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Whedon: still hasn't given up on Firefly

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Monday, March 12, 2012 9:16 AM

CANTTAKESKY


http://blastr.com/2012/03/joss-whedon-says-he-still.php

Quote:

It's been nearly a decade since the beloved, short-lived Fox sci-fi western Firefly graced the airwaves, but creator Joss Whedon says he's still game to return to the universe that made him (more of) a cult icon.

Though he's moved on to much bigger projects (you may have heard of his latest film, The Avengers?), Whedon said in a SXSW panel over the weekend that Firefly still holds a big place in his heart, and if given the chance, he'd make another movie—or a few more seasons—in a heartbeat.

"I keep thinking they're going to call me, crunch the numbers and say 'Hey, we can make money from this!'—but they don't," he was quoted as saying by Indiewire. "I would never rule it out, I love those people. But I can't just wait by the phone."

Though almost all of the cast and crew have moved on to bigger and better things since the final chapter in the Firefly saga, the 2005 film Serenity, it's nice to know that Whedon still thinks about the continuing adventures of Captain Mal Reynolds and the gang.

What do you think? Would you like to see a 10-year Firefly reunion?



Boy, would I!

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Monday, March 12, 2012 9:49 AM

BYTEMITE


Absolutely! Except the money issue and Fox isn't exactly going to let Whedon do it independent I guess.

But we have his brother doing Firefly comics. So that's something.

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Monday, March 12, 2012 10:01 AM

ZEEK


Sounds like the polite answer of someone who has moved on. "I wouldn't rule it out" is like saying "I wouldn't hold your breath" but in a nice way.

I'd be more afraid at this point that Fox will decide to do a low cost spinoff or reboot without Joss or any of the BDHs. Seems like the type of thing they'd do if they decided to throw some money at the franchise.

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Monday, March 12, 2012 10:06 AM

OONJERAH



    Universal was able to make Serenity ... same cast, same ship ...
    they just couldn't say, "Firefly." FOX owns "Firefly" only.
    Is that correct?




             

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Monday, March 12, 2012 10:11 AM

BYTEMITE


Apparently Fox bought the rights to Serenity too, so it's all under one house now.

Which is both potentially good (despite the historical treatment, might indicate a continuing interest in the franchise) and potentially bad (see previous).

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Monday, March 12, 2012 10:42 AM

PENQUIN11


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Apparently Fox bought the rights to Serenity too, so it's all under one house now.

Which is both potentially good (despite the historical treatment, might indicate a continuing interest in the franchise) and potentially bad (see previous).



I agree. Serenity (movie) has been sucessful on both Netflix and Itunes, as well have the firefly tv shows. With the recent re-running of the original episodes FOX might make a move to rejuvinate the show. With no other Scifi show to oppose it- and a surprising downward trend in the sucess of reality TV shows FOX might pull the trigger.

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Monday, March 12, 2012 11:09 AM

OLDGUY

What Would Mal do ?


can't blame Joss for being so completely involved right now in a project the size of Avengers..but I do believe him when he discusses his passion for his Firefly...with all the amazing credits on his bio...there really seems to be a special place for this product..sometimes I'm sure it was more a "special hell" and yet, I think he'd enjoy taking a second pass at it...if the day comes when he's not being tapped for big money/big budget flicks like Avengers..

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Monday, March 12, 2012 11:32 AM

SISTER


...*sigh*...if only.

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Monday, March 12, 2012 11:40 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by PENQUIN11:

I agree. Serenity (movie) has been sucessful on both Netflix and Itunes, as well have the firefly tv shows. With the recent re-running of the original episodes FOX might make a move to rejuvinate the show. With no other Scifi show to oppose it- and a surprising downward trend in the sucess of reality TV shows FOX might pull the trigger.



Success at the box office might be a part of the equation though.

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Monday, March 12, 2012 11:54 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Joss should have insisted that on the top of the Avengers poster they put:
From the Creator of FIREFLY & SERENITY

Oh well.....




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Monday, March 12, 2012 12:18 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
http://blastr.com/2012/03/joss-whedon-says-he-still.php

Quote:

It's been nearly a decade since the beloved, short-lived Fox sci-fi western Firefly graced the airwaves, but creator Joss Whedon says he's still game to return to the universe that made him (more of) a cult icon.

