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R.I.P. Neil Armstrong. :(

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Saturday, August 25, 2012 9:22 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Just heard the news that Neil Armstrong has died.

Sad news and a great loss.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."


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Saturday, August 25, 2012 9:51 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


One giant leap into the unknown.



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Saturday, August 25, 2012 12:20 PM

PENGUIN


RIP








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Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:56 PM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, August 25, 2012 3:36 PM

TRAVELER


Good-by to one of the men who lead the way.


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Sunday, August 26, 2012 1:11 AM

CATPIRATE


A GIANT MAN, Naval Aviator. Attack Pilot in the Korean War flew many bombing missions against the communists. Astronaut, legendary skill flying to land Lunar Module. All manual and by eye. Amazing. Engineer and College Professor. That is quite a life. Did not do a lot of interviews or time in the spot light. That generation is soon to be gone. RIP

Thunderbirds are Go!

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Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:50 AM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by CATPIRATE:
Did not do a lot of interviews or time in the spot light.



Heck, the only interviews I know that he did for the public are during "When We Left Earth" and this Australian one.

http://thebottomline.cpaaustralia.com.au/

RIP


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Sunday, August 26, 2012 7:02 AM

REAVERFAN


A good guy, by all accounts. RIP.

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Sunday, August 26, 2012 9:34 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Neil Armstrong assassinated by Obama's starwhackers
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=52856&mid=90877
5#908775


Quote:

“I’m very concerned that the new plan, as I understand it, will prohibit us from having human access to low-earth orbit on our own rockets and spacecraft until the private aerospace industry is able to qualify their hardware under development as rated for human occupancy. With regard to President Obama’s 2010 plan, I have yet to find a person in NASA, the Defense Department, the Air Force, the national academies, industry or academia that had any knowledge of the plan prior to its announcement.'
-Neil Armstrong, CNS News, Obama’s NASA Plan a ‘Blueprint for a Mission to Nowhere’

"Private contractors are whacking people like crazy over for the CIA. It seems to have marked the first time the U.S. government outsourced a covert assassination service to private enterprise. Running operations through Blackwater gave the CIA the power to have people abducted, or killed, with no one in the government being exactly responsible. The program was kept from Congress for seven years. And when Leon Panetta told legislators about it in 2009, he revealed that the CIA had hired the private security firm Blackwater to help run it. Enrique Prado, a high-ranking CIA-officer-turned-Blackwater-employee, oversaw assassination units for both the CIA and the contractor. A federal organized crime squad run out of the Miami-Dade Police Department produced an investigation allegedly tying Prado to seven murders carried out while he worked as a bodyguard for a narco crime boss. At the time, the CIA declared him unavailable for questioning; the investigation was shut down before he was arrested or tried. While Blackwater's covert unit began as a Bush administration story, President Obama now owns it. In 2010, his administration intervened on behalf of the Blackwater executives indicted for weapons trafficking, filing motions to suppress evidence on the grounds that it could compromise national security. The administration then awarded Blackwater (which is now called Academi) a $250 million contract to perform unspecified services for the CIA. At the same time, Obama has publicly taken responsibility for some lethal operations -- the Navy SEALs' sniper attack on Somali pirates, the raid on bin Laden. His aides have also said that he reviews target lists for drone strikes. The president's actions give him the appearance of a man who wants the best of both worlds. He appears as a tough, resolute leader when he announces his role in killings that will likely be popular -- a pirate, a terrorist. But the apparatus for less accountable killings grinds on."
-The Atlantic, How to Get Away With Murder in America: The Terrifying Background of the Man Who Ran a CIA Assassination Unit, 18 Jul 2012

"In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba. Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities. The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war. America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: 'We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba,' and, 'casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.' The Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba, the documents show. Should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, they wrote, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof … that the fault lies with the Communists."
-ABC News, U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With Cuba, 1 May 2001
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/



Pirate News Convinces Neil Armstrong Moon Landing Was Faked
http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2012/08/neil-armstrong-assassinated-
nasa-has.html


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Monday, August 27, 2012 2:46 PM

RIONAEIRE

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Every time I watch footage of the luner landing I'm in awe, amazing and never loses its hold on me, one would have to be so brave to do that.

