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Star Wars times Battlestar Galactica divided by Joss equals Firefly...?

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Friday, January 14, 2011 18:19
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Friday, January 7, 2011 3:20 PM

CHRISISALL


Mal = Han/Starbuck
Inara = Leia/Cassiopeia
Simon = Luke/Apollo
River = Yoda/Ship of Lights peeps
Jayne = Lando/Baltar
Kaylee = R2/Muffet
Book = Obiwan/Adama
Zoe = Chewie/Sheba
Wash = Biggs/Zack

Yo, someone check my math on this....




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Friday, January 7, 2011 5:35 PM

TOADSMOOTHY


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Mal = Han/Starbuck
Inara = Leia/Cassiopeia
Simon = Luke/Apollo
River = Yoda/Ship of Lights peeps
Jayne = Lando/Baltar
Kaylee = R2/Muffet
Book = Obiwan/Adama
Zoe = Chewie/Sheba
Wash = Biggs/Zack



Simon = Luke??? Really? Simon is a hero???

I would say: Simon = Jar Jar Binks! hahaha

And River = Yoda / Zoe = Chewie??? Are you sure you wanna stick with these analogies?

I'm thinkin' Zoe and River would kick your ass tag team style for that! hahaha

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Friday, January 7, 2011 7:33 PM

THEHAPPYTRADER


Dude, you must have forgotten what Luke was like when we first met him. Simon wasn't nearly as much of a whiner Simon just hasn't had the time to grow into the hero Luke did yet. Give him a few years, cut his hand off, and you might see something that would surprise you. I'd say it took at least 3 or 4 years after Return of the Jedi in the star wars books before Luke was as strong as Han was IMO.

I can confirm your star wars math, but I still haven't watched much bsg yet.

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Saturday, January 8, 2011 12:54 AM

LWAVES


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Mal = Han/Starbuck
Inara = Leia/Cassiopeia
Simon = Luke/Apollo
River = Yoda/Ship of Lights peeps
Jayne = Lando/Baltar
Kaylee = R2/Muffet
Book = Obiwan/Adama
Zoe = Chewie/Sheba
Wash = Biggs/Zack

Yo, someone check my math on this....

The laughing Chrisisall



Ok I can see most of these comparisons and why you picked them. Wash's counterparts are especially appropriate given their ultimate fates. Neither Starbuck or Apollo fit well as Mal or Simon but it doesn't really work if you swap them either. Simon as Luke is a stretch as well but (as sais above) we never got to see what Simon may become later.
Mal might fit better as Apollo if you put Inara as Jane Seymours character. Especially if what I read in another thread here is true about Inara's situation.

My biggest question mark is with Kaylee. R2 is an absolutely perfect fit IMO and the best one in the list.
But Muffet? I get that Muffet is intended to be cute and lovable, like Kaylee, but I thought that most BSG fans hated the dog. At least from what I've read/heard. Am I wrong in this?



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Saturday, January 8, 2011 6:13 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Mal = Han/Starbuck
Inara = Leia/Cassiopeia
Simon = Luke/Apollo
River = Yoda/Ship of Lights peeps
Jayne = Lando/Baltar
Kaylee = R2/Muffet
Book = Obiwan/Adama
Zoe = Chewie/Sheba
Wash = Biggs/Zack

Yo, someone check my math on this....




The laughing Chrisisall




After a thoughtful analysis of your piece I do believe that it's one of the most brilliant, exciting, and imaginative works I've ever seen here. They're all wonderfully woven together in their own delicious way, and my favorite is Inara as the lowly Socialator/noble med-tech/brave freedom fighting warrior.








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Saturday, January 8, 2011 6:16 AM

CYBERSNARK


There really isn't an engineer character in original BSG, is there? It was all pilots, bridge bunnies, and flag staff. Yeah, R2 fits for Kaylee, both for the cuteness, the engineering, and the snark.

Simon is more like a cross between Luke (the young idealist out of his element) and 3P0 (the proper gentleman). Apollo is a good fit, what with his combination of youthful idealism and what might as well have been an upper crust heritage (original Adama was more a regal statesman than a military leader).

I wouldn't really compare Jayne to Lando. Despite Lando's mercenary tendencies, he was never much of a fighter; Lando survived on hit wits, charm, and gambler's luck (less "luck" than being able to read people and situations and "bet" accordingly) --same for Baltar, really. There's no real analogue for either character. Lando would probably be more like Badger (if Badger wasn't a villain) --or possibly a male counterpart to Inara.

There's nothing like Jayne in Star Wars. Except possibly Chewbacca's more combative/"thinking with his stomach" side, though Chewie's obsessive loyalty and insight make him more a match for Zoe.

