 16
Spike -- 16
Wesley -- 9

Kaylee -- 16
Willow -- 16
Fred/Illyria -- 9



___________________________________________
WESLEY : Feng shui.
GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:50 AM

BADGERSHAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Delia:
On behalf of Elwoodmom and myself, I announce the championship round of the cast review, when we pit the winners from the three Joss shows up against each other to see who the board's all time favorite characters are.

The Competitors:

Jayne Cobb, representing Firefly vs.
Spike, aka William the Bloody, representing Buffy vs.
Wesley Wyndam-Pryce, representing Angel

AND

Kaywinnet Lee Frye, representing Firefly vs.
Willow Rosenberg, representing Buffy, vs.
Winifred "Fred" Burkle/Illyria, representing Angel.

May the best characters win.

RESULTS




Too ruttin easy--

For the guys--
(sorry to Firefly fans, me included) Spike wins hands down (this is largely due to the fact that Spike was around 7 seasons, whereas Jayne had a rather truncated life, so far).

And for the girls--
Kaylee (I like Willow, but Kaylee rules... and Fred is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYY too skinny, plus she irritates the ever lovin snot out of me)...

SO, Spike and Kaylee win, end of it.

Jefé has spoken... well, typed, anyway...

--Jefé The Hat

***************************
"I like smackin 'em"--Jayne

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:53 AM

DELIA


Since I started this, guess I'd best cast my own votes --

Wesley (my favorite Joss character on any show, hands down)

Little harder to pick for the girls, but I've got to go with Willow.



___________________________________________
WESLEY : Feng shui.
GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:53 AM

MALICIOUS


Quote:

Originally posted by Delia:
You may only vote for the characters who have already won (in other words, votes for Mal will NOT be counted).




Mal and Kaylee

(oh, all RIGHT. Jayne then. Pains in the ass!)


Mal-licious

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:54 AM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1


This one is hard. I think i'll go with Spike and......wow, for the girls its a hard one... but i think i'll go with Fred, even though i love Kaylee like a lot a lot a lot, i'm going to have to go with Fred.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:06 AM

BIKISDAD


These are really tough choices...

This may just be an emotional reaction to "Angel" ending yesterday, but I'm going to go with Wes and Fred. As much as I really like the others, I think those two gave the best performances.

Yep, Wes and Fred.

"That'll put marzipan on your pie plate, bingo!"

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:54 AM

IDEFIX


ok. I'm gonna make it shortish today (it's late here and I'm tired):

girls first becasue it's easier:

my vote has to be: Willow
...there's nothing else, although Keylee is sweet in her own way. Fred doesn't even come into consideration. I have no problems chosing here because even if I had all the females from all the shows to chose I'd still take Willow.

for the men it's almost as easy but not quite

my vote goes to Spike
Wes would be a close second (if not as close as Giles would be or Simon if they were in the poll, but...). Jayne is a big dumb unciviliced turn off. sorry all the fans but he's really not my type. If I had all the males I'd be sitting here and thinking for days (Spike, Giles or Simon) so it's somewhat easier even if Wesley is a very possible choice too. I have to take some time to watch the last 2.5 seasons of Angel first before I can really decide against him. but that's not gonna happen til Wednesday so my vote is Spike.

and has someone noticed that Buffy and Angel both didn't do too well? that should be weird somehow but for me they were both really not the most interesting characters on either show.

Idefix

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:05 AM

DELIA


Quote:

Originally posted by Idefix:

and has someone noticed that Buffy and Angel both didn't do too well? that should be weird somehow but for me they were both really not the most interesting characters on either show.



Yes, I spotted that as I tallied the votes. But it didn't surprise me. The heroes of the shows have to stay heroes -- Angel's turns as Angelus aside. They can miss out on some interesting plotlines because they can't be too weak. They can't drift too far from centers of their characters. Nor are they necessarily the smartest -- both Buffy and Angel had a Watcher (in some capacity or another) around to do the research. The jobs of being funny, or clever, or getting the really wide-arcing plot lines went to other characters (Wes and Cordy in Angel, Willow and Xander in Buffy). The moderate in the middle, the center of the show, has trouble being as interesting as the people who can go to extremes and to edges.

Just to make this clear, this isn't a crisitism of Buffy or of Angel, both of whom I like well enough.

___________________________________________
WESLEY : Feng shui.
GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:24 AM

BRITCHICK


It's a tough one between Jayne and Wesley for me... they are both strong characters but so different.

Hmmm. Ok. Jayne. no Wesley. Ohhhhh. Jayne. Yes Jayne.


Girly vote is easy: Willow.

