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Saturday, May 1, 2004 3:50 PM

FIREFLYGAL


I think, Insight Spinner, we'll just have to wait and see what path Joss takes us down. Then he'll probably make a complete 180 after he's lulled us into a false sense of security.... but it's certainly fun speculating.

I still like Mal/Serenity best...

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 6:08 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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All of that would be going through Jayne's head as possible likely outcomes to any future romantic interraction with River. Jayne may be a tad slow, that don't mean he's suicidal.


Ah, but what better way to keep River from making his brain explode than to get her to like him. Besides, Jayne might like that element of danger. Keeps one from getting bored.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 6:10 PM

NEROLI


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Originally posted by Gunhand:
Hmmm, I think Jayne and River is pretty unlikely for the simple fact of the,"I can kill you with my brain" line.



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around playing art critic till I get pinched by
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eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

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But, but...don't you know that is psychotic teenage girl foreplay?

Ok, been keeping my mouth shut on this topic since I think anyone that's read most of my fic's knows I am a Jayne/River shipper...heck, don't even need to read them, just look at the descriptions and you get the idea...LOL

I don't see a River/Jayne pairing anytime soon, but I do think there will be one. There's just a vibe between them. She's always watching him. For example, in Safe, except for a few glances around at the mob, she's looking up at Jayne and smiling.

And I think once they figure out that it is Blue Sun logo's that set her off, thereby clearing her of the "trying to kill Jayne with a butchers knife" stigma, he'll start to harbor those dirty little thoughts of her nekkid again. You know he had them after seeing her come out of that crate...LOL

But I can also see a possibilty for a Jayne/Kaylee hook-up. I really do think he had/has a bit of a crush on her.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 6:20 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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But I can also see a possibilty for a Jayne/Kaylee hook-up. I really do think he had/has a bit of a crush on her.


I think he does care about her, I just see it as more of a brother/sister thing.

Love your Jayne/River fanfic, by the way. Can't read the Kaylee/Jayne one because of the aforementioned brother/sister vibe. But the other ones are damn shiney.Suppose I should stop being so gorram lazy and actually leave a review. Think I'll go do that now.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 6:26 PM

NEROLI


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I think he does care about her, I just see it as more of a brother/sister thing.

Love your Jayne/River fanfic, by the way. Can't read the Kaylee/Jayne one because of the aforementioned brother/sister vibe. But the other ones are damn shiney.Suppose I should stop being so gorram lazy and actually leave a review. Think I'll go do that now.



Fear not "The Tattoo", it really isn't a "romance". It's a Jayne takes Kaylee to get a tattoo piece. You can certainly read it as Jayne having a crush on Kaylee but I left things very vague...and Kaylee definatly crushes on Simon in it...LOL

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 6:50 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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I don't see a River/Jayne pairing anytime soon, but I do think there will be one. There's just a vibe between them. She's always watching him. For example, in Safe, except for a few glances around at the mob, she's looking up at Jayne and smiling.


I also think the Jayne/River pairing won't happen right away, but I just always thought it would happen sometime in the future.

Never noticed her staring up at him in Safe, but I did notice her stealing his bread off of his plate at the end of that episode. Noticed some other stuff too. During the first part of HoG, everytime Jayne says something she is watching him and smiling. She's also smiling at him in The Message when he's wearing that hat his mother sent him and reading her letter aloud.

They could be condescending smiles where she is thinking, "Aw, look at the little idiot. Isn't he cute?" Or, she could just be thinking, "He's cute." I prefer to think it's the latter.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 6:59 PM

NEROLI


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Originally posted by toomanymemories:


I also think the Jayne/River pairing won't happen right away, but I just always thought it would happen sometime in the future.

Never noticed her staring up at him in Safe, but I did notice her stealing his bread off of his plate at the end of that episode. Noticed some other stuff too. During the first part of HoG, everytime Jayne says something she is watching him and smiling. She's also smiling at him in The Message when he's wearing that hat his mother sent him and reading her letter aloud.

They could be condescending smiles where she is thinking, "Aw, look at the little idiot. Isn't he cute?" Or, she could just be thinking, "He's cute." I prefer to think it's the latter.



Oh, she is so thinking "he's cute"...LOL

Also, in OoG when Mal is telling them they are (more or less) going off in the shuttles to die a slower death then they would by staying, it is not big brother she is sitting next to. It's Jayne.

Ok, I think I have way to much time on my hands...LOL

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 7:18 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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Also, in OoG when Mal is telling them they are (more or less) going off in the shuttles to die a slower death then they would by staying, it is not big brother she is sitting next to. It's Jayne.