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Saturday, January 8, 2011 6:26 AM

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Most I have issue w/ is Jayne = Lando / Baltar

While there is the common thread of " do what ya gotta do for No 1", Jayne does have sense of decency - when he's caught. Lando and Jayne at least try to make amends, for the right reasons. Not seein' it with Baltar. Maybe I'm forgetting the old school version ?

Kayle = R2/Muffet

LOL !!


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Saturday, January 8, 2011 8:38 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by lwaves:
I thought that most BSG fans hated the dog. At least from what I've read/heard. Am I wrong in this?

I hear that many did/do, but c'mon! How can you hate this:



Plus, outtakes with the chimp in the suit are hi-larious.




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Saturday, January 8, 2011 8:41 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
After a thoughtful analysis of your piece I do believe that it's one of the most brilliant, exciting, and imaginative works I've ever seen here.

Wow, thanks!

I was really just trying to liven up this place with a bit of fluff...



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Saturday, January 8, 2011 3:07 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:
bridge bunnies

You sexist pig, you!



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Saturday, January 8, 2011 5:56 PM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:
bridge bunnies

You sexist pig, you!




It is a technical term: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BridgeBunnies

Male bridge bunnies are by no means unheard of. Fair's fair, after all.

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Sunday, January 9, 2011 8:14 AM

JONGSSTRAW

We carry in our hearts the true country, and that cannot be stolen.


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
After a thoughtful analysis of your piece I do believe that it's one of the most brilliant, exciting, and imaginative works I've ever seen here.

Wow, thanks!

I was really just trying to liven up this place with a bit of fluff...



The laughing Chrisisall



You post interesting thread topics anyhow, but I thought this time you took the process and subject to a higher level. If that's just "fluff" for you, then I'm an amoeba. Thanks








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Sunday, January 9, 2011 10:38 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

I thought this time you took the process and subject to a higher level.

It started out high-concept, but as I explored the analogous character qualities, it started to come apart just a bit, but the original idea was sound, I believe.


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Sunday, January 9, 2011 3:55 PM

THEHAPPYTRADER


Now transpose your math into Star Trek. I dare you!

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Sunday, January 9, 2011 4:31 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
Now transpose your math into Star Trek. I dare you!

Quantum singularities diverge into subsets of logistic periodic anomalies.
Joss was definitely influenced.


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Sunday, January 9, 2011 7:19 PM

THEHAPPYTRADER


Gonna have to switch some genders for the equation though, unless perhaps we chose another crew in place of the original series. TNG perhaps or my favorite, DS9?

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:22 AM

CHRISISALL


Just watching deleted scenes from the old BSG, and guess what? Originally, before ABC wanted an ongoing series, Serena had a sickness that was going to kill her soon... sound familiar?
Can this be just a coincidence??

Holy Frack.


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Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:53 PM

CHRISISALL


O.M.G.
Just watching TOS BSG ep "The Magnificent Warriors," and the name of the agro town they go to to get new seeds is

*wait for it*

SERENITY!!!!

I kid you not.
Joss has a toy Viper somewhere in his toy chest I conjure!


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Friday, January 14, 2011 9:18 AM

CHRISISALL


So, like, none of this seems to *holy crap* anyone, eh?




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Friday, January 14, 2011 10:11 AM

JONGSSTRAW

We carry in our hearts the true country, and that cannot be stolen.


You posted that a few years ago. I clearly remember that because of my boundless knowledge of the orignal Galactica. Yes Serenity, with Twilight Zone veteran Barry Nelson as Bogan, Serenity's most distinguished citizen who cons Starbuck into becoming Sheriff when he antes up the gold law badge in the card game. Was a pretty good episode with Brett Somers (Jack Klugman's wife) providing some great comic relief as she tried unsuccessfully to romance Adama.







Starbuck's successor Sheriff Nogow




Did you know that Serenity's Sheriff who dies in the first attack was Rance Howard, Ron's dad?





***** AND *****

This guy....Eric Server as Bogan's pal Dipper



A year later was the voice of:









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Friday, January 14, 2011 6:03 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
So, like, none of this seems to *holy crap* anyone, eh?




The laughing Chrisisall




You can pick most ensembles down into character archetypes, so no, not much of a shocker. Same way you can apply all the standard western archetypes to our BDHs.

For the hell of it, factor in the crew of the Betty from Alien: Resurrection or the Scoobies.

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Friday, January 14, 2011 6:19 PM

CHRISISALL


Most enlightening, Jong!

@ Story- yeah, it's reasonable. Still...
I think Joss had a fixation with Galactica. It's just all too coincidental, the frackin' expletives, the name Serenity, the 'socialator' (companion), the fact that Joss has stated that the new BSG was the best show on TV, and so on.






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