Looking forward to seeing the final outcome :)

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:39 AM

KARENKAY99


i can't decide. i'm not going to vote.

hey, i never made it to the firefly vote. would my vote for mal made a difference? (he is very handsome) and probably river? (she's so wacky :-)

ok, ok, i'll vote.
jayne
kaylee

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:02 PM

DELIA


Quote:

Originally posted by karenkay99:
hey, i never made it to the firefly vote. would my vote for mal made a difference? (he is very handsome)



Actually, yes. Mal and Jayne were tied, so there was a runoff vote that Jayne won.

Hey, Mal-licious, it's all KarenKay99's fault!

Thanks for the votes, y'all. Keep them coming.

___________________________________________
WESLEY : Feng shui.
GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:02 PM

MALICIOUS


Quote:

Originally posted by karenkay99:
Hey, i never made it to the firefly vote. would my vote for mal made a difference?




AAAaaaahhhhhhh!! (Mal-licious, shrieking and pulling out her own hair, runs from the room.)

Mal-licious

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:04 PM

MALICIOUS


Quote:

Originally posted by Delia:
Hey, Mal-licious, it's all KarenKay99's fault!



Delia!! Waahhh! Can we get a bouncer to have her removed??? Wahh!

Mal-licious

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:11 PM

DELIA


Quote:

Originally posted by Malicious:
Quote:

Originally posted by Delia:
Hey, Mal-licious, it's all KarenKay99's fault!



Delia!! Waahhh! Can we get a bouncer to have her removed??? Wahh!

Mal-licious



Shhhh, shhhh. It's going to be all right. We both know that Mal was robbed, and no matter what the Jayne supporters say, we have truth on our side, and know that Mal should be representing Firefly in this poll. But I can't throw the voters off the thread, sweetie, so you'll just have to settle for sending her nasty looks.

KarenKay99, hope we're not upsetting you. It's all in fun.

Delia

___________________________________________
WESLEY : Feng shui.
GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:16 PM

FIREFLEW


Well, my little title tells my female vote; Kaylee. As for male, I'm gonna represent the British sardonic guys and go with Spike.

Jayne: "Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I beat you with till you understand who's in command."

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:25 PM

ALIENZOOKEEPER


Definitely Wes for the guy, but as much as i liked Fred/Illyria this season, I'll go with Kaylee, because everybody loves Kaylee! (Hey, she could have her own show ;-)

Jayne gets an honorable mention though. Adam Baldwin is a great actor and I'm sure that we would have seen a lot of growth in Jayne. I think JW meant to kill him off for the 1st Season Finale, though...

vince the alien zookeeper

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:47 PM

MALICIOUS


Quote:

Originally posted by Delia:
Quote:

Shhhh, shhhh. It's going to be all right. We both know that Mal was robbed, and no matter what the Jayne supporters say, we have truth on our side, and know that Mal should be representing Firefly in this poll. But I can't throw the voters off the thread, sweetie, so you'll just have to settle for sending her nasty looks. B]


(sniff) ...well, ok. But she is EVIL (points at KarenKay99)! I will be the bigger person (once again, remember Neroli?) and forgive (bows head). (secretly plots revenge)

Mal-licious

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:01 PM

RUXTON


Wes and
Willow

BRILLIANT acting throughout by both.

.......Ruxton

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:25 PM

KARENKAY99


i'm so ashamed. :-(

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:43 PM

MALICIOUS


Quote:

Originally posted by karenkay99:
i'm so ashamed. :-(




Jeez! Now I feel bad! It's ok KarenKay99! Just make sure you vote for me on the Poster Review thread and all will be well!

Mal-licious

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:27 PM

PSELUS


I vote for both my Firefly homies
Jayne and Kaylee

"Big Damn Heroes sir."

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:42 PM

LIZ


Spike and Willow (nothing against my Firefly peeps, if Simon were here i'd be torn, but... well... there it is. Votes cast.)

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:14 PM

ELWOODMOM


>>
hey, i never made it to the firefly vote. would my vote for mal made a difference? (he is very handsome) and probably river? (she's so wacky :-)<<

KarenKay99, I'm the originator of the favorite cast member poll. Delia is nice enough to take on the 3-show poll, since I know squat about Angel and Buffy. Hey, everyone quit throwing tomatoes at me! (ducking to the right) Anyway, it was a very tight race between Mal and Jayne from day one. Like Delia mentioned, it came down to a special tie-breaker day, just so we could have resolution. I spread the thread to other areas, so that we may get as many votes as possible, and fair ones, too. Now, some may say that Jayne won only because Adam Baldwin communicates with the people on the board (well, the political folk, at least), but I must say, I forwarded this thread to a Mal Hottie thread, Wash is a Hottie thread, and Adam is a Hottie thread. I even found a Simon/Kaylee thread, devoted to their relationship. So, may I ask...HOW THE HECK DID YOU MISS MY POLL??