I noticed that too, hehe. Can't believe I forgot to mention that.

Let's see, other Jayne/River moments. In Ariel, when Simon goes over to save that man's life, Jayne has his arms around River. Now I know he does it at first to try and keep her from doing something that will draw attention to them, but then he keeps his hand on her shoulder the entire time Simon is gone. He only moves it when Simon wheels her away.

On a side note, I love the look River gives Jayne after Simon saved the guys life. It's like she's saying, "Yep, that's my brother. He's a Big Damn Hero, you know." She just looks so proud of him.

And yes, I know I have entirely too much time on my hands.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 7:32 PM

NEROLI


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Originally posted by toomanymemories:


I noticed that too, hehe. Can't believe I forgot to mention that.

Let's see, other Jayne/River moments. In Ariel, when Simon goes over to save that man's life, Jayne has his arms around River. Now I know he does it at first to try and keep her from doing something that will draw attention to them, but then he keeps his hand on her shoulder the entire time Simon is gone. He only moves it when Simon wheels her away.

On a side note, I love the look River gives Jayne after Simon saved the guys life. It's like she's saying, "Yep, that's my brother. He's a Big Damn Hero, you know." She just looks so proud of him.

And yes, I know I have entirely too much time on my hands.



Ah yes...the hand thing. Very cute moment, I think...

And I am glad I am not alone in the "too much time on my hands" thing...LOL

Ah, almost forgot to comment on the look she gives Jayne after Simon plays BDH, I think the only time she looks prouder of her big bro is in OoG when he starts telling his Hospital story, the truly ironic part being she's the only one enjoying the story...LOL

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 8:04 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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And I am glad I am not alone in the "too much time on my hands" thing...LOL


What else is there to do until the BDM arrives? My free time goes toward re-watching all of my dvds, such a trial really, and trying to prove that I'm right about my whole Jayne/River theory. 'Cause it's always nice to be right about something.

Your fanfics have corrupted me, by the way. Before I read them I thought that something might happen between Jayne/River, but I wasn't entirely sure. Now since reading your stories, I am absolutely convinced that they will end up together sooner or later. So if they never get together, I'm going to be blaming you for my crushing disappointment.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 8:12 PM

NEROLI


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Originally posted by toomanymemories:


What else is there to do until the BDM arrives? My free time goes toward re-watching all of my dvds, such a trial really, and trying to prove that I'm right about my whole Jayne/River theory. 'Cause it's always nice to be right about something.

Your fanfics have corrupted me, by the way. Before I read them I thought that something might happen between Jayne/River, but I wasn't entirely sure. Now since reading your stories, I am absolutely convinced that they will end up together sooner or later. So if they never get together, I'm going to be blaming you for my crushing disappointment.



Oh no!! Joss, you have to get River and Jayne together now, or I'm going to be in biiiig trouble...LOL

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 8:26 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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Oh no!! Joss, you have to get River and Jayne together now, or I'm going to be in biiiig trouble...LOL


Oh yes, beware the rabid fangirl. For though she may seem sweet, when provoked she will unleash the hell that is a "bad review". bwahaha Mine is an evil laugh.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 8:26 PM

JUMPY


Alrighty.

Well I'm a follower of the whole Simon/ Kaylee thing so I'm naturally inclined to say that they're the best pair.

However this is the way I see it: Simon and Kaylee will end up together, Mal and Anara will end up together but it will be a big complicated thing throughout the series (heres to praying there's more firefly episodes to come!).

As for the Jayne and River thing, my idea is that they'll come to an understanding and a friendship and look out for eachother but no more than that. I spose I'll have to check out the commentary again for that crush thing.

Wash and Zoe are a cool pair because they're sort of different people.

As for Book I don't think he'll be getting some action anytime soon, he's a Shepherd after all

Jumpy: jumps excitedly for firefly!

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 8:37 PM

NEROLI


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Originally posted by Jumpy:


As for the Jayne and River thing, my idea is that they'll come to an understanding and a friendship and look out for eachother but no more than that. I spose I'll have to check out the commentary again for that crush thing.


Jumpy: jumps excitedly for firefly!



Jumpy, you won't find anything on this in the commentary, least, I never have...and believe me, I listened for it.

This is all based on very subtle looks and interactions between River and Jayne. In other words, it's all in our heads.


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Saturday, May 1, 2004 8:56 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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This is all based on very subtle looks and interactions between River and Jayne. In other words, it's all in our heads.


Thought of another "subtle" Jayne/River moment. In OiS when all of the crew, minus River, are gathered in the mess to talk about her and they're saying she's a reader. Jayne really dislikes the idea, more so than the rest of them. And even after everyone else has left the table, he's still sitting there thinking about it. Don't you see?! It's proof that he's already started having those "dirty nekkid thoughts" about her again, and he doesn't want her to know about it.

