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could serenity possibly be built?

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Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM

G1NG3


all opinions welcome

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Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:59 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


As in a real spaceship, no. As in a full size replica, sure why not.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:25 AM

WISHIMAY

"Well, so long Earth...Thanks for the air... and what-not" -Philip J. Fry


There's a guy by the name of Iain85 says he's got half the funds ready ta do so, and says he thinks the logistics would check...
One could always hope....
If you got some ways ta help, lemme know and I'll find the thread for ya...

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Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:21 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


I would think you would have to start with the internal parts of the ship first. Deciding on the Firefly design or the Serenity design. Then build the exterior around it. It will not be perfect because the interior never really could fit in the exterior model, well except for the very early boxy model.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:10 PM

THEMACROPROSOPUS

Hey, look; Steve the Pirate.


I find this question to point out the unfortunate irony of the story of Firefly (like, the story-story. Not the tale of how the best show ever got canned). Yeah, I'd imagine the ship could be made. Mass-produced, and sold alongside all the other ships floating around, out there.

But, the problem is cash. Maybe I'm being too nearsighted, but, given the current economy, funding even one Firefly model would be impossible. It'd bankrupt just about anyone. Conversely, given that the Firefly universe is based upon China and the USA being the only remaining superpowers. Perhaps that leads to a monstrous shift in global economies. Yet, if we've overpopulated the planet to the point that we have to find more, I would imagine money would be pretty sparse. Unless ships like Serenity are only made common after the repopulation. Maybe we all take off from Earth on just a few ships, and then spread out after.

It's funny. I watched Titan A.E. recently. While Joss has stated that there are no aliens in the Firefly universe (which seems awfully narrow to me, really. We have telepaths, and countless new planets. Yet, still no visits from the new neighbours?), I can't help but feel as though the origin stories of both tales are the same.

In short: yes. Serenity could be made. Not anytime soon, though.



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Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:45 AM

JO753

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I dont think it will ever be a practical dezine.

It haz apparently contradictory andor superflous propulsion tek. If you can generate gravity and negate inertia, you dont need articulated main thrusterz. You probably woudnt need any thrusterz at all, at least for moving around in a solar system.

However, there iz alwayz the possibility uv over reaching intermediate teknolojy. It often rezults in weird and clumzy products. There were actually vinyl record video machinez back in the 70'z, for example. 8 LPz for 1 movie!

Then therez plain intermediate tek - a point where its actually practical to make products, even tho its obvious they arent going to be the ultimate form for the function. Thingz like 8 track, or lazer disk moviez.

I gess its possible that a less than 100% effective gravity and inertia control science could develop that could make spaceships feasible with the help uv super (relative to todayz) fuel rockets. In such a case, all sorts uv oddly shaped heavy hulled ships woud make sense.



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Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


If we were to somehow create the impossible warp drive that Blieder accidentially created in Eric Frank Russell's 1951 Novel "The Great Explosion", anything would be possible....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Explosion



I know ya all love Joss, but give props to Mr. Russell for being a great inspiratioin to him for Firefly...

Quote:

The Blieder drive, a faster-than-light drive system, has permitted the population of Earth to colonize the galaxy. Each planet has become the home for a particular social group. Four hundred years after the diaspora, a spaceship from Earth visits three of the planets, the first steps to unifying the galaxy under a new Empire. Things do not go entirely as hoped, as the incompetent military authoritarians of the ship encounter three very different societies.

The first planet was a penal colony; it is now many independent kleptocratic despotisms preying on each other. The second planet, Hygeia, is populated by health and fitness fanatic nudists. The third planet, Kassim, was colonized by a religious group, but when the ship arrives, they can't find any human life, only empty villages overgrown by jungle. They decide not to land on the planet, because the captain fears that the colonists could have been killed by a disease and he doesn't want to endanger the crew. The final planet, K22g, has developed an unusual social system. The population call themselves Gands (after Gandhi) and practise a form of classless, philosophically anarchic libertarianism, based on passive resistance ("Freedom - I won't!" and "Myob!"); and a moneyless gift economy based on barter and favor-exchange, using "obs" (obligations). To perform a service for somebody "lays an ob" on them; they can then "kill the ob" by returning the favor.[1]





The whole "planet where people juggled geese" thing, I believe was an off handed homage to The Great Explosion.

In fact, I think the entire Firefly Universe is a fantastic homage to that story.....

Joss took the original book and turned it into something people in the 2000's would appreciate and made it his own in the process...

It just pisses me off that he got umteen years making that hack show Buffy about BS when he only got one year to work on Firefly. The places we could have traveled together if he got an 8 year run with the Firefly license....


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Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:37 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


I'm going to read that book! Never herd uv Frank Russel before and I've read a bunch uv sifi.

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Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:53 AM

IMNOTHERE


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
It haz apparently contradictory andor superflous propulsion tek. If you can generate gravity and negate inertia, you dont need articulated main thrusterz. You probably woudnt need any thrusterz at all, at least for moving around in a solar system.



Since the propulsion tech is entirely fictional, it can be subject to whatever rules and restrictions the author fancies. If you have read much SF then you'll know that it is well established that engaging your primary drive too close to a planet is batshit insane. Probably because thrusters are cool, or it is dramatically useful for our heroes not to be able to just hit the hyperspace button and get out of trouble. See the Firefly pilot: engage main drive in atmo = earth-shattering kaboom.

Serenity may not have a faster-than-light drive, but to be able to cross a giant, multiple-star solar system in a few days is almost as fantastical as FTL. In fact, for FTL, all we need is for some mad scientist to discover some magic instantaneous wormhole drive exploiting some hitherto unknown physical principle. To fly across a solar system at a tenth of the speed of light would involve solving problems based on all-too well established physical principles, such as carrying enough fuel to achieve such speeds, not getting squished by the acceleration and avoiding being vaporised by the first grain of dust you hit.

Gravity is generated on TV and movie spaceships by application of the strong economic force and no-string theory - basically, the studio couldn't afford to have the cast hanging around on wires for every episode, so it better bloody well have gravity.

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Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:51 PM

WISHIMAY

"Well, so long Earth...Thanks for the air... and what-not" -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I know ya all love Joss, but give props to Mr. Russell for being a great inspiratioin to him for Firefly...


Speaking of inspirations...
I watched a movie today on TV called Sleepover, in which Summer hada bit part, but the heroine was a dead ringer for Morena...

Wonder where he got the idea for her looks

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