Ow...(ducking to the left) Rocks hurt, ya know!)

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:19 PM

LINDALE


Spike and Willow. I feel kinda bad voting for the two from Buffy, and thought about giving my man Wes the vote, but at the end, we're supposed to be voting solely on hotness factor, right? so Spike and Willow. Tho I do think it's intersting how the woman from each show isn't the one who's supposed to be the "hot one", but instead the one who's more the heart of the show (tho Cordy was like this in s3 AtS). And the guys who won aren't the hero-figure of their show, but instead the badass of the show (I'm thinking of ScruffyWes for him).

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:20 PM

ELWOODMOM


Delia, I may not know much about Buffy and Angel, but if anyone gives you grief here, let me know. (Speaking of, where's Gunhand?) I can hand out some mean time-outs!

I vote for Jayne. As I mentioned before, I've been a fan of AB's since the early 80's. As for the girls, well, I guess it will be Kaylee, since I don't know the other ladies. I voted for Zoe in the Firefly poll, but Kaylee was my second choice. Delia, do you count votes if people haven't seen all 3 shows?

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:44 PM

DELIA


Elwoodmom,

It's OK, I think we got the Mal thing under control. But if Gunhand shows up (when Gunhand shows up) I'll probably need you.

And, yes, I'm counting votes from anybody, so long as they vote for one of the winners of the original three polls. If they try to vote for Saffron, however . . . .

___________________________________________
WESLEY : Feng shui.
GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:47 PM

ELWOODMOM


Is Saffron still alive? I thought I took care of her!

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:51 PM

CAGEYBEE


oh my, the championcships....and the heat is on! my chica vote is easy...willow.

as usual, the male vote gets me all hormonal and flushed. its between jayne and spike for me. wes its just too much of a good guy. i'm a bad boy lover....usually leads to

ok, i vote for gunhand...i mean jayne (since the picture on the MAL WINS thread, i keep getting them confused ) first of all, because given the option, i'll be in jayne's bunk instead of spike's crypt (ewy, dank!) and i just read the the above post that joss was maybe going to kill him off in the first season finale?!?!? joss and i would have had words... so, finally, willow and jayne.

also, i just like all you mal lovers to know, it was really, really hard for me to write MAL WINS in my post, but secretly i wish he was here instead of wes. *joins elwoodmom in ducking rocks.....no thanks to her elbow-macaroni decorated tin foil hat*

me

~Mal- "how drunk was i last night?"
~Jayne- "i don't know. i passed out."

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:55 PM

DELIA


Cageybee,

Since Wes is here representing the one show Nathan WASN'T on, no chance of Mal replacing Wes. Sorry.

Delia

___________________________________________
WESLEY : Feng shui.
GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 6:00 PM

CAGEYBEE


delia, i know, no mal...and i have my jayne, so i shouldn't complain. this was just my concession to all the mal fans....i feel i may have started some bad blood with all my jayne raving.....

me

~Mal- "how drunk was i last night?"
~Jayne- "i don't know. i passed out."

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 6:04 PM

DELIA


Quote:

Originally posted by cageybee:
delia, i know, no mal...and i have my jayne, so i shouldn't complain. this was just my concession to all the mal fans....i feel i may have started some bad blood with all my jayne raving.....




Just don't go making concessions to the Mal fans by picking fights with us Wes fans. Especially not when we're the ones counting the votes!

Kidding. Votes will be accurately counted. Or, at least, I'll make every effort to count them accurately. It can get a little confusing, especially when people don't cast both their votes at once.

___________________________________________
WESLEY : Feng shui.
GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 6:18 PM

SIGMANUNKI


Spike
Willow Rosenberg (early Willow )

Damn you for making me choose between Willow and Kaylee *shakes fist*.

----
"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 6:27 PM

CAGEYBEE


uh, delia.........oh god, i'm so scared. what if i hurt jayne's chances? *goes ghostly white* i got stupid, the possibility of being loved was too good.

can i still help with the library in ThisLand or am i fired for insubordination?

me

~Mal- "how drunk was i last night?"
~Jayne- "i don't know. i passed out."

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 6:59 PM

NEROLI


For the guys...JAYNE, of course.

For the girls....ARGH!!! My picks in each thread are here!! Ok ~deep breath~ I am going with Illyria.

Goddess Of The Sandbox

http://p221.ezboard.com/bfireflyfanficawards

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:00 PM

BECKINSALE


Guy vote couldn't be easier! SPIKE! Now if Simon were involved, I'd have a problem.

The girl vote is tough.