What do you mean "it's all in our heads"? Are you saying that nobody else is noticing these blatantly obvious moments? I guess subtlety is just wasted on some people. lol

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 9:04 PM

NEROLI


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Originally posted by toomanymemories:


Thought of another "subtle" Jayne/River moment. In OiS when all of the crew, minus River, are gathered in the mess to talk about her and they're saying she's a reader. Jayne really dislikes the idea, more so than the rest of them. And even after everyone else has left the table, he's still sitting there thinking about it. Don't you see?! It's proof that he's already started having those "dirty nekkid thoughts" about her again, and he doesn't want her to know about it.

What do you mean "it's all in our heads"? Are you saying that nobody else is noticing these blatantly obvious moments? I guess subtlety is just wasted on some people. lol



AND, when everyone else gets up to leave, Jayne remains sitting.

And when I say it is all in our heads, well, really it kinda is. I honestly believe there is chemistry there, that there are lots and lots of subtle hints to the effect. But it is not ever addressed directly.

I mean, Mal and Inara have bared their souls in comparesion. Heck, even Simon has stated his intentions toward Kaylee more clearly...LOL

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 9:21 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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And when I say it is all in our heads, well, really it kinda is. I honestly believe there is chemistry there, that there are lots and lots of subtle hints to the effect. But it is not ever addressed directly.

I mean, Mal and Inara have bared their souls in comparesion. Heck, even Simon has stated his intentions toward Kaylee more clearly...LOL



See, I have an explanation for that. They didn't want to have every person on the ship in a relationship. If all of the couples had paired up right away, it would have seemed too soap operaish. So they gave us these subtle Jayne/River hints to lead us along until the big payoff.

Deluded? I don't know the meaning of the word.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 9:53 PM

JUMPY


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Originally posted by toomanymemories:
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And when I say it is all in our heads, well, really it kinda is. I honestly believe there is chemistry there, that there are lots and lots of subtle hints to the effect. But it is not ever addressed directly.

I mean, Mal and Inara have bared their souls in comparesion. Heck, even Simon has stated his intentions toward Kaylee more clearly...LOL



See, I have an explanation for that. They didn't want to have every person on the ship in a relationship. If all of the couples had paired up right away, it would have seemed too soap operaish. So they gave us these subtle Jayne/River hints to lead us along until the big payoff.

Deluded? I don't know the meaning of the word.




Okay there are a couple of hints but I don't really think they're romantic hints. Like Neroli says you've got Mal and Inara doing there thing and Simon and Kaylee (more or less hehe) doing there's so maybe there won't be enough room for another "inter-crew" romance (which is what you were saying).

Anyway it would be interesting to see!

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 9:59 PM

NEROLI


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Originally posted by toomanymemories:


See, I have an explanation for that. They didn't want to have every person on the ship in a relationship. If all of the couples had paired up right away, it would have seemed too soap operaish. So they gave us these subtle Jayne/River hints to lead us along until the big payoff.

Deluded? I don't know the meaning of the word.



Nope, not deluded at all, IMHO...I think it would have been too much to have it all obvious right away as well. Gotta leave some things for later in the series-that-will-be-again!!!

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:02 PM

NEROLI


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Originally posted by Jumpy:


Okay there are a couple of hints but I don't really think they're romantic hints. Like Neroli says you've got Mal and Inara doing there thing and Simon and Kaylee (more or less hehe) doing there's so maybe there won't be enough room for another "inter-crew" romance (which is what you were saying).

Anyway it would be interesting to see!

Jumpy: jumps excitedly for firefly!



There is always room for more "inter-crew" romances!!

See, I really, truly do believe River and Jayne are soul-mates...there, I said it...it's just that I have to acknowledge that there is not much in the way of solid, blatent facts to base my opinion on.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:08 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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Gotta leave some things for later in the series-that-will-be-again!!!


Yep, we'll get more hints in the BDM. Then once the series returns, which it will, we'll eventually get the whole relationship. Oh yes, it will happen.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:16 PM

NEROLI


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Gotta leave some things for later in the series-that-will-be-again!!!


Yep, we'll get more hints in the BDM. Then once the series returns, which it will, we'll eventually get the whole relationship. Oh yes, it will happen.



Oh yes, it will happen, indeed!!

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:16 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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See, I really, truly do believe River and Jayne are soul-mates...there, I said it...it's just that I have to acknowledge that there is not much in the way of solid, blatent facts to base my opinion on.