Though he's moved on to much bigger projects (you may have heard of his latest film, The Avengers?), Whedon said in a SXSW panel over the weekend that Firefly still holds a big place in his heart, and if given the chance, he'd make another movie—or a few more seasons—in a heartbeat.

"I keep thinking they're going to call me, crunch the numbers and say 'Hey, we can make money from this!'—but they don't," he was quoted as saying by Indiewire. "I would never rule it out, I love those people. But I can't just wait by the phone."

Though almost all of the cast and crew have moved on to bigger and better things since the final chapter in the Firefly saga, the 2005 film Serenity, it's nice to know that Whedon still thinks about the continuing adventures of Captain Mal Reynolds and the gang.

What do you think? Would you like to see a 10-year Firefly reunion?



Boy, would I!



So quit talking and get to work on it Joss, I thought the cast agreed to 3 movies! It's been 10 years, quit blaming FOX and try a reboot on Syfy! Just don't ask for to much money, they like their Sci-Fi cheap.

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Monday, March 12, 2012 3:43 PM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Sounds like the polite answer of someone who has moved on. "I wouldn't rule it out" is like saying "I wouldn't hold your breath" but in a nice way.


Gods, why are you always so negative??


Facts are stubborn things.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:52 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Zeek, you are beginning to damage my calm!




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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:12 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by LiLi:
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Sounds like the polite answer of someone who has moved on. "I wouldn't rule it out" is like saying "I wouldn't hold your breath" but in a nice way.


Gods, why are you always so negative??



Don't confuse delusional with positive. In the same way don't confuse realistic with negative.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:19 AM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Don't confuse delusional with positive. In the same way don't confuse realistic with negative.


A completely useless answer, continuing your tradition of being wholly negative and calling it "rational" or "realistic." I'm all for rational and everything, but you tend to go beyond that. Realistic could easily be something along the lines of, "This is nice to hear. It's too bad that tangled legal issues and the decade spent in limbo make a comeback somewhat unlikely." But no. You can't ever be sensible without being belligerent, saying that Whedon has personally given up on the franchise and anyone who believes otherwise is delusional. I'm not confusing realistic with negative, because you are not being simply realistic, you are clearly using it as an excuse to be negative and insulting. And this is hardly the first time I've seen it; you do this every time anyone shows the least bit of excitement over a shout-out to Firefly, or an interview about Firefly, or speculation about whether another movie could get made. News flash: this is a site for fans, and little sparks of joy over such things is what we do. It's the same on any fansite. The only thing that makes this one unique is that we have the rare opportunity to squee over such things even though Firefly has been off the air for years. Very few shows that are no longer running get any attention at all, but if they did you could bet their fandom would talk about it. We're lucky. We get something to talk about on a fairly regular basis. It seems you have no desire to talk about it, only to dismiss it and insult anyone who doesn't follow your lead. I don't understand why you're on a fansite for a show you seem to have no affection for.


Facts are stubborn things.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:36 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by LiLi:
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Sounds like the polite answer of someone who has moved on. "I wouldn't rule it out" is like saying "I wouldn't hold your breath" but in a nice way.


Gods, why are you always so negative??


Facts are stubborn things.



Ive asked that for a couple years.

Note to self: Come up with some pity-baiting sig line so everyone sees how persecuted poor wittle me is. Then I can be just like Rappy!

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:37 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
http://blastr.com/2012/03/joss-whedon-says-he-still.php

Quote:

It's been nearly a decade since the beloved, short-lived Fox sci-fi western Firefly graced the airwaves, but creator Joss Whedon says he's still game to return to the universe that made him (more of) a cult icon.

Though he's moved on to much bigger projects (you may have heard of his latest film, The Avengers?), Whedon said in a SXSW panel over the weekend that Firefly still holds a big place in his heart, and if given the chance, he'd make another movie—or a few more seasons—in a heartbeat.

"I keep thinking they're going to call me, crunch the numbers and say 'Hey, we can make money from this!'—but they don't," he was quoted as saying by Indiewire. "I would never rule it out, I love those people. But I can't just wait by the phone."

Though almost all of the cast and crew have moved on to bigger and better things since the final chapter in the Firefly saga, the 2005 film Serenity, it's nice to know that Whedon still thinks about the continuing adventures of Captain Mal Reynolds and the gang.

What do you think? Would you like to see a 10-year Firefly reunion?



Boy, would I!