Willow. No, Fred. Nah, Willow. I CAN'T DO THIS! Okay, yes, Willow it is.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:12 PM

POOKIE


Jayne and Kaylee

May the wind at your back never be your own

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:52 PM

DELIA


Quote:

Originally posted by cageybee:
uh, delia.........oh god, i'm so scared. what if i hurt jayne's chances? *goes ghostly white* i got stupid, the possibility of being loved was too good.

can i still help with the library in ThisLand or am i fired for insubordination?



I guess I'll let you stay. Let's just say you're on probation. Off to retotal the votes, so we can see if you've done any damage to Jayne's chances.

___________________________________________
WESLEY : Feng shui.
GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:10 PM

AERELORN


Not an easy choice with these competitors, but I've gotta go with Willow and Spike.

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Friday, May 21, 2004 1:15 AM

KARENKAY99


Quote:

Originally posted by Elwoodmom:
>>
So, may I ask...HOW THE HECK DID YOU MISS MY POLL??



i think this might have started the week i was on vacation. i saw the hottie threads but they were so big and i didn't have time to get through it all so i didn't open. i've missed a few evenings with the nicer weather and all. i got a blister on my middle right finger and it made typing painful. i broke my baby toe and have been limping around alot. i usually post in the evenings after a couple glasses of wine so my vision might have been a little blurry.

is that enough excuses? i'm sure i can think up some more. :-)

i promise to do better.

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

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Friday, May 21, 2004 1:27 AM

KARENKAY99


Quote:

Originally posted by Malicious:
Quote:

Originally posted by karenkay99:
i'm so ashamed. :-(




Jeez! Now I feel bad! It's ok KarenKay99! Just make sure you vote for me on the Poster Review thread and all will be well!

Mal-licious



done, but i think i was too late for this one too.
please see excuses sent to elwoodmom.

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

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Friday, May 21, 2004 2:35 AM

DAVEY


My votes are Jayne for the fellas and Willow for the gals.

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Friday, May 21, 2004 2:41 AM

MSCKAREN


Willow for the girls. In my dreams of Angel everlasting, she's the one who comes in to save the day for our remaining champions...

Gotta go with Jayne for the guys. I love Wes and Spike but AB as Jayne was just too perfect/fun...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Appears they've canceled the show and we're still here. What does that make us?"
"Big damn junkies, Sir!"
"Ain't we just."

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Friday, May 21, 2004 2:47 AM

FIREFLYGAL


Firefly all the way!
Jayne and Kaylee, Jayne and Kaylee, Jayne and Kaylee, Jayne and Kaylee....oh that still only counts as one vote, huh?

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Friday, May 21, 2004 3:49 AM

WREN


Jayne and Kaylee and I promise not to argue this time, though I will probably sulk if they don't win.

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Friday, May 21, 2004 5:10 AM

ELWOODMOM


Quote:

Originally posted by karenkay99:
Quote:

Originally posted by Elwoodmom:
>>
So, may I ask...HOW THE HECK DID YOU MISS MY POLL??



i think this might have started the week i was on vacation. i saw the hottie threads but they were so big and i didn't have time to get through it all so i didn't open. i've missed a few evenings with the nicer weather and all. i got a blister on my middle right finger and it made typing painful. i broke my baby toe and have been limping around alot. i usually post in the evenings after a couple glasses of wine so my vision might have been a little blurry.

is that enough excuses? i'm sure i can think up some more. :-)

i promise to do better.

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."



Maybe you could say your fish ate your computer! Someone actually used that excuse!

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Friday, May 21, 2004 5:11 AM

ELWOODMOM


Quote:

Originally posted by Wren:
Jayne and Kaylee and I promise not to argue this time, though I will probably sulk if they don't win.



Good choice!

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Friday, May 21, 2004 5:12 AM

ELWOODMOM


Quote:

Originally posted by fireflygal:
Firefly all the way!
Jayne and Kaylee, Jayne and Kaylee, Jayne and Kaylee, Jayne and Kaylee....oh that still only counts as one vote, huh?



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Friday, May 21, 2004 5:14 AM

ELWOODMOM


Quote:

Originally posted by Beckinsale:
Guy vote couldn't be easier! SPIKE! Now if Simon were involved, I'd have a problem.

The girl vote is tough.

Willow. No, Fred. Nah, Willow. I CAN'T DO THIS! Okay, yes, Willow it is.



I voted for Kaylee, but I noticed that Willow is winning. She seems intriguing...is she as sweet as Kaylee?

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Friday, May 21, 2004 5:49 AM

LISSA


i gotta vote for wes & fred, since wes is my fave character in all of the jossverse and fred is just so...fred-like. fresley forever!

~lissa, spwhore

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Friday, May 21, 2004 10:19 AM

SETALLE


I'm going to have to go with Wes and Fred/Illyria as well.

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