Who needs solid, blatent facts when there are all of those "subtle hints" that we have previously listed? Combined, they make up irrefutable proof that Jayne and River are indeed soul-mates. We just have to wait for the series to catch up with us.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:17 PM

NEROLI


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Originally posted by toomanymemories:
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See, I really, truly do believe River and Jayne are soul-mates...there, I said it...it's just that I have to acknowledge that there is not much in the way of solid, blatent facts to base my opinion on.


Who needs solid, blatent facts when there are all of those "subtle hints" that we have previously listed? Combined, they make up irrefutable proof that Jayne and River are indeed soul-mates. We just have to wait for the series to catch up with us.



Toomanymemories, you're my kinda shipper!

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:41 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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Toomanymemories, you're my kinda shipper!


Thank you. I always knew my obsessive nature and stubborn refusal to believe I am wrong would pay off.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:45 PM

JUMPY


haha well I hope it works out that way for you guys!But it'll be great if we find out very soon right?! :)

Me I'm personally lookin forward to Simon and Kaylee!

Jumpy: jumps excitedly for firefly!

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:59 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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Me I'm personally lookin forward to Simon and Kaylee!


Simon and Kaylee are sweet. It will be a relief to see them finally kiss, they've been dancing around it for so long. But no other couple on that ship interests me as much as the idea of a Jayne/River pairing does. They're already my favorite and technically they aren't even a couple yet, except in my own mind of course.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 11:06 PM

JUMPY


I wonder what will happen in the movie, there's no doubt if the show does continue afterwards Joss Whedon can't complete ALL unresolved romances (and issues) in the movie can he?

What would he have to go on if that happened?

He's probably gotta keep some stuff for the sake of the show. (screw if's, in my head it's coming back or else!)





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Sunday, May 2, 2004 5:01 PM

TOOMANYMEMORIES


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I wonder what will happen in the movie, there's no doubt if the show does continue afterwards Joss Whedon can't complete ALL unresolved romances (and issues) in the movie can he?


I doubt if any of the relationships are going to be resolved in the movie. The most I expect to get is a kiss, and that's probably going to be from Kaylee and Simon. Reckon they'll save the rest of it for when the series returns.

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Sunday, May 2, 2004 5:02 PM

JUMPY


haha whoo hoo! then im happy

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Sunday, May 2, 2004 5:20 PM

ZOID



Howdy, everyone:

Here's another odd couple that somehow fit: YoSafBridge in wedded bliss with Nikolai Niska. If ever two characters were soul mates, it's them.

Of course, I can also foresee how their marriage would dissolve. On their first year anniversary (given a one-year statute of limitations on estate probations), over a romantic candlelit dinner, they surreptitiously poison one another's champagne...


Respectfully,

zoid
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(Of River) "Little Sis? I could see big things for her all along. Her and her brother both. I always knew they'd be worth something, y'know?"

- Jayne Cobb, Game Warden and co-proprietor, "Cretaceous Park", Hera; from A Child Shall Lead Them: A History of the Second War of Independence Wilkins, Richard

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Sunday, May 2, 2004 6:30 PM

JUMPY


haha nice

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Sunday, May 2, 2004 6:54 PM

NEROLI


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Originally posted by zoid:

Howdy, everyone:

Here's another odd couple that somehow fit: YoSafBridge in wedded bliss with Nikolai Niska. If ever two characters were soul mates, it's them.

Of course, I can also foresee how their marriage would dissolve. On their first year anniversary (given a one-year statute of limitations on estate probations), over a romantic candlelit dinner, they surreptitiously poison one another's champagne...


Respectfully,

zoid
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(Of River) "Little Sis? I could see big things for her all along. Her and her brother both. I always knew they'd be worth something, y'know?"

- Jayne Cobb, Game Warden and co-proprietor, "Cretaceous Park", Hera; from A Child Shall Lead Them: A History of the Second War of Independence Wilkins, Richard



One can always hope...LOL

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Sunday, May 2, 2004 6:57 PM

GUNHAND


Niska and YoSafBridge????

Wow.

I don't know whether to be jealous of the old SOB or send him a note of condolence.

I think that post broke my brain.



~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html

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Monday, May 3, 2004 6:55 AM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1


Don't Forget Niska has a wife...but then again, maybe he killed her too

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"Here's to Jayne, the box dropping man-ape-gone-wrong-thing"
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Monday, May 3, 2004 7:43 PM

NEROLI


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Originally posted by howdyrockerbaby1:
Don't Forget Niska has a wife...but then again, maybe he killed her too

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
"Here's to Jayne, the box dropping man-ape-gone-wrong-thing"
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Or maybe Saffron killed her?

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