So quit talking and get to work on it Joss, I thought the cast agreed to 3 movies! It's been 10 years, quit blaming FOX and try a reboot on Syfy! Just don't ask for to much money, they like their Sci-Fi cheap.



You really have no idea how the business works, do you?

Note to self: Come up with some pity-baiting sig line so everyone sees how persecuted poor wittle me is. Then I can be just like Rappy!

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:17 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by LiLi:
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Sounds like the polite answer of someone who has moved on. "I wouldn't rule it out" is like saying "I wouldn't hold your breath" but in a nice way.


Gods, why are you always so negative??


Ive asked that for a couple years.


As have I. Not just negative, but antagonistic. The fact that it seems deliberate and unabashed but is followed with claims of innocence and "misunderstanding" makes such attitudes even more grating.


To answer the original question, yes of course I would like to see a ten-year anniversary. That would make me giddy. (Like just about everyone here, I don't expect it, but I would obviously like it.)



What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:24 AM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
yes of course I would like to see a ten-year anniversary. That would make me giddy. (Like just about everyone here, I don't expect it, but I would obviously like it.)


That you even need to point out the distinction is kind of sad. I take it as writ that no one here is expecting anything, and only taking enjoyment from the idea.


Facts are stubborn things.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:32 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by LiLi:
A completely useless answer, continuing your tradition of being wholly negative and calling it "rational" or "realistic." I'm all for rational and everything, but you tend to go beyond that. Realistic could easily be something along the lines of, "This is nice to hear. It's too bad that tangled legal issues and the decade spent in limbo make a comeback somewhat unlikely." But no. You can't ever be sensible without being belligerent, saying that Whedon has personally given up on the franchise and anyone who believes otherwise is delusional. I'm not confusing realistic with negative, because you are not being simply realistic, you are clearly using it as an excuse to be negative and insulting. And this is hardly the first time I've seen it; you do this every time anyone shows the least bit of excitement over a shout-out to Firefly, or an interview about Firefly, or speculation about whether another movie could get made. News flash: this is a site for fans, and little sparks of joy over such things is what we do. It's the same on any fansite. The only thing that makes this one unique is that we have the rare opportunity to squee over such things even though Firefly has been off the air for years. Very few shows that are no longer running get any attention at all, but if they did you could bet their fandom would talk about it. We're lucky. We get something to talk about on a fairly regular basis. It seems you have no desire to talk about it, only to dismiss it and insult anyone who doesn't follow your lead. I don't understand why you're on a fansite for a show you seem to have no affection for.


It's quite simple. The thread title is misleading to the point of being cruel IMO. Joss basically said he moved on but if someone called him up to make more he wouldn't rule it out. So, instead of focus on the part where he's moved on to projects that are actually being made it focuses on the chance that some studio might come out of no where and ask for more TV or a movie. Added to the fact that every thread like this has presented false hope for going on 8 years now.

I honestly have no idea why you get so worked up about it. There was nothing insulting in what I said. If anything you jumped into the thread looking for a fight.

Implying I'm not a fan is plain silly. If you feel the need to be dismissive of others go right ahead. You're welcome to your opinion. Just as much as I'm welcome to disagree with it.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:17 PM

RIONAEIRE

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Zeke and I have different reasons to be negative. I think Zeke just doesn't think it will happen so why get excited ... again? I'm afraid that Joss will bring it back and rut it up. I don't trust anyone, even its creator, with my favorite show.

But it would be really cool if they made a ten year reunion show where they all talk about their experiences with Firefly, talk about what it was like doing the show, and getting together again to do the movie, talk about what Firefly means to them etc. I'd like to watch that and no one could screw that up.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:23 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Zeke and I have different reasons to be negative. I think Zeke just doesn't think it will happen so why get excited ... again? I'm afraid that Joss will bring it back and rut it up. I don't trust anyone, even its creator, with my favorite show.



Yeah that more or less. Joss has been saying different renditions of the same thing for years and we can plainly see there is no Firefly revival. The Browncoat community is like the boy who cried wolf for 8 straight years.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:38 AM

BARLONG


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Zeke and I have different reasons to be negative. I think Zeke just doesn't think it will happen so why get excited ... again? I'm afraid that Joss will bring it back and rut it up. I don't trust anyone, even its creator, with my favorite show.



Yeah that more or less. Joss has been saying different renditions of the same thing for years and we can plainly see there is no Firefly revival. The Browncoat community is like the boy who cried wolf for 8 straight years.




