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An article about Firefly's cancellation

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UPDATED: Friday, April 16, 2004 05:54
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Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:45 AM

CALHOUN


There was an article, I think written by a reporter from the Texas mercury about the reasons Firefly was cancelled. I found it to be well written and poignant.

My brother in-law house-sat for me while I was on holidays in Thailand (wheew! its hot over there). I convinced him he oughta watch Firefly for the first time seeing as though he would be there with my wide screen TV an all... well, he was instantly hooked. When I returned he told me of the numerous Firefly marathons he'd had. We spoke for ages about the series and why it was cancelled.I alluded to the aforementioned (is that a word?) article. Now my brother in-law wants to read this article and I cant remember where I read it at.

Does anyone remember the article I speak of? More to the point, can anyone point me to where I may find it again?

Thank you for your time.




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Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:07 AM

BADGERSHAT


Hello--

Is this the one you mean? I read the Texas Mercury article, and it's mentioning of Firefly is horrendously scathing... but try this one.

http://www.teevee.org/archive/2002/12/13/index.html



--The Hat

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"I like smackin 'em"--Jayne

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Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:49 AM

DELIA


Whether that was the article Calhoun was looking for or not, I certainly enjoyed it, and hadn't seen it before. Thanks for the link.

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Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:53 AM

HAWKMOTH


This should be the one you want:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/feature.asp?f=39


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Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:59 AM

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL


I noticed at the bottom of the page (under the review) there is a link for "Firefly Season One". Ahh, if only I could make myself believe, even for a moment, that this isn't a mistake but some sort of admission of a Season Two on the way...

"I like smackin' 'em!" - Jayne Cobb

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Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:15 AM

BADGERSHAT


I had the same fantasy... clicking onto Amazon.com, pre-ordering Firefly Season four DVD set... sigh...

... I'm still sore at you for stealing my signature!



--The Hat

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Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:28 AM

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL


That was one of the lines I laughed hardest at when watching the dvd set for the first time, and I had completely missed it on the first broadcast.

We could duel it out for use of the line? Do you prefer swords or guns? :-)

"I like smackin' 'em!" - Jayne Cobb

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Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:24 PM

CALHOUN


Thank you to the people who tried to help out here, but thanks especially to HawkMoth for finding the exact article I was after.

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Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:56 PM

ZOID


Browncoats:

Having read the Texas Mercury article, I have to say I agreed with most of the analysis of Firefly, though with very little of the racial analysis. As a southerner, and a native Texan to boot, I too have argued that Mal is a man of honor, and that he has a code of chivalry.

Quote:

...it underlies every single thing that Reynolds does. Honor is his roadmap in life, his way of finding his way through the wilderness. It says to him at every turn: This thing I can do and live with myself; this thing I can't. It is in the end what makes him a "good" man, in the conventional sense, and an American, and, ultimately, a Southerner.


Others have disagreed. Their points of view have value to me, but I am ruled by my own sensibilities. As the author of the article's point of view and my own coincide, while others do not, perhaps the ideals of honor and chivalry are somehow uniquely Texican. I certainly hope not...

But I disagree with his other analyses in substantial ways. Certainly, it's true that the Civil War was primarily about states' rights, and that the abolition of slavery was a rider, an afterthought on the part of Union politicians. But that does not mean that abolition was not a worthy goal. How that cause was forwarded is not important, that it was forwarded is the only thing matters. That's the kind of justice honor demands: that no human being be held in bondage by another. From that standpoint, the Mercury reviewer's a shithead (pardon my French, but some ideas deserve to be called what they are).

While I don't believe in feeling guilty for what my forebears wrought, I also don't believe in defending or denying what they did.



Respectfully,

zoid
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Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:32 PM

FIREFLYWILDCARD1


Quote:

Originally posted by spikeandjezebel:
"I like smackin' 'em!" - Jayne Cobb



Which episode is this line from? I don't remember it at all.

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Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:54 PM

FIREFLYTHEMOVIE


It's from Safe. Jayne's herding cattle off Serenity by whipping them, Mal says they walk just as easy if you lead them, and Jayne responds as only he can...

God, I love this show.

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Friday, April 16, 2004 5:54 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
Browncoats:

Having read the Texas Mercury article, I have to say I agreed with most of the analysis of Firefly, though with very little of the racial analysis. As a southerner, and a native Texan to boot, I too have argued that Mal is a man of honor, and that he has a code of chivalry.

Quote:

...it underlies every single thing that Reynolds does. Honor is his roadmap in life, his way of finding his way through the wilderness. It says to him at every turn: This thing I can do and live with myself; this thing I can't. It is in the end what makes him a "good" man, in the conventional sense, and an American, and, ultimately, a Southerner.


Others have disagreed. Their points of view have value to me, but I am ruled by my own sensibilities. As the author of the article's point of view and my own coincide, while others do not, perhaps the ideals of honor and chivalry are somehow uniquely Texican. I certainly hope not...



I agree Zoid. Living in Virginia and being raised by my mother to be a Southern gentleman I can easily identify w/ Mal and the author of the article on this point.

Quote:

But I disagree with his other analyses in substantial ways. Certainly, it's true that the Civil War was primarily about states' rights, and that the abolition of slavery was a rider, an afterthought on the part of Union politicians. But that does not mean that abolition was not a worthy goal. How that cause was forwarded is not important, that it was forwarded is the only thing matters. That's the kind of justice honor demands: that no human being be held in bondage by another. From that standpoint, the Mercury reviewer's a shithead (pardon my French, but some ideas deserve to be called what they are).

While I don't believe in feeling guilty for what my forebears wrought, I also don't believe in defending or denying what they did.



Agreed.

I did not agree w/ the other points of the articles author, but he is welcome to his own opinions.

I agree that slavery was a abomination in history, and the one point that damns the South and her cause, but like Robert E. Lee, "Stonewall" Jackson, and Jefferson Davis, I believe that slavery was an institution that could not and should not endure. It is for the better for all that it was ended, it is a shame it had to come at the sacrifice of Southern Independence.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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