:(

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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:42 AM

LEMMING


That footage always takes me right back to 1969. My parents woke me and my brother to come downstairs and watch the grainy footage on our modest black and white TV (well they nearly all were then) as it happened. Must have been about 3 or 4 in the morning UK time. I was 5. That moment and that wonder has stayed with me ever since and the guys at the sharp end who paved the way like Armstrong deserve our deepest respect. And he really did manually fly that damn tin can down to the ground because the original site was full of rocks, with just 20 seconds of fuel left. Not the first time he'd saved a spaceship either - he flew a Gemini I think it was out of a deadly spin in orbit. There's a reason they used test pilots in those early days! Hero is a very overused word these days, but he and so many of those other pioneers deserve the name.

Just sad that he didn't live to see humans return to the moon...but then none of us are getting any younger! I hope I do see it someday before it's too late.

Nick

The Signal < www.serenityfirefly.com>;

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Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:08 AM

ANONYMOUSE


I was 4 months short of my 4th birthday on that day; I remember my entire family was watching the coverage for over two days. It's one of my earliest memories.

The way things are going, I doubt I'll live to see us going back. But I hope I do, with all my heart. We must go back. There's so much to learn, and do.

There's one way it might happen: if private investors bypass NASA completely, mount a mining expedition to a Near-Earth Asteroid, and bring back so much mineral wealth that money will cease to have any meaning. Some of those puppies are practically made of valuable metals.

Here's hoping. Best wishes to Neil's family and friends. :(

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Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:25 AM

LEMMING


Preaching to the converted here mate. Jerry Pournelle (Dr Pournelle, worked on the physical tests for astronauts early in the space programme amongst other things) wrote about doing exactly that, with *existing* technology, back in the 70s in his A Step Farther Out articles in Galaxy magazine and of course his long time (SF fiction) collaborator Larry Niven was one of many writers to have asteroid miners (Belters) in stories before that. It's almost a no brainer to exploit all the mineral goodies (iron alone in fact would make it worthwhile) out there. Unlimited solar power would be a side benefit :-)

(If you can pick up the 2 volumes of the collected A Step Farther Out second hand, they are still well worth a read for any space nerd)

I just hope future generations (and it saddens me too that it will be future ones and not ours probably) are able to create the infrastructure that allows "survival with style". Who knows, private space venures are an early stage reality now and companies that can see money in space will want access. Fingers crossed. I want to see more real spaceships, a abase on the moonm Mars, all the things that the Apollo age promised as possible and that folk like Armstrong wanted (still do) to see become a reality. That would be his and their best legacy.

Nick

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Monday, September 3, 2012 8:35 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


A quiet humble hero.........R.I.P.

Now there's a real hero and great man of our generation.

sgg

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Tuesday, September 4, 2012 3:41 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Quote:

Originally posted by Lemming:
I just hope future generations (and it saddens me too that it will be future ones and not ours probably) are able to create the infrastructure that allows "survival with style". Who knows, private space venures are an early stage reality now and companies that can see money in space will want access. Fingers crossed. I want to see more real spaceships, a abase on the moonm Mars, all the things that the Apollo age promised as possible and that folk like Armstrong wanted (still do) to see become a reality. That would be his and their best legacy.


Where's D. D. Harriman when you need him?

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Wednesday, September 5, 2012 10:57 AM

FLORALBUNNY


RIP, Sir. There's nothing more to say.

bun

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Friday, September 7, 2012 8:57 AM

LOOTZEE


you could not call him a smooth criminal but he was the first person to do the moonwalk

It is said that he used to tell really bad jokes about the moon then at the end say I guess you had to be there,now that's class.

RIP

"The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching"

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