I agree with you. Of course I would be more than happy if a new episode came out

PS: I think Firefly and Serenity will stay perfect because time will have no affect in the story since it run only for one year

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Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:35 AM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
The Browncoat community is like the boy who cried wolf for 8 straight years.


Please point out where in this thread anyone said, "OMG Firefly is coming back u guise OMG!"

Right. No one did.



For you to say that I came in here looking for a fight is petty, and a neat attempt to paint me as the bad guy. I was looking for no such thing; I'm just sick of your insulting and negative behavior. I was looking for a few moments of giddiness and joy in my day, and instead I encounter this negativity again. As I said, you do this all the time. Yet you're surprised that anyone would call you on it? And pointing out the fact makes me the bad guy? Oh right, because I'm just "misunderstanding" you, right? Calling people delusional isn't meant as an insult, of course, and it's ridiculous that such statements would offend anyone. Saying more-or-less outright that Joss Whedon is lying, when he has no reason to, is clearly just an indication of how much you like Firefly and hold its writers and creators in respect.

Obviously I need to restate: Taking joy in anyone still talking about a show we love is what fans do. No one here has any illusions that it means more than it means, so your implications of delusion are, again, insulting. Posturing as though you act for the greater good, saying that the thread title is "cruel" and you alone have the wherewithal to stand against the "false hope," is totally laughable. The thread title is accurate in its wording. It references a quote from Joss Whedon that he would like to continue the story, were it possible. There is no implication that any offers have been made, or that Whedon is abandoning any projects, or anything else you seem to be implying with all your "delusional crying wolf" nonsense. You act out of distain rather than concern, behavior I find incomprehensible on a fan board.
If you hate threads like this sooo much, they should be fairly easy to avoid. Just don't click on anything that has "Firefly" in the subject line. You'll be set.


Facts are stubborn things.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:04 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by LiLi:
As I said, you do this all the time. Yet you're surprised that anyone would call you on it? And pointing out the fact makes me the bad guy? Oh right, because I'm just "misunderstanding" you, right? Calling people delusional isn't meant as an insult, of course, and it's ridiculous that such statements would offend anyone.



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Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:01 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by LiLi:
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
The Browncoat community is like the boy who cried wolf for 8 straight years.


Please point out where in this thread anyone said, "OMG Firefly is coming back u guise OMG!"

Right. No one did.



For you to say that I came in here looking for a fight is petty, and a neat attempt to paint me as the bad guy. I was looking for no such thing; I'm just sick of your insulting and negative behavior. I was looking for a few moments of giddiness and joy in my day, and instead I encounter this negativity again. As I said, you do this all the time. Yet you're surprised that anyone would call you on it? And pointing out the fact makes me the bad guy? Oh right, because I'm just "misunderstanding" you, right? Calling people delusional isn't meant as an insult, of course, and it's ridiculous that such statements would offend anyone. Saying more-or-less outright that Joss Whedon is lying, when he has no reason to, is clearly just an indication of how much you like Firefly and hold its writers and creators in respect.

Obviously I need to restate: Taking joy in anyone still talking about a show we love is what fans do. No one here has any illusions that it means more than it means, so your implications of delusion are, again, insulting. Posturing as though you act for the greater good, saying that the thread title is "cruel" and you alone have the wherewithal to stand against the "false hope," is totally laughable. The thread title is accurate in its wording. It references a quote from Joss Whedon that he would like to continue the story, were it possible. There is no implication that any offers have been made, or that Whedon is abandoning any projects, or anything else you seem to be implying with all your "delusional crying wolf" nonsense. You act out of distain rather than concern, behavior I find incomprehensible on a fan board.
If you hate threads like this sooo much, they should be fairly easy to avoid. Just don't click on anything that has "Firefly" in the subject line. You'll be set.



I only posted "delusional" in response to your accusation of me being "negative" (see: looking for a fight). I don't think putting his comments in perspective is negative.

So, you want a thread like this to make you giddy but you don't think it this thread is implying anything. Seems contradictory to me.

You also seem to think you know what everyone is thinking including me. That's probably not a healthy attitude to have. Since for starters you're wrong about me. Whether you choose to believe it or not. I'm not going to bother with any of the rest of your accusations.

Could you explain to me what you're looking for to be giddy about in this thread and what my comments did to change that?

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